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Question The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U ( AVForums LCD Flat Panel Televisions )
Updated: 2008-05-12 13:11:41 (853)
The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hello everyone.

Lots of interest in these sets. The upcoming V series has a thread so I thought the new S should have one too. They're out now!!

So if you have one or have viewed one please post your findings here. I'll start the ball rolling.

Just viewed the 26" at ASK electronics on Tott Crt Road. They gave me full access to the settings and displayed Freeview and an HD feed.

Freeview. Well, it's Freeview isn't it? Not exactly mind-blowing. But the Sony aquitted itself very well indeed. As good as any LCD I've seen.

HD. Superb. But it should be.

What's terrific about this set is the overall PQ. Natural colour, excellent blacks, excellent motion handling. The Bravia Engine is good stuff. And a wealth of settings too. Almost every nuance of the picture can be adjusted to taste via the new (and very neat) menu system.

The bottom line is I thought the picture quality was at least the equal of my V32. And better than everything else in the shop. I have no brand loyalty. Just my honest opinion. In particular - significantly better than the new Panny LX60 next to it (and a damn sight better looking!).

The best thing about it? The price. It was ?820 in the shop for the 26". Congrats to Sony. It's a winner.

Answers: The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U ( AVForums LCD Flat Panel Televisions )
The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

What are the best settings for the following sources on the KDL26S2010 Tv

SKY (Scart)

FreeView

Terrestial TV

DVD Player (Scart)

Xbox 360 (Component)

bbeer

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi i'm researching buying a new TV and i like the look of the Sony Bravia however i am a little confused help

I'm to these forums so i am sorry if this question has already been asked and answered

I have been researching the prices for both the Sony Bravia KDL-V26A12U and the KDL26S2010 on the internet

The price range i get for the V26A12U is anywhere between ?900 and ?1300

The cheapest price for the 26S2010 appears to be around ?750

I understand the V26A12U is the older model

My questions are Why is the older model more expensive, does the older model have a better spec and which is the better TV (i know thats subjective) but from my point of view the older one looks a lot nicer

Thanks

Z

Any help would be greatly appreciated

zuma

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

The older one isn't better, no. Not from any reports I've heard, anyway. It probably costs more because some store forgot it was in their system!

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by zuma
Hi i'm researching buying a new TV and i like the look of the Sony Bravia however i am a little confused help

I'm to these forums so i am sorry if this question has already been asked and answered

I have been researching the prices for both the Sony Bravia KDL-V26A12U and the KDL26S2010 on the internet

The price range i get for the V26A12U is anywhere between £900 and £1300

The cheapest price for the 26S2010 appears to be around £750

I understand the V26A12U is the older model

My questions are Why is the older model more expensive, does the older model have a better spec and which is the better TV (i know thats subjective) but from my point of view the older one looks a lot nicer

Thanks

Z

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Yes that's right, what Lyris said. It's just that some places have stupid prices on their old stock no matter what the current technology is doing. They refuse to cut the price. Eventually some plonker will buy it even though there are cheaper, newer and better sets available that they are unaware of.

Also I'm sure you can do better than £750. I paid £610 for my 26S2030 (the same as the 2010 but in black instead of dark grey) 3 months ago. You can get it for under £600 including delivery now.

Prices for the 26S2030

and also the 26S2010

chocky909

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I managed to get the 2010 for ?500 in John Lewis with 5 years warrenty.

What are the best settings for the xbox 360?

bbeer

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Bbeer, where did you price match against to get that price? A friend is looking for a good 26" HDTV...

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeer
I managed to get the 2010 for ?500 in John Lewis with 5 years warrenty.

What are the best settings for the xbox 360?
I'm very surprised by that. Any details?

All processing (noise reduction and advance controls) off. Sharpness minimum. Power saving low. Backlight low. Contrast 60 ish. Brightness 40 ish. Colour 60 ish. Backlight control off.

Good luck.

chocky909

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I didn't have to price match with anyone else as John Lewis had it on offer for ?500.

bbeer

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeer
I didn't have to price match with anyone else as John Lewis had it on offer for ?500.
Was it brand new or an ex-display model? Either way, you got yourself a bargain especially with the 5 year guarantee!

chocky909

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Brand New TV well chuffed with it.

bbeer

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeer
Brand New TV well chuffed with it.
Well it makes no sense why they would sell it for ?500 when it's supposed to be priced at ?749. Which branch did you get it from and was it the last one?

chocky909

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Got it from the Norwich Branch who were selling it for ?500 as apparently sainsburys were selling it for the same price (although I checked the all 3 sainsbury's in Norwich and couldn't find any of them selling it). The Norwich Branch have now replaced it for the 2030 which they are selling for ?649

bbeer

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

KDL26S2030
Does anyone know what the factory picture settings were ? Just to compare really

Aletank

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

"Freeview's a service delivered through an aerial - it's over the air only. The tuner in the TV is DVB-T (Terrestrial)."
Thanks for the info Lyris.Seems ironic that when they started planning Milton Keynes as the "City of the Future" they installed cable so as to do away with rooftop aerials which the deemed as unsightly.Now every house needs a dish or aerial to pick up didital tv.
Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.

old stoneface

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quick question, although it may not be easy to answer. I hate "Colour Space Wide", and "Live Colour Creation" - if I am not using either of these, is there actually any improvement over the S series?

I assumed that there would be, but after seeing that the "vivid" and "standard" presets force it on you, as well as VGA; I'm having my doubts. (why else would they do it?)

It's my understanding that the Wide Colour Space allows the set to go beyond the NTSC, PAL etc gamuts, but normal "caps" the display to the one in use. However, does that mean it's actually reproducing more than the S? I thought that it would, as typical LCDs are only around 70% of the gamut (iirc) but this Greek magazine thing is worrying.

I do own a Spyder 2 Pro, but unfortunately it's away for repair right now, so I'm really wishing I had waited for it to be returned before ordering.

Basically, if it turns out that the S and V are the same when set to "normal" I'm going to return this for the S, which will be a better set, as it's otherwise identical, but it means that VGA will be usable for my 360 (I hate the overscan and edge enhancement you get on component) and then you would have two, if not three usable presets per input, rather than just one. (I currently have three devices hooked up via component, and have to manually adjust things for each one, as I can only use "custom."



EDIT: I thought I had the V series topic open, sorry, I'll post this in the proper place. (although hopefully someone here can help answer my question)

andrewfee

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

There is no mention in the magazine for one of the two sets to be better than the other. The approach is different. S reproduces the colors as they are while V makes them deeper. So it's more a question of personal preference to which one someone likes better. For example many complain that S series red is not deep enough while others say that V series red is too vivid.
The rest of the picture seems to be identical from what i can understand.

Yannis

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

There are differences:

S Series | V Series
White: 6.410 Kelvin | 6.353 Kelvin
Brightness: 148nits | 280nits
Contrast Ratio: 264:1 | 555:1

The magazine states that although tests showed that Wide Colour goes beyond the acceptable levels, it has indeed colours that are very pleasent for the viewer's eyes.

Also the higher contrast ratio of V series makes it able to produce perfect blacks.

martyras

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I've found the brightness and contrast levels on my 26" S very good with accurate blacks, so the V must be amzing if the figures quoted above are accurate.

stu.artd

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by martyras
The magazine states that although tests showed that Wide Colour goes beyond the acceptable levels, it has indeed colours that are very pleasent for the viewer's eyes.

Also the higher contrast ratio of V series makes it able to produce perfect blacks.
Good i 'm glad someone else confirms the magazine test.

Dispite the differences they grade the picture for both sets at 9.2/10 so it seems the V is better in some parts but the S in others.

Yannis

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyris
Fallows, how about the black levels? I'd imagine in store the lighting is set up to show the TVs at their best. Remember the Samsungs don't give you a lot of control over the backlight manually - have they improved the Automatic Sensor over the older ones?
Turn the auto sensor off in store...with all the lighting being stupidly high in our stores means the picture can look over compensated with it on...

Sony S2010 performed well today with our new telewest box...better blacks than samsung yes...but samsung had better whites (with dynamic on)

I just brought the previous samsung model (40r51 ... for £850 hehe) and tested that instore today...analogue channels not good...HD it competed with the new toshiba wlt66 easily and near as good as the sony too...just black levels which lacked depth...but with HD the sony did rule supreme!!!

fallows

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Out of interest, could anyone with an Xbox 360 tell me how the VGA performance compares to component on this TV?

I'm thinking of buying the 26S2010U, but would like to know how many image options are disabled when using the VGA input. For instance, I've got last year's Sammy - the LE32R41B - and hooking a 360 up to it via VGA leaves most colour options unusable. So much for calibration. What makes this really annoying is that the picture is noticeably more 'washed out' than when using component leads (the latter is more colourful, but less detailed overall).

daddyorchips

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I use VGA for my PC and component for my 360 but the disabled items are the same.

Under VGA you can alter backlight, contrast, brightness and colour temperature.
Colour, sharpness, NR and the Advanced settings are all disabled.

stu.artd

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Heh, cheers for your quick reply, was actually just pm'ing you with the very same questions!

Pity about the disabled options. Seems most LCD TVs are this way. Ack, back to the drawing board I guess.

Actually, one more thing. How do you find the general brightness of the 360 picture over component? Also, what's the sharpness like? Do you have to lower it from the default setting to eliminate any false contouring/edge enhancement whatsoever?

Cheers!

daddyorchips

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I've replied to the PM as well

The 360 is bright enough over component, I have set the backlight to 7 (out of 10) contrast 70, brightness 60 and sharpening is at 10 and I find that OK.

To be honest the pic is very good over component and VGA, it's just different. I'd happilly use either but the VGA connection is already spoken for by my PC.

stu.artd

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Just checking, but is the "Sony KDL32S201" on the Dixons website (www.dixons.co.uk) actually the Sony KDL32S2010??

Seems a very similar spec but the missing last digit is confusing...

mclh

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by mclh
Just checking, but is the "Sony KDL32S201" on the Dixons website (www.dixons.co.uk) actually the Sony KDL32S2010??

Seems a very similar spec but the missing last digit is confusing...
The pic looks identical to the 26" S2010 I have here so I'd say it's the 32S2010. The mention of the S-PVA panel should confirm it.

stu.artd

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi,

I'd really like to know :is anybody got some backlight bleeding/spot on their models, even hardly noticeable? Mine has a very little one at the very left of the panel ; it doesn't really bother me, but i'd like to know if anyone is in the same case (with a S or a V model). Thanks !

Trymon

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trymon
Hi,
I'd really like to know :is anybody got some backlight bleeding/spot on their models, even hardly noticeable? Mine has a very little one at the very left of the panel ; it doesn't really bother me, but i'd like to know if anyone is in the same case (with a S or a V model). Thanks !
Are you talking about the 32 or the 40 inch?

The 40 inch sets are affected more by backlight "leackage" due to the panel being bigger.

Yannis

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Thanks Menorcaman, got it working eventually. I don't think I was pressing the buttons quick enough, thanks again.

ritzie

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Is anybody experiencing the picture going in slow motion when using Sky via RGB scart on the 2030'S?

Just wanted to know if this problem has been resolved?

In the summer of last year, I had a 26S2010 and sent it back because of this very issue.

markelliott

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

There was someone on the forum somewhere who mentioned this very problem it may have been in this thread but not sure. They said it was especially noticeable when the banner appeared on sky news. Try and do a search on it you should find something on the subject.

ritzie

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by ritzie
There was someone on the forum somewhere who mentioned this very problem it may have been in this thread but not sure. They said it was especially noticeable when the banner appeared on sky news. Try and do a search on it you should find something on the subject.
Yes there was a whole thread about this issue, but as a lot of people on this thread mention using Sky on their 2030's, I'd like to know if anybody is having this problem.

The picture on my 26S2010 would judder like the frame rate had dropped when displaying the Sky EPG banner, and would also happen on channels such as Sky News which contain a lot of graphics. Therefore, I would like to know if this issue has been fixed on the newer 2030's?

markelliott

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I have'nt set up sky on my 2030 yet so can't help you sorry, although I do hope they have sorted out the problem as I'm looking to get it hooked up some time soon. I would be interested in the answer too.

ritzie

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibrasky
btw menorca is your sky - sky hd? or sky plus/digital?
Hi Gibrasky,

Sky HD? How I wish!! No, just plain old Sky SD I'm afraid. Signal is a bit ropey in the evenings, even on a 1.2 meter dish, so goodness knows what size antenna I would need for HD reception.

Regards

Menorcaman

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by markelliott
Yes there was a whole thread about this issue, but as a lot of people on this thread mention using Sky on their 2030's, I'd like to know if anybody is having this problem.

The picture on my 26S2010 would judder like the frame rate had dropped when displaying the Sky EPG banner, and would also happen on channels such as Sky News which contain a lot of graphics. Therefore, I would like to know if this issue has been fixed on the newer 2030's?
Can't say that I've noticed anything untoward. Mine was manufactured end of January this year, so maybe there has been a hardware or firmware update? Don't know what any of it means but the following info was copied down from the Service Menu:

Main Ver. 1320
H Pack Ver. 1205
S Pack Ver. 1202
NVM Ver. 1231
EMMA Ver. 2.5.511

Regards

Menorcaman

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by crisp1
Finally bought this TV! I've used the same settings as these and I must say it gives a much better picture than straight out the box. What im wondering is if anyone has any other suggestions on settings so I can try out a range and also if people use different settings for the DVD player than the freeview?

Any help much appreciated!!
I've had my KDL26s2030 for two weeks now.

I'm really suprised people are turning down the constract below 100%. For me, the LCD panel, like many others, suffers from limited constrast (2030 spec'd at 1200:1). With daylight ambient lighting, images look flattened. To enjoy this tv at it's best, you really do have to wind-down ambient lighting.

Digital TV viewing settings:
Backlight: 5
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 46
Colour: 55
Temp: Cool
Sharpness: 5
NR: off
Black: off
C/E: off
Gamma: off
white: off
Live Colour: Low
MPEG NR: off

Still the best 26" on the market though.

ARMless

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by ARMless
Still the best 26" on the market though.
I agree, as long as you don't intend to use Sky or any other scart devices on it.

I'm glad I sent mine back. Not only because of the deinterlacing problems on the scarts inputs, but also because when I bought mine only 2010 grey models were available, and the grey looks crap compared to the newer 2030 black models.

markelliott

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by Menorcaman
Well I've have had my KDL-26S2020 for a week now and must say I'm very pleased. Ordered it from my local Sony dealer here in Menorca at a price of 999€ (no special discounts here I'm afraid ). Asked for it to be unpacked and demonstrated so that I could check for dead or stuck pixels (there were none ). My request surprised the manager, who stated that his Spanish customers had never asked to do that.

Anyway, I've settled on the following settings for Sky and terrestrial digital TV:

Power Saving = Low
Light Sensor = On
Backlight = 4
Contrast = 85
Brightness = 52
Colour = 55
Colort Temp = Neutral
Sharpness = 12
Noise Reduction = Off

Black Corrector = Off
Contrast Enhancer = Off
Gamma = Low
Clear white = Off
Live Colour = Low
Mpeg Noise Reduction = Off

Drive and Background colours were then set up as follows:

- Firstly, note down your colour setting and then set the slider to minimum i.e. no colour.
- Display a stationary picture containing a good range of greyscale, from black to peak white.
- Using the remote controller keys, enter the Service Menu by pressing TV standby OFF, I+, 5, Vol Up, TV standby ON in sequence.
- Do NOT touch anything other than the Drive and Background settings. Note down their factory default settings before changing them. My own factory defaults were:
R_Drive = 269
G_Drive = 256
B_Drive = 236
R_Bkg = 511
G_Bkg = 512
B_Bkg = 513

- Adjust the R_Drive, G_Drive & B_Drive for purest peak whites and light greys. Aim for cool peak whites approximating to Illumance D (very slight blue'ish/green tint).
- Adjust the R_Bkg, G_Bkg & B_Bkg for purest blacks and dark greys. Again, aim for a very slight blue'ish/green tint.
- Alternate between the Drive and Background settings until you achieve a uniform greyscale. Do not use too high a setting on any one of the colours (best to reduce one or both of the other two colours instead). My final settings were:
R_Drive = 253
G_Drive = 256
B_Drive = 226
R_Bkg = 501
G_Bkg = 502
B_Bkg = 503

- Exit the Service Menu by switching to TV standby OFF then back ON again, enter the Picture Menu and reset the Colour control to the figure noted down previously. Readjust Brightness and Contrast slightly if need be.

I must emphasise that people perceive colours differently and my settings may not suite your own taste.

Regards
Having now spent a bit more time with the 26S2020, I've been able to refine the above Drive and Background settings by manually tuning my Sky digibox to a colour bar transmission on Eurobird 28.5 East as follows:

- On the Sky remote select Services and press 4, 0, 1, SELECT in sequence to enter the hidden service menu.
- In the service menu select Manual Tuning and set Frequency: 11307, Polarisation: H, Symbol Rate: 27.5 and FEC: 2/3. After that select Find Channels.
- Once locked onto the transponder, press SELECT and choose One TV from the list of channels displayed and press the Yellow button to add it to your Other Channels.
- When finished, back out of the service menu.

Firstly, before making any adjustments to your TV's settings, make sure the backlight has reached its set brightness level (shouldn't take more than 5 minutes from switch on).

You can now tune to One TV via your Other Channels selection. This will display full screen colour bars, which give a nice greyscale when you reduce the Sony's colour to zero as explained in the above quote. This was used to refine my Drive and Background settings to the following readings:

R_Drive = 243
G_Drive = 256
B_Drive = 236
R_Bkg = 501
G_Bkg = 502
B_Bkg = 513

Your final setting may well end up different to mine as I doubt whether any two TVs are exactly the same, let alone differences in peoples colour perception.

Regards

Menorcaman

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Is there a way to alter the input that is selected on startup with these TV's? When I turn it on, it always goes to Freeview first, is there a way of changing this? Thanks

ritzie

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by ritzie
Is there a way to alter the input that is selected on startup with these TV's? When I turn it on, it always goes to Freeview first, is there a way of changing this? Thanks
Nope, sorry.

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi,

I'm new to all this complicated stuff so go easy on me.

I recently bought a Sony KDL26S2030 (great TV) after getting a Samsung and having nothing but trouble with it. The Sony has been well worth the extra cash so far.

Quick question. If I plug component cables from my DVD player into the TV, do I need seperate cables for the audio?

Thanks,

Martino.

Martino1970

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Quick question. If I plug component cables from my DVD player into the TV, do I need seperate cables for the audio?
Yep

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi Lyris

As a fellow Scot it is good to see that you put your hand in your pocket and invest in good quality av stuff (not all Scots are tight!).

But you've just gone from a 32V to a 40W - do you really need to keep on buying new tellys? considering 'most' folk hang onto a telly for between 5-10 years why change?, or are you seeing a major difference each time you change? What happens when Sony bring something new out late 2007? Changing so quickly must only offer small incremental gains?

I salute your indefatigability (and technical know-how).

BA Baracus

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Has anyone suffered the same backlight clouding as the W series in a S series screen? I was planning a 40W2000 but im not going to risk ?1,400 for a Television that may have some dreadful backlight problems. While I know that you take a risk especially with newer technology the W2000 thread seems a touch ridiculous with the amount of problems so im just going to wait until Sony can release a reasonabley priced 1080p screen that doesnt have lots of unwanted characteristics.

I was planning the 40S2030 but I may just go for the newer 40S2530. Anyone notice any particular problems with these screens?

I have a 32S2030 currently and its brilliant - not a problem

FoolsGold

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeer
My settings on my KDL26S2010

Backlight 5
Contrast 70
Brightness 52
Colour 60
Neutral
Sharpness 10
NR Low
Black Low
C/E Low
Gamma Med
white Low
Live Colour Low
MPeg NR Low
Finally bought this TV! I've used the same settings as these and I must say it gives a much better picture than straight out the box. What im wondering is if anyone has any other suggestions on settings so I can try out a range and also if people use different settings for the DVD player than the freeview?

Any help much appreciated!!

crisp1

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Thanks for using my settings I configured these from the THX settings on the Cars DVD.

bbeer

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Do you use the same settings for the in-built freeview??

crisp1

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

hello,
i plan to buy a 40"S sony lcd rather soon, as this thread helped me a lot to decide.
i really like the design from an american model wich is called 40S2400:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-40S24...&s=electronics

my question would be:
all the american models are also represented in europe (be it under a different name), so will this model appear also here in the near future?
i truelly hope someone can help.
thanks again for the constructive information.

230556

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Maybe this should be in a new thread for the "New New Sony S Series"... but I've just taken delivery of a 32S2530, and very nice it is too.

Yes, it has LCC - you can make everything more lurid than life (if you really want to). DVD playback from my PC via RGB is absolutely superb, and Freeview performance is passable within the (very constraining) limits of the MPEG on-air coding. Haven't got any other sources, though I'm shortly going to get a HDMI/upscaler-equipped DVD player. I think I may have to talk to Sky before long about HD, because the Freeview performance really isn't great, especially for sports and nature programming. But that says more about the old MPEG coding than about this television - decent LCD panels don't obscure the artefacts as well as a CRT (but you all knew that, right).

Found the settings tips in this thread very useful, even though they refer to the previous model. Thank you.

cheers,
g

geekon

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I think the 2500 series has its own thread anyway

NX3

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by crisp1
Do you use the same settings for the in-built freeview??
Yes I do I use the same settings for all sources namely, SKY, Freeview, 360 and DVD. Although I rarely use freeview as I already have SKy Tv.

bbeer

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

can someone please post recommended picture mode settings for sky hd via the hdmi

anyone who has the KDL-26S2010....or similar sony bravia tv with the similar settings

or maybe someone's posted their hd settings already..if someone knows where could they direct me to that

or does anyone have any tips or advice on the settings to best experience hd...and to get the most out of it....or how NOT to have it

there was a delay in the installation but having it installed very soon now

(i posted this question earlier on but i guess no one saw it...it was among a few other questions as well in the post...this is more specific now)

Gibrasky

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I read somewhere in this thread about settings, there's one set in a post above on this page and there was also this link a few pages back (sorry I can't remember who posted it, so thanks whoever you are) here's ther link anyway:

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthrea...&&#post7791570

ritzie

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Well I've have had my KDL-26S2020 for a week now and must say I'm very pleased. Ordered it from my local Sony dealer here in Menorca at a price of 999€ (no special discounts here I'm afraid ). Asked for it to be unpacked and demonstrated so that I could check for dead or stuck pixels (there were none ). My request surprised the manager, who stated that his Spanish customers had never asked to do that.

Anyway, I've settled on the following settings for Sky and terrestrial digital TV:

Power Saving = Low
Light Sensor = On
Backlight = 4
Contrast = 85
Brightness = 52
Colour = 55
Colort Temp = Neutral
Sharpness = 12
Noise Reduction = Off

Black Corrector = Off
Contrast Enhancer = Off
Gamma = Low
Clear white = Off
Live Colour = Low
Mpeg Noise Reduction = Off

Drive and Background colours were then set up as follows:

- Firstly, note down your colour setting and then set the slider to minimum i.e. no colour.
- Display a stationary picture containing a good range of greyscale, from black to peak white.
- Using the remote controller keys, enter the Service Menu by pressing TV standby OFF, I+, 5, Vol Up, TV standby ON in sequence.
- Do NOT touch anything other than the Drive and Background settings. Note down their factory default settings before changing them. My own factory defaults were:
R_Drive = 269
G_Drive = 256
B_Drive = 236
R_Bkg = 511
G_Bkg = 512
B_Bkg = 513

- Adjust the R_Drive, G_Drive & B_Drive for purest peak whites and light greys. Aim for cool peak whites approximating to Illumance D (very slight blue'ish/green tint).
- Adjust the R_Bkg, G_Bkg & B_Bkg for purest blacks and dark greys. Again, aim for a very slight blue'ish/green tint.
- Alternate between the Drive and Background settings until you achieve a uniform greyscale. Do not use too high a setting on any one of the colours (best to reduce one or both of the other two colours instead). My final settings were:
R_Drive = 253
G_Drive = 256
B_Drive = 226
R_Bkg = 501
G_Bkg = 502
B_Bkg = 503

- Exit the Service Menu by switching to TV standby OFF then back ON again, enter the Picture Menu and reset the Colour control to the figure noted down previously. Readjust Brightness and Contrast slightly if need be.

I must emphasise that people perceive colours differently and my settings may not suite your own taste.

Regards

Menorcaman

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

thanks guys...helpful info there

Gibrasky

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Good info menorcaman, but the only thing is I heard there was no way of getting into the service menu on the s series, just something I heard. Trying your suggestion to access it still did'nt work though, am I doing something wrong?

ritzie

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by ritzie
Good info menorcaman, but the only thing is I heard there was no way of getting into the service menu on the s series, just something I heard. Trying your suggestion to access it still did'nt work though, am I doing something wrong?
Hi ritzie,

There is no doubt that you can enter the S series' Service Menu using the sequence of remote contoller key presses posted above. Note. Where it says Power Off or Power On I meant use the TV standby ON/OFF button on the remote, not the main Power On button on the top of the set.

I've amended my post accordingly.

Regards

Menorcaman

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

btw menorca is your sky - sky hd? or sky plus/digital?

Gibrasky

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

If anyone is interested i can show you the difference between S series and V series picture.



The first Samsung you see has CCFL backlight (producing mainly white light) like the S series , the second one has WCG-CCFL like the V series (producing white light with a tint of yellow). As you can see the colors are more vivid but a bit unrealistic.

Yannis

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

hi all,

After much deliberating I have bought a Sony KDL32S2030. I must say it is a very nice looking unit and I got a great price from a store on tottenham court road and took it home in a taxi for around the same money as a saturday delivery!

A couple of questions:

1. Should I set my DVD player (Sami DVD-HD850) to output 720p or 1080i?
2. Should the audio ouput setting on the DVD be set to Dolby Digital/DTS or PCM(2 Channel)?

thanks,
helix

helix

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Does anybody have any views on the KDL46S2010? I've looked everywhere for reviews or any comments by members and have pretty much drawn a blank.

I've found this set for about ?1550 with a standard 1 year warranty or for ?1755 with a 5 year warranty. It seems to me to be a fantastic deal - I've seen the TV in the flesh (Comets are selling it for ?2199 in the shop or ?1895ish on line with just a 1 year warranty) and have been very impressed. In a AV specialist shop it was next to a 46" V range set and I nor the sales advisor could see a difference worth the extra ?300.

Is it any good?
Is there a better value large screen LCD?

Any other information will be gratefully received - thanks in anticipation

Gary

gcjohnson

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi there

I`ve got a 26s2010 and am very pleased with it.

However, when I press the screen format button on the remote it just says "test" in the bottom left corner of the screen.

Also, the freeze button has no effect, everything was working fine up until recently. Has anyone ever heard of this happening?

Any help is much appreciated!

Jodrell

jodrell

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi.
Since yesterday I got the Sony KDL-32S2000. I am somehow unhappy with it. I entered the service menu and it looks very different from the one that Lyris was posting on his web page. After entering several times now I am not able to access this menu at all. Anyone any thoughts about this?

Here are all the service menu pages I was able to access.

Looking forward for your input.

majorusa

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi,

I have just aquired a 40s2010 myself. When I use the MS HD VGA cable (set to output at 1360x768) I get slight color banding at the very edge of the screen. However when I use the component cable (at either 720p or 1080i) I don't get this.
Empire direct told me to ring sony due to it being a possible compaitability issue and the customer service people at Sony told me that I should stick to using the component leads rather than the VGA one as they is a slight incompaitability between the Xbox360 VGA output and what the Sony can display.
Has anyone else encountered this or heard of it? Should I try replacing the vga lead, push for a replacement screen or just stick to the component leads?

Thanks,

PMBagpuss

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by majorusa
Hi.
Since yesterday I got the Sony KDL-32S2000. I am somehow unhappy with it. I entered the service menu and it looks very different from the one that Lyris was posting on his web page. After entering several times now I am not able to access this menu at all. Anyone any thoughts about this?

Here are all the service menu pages I was able to access.

Looking forward for your input.
No, that's correct. As I said on the page over at my site, these were valid only for the old models. The new ones are entirely different inside.

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I discovered that I was able to access the service menu but this is different from the analog to digital. It has the same apparence but there are two separate sets of data.

majorusa

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

After owning for a couple of days a LG 32LX2R who had motion issues on PAL AV, I decided to go for Bravia KDL-32S2000. I read all the reviews I could find, and all the posts I could get. It was an informed decision you might say. Was it? Unfortunately, the reviews were showing a nicer image of this TV set. What the S series is? Just an older trinitron chassis equiping a new LCD panel. I will explain myself imediately:
This set was purchased to replace in fact my old 29" Sony Trinitron. I discovered in the Bravia a similar service menu with the same controls as for the trinitron. Also, there is no automatic white balance as I could find in the service menu of the LG or other controls helping creating a better image. I do not contest the existence of the Bravia engine and the BBE and all the other gizmos but the bottom line is that Sony did not evolve to much on the facilities of the TV. Compared to the LG32LX2R this is a Stone Age TV with no PIP, PAP, PAT, no image position tweaks on HDMI, limited PC connectivity, etc. Unfortunately, is a half baked product with a good marketing.
All the reviews were stating what good image this set is showing. In this department, this Bravia, that now I unfortunately own, has nothing to write home about. Out of the box the image is dreadful. The red is the Marlboro red and not the clear red. It is red plus a tint of blue. After several hours of tweaking my wife, who does not know and does not care about the TV sets, enterig the room was teling me: "that picture is horible". It was 720p Ice Age on an 3890 upscaling DVD player - Pioneer 490V. The child's face was all purple and all the collors were lifeless-bluish-purplish. The picture color was on neutral. As for the SD TV simply rubbish.
A harsh decision had to be taken: Service Menu color tweaking. I purchased the service manual of this TV set just to discover that the white balance is all manual and is depending on the eye of the operator. Sony hi-tech!
I started to tweak the collors and after one day of pain I finally managed to give a decent look to this "premium brand" TV. All this effort was for the good since I discovered two flaws of the set: not uniform back-lighting and a strange behavior of the VGA whan playing PAL movies. Attached pictures are showing what I am talking about.
And what about motion blur? It is plenty! In a FNAC tests this panel that Sony was advertising as 8ms g-g was showing 20ms!
And to not forget: the back-lighting adjustment that was presented as a superb feature for this set. On my is at 8 and it is not moving to a lower position. In the service manual all the tweakings are made with this setting to the max. Also the contrast is to be to the max. Why? Should you dim them, the colors are changing in dramatic pace from nice to dull.
What about the sound? It is Ok. In fact is the only Ok thing with this set.
Therefore my advice as a new proud Sony Bravia S series owner is to stay away from this set. For this money you may buy a cheaper and better TV set or just invest them into the stock market. You will gain more if you do so.

P.S. Sorry should my English is not the best. It is not my native language.

majorusa

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

sorry to read you unhappy with the tv. I bought the 32S a while back and am well pleased. good tv for fair sum paid

I did have one query as i noticed it last night whilst playing wind waker on my cube via component. Was inside sme submarine and the screen was mostly black with minmal lighting. I could make out lots of vertical lines running across the screen. I was playing in the dark so never noticed these before. The tv is fine as far as i aware, so can anyone explain what these lines are?

im running the cube in 480p

tia

KTroopA

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by majorusa
After owning for a couple of days a LG 32LX2R who had motion issues on PAL AV, I decided to go for Bravia KDL-32S2000. I read all the reviews I could find, and all the posts I could get. It was an informed decision you might say. Was it? Unfortunately, the reviews were showing a nicer image of this TV set. What the S series is? Just an older trinitron chassis equiping a new LCD panel. I will explain myself imediately:
This set was purchased to replace in fact my old 29" Sony Trinitron. I discovered in the Bravia a similar service menu with the same controls as for the trinitron. Also, there is no automatic white balance as I could find in the service menu of the LG or other controls helping creating a better image. I do not contest the existence of the Bravia engine and the BBE and all the other gizmos but the bottom line is that Sony did not evolve to much on the facilities of the TV. Compared to the LG32LX2R this is a Stone Age TV with no PIP, PAP, PAT, no image position tweaks on HDMI, limited PC connectivity, etc. Unfortunately, is a half baked product with a good marketing.
All the reviews were stating what good image this set is showing. In this department, this Bravia, that now I unfortunately own, has nothing to write home about. Out of the box the image is dreadful. The red is the Marlboro red and not the clear red. It is red plus a tint of blue. After several hours of tweaking my wife, who does not know and does not care about the TV sets, enterig the room was teling me: "that picture is horible". It was 720p Ice Age on an upscaling DVD player - Pioneer 490V. The child's face was all purple and all the collors were lifeless-bluish-purplish. The picture color was on neutral. As for the SD TV simply rubbish.
A harsh decision had to be taken: Service Menu color tweaking. I purchased the service manual of this TV set just to discover that the white balance is all manual and is depending on the eye of the operator. Sony hi-tech!
I started to tweak the collors and after one day of pain I finally managed to give a decent look to this "premium brand" TV. All this effort was for the good since I discovered two flaws of the set: not uniform back-lighting and a strange behavior of the VGA whan playing PAL movies. Attached pictures are showing what I am talking about.
And what about motion blur? It is plenty! In a FNAC tests this panel that Sony was advertising as 8ms g-g was showing 20ms!
And to n 3890 ot forget: the back-lighting adjustment that was presented as a superb feature for this set. On my is at 8 and it is not moving to a lower position. In the service manual all the tweakings are made with this setting to the max. Also the contrast is to be to the max. Why? Should you dim them, the colors are changing in dramatic pace from nice to dull.
What about the sound? It is Ok. In fact is the only Ok thing with this set.
Therefore my advice as a new proud Sony Bravia S series owner is to stay away from this set. For this money you may buy a cheaper and better TV set or just invest them into the stock market. You will gain more if you do so.

P.S. Sorry should my English is not the best. It is not my native language.
I suspect you would find a lot more problems with other LCD sets too.
It sounds as if you are a bit of a perfectionist, so you may be better looking at more expensive Sony sets that have a much broader range of controls. At the end of the day, the S is the bottom of the Sony range, although I do believe it's better than any competing TV.

mark800

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by majorusa
After owning for a couple of days a LG 32LX2R who had motion issues on PAL AV, I decided to go for Bravia KDL-32S2000. I read all the reviews I could find, and all the posts I could get. It was an informed decision you might say. Was it? Unfortunately, the reviews were showing a nicer image of this TV set. What the S series is? Just an older trinitron chassis equiping a new LCD panel. I will explain myself imediately:
This set was purchased to replace in fact my old 29" Sony Trinitron...
No offence but S series has the exact same panel and image processing with V series which recently got an EISA award so i believe that you are exaggerating.

Yannis

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
And to not forget: the back-lighting adjustment that was presented as a superb feature for this set. On my is at 8 and it is not moving to a lower position.
Are you saying the number stays at 8 and won't go any lower?

That coupled with your picture makes me pretty sure your TV is faulty.

Quote:
In the service manual all the tweakings are made with this setting to the max. Also the contrast is to be to the max. Why?
The service manual says that engineers should put the TV at these settings before they calibrate the Analog to Digital converter part of the TV using their measuring equipment. It's just so that all of the TVs are set up the same way and is absolutely not a recommendation of what consumers should do.

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Sorry, it is my language. I am keeping the back-lighting adjustment to 8 because lower adjustment makes the colours go dull and lifeless. The backlighting can be tweaked all the scale.

My remark concerning the service menu adjustments was related to the fact that lovering contrast and back-lighting the quality of the picture on my set is decreasing dramatically.

Thanks anyhow for your explanations.

majorusa

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Can anyone please give a setting they reckon is a good start on setup for:

Sky (Scart Standard not HD)
xbox 360 (HD Component)
Analogue (Good old aeriel)
Dvd ( Quality scart+ S Video 2 x Dvd players)

I have been using settings from your kind selfs in this thread + messing around a bit myself but not quite their running out of ideas and patience
Cheers
Phooey

phooeyman

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

And it looks ok for video at 1280x720 with HDMI-DVI cable e.g overscan not really bad? (Not bothered about using for desktop apps)

bodgerx

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Can anyone reccomend a wall mount for the 40" version? As cheap as possible please...

Rennyboy

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi guys,

Can i just use a normal Y splitter into the back of my PC, and run it into my LCD Sony KDL-32S2010 and my current Dell screen. I presume the below is good enough. Its a VGA input? there is also another PC input below this on the back,a small round connection-is it required?

http://www.nextag.co.uk/Belkin-Y-spl...uk/prices-html

Then get an extension as well

Thanks!

Carl Z

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

http://www.nextag.co.uk/y-splitter-m...0--search-html

Try that link instead

thanks

Carl Z

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Anyone know anything about the KDL-26U2000U?

It seems to have replaced the 26S2010.

chocky909

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I don't think it's intended as a replacement, no - it's slightly different.

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I have just got my money back from buying a 37wlt58, due to the noise issue.
so I am now looking for a V good replacment37 to 40 inch LCD.
I have read alot of the forum and like the look of the SONY 40 inch

But what series is the best and why I know its the X but I can't afford it!!

What are the diferences between the V & S and what is the best for purchase, I will use the unit for Freeview, Playstation and watching DVD's

Any help would be great

Koala

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by chocky909
Anyone know anything about the KDL-26U2000U?

It seems to have replaced the 26S2010.
Think its a new entry level model intended for supper markets etc, comes in below the S.

Koala

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

ummm,just measuring up my 32S2010-im gettin mounting holes at 200mm width and 150mm height-so i guess ill need an adapter plate and this is not std VESA fitting?

thanks

Carl Z

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by IanM
I'm thinking of getting the 26s2010 and was wondering if anyone could tell me what sort of wall mount it is compatible with. Does it fit Vesa 100, 200, or just Sony's own proprietary mount?

Cheers,
Ian
Hope this is not too late for you?
I have just bought a wall mount & adapter plate. Vogel's EFA6875 adapter is required a the fixings on the rear are not Vesa compliant. The Wall mount is a Vogel's EFW6245. I will be fitting mine this weekend.

Jimlad

Jimlad

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimlad
Hope this is not too late for you?
I have just bought a wall mount & adapter plate. Vogel's EFA6875 adapter is required a the fixings on the rear are not Vesa compliant. The Wall mount is a Vogel's EFW6245. I will be fitting mine this weekend.

Jimlad
Hi Jimlad

This is the exact combination of mount and adapter plate I used for my 26S2010. It's a good quality mount, but beware, there is very limited space for getting connectors in the LCD as the adapter plate gets in the way.

I managed to get the HDMI and VGA cable in, and only certain scart connectors will go in. None of my IXOS or QED scarts went in. I had no luck with component connectors at all.

Apparently, there are some spacers that go between the adapter plate and the LCD which may give you a little more space. I haven't tried the spacers yet but I recommend you use them if you want to have the flexibility of using different connections.

Hope this helps. Let us know how you get on.

Milanlad

milanl 3890 ad

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Hi milanlad,
Thanks for the info. I don't expect the same problem as mine is mounted in our kitchen & is secondary to our main set which I am hoping to update late this year.

Jimlad

Jimlad

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Just received my 26 inch Bravia from RGBDirect. Opened the box, lifted it out to find that it has a huge crack on the right hand corner. Going to have to call them now to get a replacement.

jackhjharding

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Question about the S2000 series' lack of Live Color Creation processing (the main advantage of the V)

Firstly is this something that can be turned on/off on the V? (I would imagine so)

Secondly - I'm planning to buy the cheaper S series primarily for use as a gaming screen and wondered if there was much difference between the V and S's ability to display a signal from a console - 360/ps3. Would the live color tech make much of a difference to a game source?

Pallaris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I have question about this set that I really need answered, does it save analogue Teletext subpages and allow you to select and read them at will?

I can find no reference to this small but import feature in any of the literature.

Haze

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

So are these getting a reduction?

acrebo

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Read this thread for reduction info

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=365116

NX3

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Don't believe it. I seriously doubt the legitimacy of his 'information'. The price of the 26S2010U I had my eye on actually went UP on Monday.

chocky909

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I put up a video showing the ghosting I experience (shows Prey demo through VGA at 1360x768). Especially look at the statues.


lapino

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by lapino
I put up a video showing the ghosting I experience (shows Prey demo through VGA at 1360x768). Especially look at the statues.

I didn't find this good enough quality to see the ghosting I'm afraid

Anyway, should have mine by this time next week, so will comment away

mclh

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I couldn't see any motion blur from the video myself, but I 100% believe you it's there - I'm assuming it's on the dark areas?

Normal for LCD I'm afraid, especially non-SPVA panels (which are only made in 32" and bigger).

You should see my LCD WEGA from 2004 whenever there's something black, red or white - yikes

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

i can see the motion blur. it's on my 32v2000 too.

And the sony is supposed to be the best.... thank god i didn't buy another brand.

sypack

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by sypack
i can see the motion blur. it's on my 32v2000 too.

And the sony is supposed to be the best.... thank god i didn't buy another brand.
Motion blur is a sad fact of all LCDs but I think you'll find Panasonic and Philips (Clear LCD) are up their with Sony in terms of handling. I've just got the 32V2000 and so far I'm very pleased with it. The blur I used to get on Oblivion on the ground and walls with the Tosh 32WLT66 is just not there. I'm not saying there's no blur on the Sony, it's just nowhere near as bad.

Anjou

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

I seem to find that all of the brands are pretty much the same for LCD panel lag. It's the video processing and tweaks that make the Sonys so good in my opinion.

Lyris

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Lyris

Been enjoying your reviews on the web. Looking for a 26" set. I see you reviewed the JVC DX7. Any chance of an S26 review? I'd buy a V26 like a shot if Sony made one...

Looking at the release schedules it looks like 26 inchers are being more or less being phased out. The next ranges from Toshiba, JVC, Hitachi don't feature 26" at all. I think this is a shame. It's a very convenient size for smaller rooms.

Anyway, if someone could persuade me the S series is as good as the V (with the exception of no wide colour gamut and narrower viewing angle) I'd go get me one. It's just motion handling I'm concerned about really.

Ramspeed

The New Sony S Series Thread - KDL26/32/40S2010U

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramspeed
Lyris

Been enjoying your reviews on the web. Looking for a 26" set. I see you reviewed the JVC DX7. Any chance of an S26 review? I'd buy a V26 like a shot if Sony made one...

Looking at the release schedules it looks like 26 inchers are being more or less being phased out. The next ranges from Toshiba, JVC, Hitachi don't feature 26" at all. I think this is a shame. It's a very convenient size for smaller rooms.

Anyway, if someone could persuade me the S series is as good as the V (with the exception of no wide colour gamut and narrower viewing angle) I'd go get me one. It's just motion handling I'm concerned about really.
Well being over the moon with my 32v2000 my 79 year old mother finally decided that she wanted an new TV too and in her words in the shop "The 26" Sony hasn't got as much of that gaudy silver paint on it as the Panasonic -I'll have the Sony 26s2010 please".

So ?850 lighter we were off out of the shop with a nice big box and home to her place.

Upacking and setting up the S262010 is an absoutely identical experience to that of the bigger V series - same menus as the V - in fact I couldn't see any differences in the options at all. You still get the option to dim the back light all the way down to a minimum setting - in fact separate settings for all the inputs - absolutely identical in every way.

So what's the picture like? It is actually very good, no juddering that I could see at all. My mother's TV aerial is ancient and yet the TV still found a stack of channels on Freeview and the expected 6 for Analogue (she lives near Oxford and they seem to get an extra one). Maybe with a better aerial the PQ would be marginally better.

On a cheap Sony DVD player connected by Scart the PQ was excellent. I'd bought the BBC's Life of Plants DVD for Christmas and the 'insect' chapter looked exquisite.

I hooked up her Sony VCR and that worked well - though the high quality screen really showed up the limitations from an PQ point of view.

The only misgiving I have is that the 32v2000 is capable of producing absolutely perfect skin tone colours and somehow I couldn't find the perfect settings for this on the 26" Sony.

I'm sure my mother will be very happy though and I'm just very, very picky!

cosmicblue

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Quote:
Upacking and setting up the S262010 is an absoutely identical experience to that of the bigger V series - same menus as the V - in fact I couldn't see any differences in the options at all.
Yeah, they're almost exactly the same TV. The different backlight (and maybe different series of panel - not sure) mean that the "Colour Space: Wide" option isn't there on the S-Series.

I think they're identical other than that. They seem to use the same video processor and analogue input board.

Lyris

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