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Updated: 2008-05-16 15:40:25 (32767)
Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

***Index of Official 2005 Sony KDSR-50/60XBR1 Owner's Thread provided by UxiSXRD.***


***Owner's Threads***


Complaint-Free 50/60" XBR1 KDS50XBR1 & KDS60XBR1
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=776484
50/60" XBR1 KDS50XBR1 & KDS60XBR1
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=584936
60/70" XBR2 KDS60XBR2 & KDS70XBR2
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=730418
50/55/60" A2000 KDS50A2000, KDS55A2000, & KDS60A2000
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=701578
Qualia 006 (70" SXRD)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=498008


***Owner's Tweaks Threads:***


XBR1
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...highlight=sxrd
XBR2:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=739074
A2000:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=702606


***SXRD Rumors Threads***


2006 SXRD speculation Thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=653327
70" non-qualia Rumors Thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=583673
Post XBR1 SXRD Rumors Thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=632350
Original (post Qualia) SXRD Rumor thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=545987




***Stands ***

XBR2
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=710738




***Gaming with the SXRD***

PlayStation3 and the 50/60 XBR1 thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=754256

Best 2006 1080p ~60" TV for Console Video Games (SXRD Game Mode)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=684899




***UNIFORMITY ISSUES***


Green Blob at startup poll:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=750642
50" Green Blob common?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=683422


umr on the "green blob":
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7222944
Quote:
Originally Posted by umr
What I am saying is that the green blob issue is blown WAY out of proportion. I have not seen a green blob "issue" as generally described in this thread with these sets. Color uniformity problems exist with all technologies except DLP. If you want a perfectly uniform display buy DLP. However, SXRD is a perfectly viable display technology. It is just not perfect like every other product on the market.
<snip>
SXRD has color uniformity issues because it uses polarizers. All polarizer based displays will have some uniformity issues because polarizer alignment is not perfect. Some shift in colors may also occur because of small movements in the polarizer as the display warms up.

Plasma, LCD and CRT displays also have color uniformity problems that appear very similar to SXRD in practice.
and just a bit further down:

Quote:
Originally Posted by umr
A green blob in the middle can be calibrated out of the set.
<snip>
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlPaul
Via the service menu and still end up with ~6500K?

Certainly. If it is truly green it is not D65. That is the point. The color error can be shifted around the display or to another color.
Dr Raymond Soneira on the "Green Blob Effect"
http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...&&#post7157186

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond Soneira
Also a cute nameÖ The term was coined to describe a temperature and time-dependent color and intensity non-uniformity noticed in some Sony SXRD (LCoS) HDTVs. This effect appears to some degree in every monitor and projector of every make and model, and in every type of display technology. It does appear to be more of an issue with these Sonys. Iíll also explain why itís more likely to be seen as a green or purple effect.

All monitors and projectors take at least half an hour to reach an equilibrium temperature from a ?cold start.? I never adjust, test, or evaluate displays unless they have warmed up for at least an hour. The best manufacturers will wait to align and calibrate their units at the factory until after the units have gone through an initial ?break-in? period and also reached an equilibrium temperature with the cabinet fully assembled and closed. Some manufacturers may calibrate at 50% warm-up in order to minimize the peak deviation, which minimizes the likelihood that people will notice the effect, but youíll get the best long-term picture quality if itís done at 100% warm-up. This appears to be what Sony is doing (to their credit).



One member's solution:

Sony Corporate phone number is not listed. Its 1-858-942-2400. You'll need
to ask to speak to someone in the National Customer Relations department.
This is apparently the same place you end up at after being escalated from
tech support level 2.

P.S. Here is what I got from Sony about the OBs...

The earlier production were using the following part numbers:
A-1148-155-A (50? set)
A-1127-174-A (60? set)

The later production uses the following optical block part numbers.
A-1168-495-A (50? set)
A-1168-494-A (60? set)




***VARIOUS***

XBR1 Deinterlacing: Does the XBR1 "bob & weave?"
http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...&&#post6602874

SXRD Versus Plasma:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=715384

XBR1 Model/Chassis code and Date:

Chassis model number, place, and date of manufacture are on a sticker on the back of the set.
<insert pic>

XBR1 Base Dimensions:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=719508

I measured 37" across, left to right, from the front, 27" across on the
back, with 18" in between the front and rear center points. The current
stand I have is maybe 40 in the front, 30 in the back and 20 deep, so the
XBR1 fits perfect - and in fact enhances the "floating effect" that the
chassis/speakers give the screen itself.


Service Menu:
Be VERY CAREFUL in the Service Menu. Enter at your own Risk!

[DISPLAY] + [5] + [VOL+] + [POWER]

check hours on lamp:

Starting with TV turned on - press Power, Display, 5, Vol+, Power.
That will get you into the SM.
Press Jump three times to get you to the 3rd menu area ("PANEL NVM OK").
Press 2 or 5 a bunch of times to get to category 20 TIMER. You should see
something like 0 LMP 100, which I think means you have used 100 hours on the
lamp.
1 and 4 change sub-categories in the menu. Moves up and down options.
2 and 5 change sections
jump key switches between different menu systems

Mute then Enter commits any changed values. Be careful with this.
Press Power to exit the SM and turn the TV off.

0 then enter reverts to previous settings (couple seconds, screen may go
black)




LAMP

Part# 11680720

UHP100W/120W-R70
also known as:
UHP 100W 120W Lamp

Specifications:

Manufacturer: Philips Lighting
Max Lamp Power: 120 Watts
Max Lamp Current: 2.0 Amps
Max Lamp Operating Voltage: 65 Volts
Ignition Voltage: 5 KV
Bulb Finish: Hard Dichroic Cold Mirror
Bulb Type: PAR-22 Borosilicate with front glass
Reflector Size: Square 65x70mm
Arc Gap: 1.0 mm
Electrodes: Solid tungsten
Luminous Flux: 6000 lm at 100W
7000 lm at 120W
Luminous Efficacy: 58 lm/W
Colour Temperature & CRI: CCT : 7600K CRI : Ra 57
Chromaticity Co-ordinates: CCx : 0.298 CCy : 0.311
Rated Life: 8000 hours at 100 W
6000 hours at 120 W
Factory: Turnhout, Belgium

UHP:

Most projectors of today use Ultra High Pressure (UHP) lamps invented by
Philips. These use an arc in a pure mercury vapor under high pressure.

UHP lamps operate at pressures above 200 atmospheres or 3,000 pounds per
square inch.

A 100 watt UHP lamp in a projector can deliver more light to the screen than
a 250 watt metal halide lamp.



http://www.ercservice.com/lamps/phil..._120W-R70.html



***REVIEWS***


XBR1:

Ultimate AV: 60XBR1 review




Sound & Vision: 50XBR1 review
CNET: 60XBR1 review
A CRT Zealot's Review


XBR2:

Ultimate AV: 60XBR2 review



CNET's 60XBR2

umr on the XBR2:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8792988



***Sony extends limited warranty (parts and labor) in the US for KDS-R50XBR1 and KDS-R60XBR1 until October 31, 2008 regardless of purchase date.

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/new...R1&news_id=185

This information was originally posted by member jfh3 and was brought to my attention by member cctvtech.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

***My original post starting this thread.***


My KDS-R60XBR1 has arrived...

I don't have a "report" perse for all of you, rather just the opinions of one darn happy consumer. I'm going to include a link to an HTML page with all the thumbnails of pics I've taken. Please no critiquing of the photography, I know I'm horrible at taking pictures, just try to realize if there is any apparent fault with the pictures it is with my skills as a lousy photographer not the set.

HDTV on this set is absolutely stunning as far as I'm concerned. I watched about an hour of "The Italian Job" and was amazed over and over again with how good the picture was. I watched part of "The Lord of the Rings: Two Towers" on a progressive scan DVD player and was surprised at how good a DVD can still look when given the proper equipment. I may have to go back and watch a lot of my DVD's over again just to see what I missed previously. Standard definition cable was very watchable but wasn't anything special by a long shot. There is only so much processing can do and you know what they say, Sh*t in sh*t out. That pretty much covers standard definition. I hooked up my PS2 briefly (don't have component cables for it only composite) and again it was very usable just nothing special. I'll bet Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 will look out of this world on this set though.

My cable box is hooked up through HDMI (HDMI to HDMI) for anyone who wants to know. Also the screen on this set is matte not shiny.

I'm a computer geek but not a TV geek so I don't know exactly what else to tell everyone else. The only other piece of information I can give is that I'm SO very happy I purchased this set. I have not seen a set to date (Qualia 006 excluded) that had a better picture, in my mind. Of course I would be bias towards this set as it's what I've chosen. My final verdict is that I'm 100% satisfied with it at the present time. If there was one thing I could change about the set, it would be to have removable side speakers. The speakers are a small price to pay for an otherwise outstanding set.

I hope everyone enjoys. I'll try to answer questions in due time. But for now, back to the TV.



Edited to remove link.

Answers: Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread ( AVS Forum Rear Projection Units )
Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by UxiSXRD
It's all a matter of perspective. 70 in one month from one tech in a big city like Chicago could be quite small beans if they sold thousands since last October...
Yes, but people who don't visit this forum are oblivious to this issue. I have 4 of my other friends who I helped purchase their XBR1's who have absoloutely no clue to what to look for!! They are still running the TV on the "Torch" mode and I am reluctant to recommend a different setting now that their cornea's have got used to the picture feel .

OTOH, I do not want to tell them either that their TV has a problem as my Sony Shareholder brain takes over. Up until now Sony has taken 1 step forward and 2 steps backwards in my case. If this continues, I may have to sell my shares and move on.........

plasmabuyer

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeAtkinson
Attached are some pics of the screen discoloration (green blob) that has appeared in my set over the last couple weeks. They are unaltered aside from reducing them to 800x600. On my laptop LCD, they look pretty close to what my eye actually sees when looking at the screen. One pic is the memory stick screen, the other is a 50IRE pattern from the Avia DVD. The set had been on for at least 3 hours at the time taken.

In the 50IRE pic, I can detect a slight residual 4:3 image; it is not as pronounced in person. I hadn't noticed it until looking at the picture. In a quick test, it was noticeable for a second or so after switching from 4:3 to 16:9. After that, I have to look for it to see it. I doubt it would ever be visible on anything but a grey field.
Wow! I've been reading this thread since the beginning and I have never seen a green blob like this one. You have a REAL problem. Good luck.

Stan54

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanBuck
Sounds like the green blob for sure. I would call Sony, or CC for service. Since you are still in the factory warranty period you might get better response from Sony than CC.

Just got off the phone with the CC service rep. Looks like im setup for Oct 25 for the service repair.

I noticed that others mentioned the OB as being the issue. Sorry I'm a noob and do not know what OB stands for xxxx board?

When I receive the courtesy call from the Service Dept on Oct 25, should I mention the OB and the re-designed OB? Sounds like they would be wasting theirs and my time if they came out without the new OB?

The picture had been fantastic especially after a few of the tweaks from lurking here. Now, I feel the pain others have with this set. Lets hope they get it resolved.

Cheers,

Humanoid1

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Humanoid1
Just got off the phone with the CC service rep. Looks like im setup for Oct 25 for the service repair.

I noticed that others mentioned the OB as being the issue. Sorry I'm a noob and do not know what OB stands for xxxx board?

When I receive the courtesy call from the Service Dept on Oct 25, should I mention the OB and the re-designed OB? Sounds like they would be wasting theirs and my time if they came out without the new OB?

The picture had been fantastic especially after a few of the tweaks from lurking here. Now, I feel the pain others have with this set. Lets hope they get it resolved.

Cheers,
OB means optical block.

SteveGrillo

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Humanoid1
Just got off the phone with the CC service rep. Looks like im setup for Oct 25 for the service repair.

I noticed that others mentioned the OB as being the issue. Sorry I'm a noob and do not know what OB stands for xxxx board?

When I receive the courtesy call from the Service Dept on Oct 25, should I mention the OB and the re-designed OB? Sounds like they would be wasting theirs and my time if they came out without the new OB?

The picture had been fantastic especially after a few of the tweaks from lurking here. Now, I feel the pain others have with this set. Lets hope they get it resolved.

Cheers,
OB means Optical Block which is where the SXRD panels reside in the set. I would imagine by this point, the only OB's being used will be the 'new and improved' versions. They probably won't come with an OB on hand, and rather will want to verify your issue, then order one and install it later. Good luck on it.

AlanBuck

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Just got my 50" XBR1 professionally calibrated by our "friend" from Texas during his recent Northern California swing.

My November 2005 set has only has mild start-up green blob and I think I'd self calibrated it to the high 80% range. Having the Pro in to set the color temp, gama, greyscale, etc proved to ME that it was WELL worth it.

The one thing I wanted was unbocked blacks and we got that nicely done. I also learned something about the user accessible settings that I'd not known relative to older 8bit code vs new 10bit stuff. Nice to work with a guy who knows what the history of the platform is. Made nice difference!

The calibration, along with my new S3 Tivo, made my HD viewing spectacular, even more so than from the tuner in the XBR that I'd used before getting the S3.

There are successes out here!

TBoyd

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

What is the best calibration CD people are using for their XBR1? I will not pay for a ISF, but I wanted to do something other than mess blindly with the countless settings in then menu including the advanced settings.

bourmb

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by stewa
Make sure you understand the wording of Sony's warranty. Their extended warranty starts from your date of purchase. I just bought the 3year warranty. I purchased my 60xbr1 January 27, 2006. My three year extended warranty starts January 27, 2006 and runs until January 26, 2009. So when they say 3, you really are getting two additional years. Just wanted to make sure you realized that.
Many people on this thread have expressed the "peace of mind" that they were experiencing during the first year of ownership due to their purchase of the extended warranty. The peace of mind that they were experiencing during the first year is misplaced. The extended warranty doesn't kick in until the end of the first year and a 3 year extended warranty is actually a 2 year warranty and it will only EVER apply if you continue to own THAT set after the first year. You start all over again when you have a different set. ............. Hint: Wait 11 months before buying an extended warranty (if even then). A person with sufficient funds to self-insure or a gnawing desire to frequently update shouldn't buy warranties anyway.

Stan54

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by weekiwacheefl
Re's BULBS... they will ONLY cover 1 bulb during the first year on the SXRD. If the bulb blows after 1 year and 1 day - it's on the consumer. The EW does not cover ANY bulbs, period, as they are considered a consumable item and can be installed by the owner of the unit. This is different from Samsung and the huge electronic hell hole's warranty. Sammy's bulbs are about $250... the sony rep could not tell me how much they are for the SXRD. Anyone? And are they easy to install?

Ok, all you experts out there.... AM I making the right decision with the SXRD?

Thanks in advance for any and all input...

Donna
Check sony.com website for the bulb price. IIRC it is $295. Very easy to replace, judging by the instructions in the owner's manual.

AnotherDoug

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

You can get the buld from places like PartsExpress for $250 or so. Also, Mack has warranties for this set, 3 year bulb and 4 year set (totals) for around $300 (from TapeWorks Texas, deal on the special deals thread).

Keith

dropper

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Punisher,

I have a Feb build, S019120***. I believe the consensus was that if you have a S019116*** or above you've got a Feb build or above. I though I was going to get a March build when I saw the number on the box, but it must have been built in late Feb. Sorry to hear about your delivery, from your description the TV is nowhere near acceptable. Hopefully you'll be satisfied with the next.

Jim

JJVec

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by JJVec
Punisher,

I have a Feb build, S019120***. I believe the consensus was that if you have a S019116*** or above you've got a Feb build or above. I though I was going to get a March build when I saw the number on the box, but it must have been built in late Feb. Sorry to hear about your delivery, from your description the TV is nowhere near acceptable. Hopefully you'll be satisfied with the next.

Jim

Thanks for the help and support Jim! The best part about the whole process is the delivery guys called the manager and told him what a wreck this set was out of the box. He then asked to talk to me and said that if I wanted to keep trying with more SXRD exchanges he would do as many as it would take to make me satisfied. He stated before he was a manager he was taken for a ride by a major chain, and now that he is in a position to help people he is doing exactly that; I guess it really is Good Friday today! He also gave me his personal cell phone number to call him any time I need something, I have never been more impressed in any retail stores than in the two Best Buy stores I have dealt with. Hats off to the company wanting to make things right for the consumer, now if only we could get Sony to do that from the get go.......well maybe that's asking too much!

punisherofall

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

punisherofall?

How could you possibly get a September build unless you were shipped a refurb or Demo? Where has the panel been for 8 months? Before you give Kudo's to BB don't you think they owe you an answer?

westa6969

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by westa6969
punisherofall?

How could you possibly get a September build unless you were shipped a refurb or Demo? Where has the panel been for 8 months? Before you give Kudo's to BB don't you think they owe you an answer?
I do think it was a refurb, because I saw them unpack it and it was newly boxed on the truck, with the protective paper, tie wraps and all. I am tired of getting crappy sets, but the truth of the matter is I can exchange until I am happy which is all I care about. When they opened the box I was like, how the hell is it possible to get a september build? They said it was shipped from their warehouse, they asked if I wanted to keep this one or the purple corner march set while I waited, so I chose this one because I hate purple blacks. BTW it is night and these blacks are rich black, so it is possible to get a set with nice deep rich blacks and no discolorations. Oh and a blob on warmup that I can't see in an active picture after 5-7 minutes. The convergence is horrible and the image is shifted to the left maybe 1/2-3/4 of an inch. So I think I got a refurb but I am getting another one so no difference to me, but soon enough I may get another march or.... APRIL build!

punisherofall

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackbeardsSaint
They're sending me a refurb that they insist is factory tested- I told him it has to be 'me' tested first in my house.
Refurb? That sucks...why not a new set?

gparris

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASOT
Thanks bhollis... I am still learning alot about all this and I am very much enjoying my set.

So, the key here is that ALL fixed pixel Micro's are progressive. Because even the Sony site says Native Res is 1080i. ?? Dont sets upscale to the sets native res?

Still confused... I believe you... just learning.

Ron
Can you tell me where/which Sony site says its 1080i?

It's interesting, though, I looked thru my SXRD owner's manual and didn't finding any explicit statement that it displays at 1080p (or 1080i for that matter). So let me offer this as proof: One of the TV settings is "Cinemotion." This is Sony's deinterlacer (reverse 3-2 pulldown). Now, if this were a 1080i set, why would it have a deinterlacer?

bhollis

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

I havent gotten the disk(s) yet but when using the Avia or DVE do I have to get into the service menu?

cheezz

cheezz

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by cheezz
I havent gotten the disk(s) yet but when using the Avia or DVE do I have to get into the service menu?

cheezz
No. They are used with the User Menu.

htwaits

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by htwaits
No. They are used with the User Menu.
Thanx!

cheezz

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by cheezz
Thanx!
You're welcome.

htwaits

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Thanks you's to all who responded with the bulb issue and warranty question!

We did purchase the 60" SXRD and the matching stand yesterday... lo and behold, it was delivered to us this morning! I checked the back of the unit to see the manuf date - Feb 2006. We are now in the process of setting it up with the digital cable box, and the rest of our components. So far, it came up immediately with astoundingly beautiful, vivid color...

Donna

weekiwacheefl

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhollis
Can you tell me where/which Sony site says its 1080i?

It's interesting, though, I looked thru my SXRD owner's manual and didn't finding any explicit statement that it displays at 1080p (or 1080i for that matter). So let me offer this as proof: One of the TV settings is "Cinemotion." This is Sony's deinterlacer (reverse 3-2 pulldown). Now, if this were a 1080i set, why would it have a deinterlacer?

Well the Sony site says... Native Resolution: 1920 x 1080

and Vanns says... 1080i Native Resolution, 1920 x 1080 Pixels

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ails/458999365

Ron

ASOT

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASOT
Well the Sony site says... Native Resolution: 1920 x 1080

and Vanns says... 1080i Native Resolution, 1920 x 1080 Pixels
Vanns is wrong and Sony is incomplete. All microchip display devices are progressive and require that all inputs be converted. In this case 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i inputs must be converted to 1080p before they can be displayed.

You would be better off wondering why there are so many errors in Internet based information.

htwaits

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by htwaits
All microchip display devices are progressive and require that all inputs be converted.


Thank you htwaits... That clears it up for me.

Ron

ASOT

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASOT
Thank you htwaits... That clears it up for me.
You're welcome.

htwaits

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Here goes my first post

I just got my SXRD 50 (March build) this week. I couldn't be happier and my wife is very impressed, she says it's the most gorgeous TV she has ever seen.. No blob, no problems. This TV just simply blows away every DLP I've seen. And I don't even have my Dish HD yet (scheduled for installation on Tuesday).

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who posted useful information on this great forum.

wagner

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Got my 50" SXRD unit second week of October 2005.

1. Takes about 8-10 minutes to fully warm up and produce the maximum image.

2. Still have ZERO issues with any picture quality or SSD..

3. Calibrated initially at 200 Hours and again at approx. 500 Hours.. Still looks great!

Overall I am VERY pleased at my purchase. For those worried about the LONGEVITY of this unit, I can at least say that MY Sept. 2005 Build unit is clean from any defects and still running smoothly.. And I have about 700 Hours into it right now...


dsaumkc

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

What's up all. I just bought a 50" SXRD 2 weeks ago. The PQ is amazing and am very happy with it. Just one concern is about HD DVD and Blue-ray though. I'm aware that my SXRD cannot accept 1080p, so will HD DVD and Blue-ray players have an option to select 1080i out, they should right? I don't mind 1080i, since it already looks amazing on my set. And this talk of HDMI 1.3, it should be backwards compatible with the SXRD, right?

Edit: Yea, I'm sure this has probablly been talked about in this thread or some other, but I'm to lazy to search.

tpizarro

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsaumkc
Got my 50" SXRD unit second week of October 2005.

1. Takes about 8-10 minutes to fully warm up and produce the maximum image.

2. Still have ZERO issues with any picture quality or SSD..

3. Calibrated initially at 200 Hours and again at approx. 500 Hours.. Still looks great!

Overall I am VERY pleased at my purchase. For those worried about the LONGEVITY of this unit, I can at least say that MY Sept. 2005 Build unit is clean from any defects and still running smoothly.. And I have about 700 Hours into it right now...

What is that green blob on the screen?

lipcrkr

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by lipcrkr
What is that green blob on the screen?
don't go there

leoday

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by tpizarro
What's up all. I just bought a 50" SXRD 2 weeks ago. The PQ is amazing and am very happy with it. Just one concern is about HD DVD and Blue-ray though. I'm aware that my SXRD cannot accept 1080p, so will HD DVD and Blue-ray players have an option to select 1080i out, they should right? I don't mind 1080i, since it already looks amazing on my set. And this talk of HDMI 1.3, it should be backwards compatible with the SXRD, right?

Edit: Yea, I'm sure this has probablly been talked about in this thread or some other, but I'm to lazy to search.
They will have options to output both 1080i and 720p. How many players could you sell if 1080p were the only option?

Just received the new Crutchfield mailing that has the new Toshiba HD DVD. You can output either 1080i or 720p; but 1080p is not currently an option.

rlb

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unfortunately i cant call myself an owner of this set yet. but i will be soon. so i have a couple questions.

1. i may decide to get it calibrated since i have read so many people who do get it calibrated feel it makes a huge difference. how much does getting this set calibrated cost roughly?

2. how are video games on this set? i usualy only play sports games on the 360 but recently i decided to rent oblivion and now im addicted.

bboncorr1

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Originally Posted by htwaits
Vanns is wrong and Sony is incomplete. All microchip display devices are progressive and require that all inputs be converted. In this case 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i inputs must be converted to 1080p before they can be displayed.

You would be better off wondering why there are so many errors in Internet based information.
I remember the initial announcement by Sony that they were going to come out with this set said simply 1080. Since I had come to know that there was a 1080i and a 1080p, this struck me as being a little odd. Later when I learned from this website that the set would not accept a 1080p signal input, I understood why Sony did not label the set as being a 1080p.

Of course, the set does deinterlace 1080i to 1080p.

Sony didn't make a mistake when they announced the 1080 set. They knew exactly what they were saying and why they were saying it. Although, game players have complained bitterly, they cannot accuse Sony of making a false announcement.

Stan54

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Originally Posted by Stan54
Sony didn't make a mistake when they announced the 1080 set.
Just clever and incomplete.

htwaits

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Not a green blob.... It's the screensaver for the ROTEL DVD player and the background is setup to MOVE around...

But nice try!

dsaumkc

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The posts to this thread have really slowed down in the last couple of weeks. It started when the moderator removed about 300 or so posts. I've been here from the start and it's been a long and bumpy ride.

I find myself waiting for a cure for the faint green stain that I still find on a black and white picture from time to time. Someone said that he heard Sony was going to come out with a "motherboard" of some type that would solve the problem. I'm keeping an eye open for its arrival.

In the meantime the HD is just fine.

Stan54

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does anyone know if I can play video games for an extended amount of time on this unit?

IRH84F

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan54
The posts to this thread have really slowed down in the last couple of weeks. It started when the moderator removed about 300 or so posts. I've been here from the start and it's been a long and bumpy ride.

I find myself waiting for a cure for the faint green stain that I still find on a black and white picture from time to time. Someone said that he heard Sony was going to come out with a "motherboard" of some type that would solve the problem. I'm keeping an eye open for its arrival.

In the meantime the HD is just fine.
Sony better get their act together and let people know about the new SXRD's because the new Sammy DLP's, which myself and a lot of other people are considering as well, are here with more coming in May and are very impressive 1080p's at attractive prices.

lipcrkr

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Quote:
Originally Posted by djbentle
Well, take this for what it's worth. The delivery guys from Magnolia are at my house now dropping off the replacement set. My wife told them it has a green discoloration in the middle of the screen and they said they have had a lot of those and it's fixed from the January sets on. He said the new one should not have the problem and they haven't been seeing the same problems in the ones made in January.

I'm skeptical to say the least, but I'll keep my fingers crossed until I have a chance to check it out tonight. At least they were familiar with the problem, that gives me hope.
DJ,

As a new owner of the 50" which I have had for 3 days now, I do not have the green blob or any discolorization in the corners. It so happens, that my set was made in January....coincidence...not sure. But after reading through 1/2 of the posts in this thread....it actually scared me off of the set for a few months. But after seeing one in action at a friends house I pulled the trigger. The first thing I did was look for "it". Instead of enjoying the set like "NORMAL" people, I am fiddling with settings trying to find a problem...but I have been anal about TV issues all my life so I was bound to try to find something. So far it has been perfect!

Hawkmoon

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Can someone using the clear QAM capability of the 60XBR on a regular basis please comment on its stability. I decided against the 50" Panasonic Plasma because there are a lot of comments about how unstable its QAM tuner is.

SmartShopper

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Quote:
Originally Posted by djbentle
This may not help much, but my wife says the green blob looks like it might be better but it's hard to tell because the sun was shining directly on the tv. She found the memory card slot all by herself as a way to check for the green blob, I'm so proud . Anyway, I've never seen that screen, she said there is a line down one edge, like a scrollbar or something? And it looks slightly bluish or greenish on one side and slightly redish on the other. Can someone who has played with that tell me if this is normal? I may have misunderstood her. It sounds too me a lot like the discoloration I got around the 4:3 bar area on blank inputs, but it I'm not sure if she was talking about a dark screen.

I really hope I didn't exchange the green cloud for other uniformity issues. By the way, the set definitely still has a strong green discoloration on warmup, not that that means anything. She had them note it on the delivery bill.
The cable card menu is grey. How long was the TV on?
J

Big J

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Originally Posted by pratzert
I don't recall seeing any comments about Fan Noise on KDS-R60XBR1 units.

Anyone care to comment regarding noise... or lack of ?

I have read that soem people complain about fan noise ( mostly Mitsubishi DLP's) and I am curious.

You can't go into BB or CC and listen because it's just too noisy with all the surrounding activity.

Thanks, Tim.
The fan is totally quiet, unless you have it set for high altitude.
J

Big J

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
DJ,

As a new owner of the 50" which I have had for 3 days now, I do not have the green blob or any discolorization in the corners. It so happens, that my set was made in January....coincidence...not sure. But after reading through 1/2 of the posts in this thread....it actually scared me off of the set for a few months. But after seeing one in action at a friends house I pulled the trigger. The first thing I did was look for "it". Instead of enjoying the set like "NORMAL" people, I am fiddling with settings trying to find a problem...but I have been anal about TV issues all my life so I was bound to try to find something. So far it has been perfect!
Congrats! This thread almost kept me from buying too. Enjoy your set like normal people.
J

Big J

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big J
The cable card menu is grey. How long was the TV on?
J
I think it had been on for a while, but not that long. I thought the background for the memory stick reader was supposed to be a blank screen in whatever color you picked. I'm not sure what screen exactly she saw the line on. It sounds like maybe it wasn't the memory card reader background screen. Oh well, I'll be home in a few hours, the wait is killing me.

djbentle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by djbentle
I think it had been on for a while, but not that long. I thought the background for the memory stick reader was supposed to be a blank screen in whatever color you picked. I'm not sure what screen exactly she saw the line on. It sounds like maybe it wasn't the memory card reader background screen. Oh well, I'll be home in a few hours, the wait is killing me.
My mistake-I thought you meant the cable card, not memory stick. sorry.
J

Big J

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wakka
I got my 60" on Dec.30

I've got the green haze/cloud at the center cover almost 60% of the screen.
It's always there even having it on for over 10 hours!

If I changed the "TV border" to light or medium on cable HD stb settings, I can see the green clound when I switching channels. I'm using Rogers cable in Canada.

If I switched to channel 996 it give me the "TV border" on FULL screen. I can clearly see the green haze.

When watching news broadcast, I can easly see the skin of the broadcaster more greenish!

I called Sony's customer care and a technician came. He did change to another new light blob and it's the same. He could not fix it and just reported back to Sony. I called my retailer (authorized Sony retailer) and they will ship another one this Sat. They said the one they will delivered has just arrived and should not be the same building date of the existing.

I wonder if those who DO or DON'T have this green haze problem could post their Buid date.

My tv is Dec. build with "SP1" at the end of the date.

unfortunately much to prevalent to ignore for Sony. Lets hope they get it right in 2006 models. there is a good poll now that focuses on the Green Glob problem versus all the other color problems reported. Keep an eye on it

jjsmithin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by maximum360
I guess I imagined my reports and all the service calls, and the letter from the Better Business Bureau was the product of a delusional mind.

They will (almost) always deny that there are any issues with their product.
Do you have any idea as to the effect it would have if Sony admitted they had a problem with a larger number of sets than was normal.......(there will always be some). Such an admission would cause the stock to drop and people would slow the purchase of these sets and all others. It is better corporate policy to fix all the sets that have a problem.....repair or replace; design a set without the problem and switch models to something new and improved. It seems as if this is what they are doing. For those who don't know, they showed a new SXRD at CES which is 55" and thin.....relatively speaking.

While I'm at it.........don't forget for a second, that with all the unknown people on this site how many may plant untrue stories to get back at a company. Competition, disgruntled employees or people who have had a bad buying experience with a company. I do not mean to imply that in this case they don't have a real problem but I have been around long enough to know that invisible people can say anything and I take it all with a grain of salt. Be wary but don't shoot the dog just yet.

HughScot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjsmithin
unfortunately much to prevalent to ignore for Sony. Lets hope they get it right in 2006 models. there is a good poll now that focuses on the Green Glob problem versus all the other color problems reported. Keep an eye on it
"Good Poll"? Surely you can't believe that poll can tell anything about the prevalence of "green glob" or any other color uniformity issues with the SXRD.

It merely says if you have a problem, do you have a 50" or 60" set. Doesn't give the option of saying "no problem".

So if 1,000 people read it and 2 reply that they have a problem with a 60", and 1 replies that they have a problem with a 50" set; I can hear you now. You will say that 100% replied they had a problem and that 2/3 of the problems were with the 60 inch set.

Unfortunately, that would make as much sense as most of the rest of your recent posts.

rlb

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HughScot
Do you have any idea as to the effect it would have if Sony admitted they had a problem with a larger number of sets than was normal.......(there will always be some). Such an admission would cause the stock to drop and people would slow the purchase of these sets and all others. It is better corporate policy to fix all the sets that have a problem.....repair or replace; design a set without the problem and switch models to something new and improved. It seems as if this is what they are doing. For those who don't know, they showed a new SXRD at CES which is 55" and thin.....relatively speaking.

While I'm at it.........don't forget for a second, that with all the unknown people on this site how many may plant untrue stories to get back at a company. Competition, disgruntled employees or people who have had a bad buying experience with a company. I do not mean to imply that in this case they don't have a real problem but I have been around long enough to know that invisible people can say anything and I take it all with a grain of salt. Be wary but don't shoot the dog just yet.
For those not aware or newbies here and/or those who are a bit naive, these forums are loaded with TI, Samsung, and HP Employees and Plants. Take any non-DLP technology bashing or any DLP (especially Samsung & HP) praising or bashing of DLP detractors here with a LARGE grain of salt

Just by coincidence (LOL) HP & Samsung happen to make the lowest rated, least dependable, most problematic DLPs. Who'da thunk it

gazelle

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Again I think a new poll is in order maybe someone can make one up not very good with this computer stuff.

I still want to know first does every set have the green blob at startup..?Is the green blob at start up 100% of all sets or not?

And it seems most have the fade out as the sets warm up. Mine fades out quite a lot thought to nothing.

But it is still there in active picture very noticeable in my game today and this is after like an hour of warmup.This is unacceptable to me .Shouldn't have to wait like an hour or more for this color glitch to totally disappear.

So are these guys who say no green blob talking warm up only or after warmup .And its fairly subtle after warm up at least on my set ,the average person could easily miss it or thing it was maybe just the program or something.It helped to have a game on as that made it very obvious.

So maybe Jan sets are fixed and maybe all current sxrd are flawed but some people don't seem to notice the faint green after warmup and some do maybe.I hate to say it but it may be closer to 100% than some of us owners would like to think.

I have seen five sets in my city out of five that could see .All had some degree of green blob after warmup on memory stick test .Some were in active picture.Didn't get to see them all fire up and said even the super pricey qualia showed some of this on memory stick.So this might be a sideeffect of sony lcos technology.And they are not likely to point it out but I am stubborn enough now thats its in active picture after warmup to push them to keep replacing or get a refund so can try a diferent version or different technology.

Service depot didn't bother returning my call today hopefully in next day or so.The set is at least watchable so can wait a bit. My set is October build not that think it really makes a difference.And I have no intention of messing around in my service or whatever factory menu trying to fix something this expensive.Sony can damn well fix my set.The fact they deny a problem should work in my favor as then can't say they all have it and have no mention in the manual of big green blob at warmup or residual.

So lets have a good poll.. to find out if the green blob at warm up is 100% but again not sure can get a good poll as maybe some people just don't notice it for first 5 minutes or so and after that its usually more subtle and harder to see.If it stayed at full brightness after the 5 minutes they would have sold zero of these sets.

AL B.

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

How many times do we need to do a poll on the green blob?
J

Big J

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

As mentioned, I do not have the problem on my set. I was at Best Buy this afternoon getting a HDMI cable in preperation for Adelphia to deliver my HD DVR Cable Box and I looked the floor model of the 60". It had no green glob. I did notice a discolorization on the bottom right corner, but that was about it.

But that is something possibly a power cycle would fix. I moved my old Xbr400 from an upstairs room to the bottom stairs and upon boot up it had discolored corners on the right hand side. I power cycled it and they were gone.

In any case, the display at my Best Buy was free from the green blob and they had that same set on display for about 4 months or so.

Hawkmoon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazelle
For those not aware or newbies here and/or those who are a bit naive, these forums are loaded with TI, Samsung, and HP Employees and Plants.
Why did you leave out Panasonic, Toshiba and Mitsubishi -- DLPs all? Or for that matter, why did you leave out Sony and JVC -- LCoS?


Quote:
Take any non-DLP technology bashing or any DLP (especially Samsung & HP) praising or bashing of DLP detractors here with a LARGE grain of salt
... but no one else?

Quote:
Just by coincidence (LOL) HP & Samsung happen to make the lowest rated, least dependable, most problematic DLPs. Who'da thunk it
For the "newbies here and/or those who are a bit naive," what does this statement make you?

hozho

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HughScot
For those who don't know, they showed a new SXRD at CES which is 55" and thin.....relatively speaking.
For those of you that may not have seen a picture of the new 2006 55" SXRD, here it is (I hope - this is my first attemp at including an attachment).

hjpj

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

And never forget that if you were to take the total number of people that have bought one of these two sets only a small fraction of them is even aware of this site much less this thread. We are in a minority by a huge factor and the only people who post are ones with a problem. This applies to all merchandise.

If they were having anything like a 50% problem, as this thread would imply, it would be on the nightly news and congress would be holding hearings. It's obviously a problem with some people but I would guess it is less than 5% of the total sets sold. That is enough to make me hold off but I suspect it is like the rainbow effect of DLP's........only seen by 10% of the public but talked about on this site and others as if it was 90%.

HughScot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HughScot
And never forget that if you were to take the total number of people that have bought one of these two sets only a small fraction of them is even aware of this site much less this thread. We are in a minority by a huge factor and the only people who post are ones with a problem. This applies to all merchandise.

If they were having anything like a 50% problem, as this thread would imply, it would be on the nightly news and congress would be holding hearings. It's obviously a problem with some people but I would guess it is less than 5% of the total sets sold. That is enough to make me hold off but I suspect it is like the rainbow effect of DLP's........only seen by 10% of the public but talked about on this site and others as if it was 90%.
Maybe, but I was reading this thread before buying the SXRD and when I got mine, I came to see the green tinting in the center of mine. I think it's subtle enough that a lot of folks wouldn't perceive it, but once you do perceive it, it is hard not to see it thereafter.

True, I personally am only a sample size of one, but I don't _feel_ like the lucky one-in-twenty, reading other posts here.

jonabbey

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Instead of focusing on the negatives, let's look at the positives...I'm convinced that if we can get into the factory mode we can access 3D gamma adjustments that'll help fix these color uniformity issues. The adjustments exist in Sony's LCD front projectors (I've seen 'em), so chances are that they exist in the SXRDs too!

Schwa

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The reason for a another poll was that the one about color unformity is a bit too vague.

A specific green blob at startup question might be more useful but some people may just not notice it since it does fade away in most cases to not be very noticeable.

Thats the point I guess with my set.It is noticeable on active picture and not just black and white old movies. Its there on games and on other active pictures just harder to see sometimes but IT IS THERE!

And for the price of these sets IT SHOULDN"T BE!

So hoping you guys are right and the rate of sets with these problems is low.But I have personally seen five sets including a qualia with some green discoloration visible on memory stick test which is basically a blank grey screen. And these sets were on for many hours so the greenish blob/haze/cloud whatever you choose to call it didn't fade away completely. In a least a couple sets it was seen in active picture and was seen by more than one person viewing it. I wish there were more sets in my city to go view and see if there were any that didn't have this problem. But there are only five in the city of 200,000 and one is mine.Taliking sets I can go see.The salesman at several places said they sold lots of them with no comebacks but hard to say
if people are just getting sony to fix them, or don't notice a problem that may
be too subtle for the average guy.

I am not trying to diss sony or the sxrd.I said I traded up to it and was decently happy with it but can't be happy with a tv that has a visible green splotch however faint that shows up on my video games and other places.

I am happy for you guys that say you have no green blob problem although like I said think many might have it but not see it after warm up.If they dont have it even during warmup then I want to hear about it. I want to believe they will fix/replace my set and I will get a good one.

I will be happy to update and super happy if get a good one. I have no reason to bash sxrd or sony.I have many many sony products in my house and owned many thru the years.I currently have sony dig camera,sony dvd players,sony miultidisc cd player,sony recievers,sony tape decks,sony crt 37 and 27 inch tvs. Heck almost all the electronics in my house is sony.I have usually found them to be reliable and perform excellent.

Thats one reason got the sxrd as final sale since was pretty sure it would be top of line type set. It seemed to be for a bit. I guess should never have found these forums
and likely would be an oblivious happy camper now. But too late for that.

No callback from service shop today so hoping tommorrow or next day or so. Maybe there is some fix in the service or factory menu that can fix it..one can hope.

AL B.

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Hi,
Sorry for the interruption, but the thread concerning my questions was last visited in November.

I am considering 3 options: 1. Buy a 50 inch XBR 2. Buy a 50-inch 3 LCD (A10) 3. Try to wait (which is difficult once you start looking). I couldn't really tell a difference between the pictures on the #1 and #2 at BB today. I definitely don't like the big width of the XBR. The XBR was almost $800 more expensive. I have cable, and do want that size TV.

Question 1: Would the higher resolution on the XBR be more obvious in watching SD? They couldn't switch the store TV's input.

Question 2: Is the twin-picture worth it? Is it difficult to use? As I understand it, you have to use your DVD recorder to receive only a SD picture when using a splitter on the cable.

Question 3: Does HD become government required in 2008? If so, will cable boxes and cards be eliminated, so that PIP and PAP become highly usable again. In that case, I should probably try to wait to make the big expenditure. In a way, I think we've gone backwards.

I know I may have asked something that's been covered before, but I just found this board a couple of days ago. After reading a lot of posts here, I seemed to know more about these TV's than the salesman did. Thank you for any help, or other suggestions. I do know about the "blobs" and the 55-inch supposedly coming out. I don't want that large.

wishkc

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I finally got a chance to put the replacement tv through it's paces. Ironically enough, after the repair guy saying the January sets have the green blob fixed, the new set I got was manufactured in September. I'm not sure where this one came from, it didn't seem to be a return.

Anyway, the green discoloration is significantly less on this set. I'm not ready to call it completely gone, but right now I think it is tolerable. I'm going to keep it for the 30 days and see what happens. I'm convinced my old set got worse after comparing my originally pictures with it before it went back, so hopefully this one doesn't.

I haven't had a chance to perform more than a basic calibration and check for other problems yet, I'll update again if I find anything else.

By the way, I think it's been said before, but for the people checking in stores, make sure you put the tv to pro mode and warm color temperature, at least if you plan on watching it that way at home. Vivid and neutral both significantly decrease the appearance of the green blob.

djbentle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stimperley
It's been a while since a posted but wanted to give an update on my repair. A pretty reputable repair shop took my tv to their shop on Tuesday the 17th to replace the Light Engine to hopefully correct the blue in the corners and tilt of my picture. I haven't talked to the tech actually doing the work and only a dispatcher, but here is what I know thus far: A light engine was replaced and supposedly it cleared up the blue corner issue. Now I'm not sure if it cured it completely because I haven't seen it. That did not correct the tilt issue though so Sony Tech support had the repair shop order some more parts (some type of boards) that the Sony engineer thought would correct the problem. I talked to the repair shop today and the dispatcher told me the latest parts didn't correct the problem and that a tech rep or someone from Sony wanted to see my tv and are coming Friday to look at it.

That's what I know for now and hopefully I'll have more to post after Friday. I'm hoping and actual rep from Sony is going to get us somewhere with the blue/green hue issue.
Was this shop doing these repairs under factory warranty? If so, how did you go about doing it? You call sony and they recommend a place or?

PJ_Rage

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AL B.
The reason for a another poll was that the one about color unformity is a bit too vague.
I'm sure they must exist somewhere, but I have never personally seen a useful RPTV specific poll here on AVSForum. Even if you can construct the poll well, chances are you won't get the necessary participation to draw any real conclusions. Good luck though.

gremmy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wishkc
Hi,
Sorry for the interruption, but the thread concerning my questions was last visited in November.

I am considering 3 options: 1. Buy a 50 inch XBR 2. Buy a 50-inch 3 LCD (A10) 3. Try to wait (which is difficult once you start looking). I couldn't really tell a difference between the pictures on the #1 and #2 at BB today. I definitely don't like the big width of the XBR. The XBR was almost $800 more expensive. I have cable, and do want that size TV.

Question 1: Would the higher resolution on the XBR be more obvious in watching SD? They couldn't switch the store TV's input.

Question 2: Is the twin-picture worth it? Is it difficult to use? As I understand it, you have to use your DVD recorder to receive only a SD picture when using a splitter on the cable.

Question 3: Does HD become government required in 2008? If so, will cable boxes and cards be eliminated, so that PIP and PAP become highly usable again. In that case, I should probably try to wait to make the big expenditure. In a way, I think we've gone backwards.

I know I may have asked something that's been covered before, but I just found this board a couple of days ago. After reading a lot of posts here, I seemed to know more about these TV's than the salesman did. Thank you for any help, or other suggestions. I do know about the "blobs" and the 55-inch supposedly coming out. I don't want that large.

You should wait until the 2006 model comes out. Ya gotta believe Sony will have fixed the green blob discoloration by then.

noxpurt

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I can't believe I just read this whole thread...

2 weeks so far with mine and no problems yet.

joffer

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Something that may or may not mean much.On my set when do memory stick button test you can see a greenish glow comiing out of set...sort of like a backlight thing.Hard to describe.Also on memory stick it says next image or something and right above next image it is definite green and the writing is ghosted above the white writing on gray background and its clearly green. A bit over on thumbnails or something on the memory stick screen should have wrote this down do that tommorrow too burnt out tonite anyway above thumnaiils think it is the writing is ghosted above but in white and other wirting farther over to left o even to right is not ghosted at all.This maybe points to some serious alignment problem with screen or light engine or something.

Also I think the green haze on my set is more noticeable on gray type stuff.watching hockey and it didn't seem all that obvious on the ice itself.

That weird green ghost letters above roughly center where the blob is and the ghost overtop of the one word or so might mean something.I really need to try to get some pics and learn how to post them.I know I can send pics email but not sure how to post them directily..

Also did sony comletely get out of plasma tv now? And just go lcd and projection.Or is sony just coming out with new plasma models.

AL B.

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Ok was "next page" and "thumbnails" You have to go close to tv say three feet and look at those words.Above next page on my set is definite ghost image of the words and its definite green colored.Above thumbnails same but white letter ghost.

You can't see this from back twelve feet you have to get close.Appreciate if some of you would test this.Might mean my set is dropped,screen is defective,light engine has moved out of place something.I don't think ghosting of the letters is a good thing.Tried to take pics not sure how good they are.Just got new camera and not good with it yet.I can send them email to someone if someone gives me address.And you can post them.
I have one of double image on the next page and thumbnail and one showing the other words look normal.
I tried to get some green blob pictures but its too subtle I think or mabye just have to learn to use my camera.Obviously can't use flash to shoot the tv right?

I am thinking this ghosting of the letters especially green ghost near center screen is related maybe.

AL B.

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Mine is a November build.
I can see a green doughnut at cold startup but it's completely gone in a few mins when it's warmed up.
I watch quite a bit of B&W on the history channel & such so if it was there I'd see it.

There is no noise I can hear coming from the fan.

TheMoose

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AL B.
Ok was "next page" and "thumbnails" You have to go close to tv say three feet and look at those words.Above next page on my set is definite ghost image of the words and its definite green colored.Above thumbnails same but white letter ghost.

You can't see this from back twelve feet you have to get close.Appreciate if some of you would test this.Might mean my set is dropped,screen is defective,light engine has moved out of place something.I don't think ghosting of the letters is a good thing.Tried to take pics not sure how good they are.Just got new camera and not good with it yet.I can send them email to someone if someone gives me address.And you can post them.
I have one of double image on the next page and thumbnail and one showing the other words look normal.
I tried to get some green blob pictures but its too subtle I think or mabye just have to learn to use my camera.Obviously can't use flash to shoot the tv right?

I am thinking this ghosting of the letters especially green ghost near center screen is related maybe.
Al-

If I get up to to 3 feet from my screen, I can also see the ghosting of those words if I look down at them. If I put my head at their level, I cannot see the ghost words. I can't see the words from my seating location (12 feet away), even using binoculars.

I think this is related to the thickness of the screen- I think we are seeing the image when it hits the back of the screen, and also when it hits the front.

I don't think this indicates a problem- all screens have certain viewing restrictions. The manual says the minimum viewing distance is 7 ft for the 60" and 6.6 ft for the 50".

Sean

SeanRiddle

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Originally Posted by bleedblue63
Well the issue is if you accidentially press channel up on the SXRD remote (or with the universal remote in the TV mode) it switches to the internal tuner and I get static from what ever channel its on. No, I don't have an external antenna or cable. I have a SAT box on HDMI Video 6. I think what you are telling me is that I need to disable the tuner from being one of my inputs. This probably happened the first time I powered up. It began looking for cable channels. Thanks for any help, this forum is terrific.

That would bring me to the question of how to remove the internal tuner from my list of inputs?
There has to be a better way. I think I just need to "SKIP" the internal tuner. I haven't found an option to do that.

bleedblue63

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Originally Posted by tommiegum
doesnt matter how many times you exchange it. It will always hav the Green Glob defect. 100% of the TV are shipped defective.
Where is your empirical data to support this conclusion?
How sad and truly pathetic that someone who doesn't even own a SXRD has nothing better to do than cyberstalk legitimate owners and post misinformation.
Get a hobby or something. Unless this is it?

fugufish

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Originally Posted by ahr2003
By the way, what is 'pop' focus?
Just trying to describe how the picture 'pops' off the screen it's so sharp.

Glad your new set is good so far! You may want to leave it on to accumulate some hours well before your return window is up.

I read that there was 5 assembly lines for the SXRD in PA. It could be that some of the lines can build a decent set or they pull from a different lot of lamps and perhaps this is the reason for the variability we are seeing?

My room was 67F last night and it took at least 90 mins before it warmed up to the point of being ok to watch without a central green haze all over snow, ice, etc watching the olympics last night. Thats a long time to wait for a cleaner picture.

tbAVS

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I hate to be a pain, but what page is the service bulliten on? I did a search and its not helping!

BlackbeardsSaint

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Originally Posted by jrowsey1
Well, I had previously posted that after exchanging my 50" 3 times, the fourth and final set delivered was without the green blob.

It's been 4 days now, and I need to withdraw my previous assertion. This set has the green blob. What made it difficult to see was the fact that it covers 95% of the screen, all but a 1" perimeter all the way around the set. My girlfriend and I noticed it while watching Casablanca on Valentines Day. Poor Bogey looked so green I though he was sea-sick. Now that I saw the outline of the blob, I can see it on normal viewing.

I have contacted the Sony CS dept, and have a Tech (2 actually, these guys work in pairs) coming out on Saturday. I am going to push for an OB swap. My 30 day return window expires on 2/20. So, after the tech visit, I'm call BB corp office and get an extension on my return window until after the OB swap. Hopefully this set can be saved, otherwise I have to start looking for a different TV.

I'll keep you posted on the OB swap results.
If it basically covers the screen, I would call it green tint vice green blob. Have you tried adjusting it out with the green gain/bias adjustments? It worked fine for me. You would be improving your grayscale, not hurting it. That's why Sony hass the white balance adjustments as a customer setting.

rlb

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Originally Posted by AUPigskin--
I went ahead and had Sony fix my optical block to fix the Green blob, as history:
1) My Sept Build had intolerable blue hue, Sony replaced the set
2) This Nov Build had acceptable blacks (not perfect), but had Green Glob

OB now replaced (Parts and Labor charged to Sony: 1144):
1) Blue hue is noticably better, actually can't find the dreaded hue. Blank screen is now uniform black... (added bonus)
2) Green Glob appears to either be gone or at level I don't notice
3) It appears the 'calibration' of this OB is different than my previous 2 OBs. The Red dominance seen before, prior to white balance adjustments, has been removed. Not sure if they changed their calibration or what, but my default settings to my eye are damn-near dead on.

So far, I'm a happy camper....
Very encouraging post. I would hope that those with problems take note of this.

I personally would make Sony keep replacing the optical block until they provided a good one or refunded my money.

rlb

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Glad to see sony is replacing or doing something on your sets.Just about two weeks and tech says hasn't heard anything from sony on mine.Nada,zip!

So its sounds basically pretty much like before,with some guys getting replacements even Jan replacements that still have problems and some guys saying they have a good one.

Not super encouraging.

I will just keep waiting I guess for something to be tried. Only good news is maybe since they are so freakin slow that will get a march build and maybe just mabye they will be fixing these newer sets.

The defect rate may not be 100% but it sounds like its sure 50% or more. And yes you can say that many people with good ones are not posting on the forum.I will mabye try to go back and check more sxrd in a few months in the stores like did last time and this time try to see what build dates they are.

The new set are out in august or something read on forum..Hoping they have better quality control on those.

And still say any residual after 5 or 10 minutes is unacceptable and these sets should work in a temp range of 60 up..not need to be 70 or 75 degrees room temp to work right and haven't really tried to run a space heater yet near my set.My room is cool usually around 65 degrees.

I am also ready to block the fan vents at least partially.If the tv dies well play f@@king stupid like sony is doing so far with me...at least they will pretty much have to replace it if its outright cooked!!

Actually about ready soon to email this person I know at natiional tv program in canada called W5.They love to get stories like this .Maybe get a bunch of us with same problem to put a program together ,that should get sony's attention and bet they would be refunding us very quickly if we threaten to do that.

You guys should not have to settle with green at all after 5 or 10 minutes. Or sony should at least be offering more money as a rebate to people with the problem.I paid top dollar for a top set.

And said so far sony has pushed me off when phone customer service and says they have no info on my tv. They keep saying have to go thru local tech and he keeps saying he has to wait for sony service rep or something to tell him what he can do.

AL B.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AL B.
Glad to see sony is replacing or doing something on your sets.Just about two weeks and tech says hasn't heard anything from sony on mine.Nada,zip!
Al,
It sounds like your tech is giving you the run around, not Sony. My set was picked up, diagnosed, part ordered, and returned in exactly 7 calendar days. I would call Sony and ask for an alternative Tech to pickup your set.

FYI...the Techs here in my town do NOT diagnose at the customers house (ambient light, tools, etc.).

AUPigskin--

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedblue63
I did the memory stick test last night on my 60 SXRD January 2006 build with the serial number starting with S0191 and I have to tell you I could not see any sign of the green blob. I asked my wife to look as well and she did not see any hint of green on the blank gray screen. I had it on for about an hour before I did the test. I'll try it again soon after start up and take another look.

Questions: Can someone tell me if there is a way to set the channel fix to Video 6 (the HDMI input for my SAT box)? Also, when cycling through the inputs it seems like I have the cable tuner as an input (static) Is there a way to skip this input? Thanks!
My set is in the basement and it is quite cool I'll say low 60s.

bleedblue63

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Quote:
Originally Posted by rlb
If it basically covers the screen, I would call it green tint vice green blob. Have you tried adjusting it out with the green gain/bias adjustments? It worked fine for me. You would be improving your grayscale, not hurting it. That's why Sony hass the white balance adjustments as a customer setting.
I would agree that it is more of a tint than a blob, if not for the fact that after a 2 hour warm-up, the blob gets slightly smaller and only covers 75% of the screen. I have adjusted green gain/bias, but the blob is still there. I appreciate the advice. Any other suggestions are welcome

Jon

jrowsey1

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AL B.
Glad to see sony is replacing or doing something on your sets.Just about two weeks and tech says hasn't heard anything from sony on mine.Nada,zip!

So its sounds basically pretty much like before,with some guys getting replacements even Jan replacements that still have problems and some guys saying they have a good one.

Not super encouraging.

I will just keep waiting I guess for something to be tried. Only good news is maybe since they are so freakin slow that will get a march build and maybe just mabye they will be fixing these newer sets.

The defect rate may not be 100% but it sounds like its sure 50% or more. And yes you can say that many people with good ones are not posting on the forum.I will mabye try to go back and check more sxrd in a few months in the stores like did last time and this time try to see what build dates they are.

The new set are out in august or something read on forum..Hoping they have better quality control on those.

And still say any residual after 5 or 10 minutes is unacceptable and these sets should work in a temp range of 60 up..not need to be 70 or 75 degrees room temp to work right and haven't really tried to run a space heater yet near my set.My room is cool usually around 65 degrees.

I am also ready to block the fan vents at least partially.If the tv dies well play f@@king stupid like sony is doing so far with me...at least they will pretty much have to replace it if its outright cooked!!

Actually about ready soon to email this person I know at natiional tv program in canada called W5.They love to get stories like this .Maybe get a bunch of us with same problem to put a program together ,that should get sony's attention and bet they would be refunding us very quickly if we threaten to do that.

You guys should not have to settle with green at all after 5 or 10 minutes. Or sony should at least be offering more money as a rebate to people with the problem.I paid top dollar for a top set.

And said so far sony has pushed me off when phone customer service and says they have no info on my tv. They keep saying have to go thru local tech and he keeps saying he has to wait for sony service rep or something to tell him what he can do.
Al, as I've said before, your problem resolution is unsat. Suggest you stop talking to CSR's and start going up the supervisor/management chain until you find someone who will take ownership.

rlb

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Originally Posted by rlb
Al, as I've said before, your problem resolution is unsat. Suggest you stop talking to CSR's and start going up the supervisor/management chain until you find someone who will take ownership.
I agree you really need to move up on that food chain. The simple fact is people who don't have the power to make decisions are useless when it comes to solving a real problem.

nevea2be

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

I called Sony about the extended warranty. You can purchase it from Sony within 30 days of the original purchase date from an authorized Sony dealer. Check www.sonystyle.com for coverage. The 5 year is $319 with no bulb coverage. Sony does not cover bulbs. Tweeter was $599.99 for 4 years with one bulb so basically you are getting one year less of coverage and paying for the bulb up front for $600! The Sony warranty is looking much better.

DMP2722

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

If you are not an owner of these displays DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD

That being said, owners if someone annoys you repeatedly add them to your ignore list. If you don't know how to do that please PM me and I will be glad to assist.

I understand that the harassment level has been high and the Admins are working on it. You guys also need to stop replying to them and grow a thicker skin. They keep coming back for the easy targets that cant let their comments roll off your back. Don't get caught up in the hype and perpetuate the problem.

Thank you.

Barrybud

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I am considering buying the Sony KDS-R50XBR1 in the next month. I read where new models will be shown soon, perhaps March. Do you have any info on what maybe coming?

Thanks,

rlmfswingle

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrybud
If you are not an owner of these displays DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD

That being said, owners if someone annoys you repeatedly add them to your ignore list. If you don't know how to do that please PM me and I will be glad to assist.

I understand that the harassment level has been high and the Admins are working on it. You guys also need to stop replying to them and grow a thicker skin. They keep coming back for the easy targets that cant let their comments roll off your back. Don't get caught up in the hype and perpetuate the problem.

Thank you.
Halleluja Barrybud! It will be nice to get this thread back on track and useful for those of us that are actual owners and need to exchange critical USER information. So many posts have been wasted on off topic issues, that there are too many posts to wade though just to get to the needed info.

Of course, we can't stop someone from CLAIMING that they are an owner, but then again, we can always report those that become pests...

The only downside I see to your request is that we may be turning away those that are just about to pull the trigger on a new SXRD and need some last minute advice. I guess thay can always start a new thread to ask their specific questions.

Thanks again!
Chris

CSonntag

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMP2722
I called Sony about the extended warranty. You can purchase it from Sony within 30 days of the original purchase date from an authorized Sony dealer. Check sonystyle-com for coverage. The 5 year is $319 with no bulb coverage. Sony does not cover bulbs. Tweeter was $599.99 for 4 years with one bulb so basically you are getting one year less of coverage and paying for the bulb up front for $600! The Sony warranty is looking much better.
I just talked to them about their extended warranty on my 60" sxrd because the sonystyle-com website says you have 60 days to purchase it. The person checked and said that's a typo - apparently you have 11 months to purchase the extended warranty. Guess I'll call again later to see if I get the same answer from someone else.

At least I used my VISA card to purchase the TV, which extends the original warranty for one additional year and is also supposed to include a bulb replacement. Guess I need to call them back to see if I get the same response from them.

I just purchased a Jan 06 unit - and haven't noticed (nor have I even looked for) the green blob problem.

jffinn

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Now if I can only figure out how to channel fix on Video 6 (HDMI) all would be right in the world!

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SXRD 60, Hughes DirecTV, Sammsung upconverting DVD, Polk Audio

bleedblue63

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Last night, I finally unpacked and setup my new 60" SXRD. This is just a quick report on my initial impressions. I'm primarily driving the TV using a HTPC, currently with an ATI x1300 Pro video card connected via DVI->HDMI.

Color balance: After choosing the obvious settings (Pro, Warm), the color balance was the best I've ever seen, with only a slight green push (as measured using the DVE color patterns and filters). Even with adjustments, I've haven't been able to get other TVs' (Sony CRT, Samsung LCD) colors dialed as well as this TV's untweaked colors (Note: I'm no ISF pro...I've only used basic user controls to try to calibrate TVs).

Black level: Black capability is excellent, and playing with the brightness, the TV was easily able to display the full range of blacks in the DVE pluge. When trying to adjust the brightness to the right level...surprise! Sony's default was just right.

Color uniformity: In uniform grey screens (e.g. memory stick), I can definitely see minor a green tint on about the left 3rd of the screen and a pink/purple tint down the right side. These problems are minor enought that they aren't noticeable to me in "normal"/average content. (Still trying to decide whether or not to exchange for another unit).

Timings: I had no difficulty in getting the x1300 Pro to work with the TV via DVI in 720p and 1080i. 720p looks great (although with some expected softness due to scaling). I did try the 1776x1000 timings recommended in the tweaks thread, but too much underscan resulted in some garbage being displayed at the bottom of some content (presumably the garbage was expected to be off-screen).

SD: I'm very impressed with how good analog SD content looks with this combo of video card and TV. The DVE DVD showed quite a bit of noise, that I think is content-specific, but some other DVDs (e.g. The Matrix) looked great.

Regards!

virtualtopgun

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Service bulliten?

BlackbeardsSaint

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedblue63
Now if I can only figure out how to channel fix on Video 6 (HDMI) all would be right in the world!

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SXRD 60, Hughes DirecTV, Sammsung upconverting DVD, Polk Audio
So, what is the advantage of channel fixing on a video input? I have not channel fixed any inputs, and on my set, I just turn on the tv and cable box, and it always defaults to the video 6 (HDMI) input, which is exactly what I want it to do. Are there any other advantages to channel fixing?

CSonntag

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

My HD COMCAST box is coming tomorrow. What is the best way to hook it up to the TV and
receiver and still be able to get DD5.1 ? Can I still receive dolby digital through the tv? If so
will an HDMI output work for that. Or should I bypass the tv and run optical directly from cable box to receiver?

logans420

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

By the way this would be for the 50" sxrd which my lucky ass got from my
fiance for valentines day! Also I have to say this site is f-ing great!!!!

logans420

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bsather
With all the rain, sleet, hail, snow, freezing rain & thunderstorms yesterday in Illinois our power flickered off a few times during the evening. I have my 50" SXRD, HDD500 and all other components plugged into a Panamax surge protector, but I now would like a battery backup unit.

I have a 1000va / 600 watt APC UPS that I am not currently using. Is that enough wattage for at least the TV & HD-DVR? I know it is for a PC, but wondered if it would work for the TV. If not, what is recommended in the $200-$300 range?
I have my Monster HTS3500MkII plugged into a Tripplite HT1500UPS, All the equipment in my sig is plugged into the Monster power center & I've had several power "blinks" & one outage since I've got the Tripplite & it worked fine.
The Tripplite is made for HT which means it has much cleaner power than a computer UPS.

TheMoose

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMP2722
I called Sony about the extended warranty. You can purchase it from Sony within 30 days of the original purchase date from an authorized Sony dealer. Check www.sonystyle.com for coverage. The 5 year is $319 with no bulb coverage. Sony does not cover bulbs. Tweeter was $599.99 for 4 years with one bulb so basically you are getting one year less of coverage and paying for the bulb up front for $600! The Sony warranty is looking much better.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jffinn
I just talked to them about their extended warranty on my 60" sxrd because the sonystyle-com website says you have 60 days to purchase it. The person checked and said that's a typo - apparently you have 11 months to purchase the extended warranty. Guess I'll call again later to see if I get the same answer from someone else.

At least I used my VISA card to purchase the TV, which extends the original warranty for one additional year and is also supposed to include a bulb replacement. Guess I need to call them back to see if I get the same response from them.

I just purchased a Jan 06 unit - and haven't noticed (nor have I even looked for) the green blob problem.
When I talked to Sony on the phone before I bought my set they also told me that I had until the warranty ran out to buy the extended warranty through them. But someone else did mention on here that it had to be before the last 30 days of the warranty run out. So I guess as long as it's done within the first 11 months nobody should have any problem with getting it from Sony.

nevea2be

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedblue63
Now if I can only figure out how to channel fix on Video 6 (HDMI) all would be right in the world!

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SXRD 60, Hughes DirecTV, Sammsung upconverting DVD, Polk Audio
Go to menu/channel/channel fix and choose video 6.

nevea2be

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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSonntag
So, what is the advantage of channel fixing on a video input? I have not channel fixed any inputs, and on my set, I just turn on the tv and cable box, and it always defaults to the video 6 (HDMI) input, which is exactly what I want it to do. Are there any other advantages to channel fixing?
If your using other inputs and not the coaxial input then when switching inputs it will skip the coaxial default setting. Plus it locks the channel button on the Sony remote so it wont change channels on you if it gets accidentally pressed.

nevea2be

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by logans420
My HD COMCAST box is coming tomorrow. What is the best way to hook it up to the TV and
receiver and still be able to get DD5.1 ? Can I still receive dolby digital through the tv? If so
will an HDMI output work for that. Or should I bypass the tv and run optical directly from cable box to receiver?
Connect the audio straight to the receiver.

nevea2be

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by logans420
By the way this would be for the 50" sxrd which my lucky ass got from my
fiance for valentines day! Also I have to say this site is f-ing great!!!!
Lucky Dog....You should absoultely marry her. Hook STB to your receiver to get DD5.1. I don't believe the SXRD will pass a DD5.1 thru the HDMI or the componet cables.

haobms1

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyMoose
Does this mean the model is near it's end of production? I was in my local Circuit City today and I was shocked to see an in-store special, a $1000 price drop (model KDSR60XBR1), the sign said "Managers Special". I asked if it was the floor model, they said it is for a brand new unit. Unfortunately for me, I purchased mine a week ago, I also got a good price, but this was better than I paid by $500. I don't think because of forum rules that I can post the price but for anyone interested it is the Circuit City store in Paramus, NJ. Also, for anyone who purchased from Circuit City in this area, perhaps they can get a price guarantee adjustment.
Unless CC is different in your area (though I doubt it) or they have since changed the rules, if the price goes down before the 30 days, you get the new price plus 10% off.
When I bought my 70" HDTV set last March, the price changed along with the stand and I got the difference credited on both...give it a try.

gparris

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Count me as one owner (my 60 arrived two days ago) who thinks all the bruhaha is WAY overblown. I have seen 7 SXRD's, and not a single solitary one has had any flaws that were visible on program material. Hey, if you watch solid 50% gray screens, that MAY be a different story, but I'm even skeptical of that. Sure, there are some credible reports of problems, but there are also an untold number of unverified claims by people who just may have an agenda. The picture on my set appears, to MY EYES, to be flawless. ZERO complaints.

OK, I've only had it for two days. Give me some time and maybe SSE (which I have never seen), geen blobs, and whatever else will appear, but I don't believe I'm going to go LOOKING for them. If I see them watching TV, OK, but if I can only see them when looking at some TEST PATTERN, then I just don't give a damn.

haysdb

Official 2005 Sony KDSR 50 60XBR1 SXRD Owners Thread

Well 7 out of 7 is great better than my 5 out of 5 that had it.The 5 out of 5 did not have it super obvious when you just walked into the store.If they were super obvious after warmup with massive bright green areas like the warmup green not one person would buy the set!

Its subtle after warmup on most sets.Its there on memory stick and memory stick test gives a constant gray backround.Its not noticeable on black or very dark scenes and not that much on bright white scenes..talking the residual green cloud not the intial startup.That startup green is visible pretty much on anything on my set.

It isn't a stupid test.If you see residual green after 15min,30 minutes,an hour,two hours.its there in your active picture.You might not see it on your dvds or live tv much or you may thing it was the film or lighting or whatever.Then maybe you pop in a game which is much purer type of source and can see it quite clearly as was posted in pics by Hank ,Cod2 on 360 is good test and it has lots of gray scenes and gray brings it out and smoke effects which also make it pretty clear.
Mine seems to go away to point of not being noticeable after maybe 3 or 4 hours.No where near acceptable.

So maybe those sets had no obvious green blobs but that dont' mean they dont' have the problem if you didn't test on memory stick and many of those sets could have been on for 3 ,4, or more hours.The sets I saw in my city were likely on most of morning when I went and looked at them and some were worse for sure and more obvious and some were subtle enough that the average guy wouldn't notice it until it was pointed out.

But that is still no excuse.No where in the manual or anywhere in mag rave reviews was this problem mentioned and I can't believe that some mags that tested the tvs didn't see it on their test screens.

I don't care about 5 minutes warmup green blob,even 10 minutes or so. But having green areas on my games and other active pictures is not acceptable after initial warmup.

I hope the newer versions of the set are good. Or hope if not then at least can eventually get a newer version set off sony or a refund if they can't repair this thing.

I guess time to phone the local repair shop again and see whats up with my tv. Coming two weeks since heard dick all from the repair guy and sony customer service is playing stupid and passing the buck back to the local shop.So far not impressed at all!

For you guys with no problems..great..happy for you ..really .
And you will see SSE on the sxrd lke all projection sets..rent some movies with lots of bright sky and stuff. You can minimize it by turning down picture and brightness but some will still be there. Sititng back really far might help some too. I can only get back 12 feet from my 60.I can live with the SSE but not the green cloud well after warmup that takes many hours to fade to near invisibility.

AL B.

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