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Question Albuquerque NM HDTV ( AVS Forum Local HDTV Info and Reception )
Updated: 2008-05-24 04:46:25 (5924)
Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hello Albuquerque HDTV viewers fans,

I just got a nice E-mail from KWBQ-TV, Anthony Liparoto of Engineering Manger saying KWBQ's transmitter will be moving to Sandia Crest and be on the air by October.

The digital verson will go on the air somtime after October!!

As for it's sister station KASY-TV digital plan is still unknown at this time but I will ask him on KASY-TV progress report.

Other than that not much else is going on here in the metro areas....

7-25-01

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Answers: Albuquerque NM HDTV ( AVS Forum Local HDTV Info and Reception )
Albuquerque NM HDTV

What's the number???

gibby

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Local: (505) 243-2285

Toll Free: (800) 283-4227

santa fe

Albuquerque NM HDTV

So at 1:50pm someone at KRQE turned on the HD switch for the basketball game. The person in the news room did promise to take care of it if he could.

santa fe

Albuquerque NM HDTV

I called, too. About 10 minutes ago.

gibby

Albuquerque NM HDTV

gibby, I think every little bit of pressure helps. They aren't exactly customer friendly in thier HD thinking.

santa fe

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Well, KRQE provided fairly consistent HD coverage of the regional finals. Without intending to go astray of the thread topic, may I simply make this comment on the quality of competition in those games: WOW!

IAM4UK

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Yes it appears CBS got their monies worth when they paid $420 million for the rights to the games as did most of the advertisers who purchased time. Watching the hard work, determination and attention to detail of the players and coaches could not help but put me in a mind to contrast them with the KRQE team.

Therein lays the Mysteries of KRQE.
1. In e-mails and phone conversations with several viewer/customers KRQE management maintained that enormous costs would have to be expended to be able to show Thursday’s and Friday’s NCAA games in HD. Some were told $1 million and others told $1.5 million. Yet after many complaints to KRQE and CBS Friday’s games were properly shown as were Saturday’s games.
2. KRQE management insists that very few viewers own HDTVS. Most of the people in my zip code have them and after shelling out $5-$15 thousand apiece want to use them and are vocal about doing so. They also are in a demographic that has some significant purchasing power as well as influential jobs in large companies that buy advertising; all factors KRQE overlook.
3. KRQE management keeps referring to large expenses with no gain to update their control room. These are capital expenditures that add to the equity value of the company and are depreciated over time. Eventually to comply with FCC requirements and to keep up with the competition they must make these capital improvements.
4. KRQE failed to carry the first game on Sunday in HD until viewers called to protest. Because of no other phone option the calls had to go to the news room staff who insisted that no engineering staff where on duty. Is it possible to run a TV station with no technical staff on site? To their credit they did ?flip the switch? for the second half and the following game.
5. Is there no management plan at the station to coordinate CBS HD programming with KRQE’S ability to show it?
6. Since they do carry the CBS prime time programming in HD does that mean that someone has to manually be available to make the control room changes?

Most importantly, how do we as viewers and customers bring KRQE management on board with the delights of HDTV viewing? We need them with us not against us.

santa fe

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Minor news update........

KOB-DT has filed to FCC for changes in transmit power and the antenna hight.

They will reduce the TX power 290 KW to 270 KW ERP and and make antenna go up little higher to get more ranges covereges.

It's up to FCC to approve it or not based on the CP file.

That's the news!!

4-1-05

N5XZS

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by N5XZS
Minor news update........

KOB-DT has filed to FCC for changes in transmit power and the antenna hight.

They will reduce the TX power 290 KW to 270 KW ERP and and make antenna go up little higher to get more ranges covereges.

It's up to FCC to approve it or not based on the CP file.

That's the news!!

4-1-05
How much higher are they going to raise it and what is the expected increase in range?

adb

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Just go to the FCC's website listed here.......

Http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs...d/app_sear.htm

Can't to get the link to work just go to www.fcc.gov and go from there.


Now go to service: and scroll down to Digital TV and click on it and go to state and type NM and then click on superseded applications and finally click on search once you get there just click on KOB-TV 4-1-05 this will show you the information on KOB-DT.

Hopes that helps

Have fun reading it!!

4-1-05

N5XZS

Albuquerque NM HDTV

I would like to see HD Closed Captions (CC) on WB (19.1) and now I've lost ABC (7.1) even on the Dish 811. The Dish 921 does not do 720p captions correctly if at all, thus no ABC or FOX (2.1) OTA but the 811 does.

I have line of sight of the towers with binoculars -- 49 miles. Captions on CBS (13.1) on the 921 are often delayed 4 seconds but I do not attribute that to the station.

Have we completely lost Nightly Business Report (NBR) starting yesterday?

KKlare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Really quite in here lately

spawnman

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Well, anyone else notice no KOB, last night?

I was wandering around, looking to see if any TV station had noticed that Comcast's entire US broadband network was down -- probably around 9 PM when I looked -- and there wasn't any KOB, 4-1.

I presume it was one of the usual gramlins.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

I saw Joey in HD last night and also Leno. Maybe it was Comcast's problem.

fjerina

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Well, I looked for it OTA. I wouldn't touch Comcast cable with someone else's 10-foot pole. Besides, they don't even offer HD, up here.

But, I only looked for a minute or two.

Comcast is such a trip. Their website lists a nation-wide outage for Internet Access -- that lasted almost 12 hours -- and no explanation, no nuttin'.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Yea I lost KOB last night also via OTA. Was back on this morning though

spawnman

Albuquerque NM HDTV

I can receive the two digital KNME Albuquerque channels located at UHF channel 35 on all three of my HD digital receivers. I have been told KNME transmits 4 additional digital channels on VHF channel 9, is this correct? I have not been able to find these four channels using any of my digital receivers. Since I live near the Four Hills area my VHF reception is sub-standard, that might explain it.
Comments?

Thanks Very In Advance
Regards
Ron

rrolsbe

Albuquerque NM HDTV

We live near Wyoming & Paseo Del Norte and pick up Digital 9-1, 9-2, 9-3 and 9-4 on our Dish 811's via UHF antennas.

jdmart

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hello Rrolsbe,

Since I am also live in Four Hills, and can't get KNMD-DT channel 9 as well too.

Because they are running at low power "200 watts ERP" at this time.

Reason why?

Not to overload KHCF's digital channel 10 running at 1.7 KW ERP till at time they move to Sandia Crest Mountain and then KNMD-DT can upgrade their transmitter power to 3.7 KW ERP give or take if I remember right on the TX power outputs.

But I think the KCHF-TV channel 11 is a church and snake oil health pill programings station is going to drag their feet for sometime, so it's like a chess game to me IMHO.


4-8-05

N5XZS

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Any of y'all who get your main feed from DirecTV -- and want to check on progress of the next satellite launch -- http://www.navigon.net/sl/

The bird just erected and guidance/launch control ship ready to follow-on. I think D* will probably show this one live, like the last shoot. Otherwise, you can follow the webcast.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Thanks JDMART for your post.

When you manally add a DTV channel using your 811 what channel do you enter?

IE Digital Channels 5-1 & 5-1 are found on UHF 35, where are digital channels 9-1 though 9-4 located?

Regards
Ron

rrolsbe

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hello Ron,

KNMD-DT is the real channel 9 VHF and that means no remapping channel. Also remember this station is running very low power at 200 watts ERP at this time.

Good luck getting that station!!

4-10-05

N5XZS

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by rrolsbe
Thanks JDMART for your post.

When you manally add a DTV channel using your 811 what channel do you enter?

IE Digital Channels 5-1 & 5-1 are found on UHF 35, where are digital channels 9-1 though 9-4 located?

Regards
Ron
Sorry, don't know; they were added on a "Digital Scan."
You may have to call the station unless someone else on this forum knows. I'll let you know if I find out.

To change channels directly on the 811 I enter 0091, 0092, 0093 & 0094
(0051 & 0052 for 5.1 & 5.2).

jdmart

Albuquerque NM HDTV

What's with FOX. I was watching "24" on FOX last night over-the-air over their digital channel and several times I got "acquiring signal" from my Dish receiver. Is their signal not that good or is something wrong with it?

fjerina

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Sounds good. Who knows how far off it will be or who else will carry it by the time it launches. Directv is just aggreeing to carry anything it can in order to keep its hype up. DirectV also announced it will be carrying an HD test pattern channel featuring 24/7 test patterns in its hopes to reach 100 channels. Also announced today was the HD Yulelog fireplace channel.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by N5XZS
I think Directv will beat the pants out of Dish and Comcrap in terms of number of HD channels if they play their card right.
nope, DIRECTV won't beat the pants off DISH Network. DISH has some sats coming up to increase their bandwidth and DIRECTV and DISH have the vast majority of the same programming contracts so DIRECTV and DISH should have pretty much the same HD offerings. The big HD offering I can think that DIRECTV will have that DISH won't -- at least initially but probably never -- is Big 10 network and YES Network (FWTW).

edwardacampbell: good to see confirmation that DIRECTV is runnnig DVB-S2 with approx 61 mbps per transponder. 10mbps for a H.264 HD-lite channel seems right from the few H.264 HD transmissions I've noticed on the programmer to cable/dbs distribution end of things. And, yes, they do use dynamic bandwidth - on a transport stream analyzer, you can see the video streams increase and decrease in bitrate as the bandwidth is allocated where needed for motion or where not needed as much for more static moments in a video scene. some of the bandwidth is wasted due to the dynamic allocation thing (I believe the industry calls it "stuffing bytes" - it's a buffer that keeps the datarates of all the video, audio, digital format (i.e. DVB, ATSC, DVB-S2, etc.) definition info streams, and other miscellaneous datastreams from exceeding the total datarate of the digital signal). So 6 HD-lite H.264 streams running around 10 mbps with a little bit of stuffing bytes room per transponder using DVB-S2 makes sense.

I'm still looking to get a DIRECTV Ka-band dish/lnb cheap to do transport stream analysis, but I'm sure my wait will be long as it seems DIRECTV users are gobbling up those dishes to receive DIRECTV 10 with -- or I'm just looking the wrong place by hanging out on a certain auction site hoping to pick one up cheap.

jdmart:

FNC HD is news to me... it's probably a couple months off as 1) I didn't see it in the HD channel scan I just completed with my large backyard dish looking for the distribution feeds of programmers to cable headends and DBS uplinks, and 2) FNC is changing their distribution format to cable headends and DBS uplinks within the next couple months, so it would make sense to not only convert the delivery format of the SD to cable/dbs, but add their HD feed to the distribution chain to headends at the same time.

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

What are the prospects for FNC HD on Dish?

moonhawk

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by moonhawk
What are the prospects for FNC HD on Dish?
Just speculating...I think the odds are good because of the competition. However, FNC HD probably won't be cheap for Dish since FNC is still consistenly beating all of the cable news competition in the Nielsen ratings. So there could be some serious negotiating.

Nielsen Cable News Ratings

jdmart

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigglare
Personally I don't understand why carriers still carry SD versions of channels that they have in HD that are simulcast. Why have TLC, Discovery, TNT, HBO and such when the HD is the exact same. Simply drop the SD channel and only carry the HD. Require customers to get HD receivers or cable boxes that will display these hd channels in 480i/p which most tvs should handle.

I just want someone to offer an HD only package. I dont want any SD channels, which I do not watch. Just give me the HD and only the HD.
If I'm not mistaken, the SD feed is not exactly the same as the HD. In many cases they are actually showing the "Full Screen" version of the movie at the same time as the "Widescreen Version" on the respective feeds. In the same vein if you by a full screen DVD it is acually a "pan-and-scan" edit where some techies pick out what they consider the most useful part of each scene to include. Personally I've gotten so addicted to HD that is hard to watch stuff that isn't.



Dave.

PlacitasDave

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Yup, the wife even noticed it a couple of nights ago. We were watching the Tim Janis Coastal America and the wife (who is not an HDTV fanatic) said "that looks really bad".

I had my best "Dwight Schrute" grin on in an instant!

ibglowin

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Believe it or not, Comcast is claiming their hd picture is superior to sat's; even have an independent test to convince us. You will have to fill in a small form, but click this link to see their claims: http://www.comcast.com/hdchallenge/?...1TO1Q3GOOGLE38
JR

jerrich

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by PlacitasDave
If I'm not mistaken, the SD feed is not exactly the same as the HD. In many cases they are actually showing the "Full Screen" version of the movie at the same time as the "Widescreen Version" on the respective feeds. In the same vein if you by a full screen DVD it is acually a "pan-and-scan" edit where some techies pick out what they consider the most useful part of each scene to include. Personally I've gotten so addicted to HD that is hard to watch stuff that isn't.



Dave.
And Grass is a different color from the sky hopefully, unless we suddenly have bigger issues. Watching boston legal in SD vs HD is still Boston legal. But all those pathetic non-hd housholds, 10 years after the start of the transition, can now expirience television thats like watching a DVD. They can get the DVD expirience just by watching their favorite TV show. Get crisp widescreen video, dolby 5.1 surround sound (where available) for all your favorite shows.

Its like when you buy a DVD that has the full screen and widescreen versions of the same movie on opposite sides of the disc. Lately studios are using a double sided single layer disc so you only get a low bitrate version of the movie on either side. Sure you could put a high bitrate version on a 2 disc DVD-9 set but they do the doublesided DVD-5.

If cable and Satellite providers dropped the SD channel and just carry the Widescreen HD version, they can save money in carriage fees (with negotiations) and offer the channel in its best possible quality, and have room for more channels.

Why should we have the SD TLC or Discovery or History, when the same program is on the HD channel? Pay TV is becoming Bloat TV. Paying for channels we never watch.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

It still comes down to bandwidth.

D10 adds a ton of bandwidth for D*. They're insane if they don't offer available HD channels in their full capability when it lights up for consumers. That's within next week or so.

E* next bird [I believe] is to launch same time as D11 = Nov-Dec. Until then, E* can't provide anything other than HD-lite. Same as D* until D10 is online.

Add: Chuckling over anticipation! The tech thread where it's just folks like sthscan discussing the GSO of D10 - just passed 200,000 pageviews.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by edwardacampbell
E* next bird [I believe] is to launch same time as D11 = Nov-Dec. Until then, E* can't provide anything other than HD-lite. Same as D* until D10 is online.
I think everything will be in HD-lite for a while on both providers and even cable (since you are going to have all sorts of programmers launching HD feeds of their SD services, not just the big corporate pay-tv services). If you were going to tell me only the 100 most watched cable services would launch HD feeds, then it would make things more likely to go full HD at some point in the near future.

moonhawk:

as for FNC HD on DISH, very likely (since FNC SD is on DISH, chances are great that DISH can negotiate carriage of FNC HD, or the recent DISH contract with FNC may have included a clause that gives DISH license to carry the HD feed when made available).

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibglowin
Yup, the wife even noticed it a couple of nights ago. We were watching the Tim Janis Coastal America and the wife (who is not an HDTV fanatic) said "that looks really bad".
I'm not too convinced it's KNME's fault (the station's reworking of the PBS-HD distribution feed to transmit on 5-1).

Even on satellite, some shows on PBS-HD look great and some shows look cruddy (one vivid one I can think of was a show that had a pan of a mountain scene, and the scrubbrush in th foreground was jaggedy and jerky during the pan). That kind of moment makes me think the show in question wasn't shot in HD but just in SD widescreen or else the video transfer to "HD" was crummy. Shows that I believe are truly shot in HD look awesome on PBS-HD satellite and 5.1 terrestrial.

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

"If you were going to tell me only the 100 most watched cable services would launch HD feeds, then it would make things more likely to go full HD at some point in the near future. - sthscan"

From what is mentioned online by various providers, I don't think more than 70-80 content providers are ready for the fall-winter season. That's why I think all the sat subscribers will end up with full HD - by January for E*, in a week or two for D*.

The "problems" at KNME, I believe, lie pretty much at the feet of management not engineering. Earlier on, this year, a few of us rec'd emails back from staff confirming that position. They may not be allowed to respond so publicly nowadays.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by sthscan
I'm not too convinced it's KNME's fault (the station's reworking of the PBS-HD distribution feed to transmit on 5-1).

Even on satellite, some shows on PBS-HD look great and some shows look cruddy (one vivid one I can think of was a show that had a pan of a mountain scene, and the scrubbrush in th foreground was jaggedy and jerky during the pan). That kind of moment makes me think the show in question wasn't shot in HD but just in SD widescreen or else the video transfer to "HD" was crummy. Shows that I believe are truly shot in HD look awesome on PBS-HD satellite and 5.1 terrestrial.
I think the problem is two fold. One its lack of bandwidth, but also some programs seem to be upscaled from standard def. I say this because even back in the 1080i days some shows on KNME looked night and day better than others.

lobosrul

Albuquerque NM HDTV

well, DISH network are now "racists" in a sense.

Adding Big Ten Network (SD on 439 and HD on 9467!) while not having the mtn. We're going to get price increases in 2008 for DISH Network service and we in non-big 10 states lose BTN in January unless we move to a Big 10 state. So I'm going to be paying for BTN but not receiving it, so they better have the mtn. or make larger price increases for people in Big 10 states than they do in non-big 10 states.

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

We're getting Big ten? sweet. Not that I watch it but it does take one more away from Directv. Besides does MTN even have HD service?

And take out that Racist BS there's nothing racist or "racist" about it. MTN just smaller station, smaller market, and less demand, and isnt in HD, just Business. Sorry about being such a moronist, just irks me when people throw the racist card around, you might as well cry wolf.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/08/31...o-gets-leaked/
reading over at engadget from Cedia, the new DVR from D doesn't have OTA tuners. The end of CBS HD for Directv subs if this keeps up. Unless of course they step up and buy the rights from lin.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

D* started broadcasting Big 10, last week. Haven't watched it, either; but, I imagine it will stay SD till they light up D10.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

HR21 Pro - which is aimed at the tiniest demographic of HD subscribers btw - is like most HD receivers and DVR's that will be coming down the pike. Why put OTA reception into your sat receiver when all new HDTV's are required to have OTA receivers?

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Just checked with folks beta-testing the H21 [non-DVR-model, non-Pro model] and reminded my poor brain that D* is switching over the "SWM" diplexing module on feeds from the dish. That will include OTA is the general opinion. Don't know. I haven't been doing any of the latest hardware betas.

All D* systems will be based on one cable coming to each receiver in your home. That one cable will carry everything for all services.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Sort of like Dish is doing already?

I remember my biggest complaint with comcast is when I wanted to watch CBS or CW I had to go watch through the TVs tuner rather than through the $85 a month cable service I was paying for. And if I wanted to record from those channels I had to kiss the HD goodbye. With the OTA built into the satellite receiver I have all the locals available to watch and record using the DVR either from satellite or the OTA tuner. Which is a big plus in my book.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Except comparatively unlimited number of receivers. The current test SWM allows for 8 receivers. Current models all the way back to legacy SD.

Both D* and E* members at dbstalk often prefer the OTA receivers built-in to their HD sets - broader access to better signals. And that fits what a TV set manufacturer would have to build-in.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Consensus on that "Pro" is to ignore it. It appears to be designed to be part of rack-mounted HT systems - not for consumers or even prosumers. I guess they bumped the size of the HD to make it a selling point; but, we already have an eSATA port with folks running multiple terabyte RAID, now.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigglare
<snip>... With the OTA built into the satellite receiver I have all the locals available to watch and record using the DVR either from satellite or the OTA tuner. Which is a big plus in my book.
Amen, brother. I want the EPG, trick play and DVR timers for all my OTA stations. That's why I don't use a different ATSC tuner.

.....G

guruka

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Two BT games in HD on Dish this weekend! Channel 9467.

Jim5506

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by edwardacampbell
D* started broadcasting Big 10, last week. Haven't watched it, either; but, I imagine it will stay SD till they light up D10.
Yep, Big 10 was lit up on DIRECTV last week (DISH didn't have carriage rights until Thursday or so this week, just in time for week #2 of the network).

The good thing is that DIRECTV can keep talking about BIG 10 Network in HD, while DISH will have Big 10 Network in HD - at least a game in HD from BTN.

Keep up the talk DIRECTV, DISH just shuts up and takes action!

---

bigglare: yes, the mtn. doesn't have HD yet. and, yes, DISH is kinda "racist" as they satisfied the big 10 people, but are discriminating against the MWC people that are pretty passionate about our teams. I hate to think my bill is going up next year for a channel i'm not going to have in my package starting in january.

You know Charlie will have the SEC channel when it launches since his UT is in that league. So Charlie should carry all conference channels and provide them on a regional basis like they will starting with BTN in January.

I"ll feel better about things if people in Big 10 country have more of a price increase than I do, or if the mtn. is substituted for BTN as a channel included standard in my AT100 package.

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

I had a larger commentary here; but, over the 24 years I've been online, I wasted precious little time on fanboys. I'm not about to start.

edwardacampbell

Albuquerque NM HDTV

I guess Dish is also a "Newist" for not offering CNN-HD or Fox News-HD and discriminating against anyone who isnt a fan of the HD News channel in VOOM. Ohh and I guess they are discrimating against people who are not native to any particular place. they discriminating against a cheesehead like me by not letting me have my Milwaukee channels and only offering me albuquerque channels.

Some people like to throw titles and terms around with no real meaning to them like racist refering to a satellite company that currently offers one reginonal sports network and not another. Its not Discrimination not to carry a channel business. Maybe Dish is in cahoots with Islamo-fascist-ComCast-Fanboys? lol. not to say Comcast fan boys are anything other than dedicated.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

More interesting news about Albuquerque' TV market from Broadcasting and Cable.com .

Have fun reading!!

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6476840.html

As for debate on Directv and Dish and even Comcast by calling it racist, it's prettly lame IMHO, and I hope that we don't get carry it away, so please stay nice to each other!

Bigglare said:
They discriminating against a cheesehead like me by not letting me have my Milwaukee channels and only offering me albuquerque channels.

As for getting out of town TV market or a next door TV market then we must contact our congress critters to changes the law.

Here one proposed bill called H.R. 2821 and here's the link.....

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90570

http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills...0_HR_2821.html

Well it's like lots of work to do changes the law, so just spread the word out to everyones out there.

Now back to TV DXings!!

9-10-07

N5XZS

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hey it's a slow week. Those racists over at comcast havent done anything worth talking about. Directv is still talking about doing something sometime. And Im too busy watching all the new HD channels on Dish and my new Toshiba HDDVD player I got at Best Buy this weekend for $229 thanks to a Pricematch with Amazon.com.

I must say I am glad to see that I can still watch King Kong, (one of the two movies I picked out) in full 1080i hd on my 2003 Mitsubishi Diamond series HDTV that is Pre-HDMI/HDCP. I also got Flags of our Fathers, But havent opened that one yet.

As for upscaling I noticed that it wont upscale a DVD to 1080 through component unless I rip and copy the movie first. At least blanks are cheap.

As far as the new law goes that wont help me get my Milwaukee or Greenbay channels way down here in Albuquerque. Thats just so that if you live way out in northern NM and fall into the Denver market even though you live in New Mexico. The law will allow you as a new Mexico resident to get New Mexico channels via satellite even though you live in an out of state market. The key is adjacent market. New Mexico isnt adjacent to Milwaukee or Green Bay markets. So they are still discriminating against me. hee hee

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigglare
Hey it's a slow week. Those racists over at comcast havent done anything worth talking about. Directv is still talking about doing something sometime. And Im too busy watching all the new HD channels on Dish and my new Toshiba HDDVD player I got at Best Buy this weekend for $229 thanks to a Pricematch with Amazon.com.

I must say I am glad to see that I can still watch King Kong, (one of the two movies I picked out) in full 1080i hd on my 2003 Mitsubishi Diamond series HDTV that is Pre-HDMI/HDCP. I also got Flags of our Fathers, But havent opened that one yet.

As for upscaling I noticed that it wont upscale a DVD to 1080 through component unless I rip and copy the movie first. At least blanks are cheap.

As far as the new law goes that wont help me get my Milwaukee or Greenbay channels way down here in Albuquerque. Thats just so that if you live way out in northern NM and fall into the Denver market even though you live in New Mexico. The law will allow you as a new Mexico resident to get New Mexico channels via satellite even though you live in an out of state market. The key is adjacent market. New Mexico isnt adjacent to Milwaukee or Green Bay markets. So they are still discriminating against me. hee hee
It was nice to see the Packers nationally televised this week though. Where in Wisconsin are you from?

Scary to admit we're from the same state. Maybe now that you have some new hdm to watch you won't have the time to be complaining as much though.

Monger

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Milwaukee.

I dont complain. I advocate.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tillyvick
NBC Sunday Night Football in 1080i is almost unwatchable for me because of all the motion pixelation and blur, does anyone else have this issue?
I wouldn't say it's unwatchable, but just not as clear and sharp as Fox

spawnman

Albuquerque NM HDTV

PBS Alert!!!!

Just saw these two shows posted:

First up is:
Stevie Ray Vaughan Live: Play Hard and Floor It!
9:30 PM, 1 hr 30 min
Sat 11/24/2007
KNME-DT2 5.2 (35)

Second is:
Great Performances
Eric Clapton Crossroads Guitar Festival Chicago (New) 7:00 PM, 2 hrs
Wed 11/28/2007
KNME-HD 5.1 (35)

Both I think are supposed to be new. Unfortunately it looks like the SRV is not in HD, but at least Clapton is.

Weird, earlier discussions here stated that they only show HD content on Saturday evenings which is when SRV is scheduled. So who knows. Either way, two very good concerts.

spawnman

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Stevie Ray Vaughan - unlikely to be in HD, not necessarily because it may not have been remastered/reworked into HD, but because it appears to be a "KNME Member Favorites" program and not a regularly scheduled national PBS program this week.

Great Performances Clapton should be in HD and aired several times (I count up to six) throughout the week since it is a national PBS program this week.

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tillyvick
NBC Sunday Night Football in 1080i is almost unwatchable for me because of all the motion pixelation and blur, does anyone else have this issue?
the only problem I have terrestrially is how the "mesh" below the NBC score line looks (it doesn't seem to encode very well, but it's only a filler in the picture and not important content.

The important part of the content looks fine enough to me, but I prefer the 35 mbit game source signal to the 15 mbit or so terrestrial game signal.

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

The build up all week long for the premier of The Incredibles in HD was.... well incredible.

Imagine what it felt like to turn it on and watch it in beautiful 4:3 SD.


That was amazing guys way to go!!!!!!!!!!

ibglowin

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibglowin
The build up all week long for the premier of The Incredibles in HD was.... well incredible.

Imagine what it felt like to turn it on and watch it in beautiful 4:3 SD.


That was amazing guys way to go!!!!!!!!!!
Looks to have been full HD in other markets.....a real missed opportunity to trumpet KOB's HD capabilities with an "A" list title. And the Macy's Parade looked so good earlier in the day......

Then again, anyone that could sit through a network broadcast commercial fest like what we got last night is a better man than I! The family watched about a 1/2 hour's worth, of which I would wager at least 20 minutes were commercials.

Putting aside the fact that it was not HD, last night's Incredibles broadcast did more to promote the need for a DVR than any Tivo commercial could ever do.

Brian

BGLeduc

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Curious to know:

Was the Thursday night NFL game available in HD on Comcast last night?

I'm going to split whatever the cost of getting NFL Network is with my dad and watch both Cowboys games that are on that channel at his place.

lobosrul

Albuquerque NM HDTV

They claimed that was the feed they were getting from the NBC network. I asked then why were they showing full high def commercials all week long for the incredibles?

No answer..............

Quote:
Originally Posted by BGLeduc
Looks to have been full HD in other markets.....a real missed opportunity to trumpet KOB's HD capabilities with an "A" list title. And the Macy's Parade looked so good earlier in the day......

Then again, anyone that could sit through a network broadcast commercial fest like what we got last night is a better man than I! The family watched about a 1/2 hour's worth, of which I would wager at least 20 minutes were commercials.

Putting aside the fact that it was not HD, last night's Incredibles broadcast did more to promote the need for a DVR than any Tivo commercial could ever do.

Brian

ibglowin

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibglowin
They claimed that was the feed they were getting from the NBC network. I asked then why were they showing full high def commercials all week long for the incredibles?

No answer..............
I know nothing about how KOB gets their network feeds, but unless many of the posters in this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=941519 are lying, I wish KOB could have gotten on the list to get the "good" feed!

But again, it would have looked pretty, but with commercials every 10 minutes, its not much fun to watch.

Brian

BGLeduc

Albuquerque NM HDTV

With the recent discussions about video quality on the local broadcast stations, I decided to measure the actual bitrate of the OTA transport streams using TSReader Light v2.8.46a.

Albuquerque DTV Bitrate table

Channel Resolution Bitrate Null Packet*

KASA-DT 2.1 1280 x 720p 16.38 Mbps 2.81 Mbps

KOBDT1 4.1 1920 x 1080i 16.37 Mbps .55 Mbps
KOB-WX 4.2 720 x 480i 1.76 Mbps

KNME-HD 5.1 1920 x 1080i 12.26 Mbps .19 Mbps
KNME-SD 5.2 720 x 480i 2.84 Mbps
V-me 5.3 720 x 480i 2.77 Mbps

KOAT-DT 7.1 1280 x 720p 11.99 Mbps 6.87 Mbps

KRQE-DT 13.1 1920 x 1080i 17.39 Mbps 1.52 Mbps

KWBQ-HD 19.1 1920 x 1080i 12.51 Mbps 6.25 Mbps

KASY-HD 50.1 1920 x 1080i 12.18 Mbps 6.69 Mbps

With KOB transmitting at 16.27 Mbps you would think that the picture quality would be better. KOAT, KNME, KWBQ and KASY low bitrates are disgraceful IMHO. I would like to hear from the station engineers about the rational for using such low bitrates. When KNME first started transmitting HD, picture quality was excellent. With of two additional subchannels the quality is now very disappointing.

*If no packets are available at the multiplexor (low bitrate in the program streams), it inserts null packets to retain the specified TS bitrate of 19.39Mbps. The audio and PID bitrates have not been included in the table above.

jbcline

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by lobosrul
Was the Thursday night NFL game available in HD on Comcast last night?
I didn't know comcast had the NFL Network - I thought they were still holding out on adding the channel.

It's at least in HD on other platforms, tho. Cowboys/pack going to be a good game (and if all plays out right, could be a preview of the NFC Championship game).

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

The Family Man was supposed to be in HD last night. KOB gave us 4:3 SD once again.

We were tuned out watching Hairspray on Blu-Ray

ibglowin

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibglowin
The Family Man was supposed to be in HD last night. KOB gave us 4:3 SD once again.

We were tuned out watching Hairspray on Blu-Ray
I don't know what's wrong with KOB but Sean seems to be missing these opportunities. It's been numerous times now that I would have watched something on KOB had it been on HD. I also started to watch "The Family Man" and then found out it wasn't in HD, so tuned somewhere else.

lujan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbcline
With the recent discussions about video quality on the local broadcast stations, I decided to measure the actual bitrate of the OTA transport streams using TSReader Light v2.8.46a.

Albuquerque DTV Bitrate table

Channel Resolution Bitrate Null Packet*

KASA-DT 2.1 1280 x 720p 16.38 Mbps 2.81 Mbps

KOBDT1 4.1 1920 x 1080i 16.37 Mbps .55 Mbps
KOB-WX 4.2 720 x 480i 1.76 Mbps

KNME-HD 5.1 1920 x 1080i 12.26 Mbps .19 Mbps
KNME-SD 5.2 720 x 480i 2.84 Mbps
V-me 5.3 720 x 480i 2.77 Mbps

KOAT-DT 7.1 1280 x 720p 11.99 Mbps 6.87 Mbps

KRQE-DT 13.1 1920 x 1080i 17.39 Mbps 1.52 Mbps

KWBQ-HD 19.1 1920 x 1080i 12.51 Mbps 6.25 Mbps

KASY-HD 50.1 1920 x 1080i 12.18 Mbps 6.69 Mbps

With KOB transmitting at 16.27 Mbps you would think that the picture quality would be better. KOAT, KNME, KWBQ and KASY low bitrates are disgraceful IMHO. I would like to hear from the station engineers about the rational for using such low bitrates. When KNME first started transmitting HD, picture quality was excellent. With of two additional subchannels the quality is now very disappointing.

*If no packets are available at the multiplexor (low bitrate in the program streams), it inserts null packets to retain the specified TS bitrate of 19.39Mbps. The audio and PID bitrates have not been included in the table above.
Its nice to see the carriage fee's from Cable One are helping KRQE provide the best and highest bitrate of the locals. Imagine what they could do with fees from Comcast and satellite providers. Fire up those Emails.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

KOAT said on TV they have a big announcement on Monday. It was leaked to a friend of mine that they will be going HD for their local news shows!!!

Just kidding, I just wish that's what the announcement will be. One can dream.

fjerina

Albuquerque NM HDTV

KOB gave us the rerun of The Incredibles in HD last night.

I guess the pressure of the big football game on KOAT at the same time was just too much to withstand and someone made the hard management decision to expend the extra 1.27 Gigawatts of energy and give us some high def programming finally.......

Guess we need more football games on at the same time as the movies!

ibglowin

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibglowin
KOB gave us the rerun of The Incredibles in HD last night.

I guess the pressure of the big football game on KOAT at the same time was just too much to withstand and someone made the hard management decision to expend the extra 1.27 Gigawatts of energy and give us some high def programming finally.......

Guess we need more football games on at the same time as the movies!
I too watched this Saturday HD version of The Incredibles and it looked, well... Incredibly Good!

Avio

Avio

Albuquerque NM HDTV

I recorded it on my EyeTV 500. Out of 150 minutes of total run time they put in 44 minutes of commercials!

I just cut out all the commercials and the movie itself was only 86 minutes. The best part (ha!) was the Powerball ad timed perfectly during the hovercraft chase sequence. The movie was put into a tiny picture in picture while the Powerball drawing was the ginormous rest of the picture. This went on for a full minute!

Oh well guess this will have to do until the Blu-Ray version comes out later in 2008.

ibglowin

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by fjerina
KOAT said on TV they have a big announcement on Monday. It was leaked to a friend of mine that they will be going HD for their local news shows!!!

Just kidding, I just wish that's what the announcement will be. One can dream.
Ideas I have:

1) Christine Jones joins the 10pm news team, replacing doug fernandez, so I can see 2 cuties anchoring the news Su-Friday

2) Cynthia Izaguirre gets engaged (breaking my heart.

3) longtime "talent" Joe Diaz leaves KOAT-TV (tho it would be a copy cat of Carla Aragon leaving KOB, which is really sad but understandable.)

4) Crybaby Nelson Martinez joining KOAT (and if he quickly doesn't get a 10pm news anchor job, he'll quit as quickly as he joins the station).

5) KOAT expanding all 10 pm newscasts to one hour (with noone caring about Leno and Letterman repeats, why not!)

6) KOAT actually re-airs complete 10pm newscasts for once (it ticks me off that I watch the 1am replays of KOAT every night and the Sunday night 1 hour replay is butchered and not re-aired in its entirety and I've written station management a few times to quit messing around with the re-air so they can show lame teenage acme infomercials after the re-air)

7) With all the KOAT promo hype about the announcement, it could be something lame (surprise! KOAT adds 5 more minutes of commercials in the 10pm newscast, for instance).

I definitely hope it's KOAT launching an HD newscast, and if not, I want #1 or #3 to come true.

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by sthscan
I didn't know comcast had the NFL Network - I thought they were still holding out on adding the channel.

It's at least in HD on other platforms, tho. Cowboys/pack going to be a good game (and if all plays out right, could be a preview of the NFC Championship game).

I have always heard the same regarding Comcast and NFL Network. I understand the dispute is whether NFL network should be in the "Basic Tier" or an "optional tier". But Comcast website shows NFL Network as channel 275 included in the Digital Sports Package for $5.00 a month along with 11 other channels. I would expect it would also include NFLHD if you subscribe to the HD channels.

PlacitasDave

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by fjerina
KOAT said on TV they have a big announcement on Monday. It was leaked to a friend of mine that they will be going HD for their local news shows!!!

Just kidding, I just wish that's what the announcement will be. One can dream.

Well, I missed it. What was the big announcement on KOAT?

Ryan

reklund

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by reklund
Well, I missed it. What was the big announcement on KOAT?

Ryan
Cynthia is going back to Dallas. Not really a BFD

---Kevin

Kevin R

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin R
Cynthia is going back to Dallas. Not really a BFD

---Kevin
makes sense considering that is where her family is (mom and siblings).

Christine Jones, Christine Jones, Christine jones (new 10pm anchor, please!!!!)

BTW, my HD local news pool money is still with KRQE/KASA as first local news on the air in HD. The way their SD pic looks, I have to think they have a lot of the infrastructure from a studio standpoint already in place since they have the best looking SD studio shots and graphics of any local news.

sthscan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

HA I new it was too good to be true. Oh well still no local HD news.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin R
Cynthia is going back to Dallas. Not really a BFD

---Kevin
Geeze, KOB didn't have any kind big build up when they announced Carla was leaving. Of course we have to see weeks of best of Carla clips coming up, but at least no stupid BIG announcement run-up.

Who Cares

spawnman

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hi Albuquerque folks! I will be transfering to ABQ from Austin TX in the next month or two. I am wondering how you feel about Comcast. (loaded question, huh!)

I have been a DirecTV user for years, and hate to give up my two TiVo's, but am considering Comcast for the ease of installation and packaging phone and 'net with cable.

What HD-DVR does Comcast offer in ABQ? I use two direcTivo's on my home theatre (can record 4 shows at once). Can two Comcast HD-DVR's be used in the same room, controlled by different remote signals?

I see from the info in this thread that the local CBS affiliate is not offered in HD on Comcast or satellite. Does the Comcast HD-DVR have an antenna connection, so that I can pull and record CBS-HD via antenna?

Thanks for any input you can offer.

Paul E

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by spawnman
Geeze, KOB didn't have any kind big build up when they announced Carla was leaving. Of course we have to see weeks of best of Carla clips coming up, but at least no stupid BIG announcement run-up.

Who Cares
You mean you don't like to see Carla in her heyday? Bad enough she can never string a sentence together.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sthscan
makes sense considering that is where her family is (mom and siblings).

Christine Jones, Christine Jones, Christine jones (new 10pm anchor, please!!!!)

BTW, my HD local news pool money is still with KRQE/KASA as first local news on the air in HD. The way their SD pic looks, I have to think they have a lot of the infrastructure from a studio standpoint already in place since they have the best looking SD studio shots and graphics of any local news.
I'm right there with you. Went to back home to Boston to catch a couple of World Series games (Dad has season tickets from my great grandfather) and I was pleasantly surprised to see that all of the major networks were broadcasting in HD. Of course I had to go home and tweak my Dads whole setup (part of the deal for the tickets) but it'd be nice if that was the case in this small market too. I think I would actually watch KRQE news if that was the case. I can't watch standard anything anymore.

Kevin R

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin R
You mean you don't like to see Carla in her heyday? Bad enough she can never string a sentence together.



I'm right there with you. Went to back home to Boston to catch a couple of World Series games (Dad has season tickets from my great grandfather) and I was pleasantly surprised to see that all of the major networks were broadcasting in HD. Of course I had to go home and tweak my Dads whole setup (part of the deal for the tickets) but it'd be nice if that was the case in this small market too. I think I would actually watch KRQE news if that was the case. I can't watch standard anything anymore.
Me too, I would switch to KRQE if it was on HD. I disagree with the person that wants Christine Jones to replace Cynthia because she came here from no where and didn't work the trenches as a reporter in NM first before becoming an anchor.

lujan

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul E
Hi Albuquerque folks! I will be transfering to ABQ from Austin TX in the next month or two. I am wondering how you feel about Comcast. (loaded question, huh!)

I have been a DirecTV user for years, and hate to give up my two TiVo's, but am considering Comcast for the ease of installation and packaging phone and 'net with cable.

What HD-DVR does Comcast offer in ABQ? I use two direcTivo's on my home theatre (can record 4 shows at once). Can two Comcast HD-DVR's be used in the same room, controlled by different remote signals?

I see from the info in this thread that the local CBS affiliate is not offered in HD on Comcast or satellite. Does the Comcast HD-DVR have an antenna connection, so that I can pull and record CBS-HD via antenna?

Thanks for any input you can offer.

Comcast here just offers the SA-8000 and SA-8300 dvrs. Dont look for FUNCTIONAL 1394 ports on them. They can be used in same room but not independantly with two remotes. meaning one remote will work both. unless youre creative in covering them or putting them in a cabinet. The DVRs DO NOT offer OTA tuners to compensate for missing local channels.

If you live in the Albuquerque Proper area under comcast you will have to wait another 447 days for the end of the Digital transition before you see CBS-HD on comcast. Comcast refuses to pay CBS a carriage fee for their HD signal. CableONE http://www.cableone.net which serves Rio Rancho, the metro area directly adjacent to Albuquerque on the north side, carries CBS in HD. they carry about 15 channels in hd.

450 HBO HDTV HBO in HDTV

451 SHOWTIME HDTV Showtime HDTV

453 TMC HD The Movie Channel HD

455 ABC HD ABC Network in HD

460 CBS HD CBS in HD

465 NBC HD NBC in HD

475 FOX HD KASA FOX in HD

490 UNIVERSAL HD Universal HD

491 ESPN HD ESPN in HDTV

492 ESPN2 HD ESPN2 HD

494 HD THEATER HD THEATER

495 NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HD NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HD

496 A&E HD A&E HD

497 HGTV HD HGTV HD

498 FOOD NETWORK HD FOOD NETWORK HD


Personally I think you would be wise, extremely wise, to stick with your satellite provider of choice with an OTA friendly DVR. All the networks broadcast from Sandia Crest which can be seen from practically anywhere in town so you will have no problems with reception and get all your local hd channels via satellite or OTA for seamless integration. Comcast just isnt worth the material I flushed this morning if youre concerned about Network HD which they fail to provide to their paying customers.

Hope you enjoy your time here in the land of Manana, the land of not today.

bigglare

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Thanks for the info, bigglare. You have been quite helpful in assisting me with making an educated decision. It sounds like sticking with my current hardware and provider would be the best choice at this time.

Paul E

Albuquerque NM HDTV

So channels 4 and 26 have different transmission properties?

One VHF, one UHF?

moonhawk

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Yes, as of right now channel 4 is analog "NTSC" AM video "VSB" and channel 26 is digital "ATSC" digital video "8VSB"

1-23-04

N5XZS

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hey you guys, I'm having some problems getting my SIRT150 to lock on 13.1. Antenna is pointed straight at the towers on the mountain and tilted a bit. When it does come on, getting nearly 50% signal strength. Same problem with 7.1 though I can usually get that on by going past and coming back. Gotta get this working before the superbowl!

Is this a firmware problem with my 2-year old box? How do I figure out what version of firmware in this box? Anybody here in town can update if needed?

Thanks.

DanHouck

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Dan, to get your firmware version #, (also on the 151) hit menu, turn on help, then hit display. Mine is v. 1.8 dated Sep 25 2001 10:47:45. I don't remember any newer versions available, but my memory is fuzzy. One other tweak: hit menu, turn off help, hit display; this will toggle the sidebars between black and gray, IF they are being added by the box, and not transmitted from the station.

The Sammy signal strength meter is mysterious, no one seems to know exactly how it works and about 50% is all any of them register, or 6-9 bars. A better/higher antenna might help your reception, or some have reported a little luck with a preamp. Jim Gale at KNME is impressed with the little Zenith Silver Sensor indoor ant., but just be sure you can return it if it doesn't perform for you. Good luck, one week left. Jerry

jerrich

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Jerrich, we have the same firmware and apparently the same box. Supposedly there is a version 2.0 available that makes the station listing work a lot better but has issues with stations that have older equipment.

Did you try to watch 13.1 yesterday (Saturday)? It kept pixelating on my set and finally shut off altogether around 1PM. I have installed a rooftop antenna and pointed it directly at the towers. 7.1 is a little slow to lock on but it does so every time. Indoor antenna is out of the question--I live in an adobe house with 2 foot thick walls, not much gets through that.

One other question, does FOX Kasa have an antenna up on the crest broacasting? Can't seem to find that one at all and the program listing on Titan says it is in Santa Fe.

Thanks for the info about the bars.

Dan

DanHouck

Albuquerque NM HDTV

RE: KRQE

My 151 occasionally (every couple months or so) has trouble locking in KRQE(although it does usually get lock). When all is well, it locks instantly. Then it will go through periods where it takes 15 seconds or so, during which it says no signal.

If I were to re-scan my channels from the menu while its in that mode, I'm hosed; it will never lock. But when this happens, I am still at full strength on the meter (which as Jerrich said is about 60%)

But heres the thing...this seems to be an issue between equipment at the station and certain Sammy gear.

When I get in these modes, I e-mail Frank Lilley at KRQE, he reboots something at his end (I think he referred to it as a Tamdberg encoder), and I am back 100%.

He said they have a reset that they do every couple weeks. The last time I noticed the problem was over the holidays, and he advised that they gotten behind on their resets.

That may have no relevance to boxes older than my 151, but just thought I would pass it along.

BGL

BGLeduc

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by DanHouck

One other question, does FOX Kasa have an antenna up on the crest broacasting? Can't seem to find that one at all and the program listing on Titan says it is in Santa Fe.
Dan
Check out the FCC web site, they have the location of the antenna listed under "Maps" on this page

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=KASA-TV

Its the on the crest. But the city of license is Santa Fe, not ABQ like most are. You also sometimes see this with radio stations licensed to another city but primarily catering to the bigger city that they also get into. Advertising being the main reason.

Quote:
Originally posted by N5XZS
Hello Bkzoller,
IMHO, I think channel 4 or channel 26 is mixed trade off in propagation issue whether to have VHF low band in order to punch through the New Mexico's mountain by using channel 4 or use more on digital relays station through out of state of New Mexico if KOB-DT chose to stay on digital channel 26.

We just have to wait and see what happens next!

1-22-04
On this note, a prime example of choosing between VHF and UHF as the "new" channel to transmit digital on at the end of the transition. KREZ in Durango is on channel 6, a low band VHF. They are already on the air at full power on channel 15 DT because it made sense to invest now in the facility because they will abandon channel 6 at the end of the transition. Channel 6 is one of the worst VHF channels to be on; it's adjacent to FM radio and is often interfered with by the FM stations. Many of whom claim to not be the cause but are in fact often unfiltered or inadequately maintained to prevent interference to channel 6. Another primary reason not to transmit on low band VHF is impulse noise, electrical equipment (like microwave ovens) or simply random background noise in the "either".

I could see anyone on channel 7 and above like 13 who would transition back to 13 VHF because of the propagation and low noise within the band. I can't imagine KASA on channel 2 wanting to go back to 2. It would be a constant headache for them. Even now, it is a headache to be on channel 2 analog. Try picking up channel 2 70-100 miles away on top of a hill trying to relay that to a translator, you probably would get considerable co-channel interference from other channel 2's out there.

mdamberger

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Assuming the KASA transmitter is up there with the rest of them on the Crest, wonder why I wasn't able to tune it on Saturday. Is it real low power? I think it is listed as a UHF on 26 that links back to 2.1. But I wasn't able to get the Samsung to tune it in on either 26 or 2 on Saturday. As noted previously, all the other channels are coming in loud and clear with only a short hesitation for tuning 7.1.

Do you have an email address for Frank Lilley?

What I was seeing on Saturday with 13.1 is the signal kept going to zero for longer periods until it was gone entirely. Haven't checked again since then, will do so tomorrow.

Thanks for your help.

Dan

DanHouck

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hello DanHouck,

KASA-DT tends to go on the air mostly at 4 PM and later except when there's a live sports programings if the chief Engineering don't forget to turn it on the air.

I'ts on digital channel 27, channel 26 belongs to KOB-DT.....

1-25-04

N5XZS

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by DanHouck

One other question, does FOX Kasa have an antenna up on the crest broacasting? Can't seem to find that one at all and the program listing on Titan says it is in Santa Fe.
Dan
Check out the FCC web site, they have the location of the antenna listed under "Maps" on this page

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=KASA-TV

Its the on the crest. But the city of license is Santa Fe, not ABQ like most are. You also sometimes see this with radio stations licensed to another city but primarily catering to the bigger city that they also get into. Advertising being the main reason.

Quote:
Originally posted by N5XZS
Hello Bkzoller,
IMHO, I think channel 4 or channel 26 is mixed trade off in propagation issue whether to have VHF low band in order to punch through the New Mexico's mountain by using channel 4 or use more on digital relays station through out of state of New Mexico if KOB-DT chose to stay on digital channel 26.

We just have to wait and see what happens next!

1-22-04
On this note, a prime example of choosing between VHF and UHF as the "new" channel to transmit digital on at the end of the transition. KREZ in Durango is on channel 6, a low band VHF. They are already on the air at full power on channel 15 DT because it made sense to invest now in the facility because they will abandon channel 6 at the end of the transition. Channel 6 is one of the worst VHF channels to be on; it's adjacent to FM radio and is often interfered with by the FM stations. Many of whom claim to not be the cause but are in fact often unfiltered or inadequately maintained to prevent interference to channel 6. Another primary reason not to transmit on low band VHF is impulse noise, electrical equipment (like microwave ovens) or simply random background noise in the "either".

I could see anyone on channel 7 and above like 13 who would transition back to 13 VHF because of the propagation and low noise within the band. I can't imagine KASA on channel 2 wanting to go back to 2. It would be a constant headache for them. Even now, it is a headache to be on channel 2 analog. Try picking up channel 2 70-100 miles away on top of a hill trying to relay that to a translator, you probably would get considerable co-channel interference from other channel 2's out there.

mdamberger

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Tried to watch Cold Case on 13 last night, but had to go back to analog due to the dig. audio was choppy again, it's happened before. Wonder where that came from? Frank said they were too poor for 5.1, but the stereo isn't anything to write home about either. JR

jerrich

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hello everybody. New to the site. New to HDTV also. Waiting for a dish network 811 receiver. Should be here in a couple of days. I have a million questions but first want to start off with a signal reception. I think I have a medium sized directional uhf/vhf antenna about 12' up on my roof. I get most of the vhf channels okay, not crystal clear and my uhf channels are snow. the signal is just hooked straight into a regular TV. When my receiver and HDTV ready monitor arrive I imagine the signals will be the same. I have a little line of sight problem. Any suggestions.

threejack

Albuquerque NM HDTV

try it and see...I get channels in better digitally than analog.

moonhawk

Albuquerque NM HDTV

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Originally posted by threejack
Hello everybody. New to the site. New to HDTV also. Waiting for a dish network 811 receiver. Should be here in a couple of days. I have a million questions but first want to start off with a signal reception. I think I have a medium sized directional uhf/vhf antenna about 12' up on my roof. I get most of the vhf channels okay, not crystal clear and my uhf channels are snow. the signal is just hooked straight into a regular TV. When my receiver and HDTV ready monitor arrive I imagine the signals will be the same. I have a little line of sight problem. Any suggestions.
If you’re having issues with UHF now, it's probably going to translate onto the digital side of things too. For example, if you can't pick up UPN 50 with a decent picture then that’s probably a bad thing. Being UPN 50 is pumping out around 5 mega watts of power and can bee seen over 200 miles away south in Cloudcroft NM on a good day. In fact digital 16 can also be seen on a regular basis at the same location and they are doing around 75kw. Check your balun, replace it if need be. How old is the down lead, how long is it? You might need a pre-amp at the antenna if you have a long run. Something like 10dB is good. Don't split the feed to a dozen TV's in the house. It's best to have one antenna attached to each TV. That way you won’t be having local oscillators from each TV beating against each other and making some weird harmonic that overlaps on the channel you want to watch.. But if I look back at your post, you say it's only connected to one TV.So that's good. I have a 6000 and they seem to work well, the 811 seems similar in design. Good luck!

mdamberger

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Hello all,

I recently was able to wrangle a SA 3100HD box from Comcast only to discover that KRQE is not being distributed in HD. Thus, I read the previous posts on this thread as to the Emmiss/Comcast feud and I was hoping I could get a question answered.

Is it possible to use the SA 3100HD as an OTA receiver? I can't seem to find any technical information on this box from the SA website.

shadowCobra

Albuquerque NM HDTV

Shadow, no the Comcast box cannot do OTA. I'm trying to make a Samsung box work on KQRE with little luck. There seems to be some software issues there that create problems. The box works perfectly with all the other stations but not the one I want for Sunday. Very frustrating.

Dan

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