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Question Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread ( AVS Forum AMPs, Receivers, and Processors )
Updated: 2008-05-26 02:19:02 (4199)
Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Usually, when a new Denon/Pio/Yamaha receiver is announced, there is about a million threads discussing them. This has got to be a first! Which means that either people dont care about it too much, not enough info, or it plain sucks

I was thinking about getting either a pre/pro, or go with a 4306 denon, or wait for this Yammy....

but not enough info except for the audioholics blurb.....

Answers: Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread ( AVS Forum AMPs, Receivers, and Processors )
Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Davio, despite my recent problems with the HDMI 2 port, I would definitely recommend buying this unit again. It's an amazing receiver that sounds tremendous. No reservations.

goceltics34

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by paulmonson
I have the Yamaha 2700 connected to my Linksys router using a Linksys wireless ethernet bridge at the A/V receiver ethernet port. I am able to connect to the internet radio feature and it works fine but I cannot connect to the PC/MusicCast feature it just says server with o/o at the bottom. When I go into Media Player 11 Media sharing there is not devices listed in the large box under "Share My Media To". How do I populate this box to recognize the Yamaha?

Thanks for any help.
I recently purchased a Yamaha RX-V2700, and I am able to connect via ethernet to a Router and listen to Internet Radio stations.

Unfortunately, I have had NO luck connecting to my PC. Server says 0/0, and when I go the sharing option in WMP11, I don't have any devices to share it with.

Yamaha told me to contact Microsoft. Microsoft told me to contact HP. HP told me to contact Yamaha. I did all of these, and nothing.

Please HELP! I am desperate.......

Attic-HT

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Thanks for the replies. As soon as I get my grad tuition reimbursed, Im planning on buying it!!! To me this unit just sounded so awesome with the Klipsch reference speakers I demo'd. It seems like every single receiver with HDMI has some sort of issue so Im not going to worry about those, and as others have mentioned here they still have no reservations about buying it. In the mean time, I am studying the manual I downloaded until I get the actual unit ; )

Davio

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I have the Klipsch RF-62 system with the RX-V2700 and the setup is sweet. You will definitely be grinning from ear to ear when you crank it up. Perfect combo in my opinion.

goceltics34

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I recently picked up the 2700 to be able to add HDMI input capability. In my system, I have a projector located more than 30 cable-feet away from the receiver. For this reason, I ran component to the projector when I built the house. I bought the receiver because I was told I could hook up my HDMI-capable devices and output to the projector through the component output. NOT TRUE!

This receiver will NOT downconvert from the HDMI inputs to the COMPONENT output. I realize most people would not want to do this, but I wanted to put this word of warning out for those that do.

FYI, I found an HDMI cable with built-in repeater that is 45 feet long for only $120 at Altex electronics. I may try to route it to the projector (need to go inside a wall and through the attic - fun, fun, fun!). This would be the only way to provide me the desired capability. I could leave the component input attached for additional flexibility.

khoney

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by grsz06
Does anyone know if I can run the front pre outs on the 2700 to the power amps for the subs in my Def Tech BP2000s, since I have left and right channel and run the speaker cables from the front speaker terminals to the front mains(tweetes and mid only) simultaneously without cooking anything? The 2700 manual says not to do this. I tried it and I get both signals...I'm just afraid I will fry something
I'm not sure why you'd want to do that. Use the preamp SUBWOOFER OUT on the rear panel of the 2700, split it with a Y-connector, and connect to each LFE input on the BP2000. Enable the subwoofer on the Yammie and you can also adjust the crossover frequency, but the BP2000 has a low-pass filter anyway, so I don't know if it would matter. I'm about to try this setup today.

khoney

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Attic-HT
I recently purchased a Yamaha RX-V2700, and I am able to connect via ethernet to a Router and listen to Internet Radio stations.

Unfortunately, I have had NO luck connecting to my PC. Server says 0/0, and when I go the sharing option in WMP11, I don't have any devices to share it with.

Yamaha told me to contact Microsoft. Microsoft told me to contact HP. HP told me to contact Yamaha. I did all of these, and nothing.

Please HELP! I am desperate.......
Do you have a firewall? What version of Windows are you using?

shanemcr

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I have a 40 foot HDMI cable (from Blue Jeans cable) with no amplifier running to my Panny AX-100U projector, with no issues at all. I would not think you need a repeater at that distance either...

Quote:
Originally Posted by khoney
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FYI, I found an HDMI cable with built-in repeater that is 45 feet long for only $120 at Altex electronics. I may try to route it to the projector (need to go inside a wall and through the attic - fun, fun, fun!). This would be the only way to provide me the desired capability. I could leave the component input attached for additional flexibility.
snip

makeadeel

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

speaking of NET Music, anyone get twonkyvision 4.2 working with the 2700? I have not tried yet (on vacation) but it is supposed to be compatible.

makeadeel

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Thanks for all the reply. You've all been quite helpful.

MarkH, I don't think that 1080p component summery could possibly be any clearer, many thanks.

BqWUDUDj, thanks for the video zone info. The Yamaha website and 2700 flyers weren't 100% clear on this, so it's good to know.

About the zone 2/3 remote, do you aim it at the 2700 receiver or some second mini remote receiver thingy just for the second zone remote? I haven't read anything about a second zone receiver!

I'm not too fussed about the iPod support, but it's still good to know either way.

As for a 2800, my friend says he's been told that there won't be a new model this year. If this is true that make my buying decision a bit easier. Just thought I'd mention that.

One more question about the network support on the 2700, what software on the PC can you use with it? Just WMP11 and/or Windows Media Connect(? not sure what it's called)?

HDless

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkH
The 2700 will accept 1080i over component, and convert to 1080i on HDMI.
It will NOT accept 1080p via component in, and output via HDMI.
It will accept 1080p via component in, and output 1080p via component.
I thought that was the case. Cheers, Mark.

junior LA

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by HDless
Thanks for all the reply. You've all been quite helpful.
...

About the zone 2/3 remote, do you aim it at the 2700 receiver or some second mini remote receiver thingy just for the second zone remote? I haven't read anything about a second zone receiver!
You get a dedicated small hand-held wireless remote control to use with zones 2 and 3. There's an A/B switch (2/3 switch, I guess you could call it) on it that you move back and forth to pick which zone you want to control. If you want to control the 2700 through walls, you will have to purchase your own IR repeater. Thingys aren't included.

BqWUDUDj

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I recently purchased PS3 as a bluray player and connected it to the 2700 receiver. HD up to 1080i works just fine but for some reason 1080p passthrough doesnt work for me at all.

According to the yamaha tech support today 2700 passthrough will only work with 60 and not 24 Hz .. I hope he's wrong

Do you guys have any luck with 1080p/24 connectivity between 2700 and PS3 or any other Bluray player?

ruvic

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Thanks again BqWUDUDj.

I hope it's okay to ask this in this thread, but has anyone tried using a VGA-to-Component cable? If so, how is the Image quility? I was thinking of hooking up the Dreamcast to it via such a cable.

HDless

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

wow, it looks like these are starting to loose their steam...

metfoo

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ruvic
I recently purchased PS3 as a bluray player and connected it to the 2700 receiver. HD up to 1080i works just fine but for some reason 1080p passthrough doesnt work for me at all.

According to the yamaha tech support today 2700 passthrough will only work with 60 and not 24 Hz .. I hope he's wrong

Do you guys have any luck with 1080p/24 connectivity between 2700 and PS3 or any other Bluray player?
I was using my PS3 with the 1.8 FW update, and had it set to auto for the 1080p/24, and it played just fine. But, I don't really know if there was any way to see what fps it really was playing at, so might just have stayed at 60 no matter what.

But, I have to say, I DEFECTED and returned the V2700 and got the Onky 805 - and couldn't be happier!!!!!! It is simply amazing. But, it don't have all the things some of you may want, like the Internet Radio and such. But for what I needed it for, I did like the V2700 a lot, but to me, the 805 blew me away.

WRX_Rocky

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

hello all.....
i m set to enter the world of hi def and will lay my hands of the PS3 soon..
some members have had LFE issues in the past with the 2700 and hi def players...
for those who have their ps3 and 2700 up and running without any LFE or other issues, please share the settings.
thanks in advance......

shamps

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkH
The 2700 will accept 1080i over component, and convert to 1080i on HDMI.
It will NOT accept 1080p via component in, and output via HDMI.
It will accept 1080p via component in, and output 1080p via component.
MarkH

Sorry if this has been covered before, but is this summary the same for the 1700?

Thanks.

djc9

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by shamps
hello all.....
i m set to enter the world of hi def and will lay my hands of the PS3 soon..
some members have had LFE issues in the past with the 2700 and hi def players...
for those who have their ps3 and 2700 up and running without any LFE or other issues, please share the settings.
thanks in advance......

ne one????

shamps

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

First off, I am a long time reader but this is my first post. Awesome site here, I have used it a lot for research for any AV gear.

I have a friend of mine looking for a new receiver to replace an 8+ year old one that is beginning to fail. He has a 2 unique things in particular he would like:

3 Zone
Ethernet Connection

I did a bit of searching for him and found this Yamaha, an Onkyo (which I am a huge fan of the brand, I own 2) but isn't released yet, and a Denon.

I have seen some good reviews about the Yamaha but I figured I would check here first. Then I see that there is 94 pages so there is no way I can read it all.

Basically, would you recommend it? HDMI 1.3 is not a necessity so leave that part out of the equation. Is there another receiver that will handle HDMI/7.1/Ethernet/3 Zone/XM that I may have missed and should look at?

He plans on having this for years to come so reliability is a big issue. I have never owned a piece of Yamaha gear so I can't vouch for reliability. Any concerns on that front?

Thanks!

Citroen

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Im using the 2700 with the PS3 for BD only (not games)

Do you always have to go into the menu of a movie to select "uncompressed" sound? Why does it not defult to that always?

I see that when it is selected the 2700's front panel still says LPCM is that correct?

How do I know if I am getting the highest rate from the 2700 when selecting "uncompressed" on the PS3 BD's?


70MM

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by shamps
hello all.....
i m set to enter the world of hi def and will lay my hands of the PS3 soon..
some members have had LFE issues in the past with the 2700 and hi def players...
for those who have their ps3 and 2700 up and running without any LFE or other issues, please share the settings.
thanks in advance......
shamps, I believe that the LFE issues were not with the 2700, but with the Toshiba HD-DVD.

junior LA

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70MM
Im using the 2700 with the PS3 for BD only (not games)

Do you always have to go into the menu of a movie to select "uncompressed" sound? Why does it not defult to that always?

I see that when it is selected the 2700's front panel still says LPCM is that correct?

How do I know if I am getting the highest rate from the 2700 when selecting "uncompressed" on the PS3 BD's?

Yes

Yes

Trust me, if you have selected uncompressed off the disc, you are getting the best. While the BR is playing, bring up the OSD on the PS3, select info and the audio should be around 4.6MBPS.

MarkH

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by djc9
MarkH

Sorry if this has been covered before, but is this summary the same for the 1700?

Thanks.

Yes it is.

MarkH

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

**Just joined this forum, downloaded this entire thread and been through it all but haven't found a definitive answer about lip-syn issues....**


I've purchased a RX-V2700 about 6 months ago and been struggling with lip-sync issues since day 1 but didn't know what to do - then found this forum (finally!!)

In terms of video usage, I'm mainly using as follows:

1) Sky box going into a Panasonic DVD recorder via RGB Scart. S-Video and Digital Optical from Panasonic DVD recorder to the RX-V2700 - perfect, works like a charm!
2) Denon DVD-1930 via HDMI - variable lip-sync issues
3) HDMI to Samsung Plasma


Lip-sync is variable, it can start off as un-noticeable and half way a DVD it's way out. It's not possible to add a fixed amount of delay to correct this as it's variable and it's screws up the lip-sync on Sky box input

I've felt the top of the amp and it is hot but I could leave my hand there (about 5" gap to glass shelf above it)



I got so fed up with the lip-sync I changed back to my Denon 2900 using component and Digital coaxial. There is still some lip-sync, much less and it is consistent. Still can't correct as it will mess up the lip-sync on Sky box input.




I then tried Denon 2900 using S-video / Digital Coaxial and no lip-sync issues at all




1) Can anyone else verify this / tried this?
2) Why is this happening
3) How common is this?

It seems a bit stupid to have HDMI available but not use it and then likewise for component. Having to use S-video is fine (I can't see a big difference in quality but it is there especially vs HDMI).

1) Is there anything I can do to stop this happening? It's driving me mad!
2) Shall I take the amp back and ask for a replacement?
3) What the heck am I going to do when I buy a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player?
4) What about firmware upgrades for the RX-V2700 - how and where do I get these? How can I find what Firmware I'm using?




Any help / advice would be massively appreciate.

Cheers


PS - wow this is an awesome forum.... so much cool info I got loads more questions about other things with the RX-V2700 but for another day me thinks!!

beat-breaker

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I also have loads of lip sync problems with the 2700

What Im using:

Two different Sat decoders
Oppo DV-981HD
PS3 Bluray
Xbox 360 HD DVD
Media Centre

I set delay to many different settings and cant find one thats right with everything (maybe never will)

What would be a good all round setting for one to use with a set up like this please?

Thanks in advance for any help guys

70MM

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by junior LA
shamps, I believe that the LFE issues were not with the 2700, but with the Toshiba HD-DVD.
thanks Junior LA for the info.........
well cant wait for my bluray to arrive......
cheers!!!

shamps

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70MM
I also have loads of lip sync problems with the 2700

What Im using:

Two different Sat decoders
Oppo DV-981HD
PS3 Bluray
Xbox 360 HD DVD
Media Centre

I set delay to many different settings and cant find one thats right with everything (maybe never will)

What would be a good all round setting for one to use with a set up like this please?

Thanks in advance for any help guys




I've been messing about and found that by going with a S-video connection instead of HDMI or Component, I cured ALL my lip-sync issues. Why? Who knows but it worked.

However I did call the shop I bought it from today and they called Yamaha. Yamaha said that they were not aware of any common bugs like this lip-sync issue and thought that my amp is faulty and would like me to take it back to the shop I bought it from. If the shop can replicate my problems they will replace it / get it fixed. Seems reasonable to me, so if you got probs get in touch with where you bought it from.

Good luck

beat-breaker

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70MM
I also have loads of lip sync problems with the 2700

What Im using:

Two different Sat decoders
Oppo DV-981HD
PS3 Bluray
Xbox 360 HD DVD
Media Centre

I set delay to many different settings and cant find one thats right with everything (maybe never will)

What would be a good all round setting for one to use with a set up like this please?

Thanks in advance for any help guys
What are others who have the 2700 set the delay at? I havent had anyone say here what works best for them yet?

Lets see if others also have problems getting the lip sync correct?

70MM

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

No lip sync issues at all on my 6 month old RXV2700 via component and HDMI.

MarkH

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I have lip sync issues with my PS3 via HDMI and my Direct TV DVR via HDMI. It's not too bad but still definitely noticeable. I have just learned to deal with it. No know solution.

goceltics34

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by goceltics34
I have lip sync issues with my PS3 via HDMI and my Direct TV DVR via HDMI. It's not too bad but still definitely noticeable. I have just learned to deal with it. No know solution.
Its not nice is it!!!!! Ive tried every setting but cant correct it!!!!

70MM

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by goceltics34
I have lip sync issues with my PS3 via HDMI and my Direct TV DVR via HDMI. It's not too bad but still definitely noticeable. I have just learned to deal with it. No know solution.
No lip sync issues with Comcast DVR via HDMI. My 2700 is almost 1 yr old.

bogie3

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ruvic
I recently purchased PS3 as a bluray player and connected it to the 2700 receiver. HD up to 1080i works just fine but for some reason 1080p passthrough doesnt work for me at all.

According to the yamaha tech support today 2700 passthrough will only work with 60 and not 24 Hz .. I hope he's wrong

Do you guys have any luck with 1080p/24 connectivity between 2700 and PS3 or any other Bluray player?
I had my HTPC hooked up using a DVI-HDMI cable, running through my 1700. Worked fine with 1080P24.

phigment

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by goceltics34
I have lip sync issues with my PS3 via HDMI and my Direct TV DVR via HDMI. It's not too bad but still definitely noticeable. I have just learned to deal with it. No know solution.
I had the issue with my 1700. I bought a fan and that fixed the problem....GR

gr997s

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I have no lip synch issues, using Samsung SD-DVD, Xbox360 with HD-DVD add-on, Motorola 6416 III cable box or Wii.

junior LA

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by junior LA
I have no lip synch issues, using Samsung SD-DVD, Xbox360 with HD-DVD add-on, Motorola 6416 III cable box or Wii.
what did you set your delay at?

70MM

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I didn't set any delay, unless somehow the YPAO would done it automatically.

junior LA

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by junior LA
I didn't set any delay, unless somehow the YPAO would done it automatically.
No it doesnt set any delay for you automatically you have to do it yourself.

70MM

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

I will be possibly buying a new 2700 shortly since is on clearance at Magnolia for 1199.00... What i am curious about however is, i have an old Pioneer Elite DV-38A Progressive Scan component output that will be going to a new Samsung DLP that i wish to buy as well.. will the 2700 upconvert better or should i use the Sammy's upconverterfor my old Pioneer? I have heard both ways would lokk better than what i have now .. but i would assume the Sammy woulld be better based on what the previous post said about the 2700 scalers.. thanks

mikejedi123

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikejedi123
I will be possibly buying a new 2700 shortly since is on clearance at Magnolia for 1199.00... What i am curious about however is, i have an old Pioneer Elite DV-38A Progressive Scan component output that will be going to a new Samsung DLP that i wish to buy as well.. will the 2700 upconvert better or should i use the Sammy's upconverterfor my old Pioneer? I have heard both ways would lokk better than what i have now .. but i would assume the Sammy woulld be better based on what the previous post said about the 2700 scalers.. thanks
You probably already reviewed the following:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/r...-network-setup

You might also want to read:

http://www.widescreenreview.com/news...l.php?id=12335
http://www.anchorbaytech.com/docs/pd...010_031607.pdf

The ABT video scaling on the Yamaha should surpass the Samsung. But your mileage will vary.

DECdaze

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Which would you guys prefer to have?
the yamaha RX-V3800, denon 3808ci or the onkyo 805 or 875?
I heared the denons are pretty much using the same stuff as their models two years ago (same dacs and video chip) I am finding when reading the onkyo threads theres a lot of problems people are having. So would I be better off getting a yamaha RX-V3800? is their components up to date? does yamaha have a good track record with their products in inital launches? This is the first time i am acutally purchasing a home theatre system and I want to get somthing great. I already got my speakers. All i need now is the reciever. How do you guys like the sound of yamaha especially for movies and games compared to onkyo and denon?

kojo39

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by kojo39
Which would you guys prefer to have?
the yamaha RX-V3800, denon 3808ci or the onkyo 805 or 875?
I heared the denons are pretty much using the same stuff as their models two years ago (same dacs and video chip) I am finding when reading the onkyo threads theres a lot of problems people are having. So would I be better off getting a yamaha RX-V3800? is their components up to date? does yamaha have a good track record with their products in inital launches? This is the first time i am acutally purchasing a home theatre system and I want to get somthing great. I already got my speakers. All i need now is the reciever. How do you guys like the sound of yamaha especially for movies and games compared to onkyo and denon?
if you want something great you will want the new yammy rxz11 that is what a great avr is all about. i have been trying the 805 and am subscribed to the thread and do not see all the problems with the unit you mention except for some over excited people worried about heat??? it's a amp and amps make heat get over it! i had a yammy 2095 and loved it the 805 is really a great performer from what i hear it is par to the 2700 exept the 805 has the ability to decode true-hd and dts-HD however since the current b) rules will not allow bitstream of it the lights will never light. one thing i have to give to onkyo is a geniuss designed that remote that comes with the 805 it has to be the most fully complete and funcionally liteate remote i have ever owned. no need for a harmony.
right now this is where i stand:
805 i paid 799 it's a fliipin' bargain at that price
2700: 1400
3800: 1700
rxz11: most likely 3-5 grand (price not yet released)

my suggestion: try the 805 from cc you have 30 days if you don't like it take it back and order the yammy 3800 and if you dare and truely want a great avr go for that rxz11 jsut make sure your stand can support all 88 pounds of it

cappyxavs

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Doesn't the yamaha RX-V3800 decode dts hd ma and dolby true hd? I could of sworn I saw it on the website or did i miss somthing. I know I won't be able to take advantage of those formats untill they realease an hd player that can output those formats in bitstream via hdmi, not to mention the dvd that I am watching has to be recorded in one of those formats.

kojo39

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by kojo39
Doesn't the yamaha RX-V3800 decode dts hd ma and dolby true hd? I could of sworn I saw it on the website or did i miss somthing. I know I won't be able to take advantage of those formats untill they realease an hd player that can output those formats in bitstream via hdmi, not to mention the dvd that I am watching has to be recorded in one of those formats.
yes it is capable of doing this. ok i am going to explain this as clear as i can.
it is not up to the hardware manufactures when and if you ever get true-hd and dts-hd via BITSTREAM it is up to the folks at b) to allow the players to start passing this via bitstream. until they say yea you get it via pcm. right now the 805 and the new 3800 has the ability to decode this bitstream however until it is allowed to pass your lights will stay dark. also you dvd player will have to be 1.3a min compliant to pass this.

cappyxavs

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderr
Sorry for the confusion, but after so many hours messing with it, I think its getting to me. Lets see if I can clarify. Yes I have an Linksys WRT54G with DHCP activited. I'm running four computers with 198.168.0.X ip addressing and a HP wireless printer for a number of years with no problems. I have hardwired in port 1 a DSL verizon modem. Port 2 through 4 were always empty untill now I hardwired the 2700 into port 3, tried 2 and 4 with no difference. The light on the Linksys lights up indicating the port is being used. I have DHCP set to max 50 users. I get no indication on the Linksys software (firmware through internet explorer) that I attached any other device. The strangest thing is that I get an 26,101.... IP showing up on my 2700 the minute I plug in the hardwire into the Linksys. I tripled checked the wire with a wire tester and even replaced it but I get the same results. I know this sounds strange because it sounds strange to me just typing this but this is what is going on.


PS: I checked my static IP address from my ISP and it starts with 64.xx
If you are still using the second router at your AVR try the following settings & connections on your AVR (second) router:

1. change that routers IP to an IP ending in a .2 or .3 leaving the remaining default IP #'s
2. turn off DHCP
3. wire RJ45 from your main router port 1 to port 4 on your AVR (second) router

Works fine for me when configured as above (WRT54G and WRT54GL)

toby10

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

okay I think i get it now. Right now it can be done in pcm with any of the three players that we've discussed. And although they are capable of accepting a siginal in dts hd or dd hd formats in bitstream, it won't happen untill "the folks at b)" say its okay to do so. by the way who are the folks at "b)"? on a side note i'll take your advice and pick up an 805 from a retailer that sells them and has a hassle free return policy. (i live in toronto canada so i gotta do search on the onkyo website.)

kojo39

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

You can probably get a 2700 for a lot cheaper than $1400 now if you look.......I like the Onkyo's but Id still go with the 2700 again in a heartbeat.

Davio

Official Yamaha RX V1700 RX V2700 Thread

how well does the 1700/2700 do with PS3's at 1080p? any audio or video issues?


And how well does it convert 1080i componet to HDMI out?

johnner1999

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Quote:
Originally Posted by toby10
If you are still using the second router at your AVR try the following settings & connections on your AVR (second) router:

1. change that routers IP to an IP ending in a .2 or .3 leaving the remaining default IP #'s
2. turn off DHCP
3. wire RJ45 from your main router port 1 to port 4 on your AVR (second) router

Works fine for me when configured as above (WRT54G and WRT54GL)
OK, I can try this but turning off the entire DHCP on all the equipment and going with all static IP's or did you mean something else?

Spiderr

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New to this US forum and first post on this thread so please be gentle even if these questions have been asked already...and maybe answered.

So, I live in Japan where I am the proud owner of the japanese version of the 2700, it's called the DSP Ax2700

I sent few queries to a nice bloke at Yamaha UK but he can't answer officially since it is a different product than the one sold in Europe so he passed my queries to Japan....still wiating for a feedback though.

these were my questions

1) USB
ok easy to plug in and access through the GUI but why is it not possible to do continuous play (jumping from a folder to another) .I explain, after first track playing is started in one folder then it reads all the tracks IN THAT PARTICULAR FOLDER but does not go to the next folder to read the tracks stored in it.

same question with tracks random play function. Why it does not apply that function to all the folders rather than only the one selected?

2) link to my CDR HD1500

Still no plan, as you suggested, to be able to use my Yamaha CDR HD1500 as a media server for the amplifier?

3) link to my SONY PS3

As suggested to you on the AV forum, is it possible to use the console as a media server for the amplifier?

4) internet radio streaming

set-up is easy, choice of radios is good but why is it not possible to "upgrade" to stations other than the ones included in V-tuner list? Are we tied with this provider or are there any plans for Yamaha to allow us picking up other Internet radios?

5) Full Video upport up to 1080p/24

I know you are being hassled of questions about this on the AV UK forum but can you forward the same query to your japanese contact please



Voila, any views would be appreciated

Thanks in advance

Olivier

nolive

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davio
You can probably get a 2700 for a lot cheaper than $1400 now if you look.......I like the Onkyo's but Id still go with the 2700 again in a heartbeat.
i'm going to stay with the 805. i know i can get the 2700 for a grand from ebay out of NY however i do not like dealing like this. the 805 has a lot going for it and the remote is so logically laid out. sound is fine from the 805 and now with yammy having the newer 3800 and rxz11 comming this adds a whole new aspect to pricing and such. i got the 805 for 799 which is far less when compared to the 3800 i decided to buy a ps3 80gb pack and keep the 805. however thanks ver much for your input on this one last thing though my wife loves the remote with the 805 so much i don't think she will let me part with it

cappyxavs

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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnner1999
how well does the 1700/2700 do with PS3's at 1080p? any audio or video issues?

And how well does it convert 1080i componet to HDMI out?
First, not sure about the PS3. You might want to use the Search Thread feature to see if anyone else posted some notes.

It SHOULD handle 1080p from the PS3. 1080p it passes through. As expected the 2700 ignores the video and plays the sound.

And to answer the question on the conversion, two things to review. First the manual for the product (pages 22 and 102) provides more detail. Also, Audioholics did a detailed review of the conversion. Essentially they said it was fair to middlin'. For me it's better than what my TV does for SD content. That's good enough for me.

You can find the manual and a copy of the review under the 2700 product page. Goto:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/

PS - The receiver does a great job of down converting the analog signals as well. I had a DVD player hooked to the 2700 via component and the TV via SVideo. The output on the screen was best it ever has been (for an SD display).

DECdaze

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Quote:
Originally Posted by nolive
New to this US forum and first post on this thread so please be gentle even if these questions have been asked already...and maybe answered.
Welcome! I'll take a swing at some answers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nolive
these were my questions

1) USB
ok easy to plug in and access through the GUI but why is it not possible to do continuous play (jumping from a folder to another) .I explain, after first track playing is started in one folder then it reads all the tracks IN THAT PARTICULAR FOLDER but does not go to the next folder to read the tracks stored in it.
The algorithm to they employed is folder based. They COULD have read beyond a folder, but the code is a more complicated.

Rather than use a huge USB drive, I started to just use a thumb drive (the small memory drive about the size of a thumb). I put the items I want to hear into different folders. If I want a mix I put them together into one folder.

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Originally Posted by nolive
... same question with tracks random play function. Why it does not apply that function to all the folders rather than only the one selected?
Again, jumping across folders is much more complicated. Also I assume the programmer did not want to jump from a MP3 folder into a Windows DLL library. It's easier to stay within a single folder.

Hmmm. I lost the orignal questions. No ideal about the Yamaha CDR as a media server, but I doubt it. Same for the PS3 as a media server. In both cases the 2700 requires either the latest Windows Media Player (I think it's 11), or the Windows Media Connection software. I don't think either product can run those to allow them to act as a media server for the 2700.

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Originally Posted by nolive
4) internet radio streaming

set-up is easy, choice of radios is good but why is it not possible to "upgrade" to stations other than the ones included in V-tuner list? Are we tied with this provider or are there any plans for Yamaha to allow us picking up other Internet radios?
I will just use my PC to provide more/different options.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nolive
5) Full Video upport up to 1080p/24

I know you are being hassled of questions about this on the AV UK forum but can you forward the same query to your japanese contact please
It passes 1080p, but if there are problems, then just run the sound to the 2700 and the HDMI to you TV/projector.

DECdaze

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Hi Decdaze.

Thanks for the welcome and the head-up.

TBH, I'm disappointed by the poor ergonomy of this amp when it comes to Music streaming via an external device (My CDR/HD player, an USB key, my laptop or the Internet radio thingy)

And the japanese I meet here wonder why Ipod is so succesful.......Well have they heard about "user friendly" stuff?

anyway, let's see what Yamaha has to say about my queries(not a lot me thinks.....)

nolive

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cappyxavs
i'm going to stay with the 805. i know i can get the 2700 for a grand from ebay out of NY however i do not like dealing like this. the 805 has a lot going for it and the remote is so logically laid out. sound is fine from the 805 and now with yammy having the newer 3800 and rxz11 comming this adds a whole new aspect to pricing and such. i got the 805 for 799 which is far less when compared to the 3800 i decided to buy a ps3 80gb pack and keep the 805. however thanks ver much for your input on this one last thing though my wife loves the remote with the 805 so much i don't think she will let me part with it
Haha...Ive been hearing that about the 805 remote. Unfortunately I can't say the same about the Yammy....its still just a receiver remote and Im about to jump in and get a Logitech Harmony. Enjoy your 805.

Davio

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davio
Haha...Ive been hearing that about the 805 remote. Unfortunately I can't say the same about the Yammy....its still just a receiver remote and Im about to jump in and get a Logitech Harmony. Enjoy your 805.
I have a Logitech Harmony 880. I can highly recommend it. However, it takes some time to get used to how it works. You define the devices you want to control. Then you review the keys and see if changes need to be made. For example, my old tube TV remote had a Status/Info Key. The default settings from Logitech did not have it. I added it where the DVD 'select' key is. Then for various activities you customize the programmable buttons. This allows you to add in features such a Picture-In-Picture controls. So, anything that turns on the TV includes the PIP keys.

I am very happy with thus purchase. Though my wife likes it, there's no doubt that fumbling with four remotes at once gets old!

DECdaze

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderr
OK, I can try this but turning off the entire DHCP on all the equipment and going with all static IP's or did you mean something else?
No, just turn off DHCP on the second AVR router. You are still utilizing DHCP through your main router/gateway. This way, your AVR router is just acting as a simple hub-router and will eliminate the other factors (DHCP, wireless, mac address filtering, etc...).

Once this simplest of wired setups is functioning, you can then add more options (like going wireless, WEP, mac filtering, etc...). This gives you a clean & simple starting point to see if the 2700 & router are communicating.

Also, I'm pretty sure the MAC filtering on my Linksys WRT54G's ignores wired connections. I use MAC filtering for wireless and it never prevents any/all wired connections. Though this may be a default setting I've never messed with.

I used this simple wired setup and my 2700 connected immediately to internet radio. Squeezebox v3 on order as we speak.

toby10

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4) internet radio streaming

set-up is easy, choice of radios is good but why is it not possible to "upgrade" to stations other than the ones included in V-tuner list? Are we tied with this provider or are there any plans for Yamaha to allow us picking up other Internet radios?

No, you are basically screwed here if you intend on using ONLY the Yamaha unit for Internet Radio.

You're only other options for using streams beyond v-Tuner is:
1. connect a computer to 2700
2. connect seperate device (with or without computer) like Squeezebox or Roku or the other internet streaming addon boxes

toby10

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My apologies in advance for the rambling nature of this post. Please bear with me as I unload...

I'm having a strange issue and hope members of this thread my have some advice or or suggestions.

I've had my V2700 since December with a front/center/sub speaker configuration. I've been using the unit mainly as a switcher and pre-amp. My fronts are plugged into Outlaw monoblocks and the sub is powered.

I tried adding some wireless back speakers recently and have been encountering some strange issues. (Wired speakers aren't practical at this point). I first tried a Rocketfish with a couple of small Hsu speakers (from the ventriloquist system). I couldn't get this unit to work, so I swapped it for a JBL 2.4 wireless system. (This is a complete system with the receiver and amp built into the primary speaker.)

The JBL proved to be a bust as well until I connected them to my Mac mini. They played and sounded great, but I noticed that the speaker connection went off if the volume level was reduced significantly. This made me wonder if the back channel pre-outs were producing enough "signal" to activate the wireless connection. I decided to bump the pre-amps by +10 db (the max it will go). The speakers now play--although I get the feeling that they are performing at less than optimal.

Another twist to this tale...

While fiddling with the setup, I sent a test tone through the speakers and noticed that the back surround and presence tone was coming out of the front speakers. These was happening even though those speakers were "off." I asked Yamaha support about the wireless problems and the test tone issue, and they suggest a speaker wire or cabling problem or possible something internal with the receiver.

I don't think I have a polarity or wire issue, but I'm reluctant to ship the receiver for service without a good reason.

Any advice on any of these points would be greatly appreciated.

Atlplasma

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Quote:
Originally Posted by toby10
4) internet radio streaming

set-up is easy, choice of radios is good but why is it not possible to "upgrade" to stations other than the ones included in V-tuner list? Are we tied with this provider or are there any plans for Yamaha to allow us picking up other Internet radios?

No, you are basically screwed here if you intend on using ONLY the Yamaha unit for Internet Radio.

You're only other options for using streams beyond v-Tuner is:
1. connect a computer to 2700
2. connect seperate device (with or without computer) like Squeezebox or Roku or the other internet streaming addon boxes
hi toby,

Thanks for that.

my plan is to actually get rid of my laptop when I'm home because I would work and the missus ain't happy with that

so I'm aiming to use my PS3 as a media server once SONY has implemented the Internet radio streaming on their machine via firmware update(rather than going to the Radio website and try to plan live music coz it doesn't work at all)

same with music and video streaming, I'm aiming to do so via the HD of the PS3 if the blokes from Yamaha confirm to me you can hook-up the SONY box to my amp.

I'm sure that is achievable because a guy from Yamaha UK has dropped the info that a friend of his had managed to do so.

nolive

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Quote:
Originally Posted by nolive
hi toby,

Thanks for that.

my plan is to actually get rid of my laptop when I'm home because I would work and the missus ain't happy with that

so I'm aiming to use my PS3 as a media server once SONY has implemented the Internet radio streaming on their machine via firmware update(rather than going to the Radio website and try to plan live music coz it doesn't work at all)

same with music and video streaming, I'm aiming to do so via the HD of the PS3 if the blokes from Yamaha confirm to me you can hook-up the SONY box to my amp.

I'm sure that is achievable because a guy from Yamaha UK has dropped the info that a friend of his had managed to do so.
I'm guessing a PS3 would fall between the categories of a computer and a standalone device for internet use through your 2700.

As I know nothing about the PS3 and I do not play video games, what other advantages might one gain by adding a PS3 or XBox360 to their A/V equipment?

Would a PS3 or XBox require a computer to operate beyond games?

Just curious.

toby10

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Quote:
Originally Posted by toby10
No, just turn off DHCP on the second AVR router. You are still utilizing DHCP through your main router/gateway. This way, your AVR router is just acting as a simple hub-router and will eliminate the other factors (DHCP, wireless, mac address filtering, etc...).

Once this simplest of wired setups is functioning, you can then add more options (like going wireless, WEP, mac filtering, etc...). This gives you a clean & simple starting point to see if the 2700 & router are communicating.

Also, I'm pretty sure the MAC filtering on my Linksys WRT54G's ignores wired connections. I use MAC filtering for wireless and it never prevents any/all wired connections. Though this may be a default setting I've never messed with.

I used this simple wired setup and my 2700 connected immediately to internet radio. Squeezebox v3 on order as we speak.

Well after buying another router I set it up just like you suggested and still the 2700 doesn't get recognized, this leads me even further down the road that there is again something internally wrong in the unit. I've been extremely disapointed in this unit being its pretty expensive yet QA?QC seems poor at best. And yes I did buy it from an authorized dealer.

Spiderr

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so what does the 1700 do to the video from the componenet inputs when it gets a 720 or 1080i feed -- then sends it to the HDMI port? will it "crush" the video to 480p? or does it just pass it with no change in quility?

thanks
john

johnner1999

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I have a question about how zones 2 and 3 work on this receiver.

My setup is:

Primary setup is 5.1 in the family room with mains, center, and surrounds.
Zone 2: I'd like to have ceiling speakers in the kitchen on Zone 2.
Zone 3: I'd like to put speakers on my deck.

Understanding that this is a 7.1 receiver and not a 9.1, is this possible?
Would I need to buy a separate 2 channel amp for zone 3? If so, would I run the line from the pre-outs to the amp (and if I do, will that affect the speakers I have attached by wire?).

Also, my mains are rated at 4 ohms (AR1's), and the rest of my speakers are 8 ohms. Will this be a problem?

Thanks for any advice that can be provided. I was looking at the Onkyo 905 for the Reon processor, but there are problems with SD -> 1080p conversion because it stretches the picture rather than piller boxes, so now I am back to looking at the 2700 and letting my TV (Sony Bravia BR-3) do the upscaling and deinterlacing.

hakmusic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderr
Well after buying another router I set it up just like you suggested and still the 2700 doesn't get recognized, this leads me even further down the road that there is again something internally wrong in the unit. I've been extremely disapointed in this unit being its pretty expensive yet QA?QC seems poor at best. And yes I did buy it from an authorized dealer.
Sorry to hear of your troubles Spiderr. I know it doesn't help but my 2700's internet connection was flawless from day one. Connected immediately.

Have you tried connecting (if even possible with your 2700 location and proximity) directly to your main router via RJ45? I am just trying to make sure your problem is in fact the 2700 and not something else in the chain. (settings, cables, router, etc..)

But, yes, you may well have a defective unit.

toby10

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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnner1999
so what does the 1700 do to the video from the componenet inputs when it gets a 720 or 1080i feed -- then sends it to the HDMI port? will it "crush" the video to 480p? or does it just pass it with no change in quility?

thanks
john
I don't own a 1700, but I'd bet 720 & 1080 are just passed through (unprocessed) as on the 2700.

toby10

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Also, does anyone know when the 3800 is being released?

I am trying to decide between a discounted 2700 and a full price 3800.

hakmusic

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The local Sound Advice store (owned by Tweeter) tells me they'll have the RXV-3800 in stock early September. I put a deposit on one so that I'm guaranteed one in stock when they arrive.

The quick comparison on the Yamaha site suggest the 3800 offers a lot more than the 2700, but if you were looking to save money, it seems like the new RXV-1800 is the way to go. It seems to do everything the 3800 does except networking, front USB, and onscreen GUI.

I sure would like to know what this forum thinks of the 3800.

Pb Pedis

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Hmm talking about ethernet connectivity is it easy to browse with the remote (does it have fast scroll?)
eddie since you have set it up whats your though when browsing through thousands of mp3s with the remote?

Darthfunk

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I've got kind of a naive question. I just got a large 1080p HDTV. And still have an older non-progressive DVD player. I know the newer progressive DVD players would give better quality from standard DVD's. I don't want to buy a new DVD player, if I can help it, until the HD format wars are sorted out.
So, is there any benefit in running the 480i output of the old DVD player into the RXV2700 and letting it convert to 480p or higher? Or should I let the TV do it? Or should I just bite the bullet and buy an Oppo DVD player?

PS: My RXV2700 shipped yesterday from Tweeter in Atlanta.

SailorKane

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Originally Posted by WestCoastD
most likely this would be true as the M4 is a dedicated, or "separate", 2-channel amp.

yes, you can connect the Yamaha RX-V2700 FRONT pre-out's (2 front pre-amplifier channels) directly to your M4 amp inputs, the M4 output's then connect directly to your two front speakers. The RX-V2700 CENTER and SURROUND speaker outputs can then be connected directly to your center and surround speakers.

This is how I use my system. I use an RX-V1600 along with an NAD C272 amp (150W X 2). I have the NAD amp powering my two front speakers, with three of the Yamaha amp's powering my center, and two rear surrounds. It sounds great, especially hen listening to 2-channel music.
Thank-you, that helps very much.

Tom

tomoswald

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I just replaced my 8 year old Yamaha RX-V2092 with the new 2700. It really sounds great. I did notice one problem with the hdmi connectors. The hdmi cable fits very loose in the output hdmi connector. In fact it will fall out easily. Has anyone here experienced this problem? I expect a snug fit here. I still need to learn how to operate this beast. My old 2092 is for sale if anyone is interested.

Halco

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Just pulled the trigger on the 2700, will be here on Friday.
It will be driving a 5.1 set of 750 MK II THX SELECT System.

Hooking up to the Oppo 970 to do the DVD playing - HDMI to the Yamaha, then HDMI to the JVC HD-61FN97 for viewing.

Also will be running the DirectTv HD-DVR (HS-20S) through the Yamaha as well.

Cant wait for the reciever!

Wooooo Hooooooo!

HR

Hawaii-Rider

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Which connection will give me the best sound from my Panasonic S97 DVD player to the RX-V2700, digital optical cable, coaxial cable or 6 multi-channel audio cables?

SirJohnFalstaff

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Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff
Which connection will give me the best sound from my Panasonic S97 DVD player to the RX-V2700, digital optical cable, coaxial cable or 6 multi-channel audio cables?
I use a combination of both-- digital optical connection, and 6 discrete multi-channel inputs on my sony DVP NS90V DVD/DVD-A/SACD player. This way you can get the best of both worlds. When listening to most CD's (PCM stereo), or watching DVD movies, it's coming through the digital audio connection. However, when you switch the Yamaha to "Multi-channel" it will enable the 6 multi-channel inputs for playing SACD's, etc.,...

WestCoastD

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff
Which connection will give me the best sound from my Panasonic S97 DVD player to the RX-V2700, digital optical cable, coaxial cable or 6 multi-channel audio cables?
I have S97 and RX-V1600 and use the digital connections only:
- coaxial cable for CD (it's accepted that coaxial is better than optical)
- HDMI cable for both DVD-Video and DVD-Audio

I guess that there is no differense between coaxial and HDMI as regards sound quality but separate connection through coaxial cable give me chance to use Pure Direct (it doesn't matter for RX-V2700) and to set different presets for CD and DVD playback.

SNick

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Quote:
Originally Posted by WestCoastD
I use a combination of both-- digital optical connection, and 6 discrete multi-channel inputs on my sony DVP NS90V DVD/DVD-A/SACD player. This way you can get the best of both worlds. When listening to most CD's (PCM stereo), or watching DVD movies, it's coming through the digital audio connection. However, when you switch the Yamaha to "Multi-channel" it will enable the 6 multi-channel inputs for playing SACD's, etc.,...
You'd think that if you were using six multi-channel inputs that would produce a better sound? One coaxial cable for each channel should pass a better signal than just one coaxial for all six. I know that isn't how it works, but you'd think it would.

Does anyone know if this would work with HD sound if you don't have HDMI 1.3?

SirJohnFalstaff

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff
You'd think that if you were using six multi-channel inputs that would produce a better sound? One coaxial cable for each channel should pass a better signal than just one coaxial for all six. I know that isn't how it works, but you'd think it would.

Does anyone know if this would work with HD sound if you don't have HDMI 1.3?
that's not the reason John.

SACDs and DVD-As require you to have discrete analog outputs to your processor, unless you are running iLink, denonLink, or anything similar that will pass DSD (for SACDs) or DVD-A signals thru a single wire for the processor to decode.

Whichever sounds best depends on the DACs on either your destination or your source.

Example:
If you have a Panasonic S97, then chances are the Yamaha 2700 will have better DACs. So if you could pass DSD via iLink to the 2700 (which you cant), then I would let it do that, or if you want to listen to CDs, then I would let the 2700 decode it.

However, if you have a player like a Denon 3910 (which I have) or SP1000, etc, then you want to take advantages of their internal DACs as they are much better than the dacs in the 2700....so whether SACD, CD, etc, I let the 3910 do all the processing, and pass it to the 2700 via discrete 2 or 6 channel analog as an EXT IN.


Finally, for movies, I recommend you just use the Digi Coax or Optical cable from your S97 to the 2700, as then you can apply all the goodies like CinemaDSP, etc, to your signal.

ssabripo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo
that's not the reason John.

SACDs and DVD-As require you to have discrete analog outputs to your processor, unless you are running iLink, denonLink, or anything similar that will pass DSD (for SACDs) or DVD-A signals thru a single wire for the processor to decode.

Whichever sounds best depends on the DACs on either your destination or your source.

Example:
If you have a Panasonic S97, then chances are the Yamaha 2700 will have better DACs. So if you could pass DSD via iLink to the 2700 (which you cant), then I would let it do that, or if you want to listen to CDs, then I would let the 2700 decode it.

However, if you have a player like a Denon 3910 (which I have) or SP1000, etc, then you want to take advantages of their internal DACs as they are much better than the dacs in the 2700....so whether SACD, CD, etc, I let the 3910 do all the processing, and pass it to the 2700 via discrete 2 or 6 channel analog as an EXT IN.


Finally, for movies, I recommend you just use the Digi Coax or Optical cable from your S97 to the 2700, as then you can apply all the goodies like CinemaDSP, etc, to your signal.
Cool. I'll just stick with my good old digital coax cable and be happy.

I saw the 2700 yesterday at A&B here in Calgary. She sure looks beautiful. I wish I didn't have to wait until January to bring one home.

SirJohnFalstaff

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Can somebody explain how switching between the net and usb functions works in the RX-V2700?

In the much-lower-end RX-N600 one can switch between the net and usb only by going to the OSD menu. This is not convenient if one does not want to switch-on TV but just listen to the music. Is this done in the same way in the RX-V2700 or one can switch between the net/usb functions just by pressing on the remote?

irkuck

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SNick
it's accepted that coaxial is better than optical.
.
I may experiment switching my digital-optical connection to a digital-coax connection, just to see if there are noticeable differences in sound characteristics.

WestCoastD

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Wow, the excitement kills me. Owners must be totally enjoying their new toy to where they can't let go even for a few minutes to update everyone about the pros and cons.

I was just thinking about 2700's networking capability. Is this feature going to make Sonos obsolete?

isomdh

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Quote:
Originally Posted by isomdh
Wow, the excitement kills me. Owners must be totally enjoying their new toy to where they can't let go even for a few minutes to update everyone about the pros and cons.
that's because they're constantly starting new threads on the same subject- ie.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=734121
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=735308

WestCoastD

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Quote:
Originally Posted by isomdh
Wow, the excitement kills me. Owners must be totally enjoying their new toy to where they can't let go even for a few minutes to update everyone about the pros and cons.

I was just thinking about 2700's networking capability. Is this feature going to make Sonos obsolete?
Ok, I'll jump in. I've had the 2700 for a week, and I'm still experimenting, so this will be a VERY short opinion.
Video: The only video source I have going through the 2700 at the moment is a Denon 2930CI player via HDMI, and then to my Sony LCD via HDMI. As HDMI on the 2700 is pass through, I can't comment yet on it's conversion capabilities (but the picture quality from the Denon is terrific).
Audio: I have a pair of Mirage Omnisat v2 floorstanders, which sound really nice with the 2700. But just yesterday, I decided to try my old pair of Mirage M760's that I bought back in 1989, and always loved.
Well, all I can say is.......I'm a happy camper! The M760's STILL sound as good today as when I bought them 17 years ago. Fed by the 2700, there's isn't a thing I can think of that I'm dissatisfied with. And that's in a room with serious space limitations which prevent proper placement of the speakers (too close together and too close to the wall behind them).
I'm building a new house which will have a nice, big "great room". Speaker placement will be pretty easy. I was thinking of new speakers, but considering how good everything sounds now, I'm not sure I'll do that.
But anyway, the 2700 so far is terrific. Music and movies both sound great, and it has enough options/goodies to keep me playing for quite a while.
I can't answer about the networking, as I haven't tried that.

Jack

Jacksmyname

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Got my V2700 yesterday from my local Best Buy / Magnolia store. For the most part I'm pleased, but I had issues going from HDMI out to my Toshiba 57H83 DVI in (which has HDCP). I have a firmware hacked OPPO 970HD that disables the HDCP and it passes thru the V2700 with no issues. I tried my Comcast cable box DVI and it won't sync. My MCE2K5 HTPC passes thru. The thing that disturbs me the most is the V2700's menus won't display/sync on the HMDI output. Note: the unhacked OPPO firmware wouldn't sync going straight to the DVI port nor would the Comcast cable box, so I'm not suprised it didn't work on the V2700.

Connecting to my home network was easy, but accessing my large library of MP3's is painful. I found no way to quickly scroll through my 600 artists, and when you select an artist it doesn't show the albums, just all the song titles of the albums combined.

It appears that the 1/2/3 HDMI and 1/2/3 components are shared with the coax and optical assignments. Which was a hassle to connect my Xbox and Xbox 360 via component and optical in. I had to use an optical splitter and connected it to the CD optical in.

philtor

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Originally Posted by philtor
Got my V2700 yesterday from my local Best Buy / Magnolia store. For the most part I'm pleased, but I had issues going from HDMI out to my Toshiba 57H83 DVI in (which has HDCP). I have a firmware hacked OPPO 970HD that disables the HDCP and it passes thru the V2700 with no issues. I tried my Comcast cable box DVI and it won't sync. My MCE2K5 HTPC passes thru. The thing that disturbs me the most is the V2700's menus won't display/sync on the HMDI output. Note: the unhacked OPPO firmware wouldn't sync going straight to the DVI port nor would the Comcast cable box, so I'm not suprised it didn't work on the V2700.
Hmmmmm......
My 2700 is connected via HDMI to my tv, and I get the menu no problem.

Jacksmyname

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can you navigate the music folders from the front panel alone, not needing the tv on?

sckramer

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Originally Posted by philtor
Connecting to my home network was easy, but accessing my large library of MP3's is painful. I found no way to quickly scroll through my 600 artists, and when you select an artist it doesn't show the albums, just all the song titles of the albums combined.
So there is no fast scroll? Hows is this compared to Ipod connectivity and its scrolling?

Darthfunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by philtor
Connecting to my home network was easy, but accessing my large library of MP3's is painful. I found no way to quickly scroll through my 600 artists, and when you select an artist it doesn't show the albums, just all the song titles of the albums combined.
You might check out eddielives post on this. He seems to have it easy.

isomdh

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Is the 2700 able to power speakers with an impedance of 6 Ohms? Of the speakers I want, the center and surrounds are 6 Ohms, which they say are also 8 Ohm compatible, and the fronts are 8 Ohms.

SirJohnFalstaff

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Originally Posted by Darthfunk
So there is no fast scroll? Hows is this compared to Ipod connectivity and its scrolling?
As far as I see there is no fast scroll, and I find it to be very slow scrolling through the artist.

I am getting the IPOD dock today - I hope it has better navigation.

I haven't tried it via the front panel yet, but it might be quicker to use the knob to scroll.

philtor

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Quote:
Originally Posted by philtor
It appears that the 1/2/3 HDMI and 1/2/3 components are shared with the coax and optical assignments. Which was a hassle to connect my Xbox and Xbox 360 via component and optical in. I had to use an optical splitter and connected it to the CD optical in.
To me, it looks like you can assign each input individually.


Rob Kramer

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Thanks for posting the interface Rob, now I'm salivating

Though when I pull up a diagram of the V2700's backpanel to compare the I/Os to the interface you posted it is rather confusing.

weels

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Why would anyone want to route their video through their amp? My plasma is used as a "monitor" only. The DirecTV signal is plugged directly into the TV. Why go through the receiver first? This sounds like a waste. Only the audio signal should go into a receiver.

kmccorma

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Originally Posted by kmccorma
Why would anyone want to route their video through their amp? My plasma is used as a "monitor" only. The DirecTV signal is plugged directly into the TV. Why go through the receiver first? This sounds like a waste. Only the audio signal should go into a receiver.
Well, my TV has 1 DVI and 2 component inputs. I have an OPPO 970HD DVD player, Sony 5 Disc DVD player, Xbox , Xbox 360, PS2, Comcast cable box, HTPC, and VCR. I need the V2700 to manage my devices.

philtor

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmccorma
Why would anyone want to route their video through their amp? My plasma is used as a "monitor" only. The DirecTV signal is plugged directly into the TV. Why go through the receiver first?

Does DTV output 1080i? Does your display upscale? If not, that's a very vgood reason to, imo.

weels

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Originally Posted by Halco
I just replaced my 8 year old Yamaha RX-V2092 with the new 2700. It really sounds great. I did notice one problem with the hdmi connectors. The hdmi cable fits very loose in the output hdmi connector. In fact it will fall out easily. Has anyone here experienced this problem? I expect a snug fit here. I still need to learn how to operate this beast. My old 2092 is for sale if anyone is interested.


That's one of the few problems with HDMI, they pull out easily. Use
some type of tape or other fastening device if it gives you too much
problem.

SpadeAce

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The 2700 has an internal electronic 6 or 8 ohm setting. My old rx-v1 has an external 4/8 switch.

I'm not sure which sounds better as i am running a set of polk LSI's which are 4 ohm.

The protection circuit seems to trip more on the 2700 at 6 ohms.

I am still demo'ing the new 2700 vs an older flagship rx-v1.

I passed my video thru just to see and quickly went back to my thinking. Video to the TV sound to the reciever.

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gizmoholic

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I have a question about using Avia to set speaker levels.

I have a V-1700 and just bought an SPL meter. I set my receiver to -5 dB level and used my LF speaker as reference (no channel level adjustment). The reading on the SPL meter was 75. I then went through each channel and adjusted the channel level on the receiver so each read 75 on the SPL meter. Is this correct?

I assume if I went to 0 dB on the receiver initially, the reading would have been 80 on the SPL meter. But that would be damn loud on those test tones! lol

mrjinglesusa

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