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Question Cleveland, OH - HDTV ( AVS Forum Local HDTV Info and Reception )
Updated: 2008-05-30 06:32:21 (2775)
Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Yesterday I finally put up a RS VU-90XR antenna on my single story (chimney mount). I live in N. Olmsted.

I used to have a satellite dish but when I canceled it I just unplugged the cable from the dish & re-routed it to the VU-90XR.

I can now pick up 3, 5, 8, 19, & 43 - all of them comes in around 50% on my Samsung SIR-T150.

The 50% all around makes me wonder. I do have a tree in the direction of where the UV-90XR is pointing but I'm wondering if I should be getting better than 50% on some/all channels?

TIA,
Robert

Answers: Cleveland, OH - HDTV ( AVS Forum Local HDTV Info and Reception )
Cleveland, OH - HDTV

im down in cuyahoga falls and get abc (93%), fox (69%), and cbs (93-100%) and i use the terk indoor antenna everyone complains about...

you can probably improve your strength if you tweek your antenna

i dont get nbc channel 3 at all .. but ive heard that their power is weak

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Thanks. I need to tweak the antenna angle this weekend.

Wow, you getting 93% with indoor antenna

takosan

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I live in Wellington, which is probably 30 miles southwest of North Olmsted. I had to go to an outdoor antennae to pick up CBS reliably, and finally be able to pull in NBC. I get anywhere from85%-95% on all stations now....

EricHarrison

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

does anyone know if wews shuts its digital transmitted off during nonprime time hours the way ch43 does?

thriller

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

TAKOSAN,
From North Olmsted point your antenna southeast past the airport to the Parma tv towers. That should give you 70 to 100% if your antenna is on the roof. Slightly less if antenna is in the attic. WEWS CH 5-1 seems to be doing some upgading lately. Their signal is on & off, up & down, all over the map. Hopefully they and CH 43-1 will have it all fixed by the time the new fall shows start.

Ben Music
North Ridgeville

Ben Music

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

ABC is down again today. I hope this is not going to be an ongoing problem. With MNF starting soon....maybe they are upgrading to DD 5.1!

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

WEWS is at 0's for me I get NBC and fox great, but CBS is also bad now(18-30's). What are you guys getting CBS at?

Thanks,
Fred

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I also forgot to add, that WKYC(NBC) sometimes has an occasional dropout. Are any of yoy having this problem? If so, we need to organize a group call in to have them fix this.

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Channel 3 is usually so prone to dropouts for me that I don't ever watch it. Except for the radar channel lately. You know, with all the rain and all.

I'm in Medina, and signal strength is about 85%. I just chalk it up to the fact that it's a low VHF station, and there must be a lot of "interference" on the channel. But if it's something that they could fix on there end, I'd be all for it!

ZManCartFan

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

ABC is still down (sunday night) was a 100% on friday- so maybe they are working on the STRENGTH of their antennas...

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Just spoke with Mr. Baird in engineering. Digital is down and he was on the phone ordering parts. Also Ch 43 is on the air 12-12 daily. I receive CBS at 69 % in Bath. Many evenings signal does break up around 9

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Thanks for the update. Any mention on when ABC might upgrade to DD 5.1 audio?

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

ABC is still down today.

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Hey guys, just a thought,

Since this thread keeps growing about all the crap we get from local dtv in cleveland, and since it has a decent thread title, how about we make this an unofficial official cleveland thread to post all the cleveland problems in?

Just a thought.

btw, WKYC is always 100% for me. I just chalk that up to being lucky. I lose the signal occasionaly though when my dad runs his paper shredder, or with the dish washer running. But thats just cuz those morons put it on channel 2 instead of going UHF.

Mike

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Stuewe
Hey guys, just a thought,

Since this thread keeps growing about all the crap we get from local dtv in cleveland, and since it has a decent thread title, how about we make this an unofficial official cleveland thread to post all the cleveland problems in?

Just a thought.

btw, WKYC is always 100% for me. I just chalk that up to being lucky. I lose the signal occasionaly though when my dad runs his paper shredder, or with the dish washer running. But thats just cuz those morons put it on channel 2 instead of going UHF.

Mike
Great idea Mike. Lets make this the offical thread.

Ken H....can you help with this??? Please add "Offical" to the title.

Thanks,

Jim

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

abc still down in cleveland -- this is getting ridiculous

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Just spoke with engineering at Ch 5. Waiting on parts that were ordered. Earliest is Thursday could be as late as Mon. Hopes to have it fixed by Monday Night. He used the word HOPE. That is the latest and greatest from Cleve. Keep this forum going

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Hey, as long as ABC has it ready to go by the first Monday night game, thats all I care about.

EricHarrison

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Yeah, Football is the main concern, although its a good thing its not the Browns playing Monday Night. Can't wait til the uproar occurs when something goes wrong when the Browns are on MNF on that Sunday game against the 49ers on CBS.

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Heres hoping that with the repairs they are making, they are also upgrading to 5.1

EricHarrison

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I want to touch on 2 things here
First, if there is a program that should be in HD but our local isn't broadcasting it in HD, then call the channels newsroom(the news room is always open), and then ask for MASTER CONTROLL. Once they answer, ask them to flip the switch, and bam, you have HDTV)

Here are the numbers to call to get in touch with our locals(these may be a little out of date, but I haven't had any problems):

Thanks To Blaney for posting these 2 years ago


WKYC, analog 3, D-2, NBC
general 216-344-3333
newsroom 216-344-3300
Rex Rickly, chief engineer 216-344-3353
Donna Cropf, Programming 216-344-3559


WOIO, analog 19, D-10, CBS
general 877-929-1943
Harry Wilkens, chief engineer, 216-367-7450
Jim Kopanski **engineer, good guy 216-367-7455
Bryan Anderson, programming 216-367-7114


WJW, Analog 8, D-31, Fox
general 216-432-4240
John Cifani, engineer 216-432-4888


WEWS, analog 5, D-15, ABC
general 216-431-5555
Ken Jackson, chief engineer 216-431-3494


About a year or two back, we had a problem with WKYC(freequent dropouts(about every 10 seconds). We organized a group call in effort, and each cleveland area member called in a few times to let engineering know that there were digital channel viewers who want the channel fixed. After a week of the calls, the channel was fixed!

We need to do something like this again(on a larger scale(there are more of us know then there were 2 years ago)).

The Problems that each local has:

ABC:
Not on the air at the moment.
No 5.1 sound(they have been promising this to us for over a year!!!!!)

NBC:
Still having occasional dropouts, but nowhere as freequent as they once were

CBS:
Their signal strenth is crap! It has never been good, and it wont be(rumor has it that they bought the wrong type of antenna for our region).

FOX:
I dont have any problems with FAUX because they dont broadcast in HDTV!

PBS:
Ok, others have had HDTV through PBS for 2 years now.....Lets get it together PBS. I understand how Public TV works, but cmon

WB:
They have been offering programming for over 6 months....Lets get on the bandwagon here!


I think that if you guys are interested in solving some of these problems, we need to work together. If you guys are up for it we can organize and pick a local per week to annoy untill everything is up to our standards. We may be annoying them, but once HDTV becomes more mainstream, they will be glad that everything is up and running.


Fred

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

WEWS chief engineer is John Workman.
Anyone else notice that WKYC takes a little longer to pop in. I have spoken with Rex, I know him personally and they are aware of the problem. It is a PSIP problem and they do not know how to solve it. Also bad weather does affect their signal more than others. Do not be fooled by claims that digital signals are not affected by rain. They are. Keep this group running!!!
I do not think anyone in Cleve is broadcasting DD 5.1. If they are let me know.

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Fred,

as far as PBS and the WB are concerned, I think WVIZ and WBNX have legal issues to deal with. I know WBNX has a problem with their digital station broadcasting into Canada. Not sure what the issue was with WVIZ. Oddly, one day my dad ran into, I believe on of the engineers, of WVIZ. He said once the legal issues get cleared up, they will have to order the equipment, and that will take at least 4 months to receive and install. This was last month so at the earliest we are looking at Winter for WVIZ.

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

you are right, there is no 5.1 in cleveland right now. if anyone is close, it is ABC, but they have been saying that they will upgrade soon, but they never do..

EricHarrison

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

hey guys i live in willowick by rt 2 and e 305 intersection im only able to get 8-1 and 43-1. im usin the stealth vhf/uhf in my attic. im gettin be picture with that antenna than i was with my radio sahck giant antenna. anything else i can do to get the other stations in?
thanx zelko

QWIKK6

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Group.

I'm all for picking a station to pester each week. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

On another note. I have the Dish 6000 receiver and could get CBS HD via the satellite. Has anyone had any luck getting the waiver from CBS WOIO?
WOIOs poor signal strength has ruined many great HD programs for me over the last nine months.

Ray

Rbuchina

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I tried years ago and no waiver given. Stations are pretty strict about that

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Who do you suggest we pester first?

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I vote for NBC - cause their signal sucks

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I think we are getting SD during the US Open Tennis. I know some of the matches are SD only, but I think the Womens match on now should be in HD, and it isnt. I would call, but I don't really care. And I seem to recall that CBS Cleveland sucked so freakin much during the Masters and calling them didn't do jack.

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

It's in HD now. Looks good!

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Anybody else notice CSI last night was not widescreen on the digital channel. Looks like they sere sending SDTV picture instead of HDTV. This is not acceptable. Call them

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Rlsockshin I noticed CSI was SD as well. I was just flippin through the channels though. Didnt watch it all. There was during one moment CSI in HD. But later in the night it was all SD again.

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Well, I sent an email to the folks at ABC, Jim Baird, Gary Stark, Moreen Bailey, John Workman and Ric Harris pestering about 5.1 for MNF. Lets see if I get a response. I also sent an email to the folks at CBS, James Stunek, Judi Smith, and Lisa McManus, pestering them also regarding 5.1......

EricHarrison

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I live on the eastside and ABC ( WEWS ) has been down all evening. I thought it was a quirk in my antenna.

I got my SIR T-151 two weeks ago and have been getting all channels via the Silver Sensor.
I stopped using the dish two years ago so I attached the Silver Sensor to the dish and connected it to the Coaxial cable and have been getting all channels since last week with MNF having a gorgeous picture.
Tonite, CBS and ABC were down but Faux and WKYC were fine.

I tried the Optima ( UHF, VHF ) indoor antenna both inside and out but the loop did not obtain the UHF well, though 3 was good and 10 came in often.

Silver Sensor ( $ 40.00 at Sears ) is a UHF antenna but it not only received Channels 15 and 31, but also Channel 3 very well and Channel 10 ( CBS ) most times. The outside usage of the antenna is better than the set top.

I am grateful for the information in this Forum and it is most useful to me to hear that a particular channel is down so I don't need to go out and reposition the antenna.
Thanks to all.

kagat

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Is ABC down again tonight?

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by bassguitarman
The movie even had the broadcast in HDTV logo at the beginning
Not sure what to tell you. I was at the local bar catching my Fins on the big screen and having a few beverages. I know that CBS was not having any preseason games in HD, but if the movie had the logo for HD then someone must not have flipped the switch in the control room. When that happens you need to call the station and ask for the control room and tell them that the show is not in HD....and to flip the switch!

Hope this helps!

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Football on Friday night was not scheduled for HD....thus you didn't see it.

Not sure if the movie was done in HD or not....you should check the programming forum.

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

The movie even had the broadcast in HDTV logo at the beginning

bassguitarman

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

WOIO is fine signal wise. It just isnt doing any HD.
I noticed that on football friday night and the movie 11-14 last night.

bassguitarman

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I called an engineer last night who said that he didn't know when the 5.1 sound would be up, because their transponder is down, and he didn't think the digital channel was working.

BAsically, we have to annoy them more to get our 5.1 sound.


Parsons, we need to call WKYC too! I am getting it at 100, but every three seconds, it drops to 93. It sounds good, but there are bad audio dropouts here, and it bothers me.

Please keep the effort alive guys!

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

CBS is on now with a signal close to 90%.

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I was very happy to see a great signal on ABC (85%). NBC is finally coming in just ok at (50-60%). But CBS is out again. Bums me out, I love CSI in HD.
I will call tomorrow. Just once, I would love to have all channels to chose from. Lets continue calling these guys!

ParsonsBri

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Today, lets call WEWS (Thursday)
Give the head guy Ken Jackson a call and lets let him know that we are happy the station is up again, but we want 5.1 sound! Other markets have had this for almost 2 years now, and now its our turn.

Please post after you call.


WEWS, analog 5, D-15, ABC
general 216-431-5555
Ken Jackson, chief engineer 216-431-3494

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

well 5-1 looked good and steady for me but i couldnt get cbs at all. was it off last night?

QWIKK6

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Who are we calling today?

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

CBS is still up. That number I gave for transmitter site could be valuable. Sorry for dup posts earlier

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

a week or two -- i already called again - wondering why there wasnt 5.1- - i thought thats what they were upgrading i said .... lol

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Ok, I was wondering why my projector had a decent signal, but my mits didn't

Just for fun, I replaced the wire from the antenna splitter to the mits, and pow, a 79 signal reading! I would still like to work on them more(this si the weakest channel out there, and members more than 10 miles may have problems.

I am going to snake the wire through the wall now

You have a good point Denton, now its time for 5.1 sound!

NBC also needs some love

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

all is well in cleveland -- FOR NOW -- lets stay on it

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

ABC is back on, and I am getting a 100 reading!
CBS is still bad, but I will go check my projector(the readings I have been giving are from my mits)
I switched to NBC for a second, and there was a little dropout(and the signal was at 93(it was always at 100).

Way to go guys on the ABC thing, now we wait for a week or two before we pester them for 5.1 sound

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by rlockshin
And CBS is down. Just spoke with engineering 440-845-1919 rings to the transmitter and they are down. Picture pops in and out. CBS is my weakest and definately the worst. It also has the most shows in HD. Lets work them over to increase power and quality
CBS seems to be better now.

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

And CBS is down. Just spoke with engineering 440-845-1919 rings to the transmitter and they are down. Picture pops in and out. CBS is my weakest and definately the worst. It also has the most shows in HD. Lets work them over to increase power and quality

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

And CBS is down. Just spoke with engineering 440-845-1919 rings to the transmitter and they are down. Picture pops in and out. CBS is my weakest and definately the worst. It also has the most shows in HD. Lets work them over to increase power and quality

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

And CBS is down. Just spoke with engineering 440-845-1919 rings to the transmitter and they are down. Picture pops in and out. CBS is my weakest and definately the worst. It also has the most shows in HD. Lets work them over to increase power and quality

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

ABC is back up!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by danton3
well i hope they are working on it at least- - we wont have HD MNF tonight boys -- but its only pre season
This may only work for people South East of Cleveland, but I turned my roof-top antenna toward Youngstown and Watched MNF in HD on 36-1, WYTV. I was only getting about a 45 to 50% signal, but it locked in and looked great. If you have a high antenna with a rotor, give it a try.

KenNEO

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Matt
Is anyone not getting WOIO channel 19-1 tonight? (Monday) Seems like CSI is dead digital wise.. It's a sad day for Cleveland HDTV if it's not just me..
Its been off and on for awhile Please join the call in effort. I am in Rocky River(about 10 miles out from the tower with a big ugly antenna on my house) and their signal stinks. It should be at 80-100 not 18-30!

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I just left a message on Jim's voice mail letting him know that I have spoken to several Cleveland area members who also complained about a very weak signal. All we need is for more members to call tomorrow(I will be calling again as well). I just layed the foundation, now lets get this done.

Next on the List:
WKYC Channel 3

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I had no problem with CSI tonight. I already saw this episode so I was only on the channel for a few minutes. I was really hoping for MNF but as long as they are working on it I'm happy.

hdgeek

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

So what's the schedule for calling? I'm in.

Ro Dog

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Is anyone not getting WOIO channel 19-1 tonight? (Monday) Seems like CSI is dead digital wise.. It's a sad day for Cleveland HDTV if it's not just me..

Cactus Matt

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Lets call CBS tomorrow(Tuesday, August 19th) if thats cool with everyone else.


WOIO, analog 19, D-10, CBS
general 877-929-1943
Jim Kopanski **engineer, good guy 216-367-7455

These numbers may be a little dated, but just call and ask for engineering. Let them know that their signal sucks(well, that there signal is worse than all of the other locals, and you were wondering when they planned to fix this). If enough of us call, we can possibly see some results. I am getting 19-27 readings from CBS, and I am getting 90-100 readings with everyone else.

Awhile back, someone mentioned that they bought the wrong antenna for Cleveland's terrain. I think CBS has alot of quality programming to offer, and we didn't spend all of the money that we did to not receive programming. I bought the Directv NFL package that will air the CBS weekly football game in HDTV, but for those of you that don't get the NFL package(who also have trouble getting CBS), it will be a long season unless we act now! Also, the Masters, Final Four, and all of the other great sporting events that CBS does wont be available

Lets get together and work as a team!

Please call, it will only take 2 minutes.

Fred DeGrandis

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

No signal at this time. Looks like they need more time. I know some of you wanted the game tonight in order to see your teams play, but lets just hope they fix it properly and we get all the regular season MNF games.

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

well i hope they are working on it at least- - we wont have HD MNF tonight boys -- but its only pre season

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Still no Channel 5-1. Hopes for MNF tonight are dwindling. I was really hopin to see the Rams too. 2nd favorite team in the NFL, and really lookin forward to seeing what Sehorn can do for them.

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I Just spoke with Ken Jackson (Chief Engineer) at WEWS. He stated that the director of engineering and some of his staff have been out at the transmitter all day trying to fix it. He also said that to this point he had not heard that it was fixed yet. He expected to get a call when repairs are completed. He stated that while getting it fixed for MNF was not necessarily the focus of the repair, he hoped that it would be up by tonight at 8pm. He said that they are not "commercializing it yet". I assume he means that they are not marketing the HDTV signal to customers yet, so the sense of urgency is not as high as it would be otherwise. He seemed like a nice guy and sensitive to our wishes to get the signal back up, but did not share a whole lot of detail.

I guess we are just going to have to be patient with them.

ParsonsBri

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Shark, I just had it installed a week ago Saturday and the best we could get on 110 is 87%. However on the other two I am pulling 92-94%. I am on the west side in Avon.

ParsonsBri

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I know this is off topic, but I need some input from you guys. Do any of you have a D* Phase III dish? If you do what is the signal strength that you are pulling in??? I just got one installed Saturday and I'm only getting 78-84%....however, the installer had never done a three LNB dish before and I was wondering if I should have someone come out to tweak it more.

Thanks for the input!

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

parsons -- i just called and left a similar message- - i want it for MNF --

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I just called Ken Jackson at WEWS and got voice mail. I left a message about how disappointed I am that I cant get the signal. I also asked that he call me back and let me know if repairs will be made in time for MNF.
I doubt I will hear anything, but the more of us that call the better!

ParsonsBri

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

dont hold your breath - abc has been on and off for about a month now - -started with the flooding we had in late july

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Thank god I checked in here. I just installed a new Zenith 520 and set up my ota. I thought I was going crazy moving my antenna all over the place and still no ABC. I could have saved a lot of grief by checking in. I will be really pissed if they do not have this fixed by the game tomorrow night.
What is up with WEWS? When and why did the digital signal go out?

BP

ParsonsBri

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

anyone else tried to call? im calling ABC tomorrow

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Even though the majority of the outage was overnight, I doubt the power being off helped WEWS get their act together any quicker.

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

WKYC has signal dropouts that need attention
WOIO has been bad ever since I have owned an HDTV! Back in the good old days(when everyone was up at full power, CBS was still a 60 signal rating which is unacceptable).
Newschannel 5 has been promising 5.1 sound for at least a year, and always putting it off.

All 3 of these are great ideas(I guess we will wait on the others(PBS and WB)), but we should start our call-a-thon

What do you guys think about calling each station on the same day? It will only take 2 minutes per each channel, and we can call on a daily basis until their problems are resolved. Also, it doesn't hurt to call more than once per day(disguising your voice like a woman doesn't hurt...Ok, just kidding), and you will be surprised how fast the digital channels will be fixed.

If this is too much, someone please come up with a schedule that we can adhere to.

Thanks,
Fred

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

just called and left a message -- lets get on these guys - i dont want them to think that there are only limited customers and that they are just upgrading for 5 years down the road--

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Just spoke with the head engineer. Digital hopes to be fixed in time for the game, but he did not sound optimistic. Waiting on parts and the power outage yesterday set them back. I did ask about 5.1 audio and they are looking at it. I told him he would be the first in Cleve to have it. Call and pester them and we could get 5.1 audio. 216-431-5555 ask for engineering. John Workman head, Jim Beird asst. More calls about 5.1 and they will probably do it. Let's pretend that we are larger than what we really are

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

abc still down

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Quote:
Originally posted by Rbuchina
Group.

I have the Dish 6000 receiver and could get CBS HD via the satellite. Has anyone had any luck getting the waiver from CBS WOIO?

Ray
I applied for, and received a waiver when Dish first offered CBS on 9453. I rarely watch it though because channel 19 is very solid now. NBC is still the one that drops out the most and the one I watch the most. Can anyone using a Dish 6000 receiver see 3-3? I can only glimpse it as I change off the station. 3-1 and 3-2 come in OK. I am in Brunswick using a StealthTenna mounted at the one story level of a two story house.

LowDefinition

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

As of 8 this morning WEWS is still not active. I hope they deliver as sort of promised by Monday Football

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I vote for NBC - easily the most problematic channel I receive in Medina.

But I have to say that I actually LIKE the 3-3 material. With D*, we don't get a local forecast on the Weather Channel, so it's amazing how many times a week I flip over to 3-3 for a quick check on the radar.

But they could certainly drop 3-2. Just because they produce a digital signal for cable distribution doesn't mean that they have to actually broadcast that signal, right?

ZManCartFan

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

3-2 is a signal sent for cable distribution. It cannot be dropped. I personally prefer WOIO, their signal is my weakest and breaks up many evenings and in bad weather

rlockshin

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

someone think of a plan -- maybe we can pick a day - and have some of us call at certain times- - spreading it out - so they know there are several customers with concerns. . and we should all have the same thing to say too

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

If we pester WKYC, NBC Affiliate. I think one of the things we bother them with is the multicasting. Does anyone really watch 3-2 or 3-3? It just ruins the signal for 3-1. NASCAR looks like crap cuz of the fast motion. Same with the Triple Crown and that was all HD.

But seriously, 3-2 is such low quality that if you wanted the unstretched version of the show, it would be better just to watch analog. And 3-3? Use the freaking computer if you wanna know whats up with the weather.

As far as the dropouts, maybe thats just interference for some of you guys. I don't watch NBC much, but when I do, I rarely if ever get dropouts. Next time it happens for you guys post on this board and I can check my reception.

Stu

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

i just called and left a message
-- nbc is the station i have the most trouble with --- but im willing to call all - cause it really depends where you are and whta antenna you have

danton3

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Thanks bud! I hope that all of this wont be needed soon, and that all of our locals work!

Fred DeGrandis

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

My son and I noticed problems with the movie
just after it started, we watched in in SD for a while and when we went back to HD it was fine.
From your location the weather may Have had an impact, but I live across the street from the WEWS TX site and it was bad here.

/Dan

intermod

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I watched the PGA tour event on the digital channel earlier in the day and did not have any problems. However, I didn't watch any of the HD stuff last night, so I can't comment on that portion of programming. Just my 2 cents

I also suggest that we all call the station and let them know about the problems you guys had last night, so it's taken care of by Thursday night.

Jim

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Thats possible, I live in Wellington. But it sounds like maybe the station was having issues in the beginning, and got it fixed early in the movie if we both were having problems.

EricHarrison

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Yo fellow Clevelanders!
This thread has been so helpful and I think it is great that we are getting together to call these guys to keep the pressure on and letting them know we are out there.

The reason I am posting this here is due to the local nature of the thread.
Anyway, I need some advice on an antenna. I live in Avon which is about 25 miles from the "antenna farm". Over the past few years I have accumulated 3 antennas. 1. Terk TV42 (goes on the dish). 2. Terk TV55. 3. Radio Shack 160" boom length.

I know that the obvious choice here is to go with the Radio Shack model. However, I am somewhat limited in that I do not want to install a big ugly antenna if I can help it. I have had a little success with the TV55 putting in an east facing window (temporarily). NBC seems to always be weak no matter what I do. Others seem ok.

Any advice?

ParsonsBri

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

hello
i live in akron as well, after trying few other antennas I finally got a outside antenna on my roof and wolla i get everyhting now, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and this worship channel but i forgot the brand name of the antenna, I know u dont wanna put up a big ugly thing outside but if u are successful otherwise i wanna know about that too. I live in firestone park area.

mofiz

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Parsons let me ask you this simple question.

Would you rather have a great looking picture on the TV, or a great looking roof?

Right, the TV.

So go put that 160" antenna up. Throw a rotor on that baby, and you should pick up a whole lot of great stuff. (like CBS out of Toledo when 19 is down).

Stu

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Well, game day is here. I haven't had the TV on much this week so I have not checked out ABC....are we still up and running with no problems?


Jim

Shark73

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I too am glad to see a local Cleveland thread going in this forum.

Regarding antennas, I live in Olmsted Twp. and tried numerous indoor antennas to no avail - none of them worked for me. I finally had a chimmney-mounted UHF/VHF antenna professionally installed and have been able to receive all 5 of the currently available digital stations.

So, I highly recommend going with an outdoor antenna. For the Cleveland stations all the broadcast towers are roughly in the same direction, so I don't think you need a rotor unless you want to receive Toledo or other locations as suggested.

I've read mostly bad reviews about the Terk 55 antenna.

Good luck!

thscott

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

I am trying to avoid putting up a big ugly outdoor antenna, too, and have experimented with a few things with mixed success. Both antennas were tested in a 3rd floor guest room with double windows facing the transmitters in Parma. I am in Shaker Heights.

1. Radio Shack 120" VHF/UHF double boom - installed this for Super Bowl last January - worked well on all DTV locals until the trees grew in summertime. Foliage directly in line of sight apparently blocking good reception. Also had problems picking up signal in heavy snow last winter. I'll bet putting this baby outside on the chimney and up higher would do the trick.

2. Now I am testing the ChannelMaster 4228 double bow-tie "mother of all UHF antennas". This picks up all the DTV locals thru the trees *except* is flaky on WKYC (NBC). Alas, WKYC-DT is on VHF channel 2 which this antenna was not designed for...



Hope that helps!

paule123

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Seriously guys, I dont know what the deal is with some of you. Antennas are not big and ugly. They may be big, but they look cool, not ugly. So if you are gonna complaign about the look, at least have some dignity and blame it on the wife.

Mike_Stuewe

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Yeah, I agree with Mike_Stuewe. I live more than 45-50 miles from the transmitters, and my only option was going with rooftop antennae. I live in a newer development, and I am the only one who has a rooftop antennae. Its been up since last January, and noone, I mean noone in my neighborhood has said anything about it. (But they sure as hell will make comments if I dont mow my yard and it gets a little long.) I don't even notice it anymore, and I know its there.

EricHarrison

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

Look, I will absolutely resort to putting up the big one if necessary, I just dont want to if I dont have to. Even with the bad reviews of the Terk 55, I get average to above average signal on all except WKYC. Not much there anyway, but I would still like to have it.
I guess I will continue to experiment only to put up the big one in the long run (that is if the wife lets me )

MNF tonight and ABC is coming in strong as of 7:31pm. We'll see about kickoff...

ParsonsBri

Cleveland, OH - HDTV

MNF was full of dropouts here in Mentor. I called and left a message on the Cheif Engineers machine. I asked about DD 5.1 too.

Ray

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