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Question Chattanooga, TN - HDTV ( AVS Forum Local HDTV Info and Reception )
Updated: 2008-05-23 09:31:44 (1365)
Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

First post to the forum, thanks to others that I've already learned from. Couldn't find a Chattanooga post so thought I would start a thread.

I'm in North Georgia, between 18 & 22 miles from most towers. Just installed the Winegard 7084P in the attic on Friday and it's working great, I think. Signal runs through Hughes HTL-HD (got the $99 deal) to Sony KP51-WS500. I think the antenna is working great because I've got sw 1.06 on the receiver which means no signal meter for now. Good audio and video with no break up on either so assume I've aimed fairly well.

On to the question portion. I get WRCB, WTVC, WDEF and WTCI all fine (analog & digital). Also get WDSI (Fox) good in analog but I didn't pick up the digital signal in the channle scan. Didn't pick up WFLI (WB) digital either. Both of these towers appear to be in the same (very close) location as others I'm picking up well. Anyone in the Chattanooga area getting these channels that I can't pick up?

Also tried to do a manual channel add on the HTL-HD but it tells me the channel is unavailable. Any advice on trying to add these manually so I can try to tweak my antenna pointing?

Thanks!

Answers: Chattanooga, TN - HDTV ( AVS Forum Local HDTV Info and Reception )
Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tamaran-2000
So cool. Just stay there for longer than a few days. I have digital cable and I found Fox in glorious HD located at 90.3. That is of course with no set top box on my Sony Quam tuner.
WTF !!! Dish and Directv will never be able access FOX HD now!! What is it with that channel. Just when you think you finnally have FOX HD they pull this crap!!

esaletnik

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by srrobinson2
Folks, let's call this guy tomorrow. He responded to a couple of emails from me over a week ago and promised to look into the issue. Since then--nothing...

Patrick Motley
Chief Engineer
FOX61
1101 East Main Street
Chattanooga TN 37408
423.265.0061
I'm going to call and call all freaking day tomorrow until they call the cops on me to get my point accross.

esaletnik

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by esaletnik
I'm going to call and call all freaking day tomorrow until they call the cops on me to get my point accross.
I spoke to one of the three stooges that work in the eng. dept with motley just after the tried to fire up the my network channel; and asked him what in the h--- was going on and what was thier problem, he told me not to complain to him but complain to the manager Tracye what ever her name is, He gave me the run around about not haveing the right eqpt. or the money to hire the right people to keep it going, I'am so tired of the b.s lies they tell you. If they can't deliver the programming that they brag about on thier web site they should just shut up.

indian123

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I think what's most frustrating about WDSI is that the FOX HD channel was working fine 2 weeks ago and they screwed it up! It seems pretty obvious that they have changed something while trying to bring that silly MyNetwork subchannel online.

Maybe I'm just stupid, but it seems that it'd be better to have actually have the FOX HD channel working before worrying about getting MyNetwork subchannel up. WDSI is only about 3 years behind the other stations in the area regarding HD, and when they finally get it working, they break it.

Apparently they are just too dumb to just revert back to however they had it set up two weeks ago. I understand that you can have hardware/software issues that cause the OTA signal to go down from time to time, but that is not the case here. The signal is going out, it's just set up incorrectly so that most set top boxes and MCE boxes can't understand it.

I mean, the people at WDSI make it sound like they are reinventing the wheel. All of these issues have happened in other markets, and have been sorted out and corrected. Hell, they've been stalling HD for three years in Chattanooga. Any problem they may have has already been encountered and been fixed somewhere, probably several years ago!!! You'd think that station engineers would talk to each other????

Oh wait, Mr. Motley is obviously too busy screwing up the HD channel and ignoring e-mails to actually talk to some other station engineer who might be able to help him sort things out.

DonInTn

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I guess WDSI getting bought isn't going to change anything...

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Hello...thanks for the info on the situation. We lost our PSIP infornmation about a week ago. It is supplied by our main station in Scranton, PA through our computer network and we have been working on getting it restored from them. The Dish and Direct TV tuners require this information more than other receivers. I will let you know when it is back. Thanks for your patience. It has been quite a challenge to build the MyNetwork channel during all of this. Patrick Motley


----

Let's keep our fingers crossed!

srrobinson2

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by srrobinson2
Hello...thanks for the info on the situation. We lost our PSIP infornmation about a week ago. It is supplied by our main station in Scranton, PA through our computer network and we have been working on getting it restored from them. The Dish and Direct TV tuners require this information more than other receivers. I will let you know when it is back. Thanks for your patience. It has been quite a challenge to build the MyNetwork channel during all of this. Patrick Motlley
Well, at least you got a response. Now we know that it's "only" a networking problem that they can't seem to fix for the better part of two weeks!

But I think his response shows what the real problem is at FOX61. The fact that they are devoting any of their engineering time at this point to getting the MyNetwork channel up before getting the primary FOX HD channel broadcasting in a stable matter is just plain silly. Maybe Mr. Motley wouldn't feel so "challenged" if he'd just focus on getting the primary Fox HD channel broadcasting for more than a few days at a time.

Fox viewers in Chattanooga have been waiting 2-3 years for them to get off their butts and and start HD broadcasts so my "patience" is wearing a little thin at this point. I would venture to guess that the vast majority of Fox viewers could care less about the silly MyNetwork subchannel with little or no programming. We just want our HD Fox primetime shows and sports!

DonInTn

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Just an update for those of you who are in the situation where your Dish/Direct TV box or MCE wouldn't tune to FOX. It seems that as of 12pm today, they are transmitting their PSIP info again. When I tuned via Fusion software I received the WDSI call sign and I could tune to Fox 40.1 via MCE and receive the station. I did not see the 40.2 MyNetwork via the Fusion software.

DonInTn

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Anybody spotted HD for Fox and/or CW(WFLI) on Comcast digital cable, other than QAM?

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Channel 12 uses approx 15.5 mb/s for the HD channel, not sure about the other stations, although I'd guess by the looks of Ch 3's weather channel they are probably running about 17 mb/s on their HD feed.

maharg18

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Did anyone else lose FOX61 HD in the last couple of days? I'm using MCE05 and although I could tune using the Fusion software yesterday and I get full strength in MCE, MCE says "No Signal" if I try to watch or record within MCE.

Just trying to figure out if it's on my end or if the station has played around with the PSIP info and confused MCE?

BTW... was working fine before this. (At least when FOX was actually transmitting the HD signal)

DonInTn

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by DonInTn
Did anyone else lose FOX61 HD in the last couple of days? I'm using MCE05 and although I could tune using the Fusion software yesterday and I get full strength in MCE, MCE says "No Signal" if I try to watch or record within MCE.

Just trying to figure out if it's on my end or if the station has played around with the PSIP info and confused MCE?

BTW... was working fine before this. (At least when FOX was actually transmitting the HD signal)
Yep, it's gone

esaletnik

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

FOX61 HD has been on 40.3 while 61.1 has been dark.

Tygerrz

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tygerrz
FOX61 HD has been on 40.3 while 61.1 has been dark.
61.1 is back and 40.2 was broadcasting a "MyTV" test pattern.

esaletnik

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

So is the "MyTV" going to be on 61.2? I don't currently show a 61.2 channel on my Dish Network 622 receiver. Will it just appear when that channel becomes available?

smokey982

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Does anyone know what channel the new Fox station is going to be? As posted above they now have channels on 40 and 61... I will need to email beyond tv to have the new channel's guide data added.

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Hey Guys,

I have been reading all of the post for almost a year now. I live in Ft Oglethorpe. (for all you people that are from chattanooga) I have had an off air antenna for over a year now and have been waiting like everyone else in chattanooga for FOX to get their head out of their....well you know. Just recently I have experienced some problems and I need some help.

Well lets start with what I do know. I am using a standard DISH NETWORK high def receiver with an off air tuner built in. It has worked perfect for over a year now. I have a medium range off air antenna on a 30ft mast. This has worked perfect in the past. Now I am having weird problems. For some reason I can not pick up ABC anymore. When I look at my guide, it still shows that I am receving Channel 9 on frequency 35, but there is nothing on that channel. Also about a month ago, on my guide channel 35-01 just appeared with channel 9-01. There was nothing on channel 9-01 and everything from ABC was on 35... Now channel 35 is gone and I am back to the guide telling me I have channel 9 and I really have squat. I can pick up FOX HD on channel 40, so I know I am doing something right. Has anyone else experienced these problems? I have 2 other friends with the same setup I have with DISH NETWORK boxes. So is it a problem with the boxes or with ABC? Please help!

CollegeFan

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeFan
For some reason I can not pick up ABC anymore. When I look at my guide, it still shows that I am receving Channel 9 on frequency 35, but there is nothing on that channel. Also about a month ago, on my guide channel 35-01 just appeared with channel 9-01. There was nothing on channel 9-01 and everything from ABC was on 35... Now channel 35 is gone and I am back to the guide telling me I have channel 9 and I really have squat.
You may have to have your box rescan for channels. The actual physical channel that ABC is on... is UHF 35... but since most people know WTVC as "Channel 9" the station has the option of sending your set-top box information that makes it look like it is still channel 9. The station may have been playing with this PSIP information, and caused your box to get confused. Do a rescan, and it should get the latest lineup.


Also... for everyone else, WDSI's digital signal is actually on UHF 40... since the station is just now getting their HD signal working... they are also playing with their PSIP data which may be throwing off your boxes. There is no station at 61.1.

WDSI's Fox broadcast is on 40.1, and the MyNetworkTV is on 40.2.

Puwaha

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Hey Puwaha,

Thanks for the advice. I did a rescan for digital channels and still no ABC. Here is a list of channels that I did pick up.

3-01 WRCB
3-02

12-01 WDEF
12-02

23-01 WELF
23-02
23-03
23-04
23-05

40-01 Assume this is gonna be FOX, but no call letters
40-02

45-01 WTCI
45-02
45-03
45-04

53-01 WFLI
53-02

Should I be getting anything else besides ABC or is it the only problem?
I have the older DISH NETWORK box, the 810 or something like that.
Can you get ABC?

CollegeFan

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

So is the 40.2 sub-channel on full time now? Because it does not show up on my guide. I have a Dish Network 622 and I did a re-scan for locals but only the 40.1 (Fox) shows up.

smokey982

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Fox was broadcasting MyNetworkTV last night in SD. My tuner said it was 5 Mbs. It was showing up as 40.2, but I would have to believe they will change it back to 61.2 when they are finished setting it up.

BTW I love how MyNetworkTV's website list it as the only network channel with all HD. ;P

PS I'm emailing beyondtv to have it added to the guide info for our area.

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeFan
Should I be getting anything else besides ABC or is it the only problem?
I have the older DISH NETWORK box, the 810 or something like that.
Can you get ABC?

Channel 9... ABC, is physical channel 35, and I havn't noticed any irregularities with their signal. Try a manual scan again tonight, and if you still can't get ABC, let us know.


Oh... there should also be another digital channel... I can't remember the physical channel... but I think it's known as channel 23. The Trinity Broadcast channel... a religious channel.

Puwaha

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Does anyone know if FOX is transmitting a signal that can be picked up? I was getting a signal strength of 86 on FOX, but my screen showed that the signal was lost. I re-scanned and it showed a signal at frequency 40 that the receiver could not lock on. There were no call letters associated with this signal, but I'm assuming it is FOX.

Are they having problems, or is it me? Is anyone getting the actual picture from FOX?

Thanks.

shrudge

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Hey Puwaha,

I did another scan and still nothing on frequency 35. Even if I try to manually add it, the reciever picks up nothing for signal.

This is the receiver that I have, (DISH Network DISH 811 HDTV Satellite Receiver / Tuner) if you do a search on that you will find it. Even more stange my father has the exact same box and setup along with one of my good friends and we all live several miles away. I live in Ft O, dad in Rossville, and friend in East Brainerd. None of us can pick up ABC like we used to. It dopped out for all of use about a month ago....... We all talked about it a assumed it was an ABC problem. Now I know everyone else is getting it fine. Is there a know issue with this box or something? I want to watch my college football in HD!!!!!!

CollegeFan

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrudge
Does anyone know if FOX is transmitting a signal that can be picked up? I was getting a signal strength of 86 on FOX, but my screen showed that the signal was lost. I re-scanned and it showed a signal at frequency 40 that the receiver could not lock on. There were no call letters associated with this signal, but I'm assuming it is FOX.

Are they having problems, or is it me? Is anyone getting the actual picture from FOX?

Thanks.
I'm having the same problem here.

smokey982

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrudge
Does anyone know if FOX is transmitting a signal that can be picked up? I was getting a signal strength of 86 on FOX, but my screen showed that the signal was lost. I re-scanned and it showed a signal at frequency 40 that the receiver could not lock on. There were no call letters associated with this signal, but I'm assuming it is FOX.

Are they having problems, or is it me? Is anyone getting the actual picture from FOX?

Thanks.
I'm in Ooltewah and getting Fox on channel 40.3 and MyTV on 40.5...actual picture, strength of 87

Tygerrz

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tygerrz
I'm in Ooltewah and getting Fox on channel 40.3 and MyTV on 40.5...actual picture, strength of 87
Right now? I live off Bill Reed Road in Collegedale and cannot lock the signal with my Dish Network 622. I have a signal strenth of 84 on channel 40, but no signal lock

srrobinson2

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdBrew
Does anyone know what channel the new Fox station is going to be? As posted above they now have channels on 40 and 61... I will need to email beyond tv to have the new channel's guide data added.

I think 40 forsure

kriscad

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by srrobinson2
Right now? I live off Bill Reed Road in Collegedale and cannot lock the signal with my Dish Network 622. I have a signal strenth of 84 on channel 40, but no signal lock
Right now. I have a SONY 60" with built-in tuner, don't have Dish Network. I get good signals on all local digital channels with just a small antenna inside house.

Tygerrz

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tygerrz
I'm in Ooltewah and getting Fox on channel 40.3 and MyTV on 40.5...actual picture, strength of 87
yep I'm getting it on 40.3 and 40.5 tonight also...

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by smokey982
I'm having the same problem here.

Do you happen to have a Dish 622 receiver?

This may be unique to this receiver. I previously had a similar problem with channel 12.

shrudge

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Ye, I have a 622.

smokey982

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I live in Cleveland and have a Dish 622 and 211 receiver. Did a scan last night twice and still showed FOX to be 61.1 but when I go to channel no signal. I found no new channels on my scans. Any suggestions?

yellowmattie

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I have now lost the signal for WTVC, ABC channel 9. No digital signal at all while scanning. Tried to manually add and got no signal.

Anyone else having the same problem?

shrudge

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrudge
I have now lost the signal for WTVC, ABC channel 9. No digital signal at all while scanning. Tried to manually add and got no signal.

Anyone else having the same problem?

Welcome to my world. NO ABC HD HELL!

CollegeFan

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

FYI-

Sent an email to Dennis Brown at Channel 9 and received this prompt response concerning lack of signal.

Thanks for your email. Yes, the problem is on our end, and we are
scrambling to get it fixed prior to the game. Something happened at our
transmitter site and caused the antenna line to fail.

Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for watching.


Hope they can get it fixed before the weekend.

shrudge

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by DonInTn
Rail,

Someone posted the other QAM channels a couple of pages back on this thread... If I remember correctly they were

ESPN 74.1
NBC 79.3
ABC 66.9
CBS 79.1-2
PBS 66.1-4
Okay, I'm late to the game but want to make sure I understand what QAM is and how it is available. Where do these channels appear? OTA, Digital Comcast, or SAT?

Bob Loblaw

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Is there anyone using a Dish Network 622 receiver that's able to lock in a picture for FOX61?

smokey982

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by smokey982
Is there anyone using a Dish Network 622 receiver that's able to lock in a picture for FOX61?
I'm not using a dish receiver, but it looked like WDSI was using the SD feed instead of the HD feed tonight. At least from 8-9 PM.

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

This is weird I live in Fort Oglethorpe and without a antenna I get CBS HD (sometimes it locks in and it always has strong signal strength) and ESPN HD but, none of the other channels. This is using straight cable to my QAM HDTV tuner. Now when I add my Phillips Amp powered antenna I get the other channels. Anyone know why the other channels won't come in on the straight cable setup? Oh almost forgot sometimes I get one of the PBS stations with straight cable too.

I've never seen WRCB, WDEF, WELF, FOX, 3 other WTCI channels and WFLI on the straight cable setup. Anyone know why? Signal strength is usually around 78-80% for those channels when I scan them.

WULFER

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by DonInTn
Just an update for those of you who are in the situation where your Dish/Direct TV box or MCE wouldn't tune to FOX. It seems that as of 12pm today, they are transmitting their PSIP info again. When I tuned via Fusion software I received the WDSI call sign and I could tune to Fox 40.1 via MCE and receive the station. I did not see the 40.2 MyNetwork via the Fusion software.
I got a message from Motley saying that the problem has been corrected. I can now pick up the HD and SD broadcasts (no MyNetwork), but the HD signal has significant dropout and loss. My 622 receiver indicates 80+% signal, but the picture has significant digital dropout every few seconds. WFLI has a lower strength and better picture...

Any ideas????

srrobinson2

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I just watched Prison Break with no problems. I'm also receiving MyNetworkTV fine.

This is on both my Pioneer receiver and my Fusion 5 USB tuner.

BTW they are now back to 61.1 and 61.2.

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I watched Prison Break & Vanished with no problems. It seems they still have a problem when they transmit SD content as I noticed some video dropouts/stuttering during the Presidental address and a few of the commercial breaks.

I guess I won't complain, as long as it stays up for more than 3 days this time

DonInTn

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

has anyone else noticed when tuning comcast QAM channels that there's a boat load of channels with programming on it now? Most of it is repeats though....for example I found no less than 8 different channels all with WRCB's digital main feed on it.

That is strange. I can't figure out a reason for it, but hopefully that's not an indication that we will have to continue to go searching for new channel assignments all the time.

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

one other question, what is the digital OTA channel assignment for WFLI?

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmessin
one other question, what is the digital OTA channel assignment for WFLI?
53.1 and 53.2.

I can't remember the actual channel that it is broadcast on off the top of my head.

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I just tried tuning Fox 61 over the air and got 61-1 but no 61-2.

The blocking, pixelating and seemingly signal drop appears to be not signal drop, but just plain screwy crap going on at Fox 61 when they are broadcasting non-network material (in other words, local stuff).

I've not seen any of these problems when watching a live football game or any of the primetime HD material being sent by Fox directly, which is good news.

If that means I can't watch the local Fox 61 news and commercials for the time being, I'm A-OK with that.

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

New QAM channel assigments as of this afternoon on Comcast:

WRCB-HD (NBC): 79-4
WTVC-HD (ABC): 66-5
WDEF-HD (CBS): 79-3
WTCI-HD (PBS): 66-1
WTCI-2 (PBS): 66-2
WTCI-3 (PBS): 66-3
WTCI-4 (PBS): 66-4
ESPN-HD: 74-1
WRCB-Weather: 79-2

actually, WRCB-HD is on about 30 different channels.

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmessin
I just tried tuning Fox 61 over the air and got 61-1 but no 61-2.

The blocking, pixelating and seemingly signal drop appears to be not signal drop, but just plain screwy crap going on at Fox 61 when they are broadcasting non-network material (in other words, local stuff).

I've not seen any of these problems when watching a live football game or any of the primetime HD material being sent by Fox directly, which is good news.

If that means I can't watch the local Fox 61 news and commercials for the time being, I'm A-OK with that.

Right! as long as I get the network in HD (House, 24, football, baseball etc.) I don't give a flying sh*t if I get the local stuff. The way it is now is just fine.

esaletnik

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Has anyone in this area (Cleveland/Chattanooga) ever had a professional come to their house and calibrate their HD set? If so, would you recomend them and did you notice a BIG difference in picture quality after it had been done? Thanks.

smokey982

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by smokey982
Has anyone in this area (Cleveland/Chattanooga) ever had a professional come to their house and calibrate their HD set? If so, would you recomend them and did you notice a BIG difference in picture quality after it had been done? Thanks.
I had a guy come in from Atlanta and do mine 3 years ago. I have a CRT based Toshiba HDTV. While there was improvement, with my eyes I didn't consider it to be worth the cash.

Of course it may have had something to do with me spending a lot of time prior to that with the AVIA disc doing as much calibration as I could on my own. So when it came time for the ISF calibration, all he really needed to get straight was the grayscale.

But I do have peace of mind knowing I'm getting the most out of my TV. So I guess that's something.

This is just my opinion though.

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I think I would stick to a good calibration DVD like the aforementioned Avia, and trust your own eyes.

I don't doubt that an ISF calibration would be great in theory, but spending 30 minutes to an hour doing yourself will be better in practice.

And while your are at it, the Avia disk has some decent 5.1 surround sound tests on it to balance our your speaker levels.


The Avia disc is well worth it to me. But you could always split the cost with a couple of other HDTV owning buddies. You really only need to tune up every few months or so, or if you move... or if your lighting conditions drastically change.

I think another well recommended calibration disc is called Video Essentials.

Puwaha

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I had Gregg Loewen from Lion AV calibrate a set for me. Gregg is from Maine but at the time did tours for calibrations. You can read about Gregg in many posts on AVS. I could tell a difference and I am no expert. Randy Tomlinson from Atlanta is now parternered with Gregg to do the Southeast. Randy is from Atlanta. Lion AV has a web site that you can probably get contact numbers from. If you cannot find contact numbers repost and I will get you the numbers.

yellowmattie

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Does anyone pickup the Fox broadcast in a watchable mode over the air? They have the weakest signal in town, and I can't pick up a strong enough signal to watch. Mine is pixelated and has constant breakup.

WDSI-DT - 84 kW
WTVC-DT - 200 kW
WTCI-DT - 200 kW
WELF-DT - 300 kW
WFLI-DT - 500 kW
WDEF-DT - 1000 kW

srrobinson2

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by srrobinson2
Does anyone pickup the Fox broadcast in a watchable mode over the air?
I'm in the E. Brainered Area with an large old UHF/VHF RadioShack antenna in the attic and I've received a watchable picture since they have fixed their PSIP info.

It drops out/pixalates a few times a show for a second, but it is watchable. This is however only during HD programming. SD seems to drop out significantly more for some reason, but I think that has to do with some problem on their end, and is not a "reception" issue.

DonInTn

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I ultimately decided to keep the Samsung HLS5088W I was trying out in August even though I have not yet been able to tune the local channels with the QAM tuner.

I have made a reservation with Eliab for a calibration next month. He is a frequent poster and I was surprised that he was planning a Southeast US tour. I have tried to calibrate it using my Digital Video Essentials disc but was not really satisfied with the results. For now I use the built in movie setting on the DLP for everything including sports and it looks plenty good for almost everything.

One advantage with his calibration is that Eliab owns the same series DLP as mine and he has extensive specialization for this particular brand and series of HDTV. His service includes making adjustments for every input via the service menu that I am reluctant to attempt.

He will be in the area in mid October and I don't have the specific date yet. It remains to be seen whether the cost is worth it but it is hard not to get excited when I read the breathless reviews from his customers on this forum. I'll let you know afterwards how it turns out, and if anyone needs a nice two year old Samsung HLN467 DLP, feel free to pm me.


Quote:
Originally Posted by smokey982
Has anyone in this area (Cleveland/Chattanooga) ever had a professional come to their house and calibrate their HD set? If so, would you recomend them and did you notice a BIG difference in picture quality after it had been done? Thanks.

Rail Baron

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by srrobinson2
Does anyone pickup the Fox broadcast in a watchable mode over the air? They have the weakest signal in town, and I can't pick up a strong enough signal to watch. Mine is pixelated and has constant breakup.
In Ooltewah I've been picking up Fox 61 OTA at about 80% with a small indoor antenna sitting on top of my wall unit.

As previously discussed, the dropouts you may be seeing are likely studio/transmitter equipment problems with Fox61, not your reception.

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmessin
New QAM channel assigments as of this afternoon on Comcast:

WRCB-HD (NBC): 79-4
WTVC-HD (ABC): 66-5
WDEF-HD (CBS): 79-3
WTCI-HD (PBS): 66-1
WTCI-2 (PBS): 66-2
WTCI-3 (PBS): 66-3
WTCI-4 (PBS): 66-4
ESPN-HD: 74-1
WRCB-Weather: 79-2

actually, WRCB-HD is on about 30 different channels.

Is this actually listed somewhere? And what is the QAM channel on 84.1?

Bob Loblaw

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Fox is gone from 90.3. Do they think this is some kind of game?

tamaran-2000

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Finally get fox here in Fort O

bchambers28

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by tamaran-2000
Fox is gone from 90.3. Do they think this is some kind of game?

I think you should have counted yourself lucky, as Comcast does not "officially" broadcast WDSI's digital channel.


It sounds like they were testing it... so it may be coming soon.

Puwaha

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
Is this actually listed somewhere? And what is the QAM channel on 84.1?
No, this was me going through the trouble of locating it myself and posting this list for everyone's benefit.

Not sure what's on 84.1 as I'm not at home right now to check. If it is what I think it might be, could be an on-demand assignment. I've seen several of those.

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmessin
GEAUX LSU Tigers!!!!
I can say with absolute certainty that the Tigers will win todays game.

esaletnik

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
Is this actually listed somewhere? And what is the QAM channel on 84.1?
Do the QAM channels move around? Do you have to chase them down, and like the question above, is there some official listing from comcast of these local stations anywhere?

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by rebkell
Do the QAM channels move around? Do you have to chase them down, and like the question above, is there some official listing from comcast of these local stations anywhere?
Yes, they move around from time to time.

Yes, you have to chase them down.

No, there's no official listing anywhere.

These are all reasons why when I find new channel assignments I post them here so that others don't have to go searching.

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmessin
Yes, they move around from time to time.

Yes, you have to chase them down.
No, there's no official listing anywhere.
These are all reasons why when I find new channel assignments I post them here so that others don't have to go searching.
I live in Athens, but we are considered Chattanooga Comcast, I was scanning the QAM stations this weekend and unfortunately they don't match what you have at all

I couldn't verify if we even had the local Networks or not, but I do remember that

ESPN-HD was on 22-1
Cartoon Network 74-8
Several On-Demand(I guess it was on-demand, it was showing Scary Movie 4) on 75-(24 thru 30)
PBS Kids 77-53
72-(17 thru 49) and 72-(60-70) were all Music Choice channels
A lot of the channels the auto-tune found were just black, I would guess those to be the encrypted ones?

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Joy WTVC-DT was missing dialog audio for the first 6.5 minutes of the show... OTA

How long does it take for these stations to figure this stuff out?

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by ColdBrew
Joy WTVC-DT was missing dialog audio for the first 6.5 minutes of the show... OTA

How long does it take for these stations to figure this stuff out?
Was Desperate Housewives weird last night? I have an HR10-250 HiDef Tivo that is almost two years old. It's hard drive is probably about half full of saved programs and I have a weird problem with my ABC OTA signal. It first happened in May on the Lost season finale. My Tivo is hooked up to my 5.1 home theatre. I was watching it the day after it aired and it was fine until right after the last commercial break. When Lost resumed, I had picture plus part of the background audio but no vocal track. In other words, no dialogue but ambient music was present, you know, the faint music that sets the mood of the scene that is in the background of most shows. If I recall the music was coming through the rear speakers only and I was watching it in 5.1. Being that it was a cliffhanger I was watching without part of my sound, I wanted to scream!

It hasn't done it all summer but last night I was recording Desperate Housewives and it happened again. Last night I turned on the set just before 9:00 pm then had a phone call. I came back downstairs about halfway into the show. I had all the audio and watched it for a moment. I then paused the live TV and rewound it so I could watch from the start. Suddenly I have picture and ambient music background channel but no dialogue again. Then I switched to the program as it was being recorded and I had the same problem. Arghh!

After it was through recording, I played it back and it had no audio at all, not even at the 9:20 pm point where I watched it for a moment before pausing and rewinding and it was fine at that point when I was watching it live.

It has only happened on ABC OTA which had a 93% (normal) signal strength last night. I would suspect WTVC but I know the audio was correct when I first came downstairs. The problem with Lost in May started for me just after a commercial break with about 10 minutes to go. I wish I'd thought to check the analog signal on cable but I am assuming this has to be some exotic problem with the HD Tivo.

Rail Baron

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by Rail Baron
Was Desperate Housewives weird last night? I have an HR10-250 HiDef Tivo that is almost two years old. It's hard drive is probably about half full of saved programs and I have a weird problem with my ABC OTA signal. It first happened in May on the Lost season finale. My Tivo is hooked up to my 5.1 home theatre. I was watching it the day after it aired and it was fine until right after the last commercial break. When Lost resumed, I had picture plus part of the background audio but no vocal track. In other words, no dialogue but ambient music was present, you know, the faint music that sets the mood of the scene that is in the background of most shows. If I recall the music was coming through the rear speakers only and I was watching it in 5.1. Being that it was a cliffhanger I was watching without part of my sound, I wanted to scream!

It hasn't done it all summer but last night I was recording Desperate Housewives and it happened again. Last night I turned on the set just before 9:00 pm then had a phone call. I came back downstairs about halfway into the show. I had all the audio and watched it for a moment. I then paused the live TV and rewound it so I could watch from the start. Suddenly I have picture and ambient music background channel but no dialogue again. Then I switched to the program as it was being recorded and I had the same problem. Arghh!

After it was through recording, I played it back and it had no audio at all, not even at the 9:20 pm point where I watched it for a moment before pausing and rewinding and it was fine at that point when I was watching it live.

It has only happened on ABC OTA which had a 93% (normal) signal strength last night. I would suspect WTVC but I know the audio was correct when I first came downstairs. The problem with Lost in May started for me just after a commercial break with about 10 minutes to go. I wish I'd thought to check the analog signal on cable but I am assuming this has to be some exotic problem with the HD Tivo.
Sorry. Yes I was refering to Desperate Housewives. It was missing all the dialog till about 9:06:30 PM.

And yes I also experiance the Lost episode losing dialog (along with others, it is listed in this thread somewhere). I had to download the Lost episode from the net to figure out what was said...

I'm using Fusion HD tuner and BeyondTV on a PC, so it isn't a Tivo thing. Except for you losing all the audio. Sounds like your Tivo got confused by the screw up from WTCI...

I didn't starting watching DH until about 30 minutes in or I would have seen how my Pioneer HD tuner was receiving it. But my guess is, the same as the fusion tuner...

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I'm pretty new to chattanooga and i've just bought a house over in Hixson, around Thrasher Pike area... and am looking into what I should do for HDTV. I've priced out Dish, DTV, and have comcast extened basic right now.

Here is what i've priced out for Dish, DTV

DIRECT TV
140 Channels, Local
Local HD
2 year commitment (so there are cancellation fees)

startup
+ FREE HD Receiver
+ HD Antenna for local HD
+ 3 DTV boxes
49.00

monthly
+ 49.99 plan
+ 9.99 HD Access
+ 14.97 Box Leases
-----------------
$118.95 1st month
$69.95 per month (next 3 months) $5 per month discount
$74.95 per month for 20 more months.

WITHOUT HD
$59.96 per month for first 4 months (same channels, no startup cost)
$64.96 per month for 20 more months


DISH NETWORK
100 Channels, Local
Local HD
1.5 year commitment (so there are cancellation fees)

startup
+ FREE DishNetwork HD DVR Receiver
+ 3 DNetwork boxes
0.00

monthly
+ 29.99 plan
+ 5.00 Local
+ 20.00 HD Access
+ 10.98 Box Leases
-----------------
$45.97 per month (first 6 months) $20 per month HD discount
$65.97 per month for 12 more months.

WITHOUT HD
$52.99 per month, 18 month commit (+100 more regular channels)

The only bad thing with dropping comcast would be that I'd have to get my internet through bellsouth DSL and I don't really know much about that. Even after all this, I'm not positive on what I should do... I'd have to get an antenna for local HD on both of these if I'm not mistaken. I could just upgraded to Comcast digital and get HD through that.

any thoughts on the 3 providers and what would be most cost effective to get the most for your money? any and all help is appreciated.

mister_rushing

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I live in the same area you do.
First, you should know that you can receive all local digital channels off-air for free. I'm doing this now to a Tivo Series 3 - which is nice because it integrates them into my Comcast lineup.
I'm pretty sure the Dish setup integrates antenna into their PVR as well.

Comcast will give you the best HD quality (less compression) vs. satellite which is known to compromise quality for quantity. However, it's expensive. If you have an old satellite receiver (or can get one) get the "Ditch the Dish" promotion from Comcast - best deal yet.

I had dish before HD and really liked it a lot. I find Comcast analog channel quality to be horrific. If you watch many non-digital channels - satellite will look better. If you watch mainly ABC, NBC, CBS, and digital channels then Comcast will be better.

You can keep your Cable modem service by dropping all but "lifeline" service. But that will still run about $48 a month just for Internet. The faster DSL will be a few dollars less.

When in doubt - go with Comcast as there are no contracts while you figure out exactly what you want to do.

Jagergeek

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I'd call Comcast and tell them that you are pulling cable for the dish, that AT&T is offering you a package deal for DirectTV/DSL/local telephone/long distance and that all you really want is the HD package with HD-DVR. Try to get to a supervisor - don't deal with the person who answered.

I did this and got a pretty sweet deal that includes the HDTV package and the HD-DVR for free for 12-months (on top of my extended basic cable). I'll decide what to do in 12-months thou' I'm pretty happy with the HD lineup provided by Comcast.

If you are not satisfied with the offer you get from the first person, hang up and call back. Keep trying to get what you want.

Bob Loblaw

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

What's up with Channel 9 WTVC-HD today, I just flipped over to the Oklahoma/Miami Football game and it's in SD, now it appears to be back in HD, what are they doing? I thought they had gotten all this flipping from SD to HD stuff fixed, but it appears they don't.

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

WTVC still at it, showing the Michigan/Oregon game in SD also.

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

I haven't had WTVCDT at all this evening, are they having difficulties or is it my local Comcast, it's been dead air all night on the HD station, is it working?

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

The antenna failed. It's currently off the air, no info on an ETA back to air.

--mws
http://www.scanchattanooga.com/

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Originally Posted by rebkell
I haven't had WTVCDT at all this evening, are they having difficulties or is it my local Comcast, it's been dead air all night on the HD station, is it working?

scanchattanooga

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by scanchattanooga
The antenna failed. It's currently off the air, no info on an ETA back to air.

--mws
http://www.scanchattanooga.com/
Thanks for the info, at least I know it isn't my cable, called them this evening and their systems are down and they couldn't tell me anything, I thought that was a bit weak, I would think a local HD station being off the air would be available information, but evidently not, he couldn't access a computer and he couldn't look up my billing information, I kept trying to tell him it wasn't anything to do with my account, I just wanted some information about WTVC-HD, but that was pretty much an exercise in futility I had some info for him, but I resisted telling him what it was.

Again, thanks for letting me know what is up or should I say down.

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Ok, i just saw Discover HD (NOT HD THEATER!) adverstised on Discovery Theater. The discovery packagte now has TLC hd, Animal Planet hd, Discovery hd, and Discovery Science hd. I've read up and see Dish, and Direct TV are both adding them (entire package) Oct 1.

You guys hear anything on whether or not Comcrap is adding them?

I love Discovery. I watch it more than any of my HD channels becuase i love so many of the shows.

PWNKAKE

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Is WTVC-HD still off the air? I receive it via OTA antenna and it has been off the last two days?

martyp999

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by PWNKAKE
Ok, i just saw Discover HD (NOT HD THEATER!) adverstised on Discovery Theater. The discovery packagte now has TLC hd, Animal Planet hd, Discovery hd, and Discovery Science hd. I've read up and see Dish, and Direct TV are both adding them (entire package) Oct 1.
Actully Dish has already added these channels. They have been on for a couple of weeks now. They look great.

smokey982

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by martyp999
Is WTVC-HD still off the air? I receive it via OTA antenna and it has been off the last two days?
Still off here, I assume everywhere. Any news or estimates of when it will be back up? I hope they get it going by the weekend.

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Hey there smokey just sent you a PM. Thanks for the heads up!

PWNKAKE

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Hi,

I recently bought a new TV. I don't have cable and so I've been trying out the digital signals available in our area. At first the picture looks great, but then after a few minutes (or sometimes seconds) the picture gets all blocky and freezes up. Is this because the digital signals haven't been perfected yet, or is it my TV?

Thanks

usedtobe

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Well, one simple possibility is that you're getting a weak signal. With digital, it's sort of an all or nothing deal. So, try adjusting/relocating your antenna. You may also need a BETTER antenna.

Good luck!

szfq93

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Thanks for the reply. I assumed the TV had an internal digital receiver. We don't have an external antenna of any kind attached to the TV. Is there such a thing as a digital antenna that would should buy and attach? The tv is in a basement room.

usedtobe

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Looks like they finally got WTVC going again, I noticed it was back on during Jeopardy tonight, it's had a few dropouts, but I guess that's to be expected. Just glad to see it back on.

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Any decent VHF antenna will do. [Other forum readers, pls share your expertise, in case I'm way off here!] Of course, there are MANY variables...

I think u can go to http://www.antennaweb.org to get help in picking an antenna.

szfq93

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by szfq93
Any decent VHF antenna will do. [Other forum readers, pls share your expertise, in case I'm way off here!] Of course, there are MANY variables...

I think u can go to http://www.antennaweb.org to get help in picking an antenna.
If your looking to pick up HD signals other than WRCB (channell 3), you will need a UHF/VHF antenna. Your locations warrants which antenna will work for you. I have ran the gammot on antennas!! Here is my list for your reading pleasure. I'm located on the backside of a ridge with no direct line of site to Signal Mtn (where the signal comes from).

1. Plain Jane VHF bunny ears/UHF loop = No Signal
2. Amplified #1 = Signal on Channel 3 (WRCB)
3. Channel Master 3014 = Same as #2 (very Directional)
4. Channel Master 3018 = Same as #2 + Channel 9
5. Channel Master 3020 = Same as #2 + Channel 9 + 53 + 23
6. RCA omni from wal-mart = Channel 12 +61 if i moved it around
7. Current = Disc looking Omni from RadioShack= All channels with adjustment


Good luck!!! If i can help let me know.

72ScoutNGa

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Hey Guys, anyone know how to get ESPNHD with a fusion card. I am in east ridge and I cant find it at all. The fusion software is terrible, and it wont let me just enter in a standard channel-subchannel format. Please help guys. I have been struggling with this for a while.

Thanks

Dieselhum

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

does anyone have any clue as to when DirecTV will begin transmitting Chattanooga HD local channels?

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Anyone else had a problem receiving WRCB on Comcast using QAM? I lost it a while back.

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by mister_rushing
I'm pretty new to chattanooga and i've just bought a house over in Hixson, around Thrasher Pike area... and am looking into what I should do for HDTV. I've priced out Dish, DTV, and have comcast extened basic right now.

Here is what i've priced out for Dish, DTV

any thoughts on the 3 providers and what would be most cost effective to get the most for your money? any and all help is appreciated.
What did you decide to do? Any better deals after your post?

Miatatom

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Anybody hearing any rumors concerning TBS-HD? It's disheartening, reading all the threads about Comcast customers getting TBS-HD, and nada thing here.

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by rebkell
Anybody hearing any rumors concerning TBS-HD? It's disheartening, reading all the threads about Comcast customers getting TBS-HD, and nada thing here.
which is exactly why I'm looking at DirecTV. I emailed Comcast and questioned them about adding HD channels that they have national carriage agreements with but yet to be added here and their response was that many things go into deciding when to add an HD channel, but mostly bandwidth and whether the market in a particular city dictates the addition. I wonder how they come to a conclusion about whether Chattanooga viewers are going to support TBS-HD or not.

They made up my mind. I have zero confidence that Comcast will add anything of significance anytime remotely soon here in Chattanooga. It's pretty clear to me....I have to go the DirecTV route.

Now, if they would only make things a tad bit easier by offering local HD channels via satellite and I'd jump now. Perhaps I should anyway and use the OTA signals.

wmessin

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmessin
which is exactly why I'm looking at DirecTV. I emailed Comcast and questioned them about adding HD channels that they have national carriage agreements with but yet to be added here and their response was that many things go into deciding when to add an HD channel, but mostly bandwidth and whether the market in a particular city dictates the addition. I wonder how they come to a conclusion about whether Chattanooga viewers are going to support TBS-HD or not.

They made up my mind. I have zero confidence that Comcast will add anything of significance anytime remotely soon here in Chattanooga. It's pretty clear to me....I have to go the DirecTV route.

Now, if they would only make things a tad bit easier by offering local HD channels via satellite and I'd jump now. Perhaps I should anyway and use the OTA signals.
I've always wondered how they determine anything, they have basically no way to judge anything, at least any that I can tell, they don't seem to communicate with the subscribers at all, and the only ones that can get any slack or consideration are new subs. I'm with you I'll be going the Directv route soon enough, I'll have to keep my internet and a basic sub, I need the QAM channels, because I have no shot at OTA where I'm at.

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Well, personally I'm against Comcast adding more HD stations because that means they will remove more analog channels. Unless they can come up with a cost effective way for me to record the digital stations I'm sticking with the analog channels. I don't believe they are many cable card PC tuners out, plus comcast charges you for each cable card (which you would need one for each tuner and TV in the house). Maybe if they would open all the none premium channels to unencrypted QAM that would be fine.

ColdBrew

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

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Originally Posted by ColdBrew
Well, personally I'm against Comcast adding more HD stations because that means they will remove more analog channels. Unless they can come up with a cost effective way for me to record the digital stations I'm sticking with the analog channels. I don't believe they are many cable card PC tuners out, plus comcast charges you for each cable card (which you would need one for each tuner and TV in the house). Maybe if they would open all the none premium channels to unencrypted QAM that would be fine.
I would love for them to open up the QAM SD channels, that would save them a ton of bandwidth, but it would really screw up 99% of the subscriber base, so I can't see them going digital anytime soon, and are they really that limited on bandwidth? If they really are, how are they going to overcome it? HD is coming and coming strong, aren't all current tvs supposed to have digital capability built in? I figure it will be like the cable ready tvs, everything after a while was cable ready, I suspect it will be the same soon concerning QAM capability on TVs.

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Is it just my perception or are we getting a lot less HD On Demand stuff lately? During the summer I could almost count on some new movies showing up on Fridays, now it seems like the list of available programs just keeps getting shorter and shorter. I'm in Athens so I may not have the same offerings as you guys in Chattanooga, just seems like they don't keep the server updated all the time. Lot of folders, but when you look inside them they are empty.

Just venting

rebkell

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Well as far TBS HD OR TV they don't have the braves anymore so why bother.

bluenight2007

Chattanooga, TN - HDTV

Coldbrew,

That sounds about right. Considering my less than optimum setup, old antenna in attic - ~40' run to basement, distribution amp then ~50 to tv card my signals range from a low of about 24 to 27-28 for the better channels and those in the 27-28 range do seem to be "on the edge" At that strength they lock with no dropouts, but during bad weather I do tend to have intermitent problems with dropouts. I'll have to run some tests the next time we have bad weather to see what kind of strength I have then.

Just curious to your system specs planning on running 3 fusions? My MCE box does fine but seems to be on the edge if I have it taping 2 SD programs with the NVTV tuners and recording 1 HD via the Fusion then I try to watch the HD program while it is recording.

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