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Question Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E) ( AVForums LCD Flat Panel Televisions )
Updated: 2008-05-11 03:18:49 (5382)
Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Thought I'd start a thread on the new Sharp LC-52XD1E.

1920x1080p. 52" LCD - £2,599.00.

Freeview & 2 hdmi (I think).

Available September in 37", 42", 46" and 52". All 1080p.

There is a 65" but that will set you back £10,699.

Anyone got anymore info?

Does it have picture in picture?

A lot cheaper than the new Sony x-series 52" which is £5000 +

Answers: Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E) ( AVForums LCD Flat Panel Televisions )
Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

BTW, here are my current picture settings:

Backlight -2
Contrast 27
Brightness 5
Colour 6
Tint 5
Sharpness 5
Colour temp: mid-high
Black On
3w-y/c: standard
dnr off
truD on

NiceWeather

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by badbob
I've noticed after leaving the set unplugged overnight the sharpness is increased, even though it's still -10 I can tell straight away as using a HTPC so text has lots of ringing. So I ha 2798 ve to go into sharpness and set it forward to -9 and then back to -10.
Ahhhhh so that's what it is, mine does that as well. That's not as annoying as it not displaying a picture on that input until I unplug and replug the HDMI cable back in though, does yours do that?

Dave

CodeThief

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by windfall
FAO Dixons Purchasers
How many people have purchased from Dixons and how many people have had to return their sets because of the issues with buzzing?

If I was to buy from Dixons and there was an issue like noise etc would they take it back without too much grief?

Thanks

Tone
I purchased from Dixons.co.uk and have only noticed a VERY quiet buzzing with my head around the back of the screen when it's turned off, nothing other than that

Dave

CodeThief

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

I've had enough!!!

I have tired FOUR 42XD1E's now and every one has had it's problems! SHARPS quality control is disgraceful!

The first one had four (very visible) lit pixels and the buzz.
The second had one (not very visible) lit pixel and the buzz.
The third has four (very visible) lit pixels which REALLY show up however NO buzz.
The fourth has one (not very visible) lit pixel and the buzz!

Now either I'm REALLY un 3890 lucky or SHARP's quality control stinks! I like this TV a lot but when spending £1k I expect it to be near perfect! These sets are far from it!.... And all Sharp ever say is "It's within specification".

I'm thinking about trying a different set now!

Ollie20964

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeThief
Ahhhhh so that's what it is, mine does that as well. That's not as annoying as it not displaying a picture on that input until I unplug and replug the HDMI cable back in though, does yours do that?

Dave
I don't have that problem, although it is blank for a few seconds after switch on. Have you moved the mouse? Perhaps some signal from videocard , power managment/monitor shut off?

badbob

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blighty_Boy
I Have an X1300 !! I am supposed to be able to do 1080P/60 but I have never managed it, only 1080P/50 and that was with power strip
Hi, could you tell me how to configurate power strip to send 1080P/50? thanks

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Andy, have you got any pics of the TV in you're 'set-up', so that i can see what it looks like as a whole?

Thanks

Batch

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by andycorleone
Hi, could you tell me how to configurate power strip to send 1080P/50? thanks
I already posted it in #3177 but here you go again, in return could you please post your 60P settings !! you are getting much more of a picture than I am !!

PowerStrip timing parameters:
1920x1080=1920,486,44,192,1080,0,10,42,149537,534

Generic timing details for 1920x1080:
HFP=486 HSW=44 HBP=192 kHz=57 VFP=0 VSW=10 VBP=42 Hz=50

VESA detailed timing:
PClk=149.54 H.Active=1920 H.Blank=722 H.Offset=470 HSW=44 V.Active=1080 V.Blank=52 V.Offset=0 VSW=10

Linux modeline parameters:
"1920x1080" 149.537 1920 2406 2450 2642 1080 1080 1090 1132 -hsync -vsync

please note it is important that you set catalyst to 50P first even if it does not work, before applying this in p'strip or it just wont work !!!

Blighty_Boy

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Andycorleone,

Your first photo looks as if the gfx card is sending a lower res image but on a 1080p signal; imagine for instance viewing an 800x600 desktop on a 1024x768 monitor that didn't scale it up.

Alternatively, the XD1E has more than 1920x1080 pixels, but I think that's really unlikely!

I've knocked together a quick 1080p test image; if you make this your windows wallpaper (but turn off stretch) then you can confirm whether or not you are getting 1:1 , 1080p etc.

You can get it here: http://aitoribarra.com/2006/12/01/1080p-test-image.aspx

cheers,

Aitor

aitor_ibarra

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Batch
Andy, have you got any pics of the TV in you're 'set-up', so that i can see what it looks like as a whole?

Thanks
Hi, what you means as a 'set-up' a picture of all the tv in my living? or all the configurations ?

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

what the tv loooks liek in your living room, if you don't mind

Batch

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aitor_ibarra
Andycorleone,

Your first photo looks as if the gfx card is sending a lower res image but on a 1080p signal; imagine for instance viewing an 800x600 desktop on a 1024x768 monitor that didn't scale it up.

Alternatively, the XD1E has more than 1920x1080 pixels, but I think that's really unlikely!

I've knocked together a quick 1080p test image; if you make this your windows wallpaper (but turn off stretch) then you can confirm whether or not you are getting 1:1 , 1080p etc.

You can get it here: http://aitoribarra.com/2006/12/01/1080p-test-image.aspx

cheers,

Aitor


Thank you Now I can't iniciate windows beacuse I changed somethig in Cataliyst, I can't even press the F8 in hte start up because this set don't let me see anything before windows so I have to conect my CRT which is in other floor I will let you know if work tomorrrow Thanks so much

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

ah, so you can't get at the BIOS using one of these screens! What about the VGA connection? It's not often that you have to go into the BIOS these days, but it's sometimes necessarry, so that means you can't rely on one of these TVs as your sole monitor?!

aitor_ibarra

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Ok - it's arriving tomorrow - my 46! Can hardly wait

Could one of you guys please post your settings for the 46 - i don't have a calideration disc and would like to start out with something that looks reasonably good !

It's going to be a long night!

raghav

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by andycorleone
Thank you Now I can't iniciate windows beacuse I changed somethig in Cataliyst, I can't even press the F8 in hte start up because this set don't let me see anything before windows so I have to conect my CRT which is in other floor I will let you know if work tomorrrow Thanks so much
I hope that is not sarcasm andy, as we are trying to help you anyway you do not need your monitor as the VGA connection on the TV supports all the lower resolutions like 640X480 (used when your booting up) and in safe mode, (which I recon you need to use to get things back to normal !!)

Blighty_Boy

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blighty_Boy
I hope that is not sarcasm andy, as we are trying to help you anyway you do not need your monitor as the VGA connection on the TV supports all the lower resolutions like 640X480 (used when your booting up) and in safe mode, (which I recon you need to use to get things back to normal !!)
Hi, I can't see anything in the start up just windows OS if you can tell me how to see the bios screan or something please let meknow how? because in my set I'm only able to see windows

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

is the hdmi port ver 1.2 or 1.3

thanks guys

hddvdman

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

1.2

Batch

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by andycorleone
Hi, I can't see anything in the start up just windows OS if you can tell me how to see the bios screan or something please let meknow how? because in my set I'm only able to see windows
You do not need to go to the bios (you can really disable your computer if you don't know what your doing in there) what you do need is a 15 pin to 15 pin VGA cable (ther might be one attached to your CRT monitor, Connect from your computers VGA port to the VGA port on the TV (EXT 4) this should allow you to see what your doing as you boot. ie pressing F8 for safe mode

Blighty_Boy

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

OK, Finally the problems is solved, I changed the refresh rate to 50hz in ati catalys, I think did some ajustent in the catalyst (no sure about this beacuse I tryed before 50mz without luck, or maybe was a thing or switch of restart the machine ) thank everyone soon I will post pictures of my set

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by morph72
I had my TV delivered on 8th of Dec and reported a prob on the 12th.
Speak to your supplier or citizens advise.
The idea of "7 days" seems to crop up because of confusion with the provisions of the Distance Selling Regulations whereby if you make a purchase 'at distance' - eg by telephone or over the Internet, you have seven WORKING days after the date of delivery to notify the vendor IN WRITING that you wish to cancel the contract and return the goods. This would NOT normally be because they were faulty as you have no inherent right to USE the goods during that 7 day period - it's simply a sort of cooling off period for you to 'welch' on the deal on reflection. Whether you have to pay to make that return and whether the retailer has to refund original P&P charges is ENTIRELY down to the T&C's you agreed with the vendor - ie potentially you just get the cost of the goods back (within 28 3890 days from memory) AND have to pay to return them.

If they are FAULTY then as long as you have identified it within a 'reasonable' period of time then you have the right to reject the goods and claim a full refund.

See the DTI Fact Sheet about the Sale of Goods Act which considers what periods of time an item should last for and be fault free for
http://www.dti.gov.uk/consumers/fact...page24700.html

and their guide for Traders is rather interesting too
http://www.dti.gov.uk/files/file25486.pdf

mk-donald

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Can someone comment on whether my experience of the sound is right?

Broadly speaking it's quite good.

However, on a "bass heavy" action film, well, there is none.

And sometimes the TV sounds "out of puff" when an explosion or drum beat happens, like a "blown speaker" if you know what I mean?

And it's crap with music.

CLH

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by asrock316
iv had the sharp 42xd1e for 2 days now and i must say it is crap. the amount of picture blurring/smearing is shocking and gives me a sore head watching it. Im going to send it back and try one more set but if this is the same i think i will be going for the Pioneer PDP427XD plasma the only con with this is that you don't get a stand or wall mount with it
Have you checked all the settings....

i.e noise reduction etc.

I have one, I have been playing BF2142 on it from 3 feet away, (no not laugh)....

believe or not but my frag rate is up....

I cannot see anything bluring like the old tft panels did.

I could however see slight bluring on Sky when red was showing on a bugs wings when it took off....

it was very minor though.

apart from that i sat and watched it all night with no apparent bluring that i could see.

I would check your settings, what input are you watching tv on and what source causes it, i.e is it better or worse on dvd etc.

I had 3 46" and 1 52" before this 42, i can say that the contrast is very good compared with the 46" etc not quite as good but its almost on apar with my pioneer 507 as i ran them up side by side all night and tweaked the settings accordingly.

If its fine on the PC, moving the mouse on a black background is as quick as my pc's 22" widescreen lcd monitor.

can anyone tell me if this can be replicated with an advert or a dvd so that i can try it.

all i can say is that its a very good panel for what i want it for, and it works well with the pc as long as you use underscan and turn the sharpness down to -10...

elliots

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by elliots
Have you checked all the settings....

I cannot see anything bluring like the old tft panels did.

all i can say is that its a very good panel for what i want it for, and it works well with the pc as long as you use underscan and turn the sharpness down to -10...
Hi elliots, Would you be so kind as to post your settings in this thread?

Shin

shinken

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

No problems here, posted my settings on the previous page.

_Belial

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bradonis
I'm in a living nightmare trying to decide between the Samsung 46" and 52" - Just cant get over the size difference - 6" is quite substantial and I just cant get myself to overlook it. Though if theres bandng I might just kill myself!
I've gone down the same road as you, and in the end plumped for the Pioneer PDP-507DX (can be had for about ?1950 if you hunt around). Its not a 1080 set but if you sit more than about 6-8 feet from the TV its impossible to see the diffe 3890 rence and HD still looks awesome. I believe the picture quality is a little better than the Sharp on most channels - its certainly a lot less variable and a lot more forgiving of a poor quality feed (i.e. some of the crappier low bit-rate SKY channels), and the overall quality of the set is MUCH higher - it all feels so much more polished and complete with none of the rough edges of the Sharp.

dave1803

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

[quote=elliots;4124139]Have you checked all the settings....

i.e noise reduction etc.

Where are the settings that relate to noise reduction?

I received my 42" on Friday and so far im a little..well hmmmmm!

Im using the internal freeview tuner, via a roof ariel and while the picture can be great BBC etc for still shots, any type of movement and the pic blurs etc.
Football is particularly bad, due to fast movement etc, it seems to increase the 'noise' in moving shots. I have tweaked the user settings but these dont seem to rectify the quality of the pic just change colour, brightness etc.

Any thoughts?

I understand the limitations of LCD and appreciate SD broadcasts are never going to look perfect on it. However when watching downloaded HD films from xbox360 via component, there is still (not alot) some slight pic issues, around blurring or pixelation. Has anyone else seen this? Do you think this is the limitations of the connection (Component) as I get the same slight PQ issues using a Progressive Scan DVD player over the same connection. I have nothing to test via HDMI, but do you think this may improve the pic quality significantly?

Finally, what is required to connect pc via HDMI, I have a mid level graphics card from a few years ago? What do you think max resolution is likely to be? also what is a good cheapish 1080p capable card. and what else is required to connect to tv..software etc.

Sorry about the long post, but you know that feeling when you have spent a lot of cash, and you are not 100% satisfied!

Thanks in advance!

Therage79

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dave1803
I've gone down the same road as you, and in the end plumped for the Pioneer PDP-507DX (can be had for about ?1950 if you hunt around). Its not a 1080 set but if you sit more than about 6-8 feet from the TV its impossible to see the difference and HD still looks awesome. I believe the picture quality is a little better than the Sharp on most channels - its certainly a lot less variable and a lot more forgiving of a poor quality feed (i.e. some of the crappier low bit-rate SKY channels), and the overall quality of the set is MUCH higher - it all feels so much more polished and complete with none of the rough edges of the Sharp.
Cheers bud I appreciate your views and they are very true (ie no noticable diff in 1080i and 1080p from that distance) but I've set my mind on getting a 1080p set for a ps3 and full hd movies.

Thanx anyways

bradonis

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CLH
Can anyone comment on my "sound issue" above?
Sound was spot on for my 46XD1E. I was very impressed with the sound quality. Bass was very good. Assuming you've checked settings then it could be a fault.

CLH

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CLH
Can anyone comment on my "sound issue" above?
Sound was spot on for my 46XD1E. I was very impressed with the sound quality. Bass was very good. Assuming you've checked settings then it could be a fault.

pro510

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

[quote=Therage79;4124545]
Quote:
Originally Posted by elliots
Have you checked all the settings....

i.e noise reduction etc.

Where are the settings that relate to noise reduction?

I received my 42" on Friday and so far im a little..well hmmmmm!

Im using the internal freeview tuner, via a roof ariel and while the picture can be great BBC etc for still shots, any type of movement and the pic blurs etc.
Football is particularly bad, due to fast movement etc, it seems to increase the 'noise' in moving shots. I have tweaked the user settings but these dont seem to rectify the quality of the pic just change colour, brightness etc.

Any thoughts?

I understand the limitations of LCD and appreciate SD broadcasts are never going to look perfect on it. However when watching downloaded HD films from xbox360 via component, there is still (not alot) some slight pic issues, around blurring or pixelation. Has anyone else seen this? Do you think this is the limitations of the connection (Component) as I get the same slight PQ issues using a Progressive Scan DVD player over the same connection. I have nothing to test via HDMI, but do you think this may improve the pic quality significantly?

Finally, what is required to connect pc via HDMI, I have a mid level graphics card from a few years ago? What do you think max resolution is likely to be? also what is a good cheapish 1080p capable card. and what else is required to connect to tv..software etc.

Sorry about the long post, but you know that feeling when you have spent a lot of cash, and you are not 100% satisfied!

Thanks in advance!
I do not use the in built freeview tuner, I have sky HD, i have tried it with SKY + and have a simular experience..

I have the noise reduction set to off, but i will check the full settings tonight.

I cannot understand why the problems are not showing up on the PC games, it looks fine apart from being WAY to big.... mind you its a dvi to hdmi lead so this could have an effect.

Sky Hd also uses HDMI but i have also tried it on Scart RGB and this looks fine as well.

Have you got the TruD settig switched as this smooths out quite a bit over RGB Scart....

I don't know if you can use TruD when receiving freeview from the inbuilt tuner, you will have to check in the menu.

the SD From Sky is handled very well to ne honest, most lcd's and plasma cannot do a great job on the worst transmissions, i.e low bandwidth, it depends on how far away you are from the TV...

I will watch it some more tonight and see if i can find any more issues.

elliots

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CLH
Can someone comment on whether my experience of the sound is right?

Broadly speaking it's quite good.

However, on a "bass heavy" action film, well, there is none.

And sometimes the TV sounds "out of puff" when an explosion or drum beat happens, like a "blown speaker" if you know what I mean?

And it's crap with music.
I really think that this TVs sound is one of the best I've ever heard, music is fine for me and the volume is first class.
Was watching Eastenders one night and the sound on an outdoor scene was outstanding, really felt as if you were there.
Have been considering a Samsung 40F but the sound and volume seems really poor to me.

Captain

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Thanks elliots, I pretty much accept that the picture wont be perfect from via freeview due to signal strength etc. What has disappointed me more however is the picture via component.

I watched Superman Returns & V for Vendetta in HD via X360 component on 1080i and some DVDs on progressive scan also via component and while the picture was a lot better than SD there was still slight bluring and pixelation during fast moving scenes.

What are the general opinions on component v RGB scart for SD DVD playback?

Are you connecting anything via EXT 4? If so what are your settings?

Also im assuming DNR is noise reduction? Most users have this set on off, surely it should be on really!

Cheers

Therage79

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CLH
Can someone comment on whether my experience of the sound is right?

Broadly speaking it's quite good.

However, on a "bass heavy" action film, well, there is none.

And sometimes the TV sounds "out of puff" when an explosion or drum beat happens, like a "blown speaker" if you know what I mean?

And it's crap with music.
Disable clear voice. It's on by default, and sounds like a tweeter. With it off, it has much more midrange, and sounds considerbly better.

badbob

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Therage79
Also im assuming DNR is noise reduction? Most users have this set on off, surely it should be on really!

Cheers
Yes this is Digital Noise Reduction. It should only be used on poor sources, particular RF analogue feeds. With better digital sources it can actually have an adverse effect creating an unnatural, over processed picture with a number of unwanted artifacts.

neilmcl

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Plus the newest models should be 95% banding free so there aren't too many technical issues with this set now.

Of course we all want more inputs, 1080p everything (including 1080p24), even higher contrasts, perfect blacks, deep colour, etc..... All these features will come in future but I think at least now is a good time to jump on the LCD bandwagon as they are finally equal to or better than CRT. With HD there's no contest of course.

Splamone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splamone
Plus the newest models should be 95% banding free so there aren't too many technical issues with this set now.

Of course we all want more inputs, 1080p everything (including 1080p24), even higher contrasts, perfect blacks, deep colour, etc..... All these features will come in future but I think at least now is a good time to jump on the LCD bandwagon as they are finally equal to or better than CRT. With HD there's no contest of course.
Indeed they are!

People want more for less, which is understandable till some point. I think if you want a good LCD, which handles SD very well and takes it to another level with HD source material, the Sharp XD1E is the tv to get. The Sony is just too expensive for value.

At this moment, I think people should compare these sets differently, like:

"which tele gives it all, and doesn't spoil the fun eventhough its got issues"

Just ask yourself One Question: "Can I live with the fact that a tele just isn't 100% bugfree?" (which they will never be because it depends on too many factors)

MitchR

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splamone
Plus the newest models should be 95% banding free so there aren't too many technical issues with this set now.

Of course we all want more inputs, 1080p everything (including 1080p24), even higher contrasts, perfect blacks, deep colour, etc..... All these features will come in future but I think at least now is a good time to jump on the LCD bandwagon as they are finally equal to or better than CRT. With HD there's no contest of course.
I agree and have lived with my sharp46 inch for 3 weeks now.I have moved our previous primary set of 2 years ,the NEC 42vmp5 EDplasma to our bedroom.The resolution of the sharp is stunning especially on hd sat. and the contrast is the best I have seen in an lcd format.However dvds have taken some getting used to after watching a plasma for 2 years.Plasma to my old and failing eyes has a greater emotional impact when displaying dvd[panasonic s97 at 1080i].I would not give up the superior definition that my sharp offers for anything but I miss the contrast that plasma offers.Mind you this all may change when i buy and hook up a sony ps3 in the new year .As you say nothing is ever perfect but a series of trade offs.

badbob

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

So this TV doesn't support NTSC "film" mode? Most of my collection is Region 1, will be using a HTPC but probably add a DVD-Video player (quieter reader than the DVD-ROM drive)

badbob

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Hi, Finally I received my 37XD1E today buy I have a couple of problems:

When I configurate my Video card to send 1080p through
-HDMI with the ati X1600 HDMI pro

-or through the DVI (DVI to HDMI Cable) with the X1800XT

I'm can see this resolution but instead of fill all pixel of the monitor I get a black border all around the image of (about 1cm in each size)

I tried powerstrip to increase the size but not joy

Also when I conect my XBOX 360 I can't see anything when I select 1080p through componet of course evething is fine in 1080i

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

It doesn't accept 1080p over component, only HDMI. Any Pics?

Batch

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by andycorleone
Hi, Finally I received my 37XD1E today buy I have a couple of problems:

When I configurate my Video card to send 1080p through
-HDMI with the ati X1600 HDMI pro

-or through the DVI (DVI to HDMI Cable) with the X1800XT

I'm can see this resolution but instead of fill all pixel of the monitor I get a black border all around the image of (about 1cm in each size)

I tried powerstrip to increase the size but not joy

i
It sounds to me that the TV thinks the signal is 1080P 50 and you are sending it 1080P 60 !! try sending it 1080P 50 and see what happens !!!

Blighty_Boy

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Hi, please take a look of the images:

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

mmm, very strange. Have you tried what blighty suggested? Have you got a pic of the tv as a whole in its set up?

Batch

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blighty_Boy
It sounds to me that the TV thinks the signal is 1080P 50 and you are sending it 1080P 60 !! try sending it 1080P 50 and see what happens !!!
Hi,
actually if you look at the picture test1.jpg the LCD think the signal is 1920x1080 60hz who I think is correct

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by andycorleone
Hi,
actually if you look at the picture test1.jpg the LCD think the signal is 1920x1080 60hz who I think is correct
Are you using the underscan picture mode, this will give you 1 to 1 mapping and fill the screen.

neilmcl

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by neilmcl
Are you using the underscan picture mode, this will give you 1 to 1 mapping and fill the screen.
Yep and when I tried that the black borders increase almost the double (or something like that)

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Hi, I just read in other post that ATI Cards only works at 50HZ while Nvidias at 60Hz can anybody with an ATI Card have the same problem or is only me

andycorleone

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by andycorleone
Hi, I just read in other post that ATI Cards only works at 50HZ while Nvidias at 60Hz can anybody with an ATI Card have the same problem or is only me
I Have an X1300 !! I am supposed to be able to do 1080P/60 but I have never managed it, only 1080P/50 and that was with power strip

Blighty_Boy

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

I asked ATI(AMD) support to clarify which of their cards, if any, would support 1080p at refresh rates of 24,25,48,50,60hz etc but no reply as of yet (apart from a boiler plate "look at the specs" reply, which as I explained to them, aren't detailed enough).

Interestingly the Sony MCE box that comes with a Blu Ray drive uses a custom Nvidia card, but they warn that it may not have the horsepower to decode video at bitrates higher than 20Mbits - Blu-Ray supports up to 30Mbits AFAIK.

aitor_ibarra

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Can someone describe "banding" for me in detail? Thanks.

Zedmeister

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Search more posts on my name you will find pictures too.

enator

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zedmeister
Can someone describe "banding" for me in detail? Thanks.
How much detail do you want

Go to this thread on the US Forum:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=733575

Scroll down a few pages on the 1st post (yes its all one big post), you will see a large section all about "Banding", the section has a "red" title.

Happy reading

Graham.

snaithg

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ISEEDUMBPEOPLE
Purchased the 42" last Friday to replace my S series 40" Sony Bravia, which i had for about a year for HD viewing.

After setting it up (a little annoyed with the vertical arrangement of all the inputs at the back) i was quite surprised with quality of the SD images through Sky HD, and this was even before i started tweaking with the settings. Compared to the Bravia, they were excellent, especially Channel 5, the difference was huge.

HD programmes at 1080i looked outstanding on the Aquos compared to the Bravia, which to be fair to, i was initially quite impressed with anyway. Im not sure whether it is the extra two inches or the 1920x1080 resolution which makes it look better, but it certainly does.

Xbox 360 through component at 1080i looks a whole lot better too on this panel. No signs of ghosting or motion blur.

Upscaled DVD's on an LG 9900 at 1080i were also quite impressive and my Vaio laptop through VGA was fairly decent, but highest resolution i could get was 1280x768. I checked for dead pixels, none visible.

There was a slight humming on the set on the first night but went away after i adjusted the settings. It was barely audible with a Sky HD box next to it so its not an issue for me.

Up until yesterday, this panel was near faultless for me. This was until i watched the Newcastle/Man U game in HD. I began noticing very faint vertical bands when the camera was panning. I intially thought it was just this particular match as i hadnt noticed any during the Arsenal match on the Saturday. I then watched Match of the Day and noticed it again. The only times its apparent is when the camera is panning during football.

Not quite sure what to do at this point. To be honest, i had no idea what banding was until i read this thread. Has anyone else noticed this and is it normal during foo 21F0 tball?
I did not notice the banding on my 52inch set until I watched HD football and it is noticable on every game. I cannot see it on other programs but now I know its there it's annoying !!

lwesty

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Very weird, wonder why only HD Football, other movies or TV can be just as demanding, I know football is quite fast and crowd etc all come into play but still wonder why, if screen had a fault it would be there permanent if it was this issue with the rollers that make screen (rumour on here).

bliss007

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bliss007
Very weird, wonder why only HD Football, other movies or TV can be just as demanding, I know football is quite fast and crowd etc all come into play but still wonder 32E8 why, if screen had a fault it would be there permanent if it was this issue with the rollers that make screen (rumour on here).
Good for me that I don't like football.

enator

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Nor me, but I dont want banding of any type on the TV, I know feeds can be bad but I mean the banding we seem to read about on these 46" and 52" sets .

I got nice 1920x1080 photos made up with MS Paint, they are simply filled with a solid colour, like black, light grey, dark grey, blue, green, yellow and red, I think they will show up banding if any, I read the grey will anyhow, the others esp black will show up stuck/dead pixels.

bliss007

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

I'm expecting delivery of a LC-46XD1E on friday. I ordered this BEFORE I read any of these threads. Kinda wish I hadn't as now I'm totally expecting 'Banding', and the power supply noise previously mentioned. I'll keep you posted with the results.

captain curly

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
3890 Originally Posted by captain curly
I'm expecting delivery of a LC-46XD1E on friday. I ordered this BEFORE I read any of these threads. Kinda wish I hadn't as now I'm totally expecting 'Banding', and the power supply noise previously mentioned. I'll keep you posted with the results.
No bands on my 42", ok it buzzes but only on standby. Not really a concern- doesn't buzz when it's on....does it matter? Just switch it off at the mains when you've finished.

badbob

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

For some reason they tell you not to turn off at mains normally.

http://www.tradenet.sharp.co.uk/file...C46XD1E287.pdf

bliss007

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bliss007
For some reason they tell you not to turn off at mains normally.

http://www.tradenet.sharp.co.uk/file...C46XD1E287.pdf
Probably Japanese - English translation. I see no reason why unplugging from the mains is detrimental to the TV.

badbob

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Well after looking at these forums for quite a while, I've decided to take the plunge and go for the 42"

Dixons were down to ?1119, with free delivery (AFD199) and Co-Op ?20 discount (COOP20) plus a quidco (2.5%) and egg card discount (5%) gets it down to ?1016! Bargin

Haven't got a delivery date yet though - hope I don't have to wait too long...

zappa1973

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

I'm still waiting for the couriers to phone me and arrange a delivery date for my 42XD1E. I ordered it from Empire Direct on the 23rd Dec and I've called them twice since then just to check on progress.
The first time they said it had just arrived in stock that day (it was already showing as 'in stock' on their website when I ordered it) and that I would receive a call later that day. 4 days later and I'd still not heard anything so I called ED again and they said it will definately be this week that I get a call.

So if I'm lucky I will get a call in the next day or two and then actual delivery will probably not be until sometime next week

satriales

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

ED + Couriers ( Expert Logistics) made f00k up of mine, bought on Wed 27th, was told I get on Sat 30th, and it was a mess I am suppose to get today (Wed 3rd)

bliss007

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by zappa1973
Dixons were down to ?1119, with free delivery (AFD199) and Co-Op ?20 discount (COOP20) plus a quidco (2.5%) and egg card discount (5%) gets it down to ?1016! Bargin
wow certainly making use of every trick in the book eh - thats quite a price for this stunning tv!

capitaine

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crafty
The guys that have got currys to price match empire direct, are you guys near an empire direct store or did they just match it anyway ?

I'm miles away from any of the empire direct stores (on the south coast) and just wondering if they'd price match ? Just saves me staying in all day waiting for the thing to turn up if I could go get it locally myself.
Ditto.

Kdot

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

A report has come in that the US are starting to receive deliveries of their next generation LCDs (their D92 series). This may have a similar spec to our forthcoming HD1E series and will hopefully be without "Buzzing" and "Banding".

Information will be published over on the HD1E thread as it becomes available.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442453

Graham.

snaithg

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadieb
Well after watching some Sky and some Freeview my 52 inch is definitely suffering from banding. Mainly horizontal but there is definitely some smearing/banding on vertical pans as well. The banding isn't bad but I can see it annoying the hell out of me in the future

Thinking about it I am not sure if the TV Empire gave me was as brand new as they made out?

I need to be armed with as much info as possible before I contact Empire Direct for a swap over. TV was wrapped in a sheet plastic around the edges of the screen and the stand was too. The screws looked to be brand new and the packaging didn't appear as if it had been repacked? One thing I did notice is that it came supplied with Panasonic batteries. I am sure the last Sharp product I purchased came with Sharp branded batteries. Anybody tell me what make of batteries their unit came with?
My serial number starts 611 but I had read that Empire Direct have already sent out TV's with serial numbers starting 612.

Hmm! Not sure what to do now? Anybody know what ED will be like regarding a swap over. I collected my TV rather then having it delivered as I wanted to enjoy it over the christmas hols Will this affect me for a swapover? I hope they don't want me to return it to the store?

Any help/info appreciated.

I picked my 46 up in person on Xmas eve from Empire Direct and returned on boxing day because of horizontal banding for a replacement which I picked up today, unfortunately replacement also has banding so I am pretty P****d off. I will be returning the screen tommorrow for a refund and then will consider options after that.

waisal

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ijhammo
Hi all

Anyone looked at these in any detail?

Samsung LE46F71BX

Looks quite interesting although SD performance is supposed to be average. But it DOES do full 1920x1080 over VGA!
..and costs another ?500 (nearly). Doesn't do 1:1 pixel mapping over HDMI unless you apply a firmware patch that appears to be causing problems when people install it - according to the thread here Samsung have withdrawn the update in the Netherlands until they sort it out.. ditto for the 40" model.

Crafty

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Hi,

I have a Buffalo LinkTheater, what would be the best way to connect the audio and video to the LC-42XD1E to hopefully view 1080i video?

Many thanks for any advice - please direct me to another forum if there is a more appropriate place to post this question.

Regards,
spann

spann

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ijhammo
So, fatcat, any banding or buzzing?
Intermittant Banding ..vertical on all AV channels.. Replacement due next Friday.. Serial 610xxx.. I have asked for a later one... hopefully 612xxxx.. But Currys dealt with the issue very nicely ...

fatcat168

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by raghav
Could somebody kindly post some instructions (and photos) of their PC connections to their TVs ? I'm trying to conect my laptop and don't know what cables to use. cheers


I have 1 of thses below from my laptop.. it has DVI out

http://www.cableuniverse.co.uk/catal...&cPath=148_176

then a 3.5mm to phono

http://www.cableuniverse.co.uk/catal...oducts_id=1581

or

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...e=12&doy=28m12

Wronghole

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

It doesn't seem to matter whether you get a more recent one. They haven't fixed the problem, and seems like its just pot luck if you get a good one. The first one I had was a 611, the new one is a 612 and this one seems even worse than the last one

danf_42

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Hi all , been watching this thread with interest. I did a search here on what banding looks like and didnt have much luck. Can anyone direct me to a photo of what banding looks like???? I googled it also , it didnt come up with much for tv's ?


Cheers in advance

Evilstorm

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by enator
No thanks, Sammy is for sammy lover.
lol And your reasons would be???

ijhammo

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crafty
..and costs another ?500 (nearly). Doesn't do 1:1 pixel mapping over HDMI unless you apply a firmware patch that appears to be causing problems when people install it - according to the thread here Samsung have withdrawn the update in the Netherlands until they sort it out.. ditto for the 40" model.
ok, admit it is more expensive, but the HDMI is V1.3, there are no reports of banding or buzzing and it does 1080p on hdmi, component and VGA. Personally i'd shell out the extra spondulies for a banding free picture alone.

And the really key thing here is that SAMSUNG are actually DOING something about the overscan issue on HDMI. Ie, the manufacturer has listened to its customers and tried to do something about it. What has Sharp done about the buzzing and banding? That'll be a big fat nothing followed up by telling its customers that "its within spec"

Dont get me wrong, I like the Sharp a lot - but I just cant live with the banding and as whether you get a set with banding is completely hit or miss (serial numbers seem to show that) I just cant see the point in continually going through replacement sets until you get a good one.

ijhammo

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcat168
Intermittant Banding ..vertical on all AV channels.. Replacement due next Friday.. Serial 610xxx.. I have asked for a later one... hopefully 612xxxx.. But Currys dealt with the issue very nicely ...
Crafty - I rest my case..

But I really wish it wasn't the case and Sharp would actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!

ijhammo

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crafty
The guys that have got currys to price match empire direct, are you guys near an empire direct store or did they just match it anyway ?

I'm miles away from any of the empire direct stores (on the south coast) and just wondering if they'd price match ? Just saves me staying in all day waiting for the thing to turn up if I could go get it locally myself.


I had an empire store near me .. 5 miles so they PMed it without issues.

fatcat168

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ijhammo
lol And your reasons would be???
No love for Sammy

enator

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ijhammo
Crafty - I rest my case..

But I really wish it wasn't the case and Sharp would actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!
I spose if you are going for a 46", but Im looking at the 42, so banding isnt an issue :D

Crafty

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Can someone who's playing with a PC or Scaler connected to one of these please test out what refresh rates work at 1:1 in 1080p HDMI?

i.e. 60Hz, 50Hz and maybe some multiple of 24 (24, 48, 72).

If you know how please check for judder too.

Ta muchly!

ailean

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcar
This is strange that the noise increases as the backlight level lowers.
Is it odd though? it;s the sort of thing that sounds vaguely familiar to the dimmer switches I have around my house.

On another note, I saw the 37GE on Victoria Street in London - but it was impossible to tell if there was either buzzing or really rate the picture quality on that one. No sign of the XDEs...

gavinhanly

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quo 3890 te:
Originally Posted by bobcar
This is strange that the noise increases as the backlight level lowers. It must be something like the lower frequency of the switchmode power supply causes some sort of resonance in the transformer causing the buzz. If so this could be designed out.
Not strange at all, have you never noticed buzzing when using a dimmer light switch, the lower the setting, the more resistance, the louder any noise can be.

You beat me to it Gavin

neilmcl

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ailean
Can someone who's playing with a PC or Scaler connected to one of these please test out what refresh rates work at 1:1 in 1080p HDMI?

i.e. 60Hz, 50Hz and maybe some multiple of 24 (24, 48, 72).

If you know how please check for judder too.
Yeah, can I echo this - definitely interested to know the outcome of such tests.

cheers
v.f.

voodooflux

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ailean
Can someone who's playing with a PC or Scaler connected to one of these please test out what refresh rates work at 1:1 in 1080p HDMI?

i.e. 60Hz, 50Hz and maybe some multiple of 24 (24, 48, 72).

If you know how please check for judder too.

Ta muchly!
I've got my PC connected via a DVI to HDMI cable. I get 1:1 mapping and no overscan at 1080p/60Hz. I have the option to set it to either 50Hz or 60Hz. I tried both and there was no stutter.

paulm187

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by chambeaj
Unfortunately the SONY's processing and colour reproduction sucks (not to mention more than noticeable motion blur/smearing).
Hi everyone

Am I right in thinking that apart from the orangy-reds, everything is fixed when using a VP (e.g. DVDO VP50)

Also, when is the 52X2000 coming out?

(sorry, yes I know this is Sharp thread)
Thanks.
Chris

Chris5

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcar
This is strange that the noise increases as the backlight level lowers. It must be something like the lower frequency of the switchmode power supply causes some sort of resonance in the transformer causing the buzz. If so this could be designed out.
Or it could be physical noise from "Triacs" which are used in cheap lamp dimmers to "chop up" AC power, they tend to get quite noisy as dimming is increased.

Graham.

snaithg

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Film mode
Automatically detects a film-based source (originally
encoded at 24/25 frames/second, depending on the
vertical frequency), analyses it and then recreates each
frame for film-like picture quality.
So you've got your HD-DVD player outputting 1080p60, the screen detects it is 24fps film material initially(how?) extracts the 24 frames and displays it at 120Hz, each frame shown 5 times, correct?

speedsix

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by speedsix
So you've got your HD-DVD player outputting 1080p60, the screen detects it is 24fps film material initially(how?) extracts the 24 frames and displays it at 120Hz, each frame shown 5 times, correct?
Well for a start film mode is not going to apply to an incoming progressive scan signal as the deinterlacing has already been done. Film mode only applies to interlaced video signals. Also it's the TruD chip which performs the frame conversion to 100/120Hz not Sharps Film Mode.

neilmcl

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blighty_Boy
With regards to banding, this is no suprise to me after seeing the Harrods demo model, however for the price im paying if it's as faint as on mine as it is on the harrods model I will me happy :D

With regards to the 42" I would defo take the goodmans 42" over the sharp !! it has the same 42" panel from CMO and is one of only 2 TV's I know of in the UK that will accept 1:1 dot by dot 1080P over VGA and Component aswell as HDMI, which means its one of 2 TV's that can actually use the XBOX 360 1080P upgrade to the Full, at a mere ?1100 a real bargain compared to the sharp

No built in freeview though, if you want built in freeview you will have to buy the tatung version that the goodmans has been rebadged from !
Where can i find out about the tatung version have tried a few search engines but to no avail . Do you have a model no?

iain low

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by iain low
Where can i find out about the tatung version have tried a few search engines but to no avail . Do you have a model no?
There is a thread on the Goodmans here: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394235

neilmcl

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

People have missed my point about it being strange that the noise increases as the power decreases, I don't deny it happens, I was wondering why. Incidentally a switch mode power supply is different from a dimmer switch which just switches off part of the 50Hz cycle to dim the light, it's easy to see how you get noise from that. A switch mode power supply contains an oscillator running at a very high frequency that "generates" more power as needed (this high frequency is easily filtered later because it is so high).

Items (transformer) can vibrate if energy is lost while they are being used (heat is usually the main power loss). Now in a switch mode power supply the frequency usually decreases as less power is used (the resistance does not increase as someone suggested) although some switch modes can use different techniques. My guess was that the lower frequency was causing an audible resonance at the lower level, however the normal switching frequency varies from 100kHz upwards and is quite inaudible which is why I find it strange.

Perhaps someone with more knowledge than myself can give a good explanation for this phenomenon rather than "it does it so it's not strange". It will be quite a simple answer, I just don't know it (it's not in my field) which is why I asked the question.

bobcar

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcar
People have missed my point about it being strange that the noise increases as the power decreases, I don't deny it happens, I was wondering why. Incidentally a switch mode power supply is different from a dimmer switch which just switches off part of the 50Hz cycle to dim the light, it's easy to see how you get noise from that. A switch mode power supply contains an oscillator running at a very high frequency that "generates" more power as needed (this high frequency is easily filtered later because it is so high).

Items (transformer) can vibrate if energy is lost while they are being used (heat is usually the main power loss). Now in a switch mode power supply the frequency usually decreases as less power is used (the resistance does not increase as someone suggested) although some switch modes can use different techniques. My guess was that the lower frequency was causing an audible resonance at the lower level, however the normal switching frequency varies from 100kHz upwards and is quite inaudible which is why I find it strange.

Perhaps someone with more knowledge than myself can give a good explanation for this phenomenon rather than "it does it so it's not strange". It will be quite a simple answer, I just don't know it (it's not in my field) which is why I asked the question.
Hey Sharp if you read this so please answer him

enator

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris5
Hi everyone

Am I right in thinking that apart from the orangy-reds, everything is fixed when using a VP (e.g. DVDO VP50)

Also, when is the 52X2000 coming out?

(sorry, yes I know this is Sharp thread)
Thanks.
Chris
You can't get past Wide Colour Gamut CCFLs though, which is a killer for the Sony LCDs. The only ones that don't have it (S series) are 720p native and won't do 1:1 mapping at 50Hz, so you won't be able to use an external processor with it.

WCG-CCFL turns reds pink, oranges red/pink, yellows green, adds macroblocking/noise and more. It really is awful.

Quote:
Originally Posted by neilmcl
Well for a start film mode is not going to apply to an incoming progressive scan signal as the deinterlacing has already been done. Film mode only applies to interlaced video signals. Also it's the TruD chip which performs the frame conversion to 100/120Hz not Sharps Film Mode.
Are you sure the set is even doing 100/120Hz? I thought it was only TruD HD that did that, and not the current models.

andrewfee

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcar
People have missed my point about it being strange that the noise increases as the power decreases, I don't deny it happens, I was wondering why. Incidentally a switch mode power supply is different from a dimmer switch which just switches off part of the 50Hz cycle to dim the light, it's easy to see how you get noise from that. A switch mode power supply contains an oscillator running at a very high frequency that "generates" more power as needed (this high frequency is easily filtered later because it is so high).

Items (transformer) can vibrate if energy is lost while they are being used (hea 4000 t is usually the main power loss). Now in a switch mode power supply the frequency usually decreases as less power is used (the resistance does not increase as someone suggested) although some switch modes can use different techniques. My guess was that the lower frequency was causing an audible resonance at the lower level, however the normal switching frequency varies from 100kHz upwards and is quite inaudible which is why I find it strange.

Perhaps someone with more knowledge than myself can give a good explanation for this phenomenon rather than "it does it so it's not strange". It will be quite a simple answer, I just don't know it (it's not in my field) which is why I asked the question.
As I stated in my earlier post, I consider it is most likely due to "Triac" noise, which typically get noiser as the dimming gets lower. These devices are what cause the buzzing in cheap domestic dimmer switches.

Graham.

snaithg

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Does this law cover Debit Cards issued by Visa ?
1stAV charge 2% for a credit card so I used my Delta







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Originally Posted by mk-donald
If the vendor won't refund you in breach of trading law and common law, and you bought the goods on CREDIT CARD then go after your credit card company as they have EQUAL LIABILITY with the provider of the goods under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. Their leverage will either get the vendor to cough up, or will have to cough up themselves. If they don't within a reasonable time - say 28 days - then make a FORMAT COMPLAINT to the credit provider and then just 21F0 take them to the Financial Ombudsman if that fails (which it shouldn't) as it costs the bank a sizable sum to even be complained about!

I got ?120 owed by an ADSL provider who gave up providing the service, refunded by BarclayCard promptly - just have clear documentary evidence eg (in your case the sale, your complaint of faulty goods, the vendor's denial of refund) and be clear you are claiming against credit provider under CCA74-S75.

BUT do also make a complaint to Trading Standards as criminals selling faulty goods and stealing customers money should be driven out of business quickly!

lwesty

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Well took delivery of my 42XDE1 today from Dixons, only just had a chance to have a proper play and gotta say i'm impressed, very impressed.

I was replacing it with a panasonic 32LXD52 which was a lovely set with superb PQ. And in HD the sharp tops it.

I've not had a fiddle with any settings yet, everything based on default settings and there's no ghosting, banding or noise (when tv off or on).

I've connected my PS3 at 1080p and it's jaw droppingly good, watched bits of superman blu-ray and it's really nice. Played Tekken 5, GTHD and Currently Gripshift, all look deliciously good. The problem is, as the tv's only about 8' away from me in this room, the ps3 games i've treid so far are showing how jaggy their edges are

Tried the 360 (at 1080i), and again looks superb, no ghosting at all, so no fears there.

The only problem with it so far is the SD quality from RGB scart from my sky+ box, it's pretty bad if i'm honest. We've got no freeview signal around here so can't test that, but a friend of mine who got his today too says freeview looks superb. But through rgb scart i'm finding it pretty ropey with really blocky looking text, again probably some settings i need to read up on and tweak.

I've still got all the plastic wrapping etc on it atm as i want to give it a few days to settle in before deciding to keep it, but the whole unit looks damn sexy too.

Ooh tried my Oppo (1080i one) upscaling on it, again, superb, can't fault it.

Definitley worth getting anywaay, can certainly recommend it.

Ooh one thing though, the contrast seems to fluctuate a bit, like on hdmi port i've noticed that blacks lighten up quite a bit between scenes or when swapping games and stuff, not sure what thats about but is kinda offputting.

Ooh and the lack of component ports (not the dodgy vga->component adapter) is annoying for poeople who want to connect a pc at the same time (not me) and no phono audio input either

But still 2 thumbs up here, will try to get some pics 2morrow of the ps3 in action on there.

_Belial

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Originally Posted by _Belial
Ooh one thing though, the contrast seems to fluctuate a bit, like on hdmi port i've noticed that blacks lighten up quite a bit between scenes or when swapping games and stuff, not sure what thats about but is kinda offputting.
Change the AV Mode to USER and make any changes to settings etc in this mode. The other modes use Extended/Dynamic Contrast, or whatever its called, which may be the cause of this.

neilmcl

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

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Originally Posted by _Belial
The only problem with it so far is the SD quality from RGB scart from my sky+ box, it's pretty bad if i'm honest.
On my 37", the EXT1 SCART was set to CVBS on the Sharp itself and had to be changed there as well as on my external Freeview PVR. Both had to be changed to RGB to get a decent picture and now the picture from the external box is about as good as the one from the internal DTV tuner.

TrevorPH

Sharp 1080p XD1E Range (incl. LC-52XD1E and LC-46XD1E)

Thanks for the suggestions guys, my EXT1 was set to CVBS not RGB (sky defo in RGB mode) but that doesnt seem to have made a great deal of difference if i'm honest.

AV mode was already in user mode

All other inputs looks spot on, just sky over rgb seems bad.

But definitely no smearing, banding or buzzing

_Belial

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