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Question PSB Speakers Owners thread ( AVS Forum Speakers )
Updated: 2008-05-31 10:00:33 (1169)
PSB Speakers Owners thread

How do you like your PSB Speaker setup? What's your room size, receiver, sub, speakers that you are using and what is your usage percentage (movies/music). Are you planning on upgrading anytime soon? If so, why and what is your upgrade path? What speakers have you owned prior? How would your rate your setup on a scale of 1 to 5? Feel free to include coments on individual components, things you like or dislike.


My System:
front l/r - PSB Speakers Image T55 Tower Speakers
Center - PSB Speakers Image C40 Center channel
surrounds - PSB Speakers Image S50 bi-polar Surround
subwoofer - PSB Speakers SubSeries 6i Subwoofer

Electronics:
Receiver - NAD T763 AV Receiver
DVD Player - NAD T534 DVD Player

I also connect my new Intel Imac to it for everyday listening of mp3's
I am thinking of going up to the PSB Platinum Line of Speakers Or a PSB In-Cabinet Speaker Setup when I am done with these.

Does anyone have any PSB Platinum Out there? are they worth the jump in price? I won't be upgrading for a while but i thought I could at least start dreaming of my next system.

Answers: PSB Speakers Owners thread ( AVS Forum Speakers )
PSB Speakers Owners thread

Welcome and enjoy

mwz26

PSB Speakers Owners thread

I am making the step up from an Onkyo HTIB setup to a real system.I will be powering my new setup with an Onkyo 605 and am planning on getting a matching center along with a sub and rears to make a 5.1 setup. I went to my local PSB dealer to check out a few models and to be honest it was a pretty rag tag operation,they did not have the T45's on hand for me to listen to and did not have the B25's either so all i got to hear was the B15's and the T55's. So i am just wondering if anyone out there can maybe compare the sound of the T45 and the T55's because the 55 is all i am going to be able to hear and i would think the sound would be quite different between the two.

Thanks for your input

KindSmoker

PSB Speakers Owners thread

anybody?

KindSmoker

PSB Speakers Owners thread

In my experience I would say that the T45's sound excellent with a a little less on the low end. Midrange is really good with the T45's. This is of course all dependent on your room/environment. If you are in a 15x20 room, the 45's will not fill the room well enough. Th 55's would do a much better job. now, if your room is 10x12/14, then the 45's would be great.

This all assumes you have a good sub like the 6i or 5i. Probably 5i in the smaller room, 6i for the larger.

Personally if you have the money in your budget, the 65's are the way to go, but if not, definitely get the 55's. The 55's leave more room for expansion in the future and still sound good in the smaller rooms.

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FoeHammer865

PSB Speakers Owners thread

To be quite honest, I do have a complaint of the Image series towers. I am forced to put my home theatre in a room with a lower than ideal ceiling, ie, not 8 feet high. When I have to do this, the nearly 40 inch high speakers really limit my home theatre screen height. I wish I could use the drivers of the T65 and get the same sound in a 35 inch high cabinet. I know it's practically impossible, but I just wish I could do it. Make the T65's shorter but a few inches longer and wider. Oh well... I may have to compromise and use something else as my front speakers. I was thinking of taking the C60 centres as left and right fronts, but the tweeters would be very low unless I modified them to make them look like short T55's.

cpc

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Why not get an acoustically transparent screen? If space isn't a problem why not place the T65s on the left and right of the screen. I wouldn't think using a center as a L+R main would be the best alternative. Using a center in a vertical position always presents problems. Remember that the centers are a 2 way design and all the towers i believe are a 2 1/2 way design. There are always issues of cancelation using a center which 2 woofers emit the same frequencies. I always thought the Image series centers were inferior to their counterparts. I was hoping PSB would come around and make a superior 3-way design.

aboroth00

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Not into an acoustically transparent screen. I've heard them and while they're ok, I'd prefer fully exposed speakers for home theatre.

cpc

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by cpc
Not into an acoustically transparent screen. I've heard them and while they're ok, I'd prefer fully exposed speakers for home theatre.
Then you haven't heard an acoustically TRANSPARENT screen. You've heard/seen a screen with holes in it that claims that it is transparent, but isn't actually transparent. If it was, you wouldn't be able to hear a difference when set up properly.

Later

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FoeHammer865

PSB Speakers Owners thread

hi,
I've just listen to the PSB Alpha 5.1 full system during my search for my new receiver.
anyone here using a Yamaha RX-V861 to power these speakers?
the dealer quoted me quite a reasonable price for the set ($630), were quite interested but I'll need to try out my new Yamaha on my existing satellite 1st, before decided to upgrade.
Anyone here with the same equipment that I have that might help me to decide?

AVR : Yamaha RX-V861
DVD: Playstation 3 and Samsung HD-950
TV: Sony Bravia 40" LCD

mpyw

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Hello, this is my first post to the avsforums. I am also a happy, new PSB owner. I recently purchased the following PSB speaker configuration:

L and R: T65
Center: C60
Sub: 6i
Surrounds: S50

I'm wondering if any S50 owners out there have suggestions for appropriate speaker stands for the S50's. They come with wall brackets attached to the back of the speakers, so I'm hoping to use those to mount each speaker to a stand, if that's possible.

Thanks a lot.

rick_sf

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoeHammer865
Then you haven't heard an acoustically TRANSPARENT screen. You've heard/seen a screen with holes in it that claims that it is transparent, but isn't actually transparent. If it was, you wouldn't be able to hear a difference when set up properly.

Later

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I'll keep my mind, ears and eyes open, but I would figure if there was a totally acoustically transparent screen, it would, a) Still have some affect on the sound, b) have holes which interfere with the picture or c) be very very expensive

cpc

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by cpc
I'll keep my mind, ears and eyes open, but I would figure if there was a totally acoustically transparent screen, it would, a) Still have some affect on the sound, b) have holes which interfere with the picture or c) be very very expensive
To each his own I guess. The key to this hobby, is whether you are happy with your setup or not. If you are, then it is a success, if not, you got work to do. And your happiness might be another mans misery.

FoeHammer865

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoeHammer865
To each his own I guess. The key to this hobby, is whether you are happy with your setup or not. If you are, then it is a success, if not, you got work to do. And your happiness might be another mans misery.
I guess I'd have to hear it and see it for myself. I'll shop.

cpc

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Soon to be a PSB Platinum owner--I have laid down the card to get a pair of T6. They arrive Aug 9. From a diff source a pair of M2 on the way. I need a C4 center--any help appreciated. Thanks

thebeatles67

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Hi, My PSB Alpha T1 sound horrible playing some ladies singer's voice on higher pitch....it's like the speakers are broken with some hole and the sound came out like the volume is too loud (or is it too loud?), but I played the REM song with same db and no problem at all....

anyone with the same problem? Or I bought a faulty CD?

mpyw

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Around 10 years ago I was within 1" of buying stratus silvers for my (then) new HT (laughably by most standards but ok by me then). Anyway the audio store owner gave me a break on some custom made I liked about as much but which were cheaper...kinda regret that now since sound matching and size are not what I want for today...

Still, I did buy a pair of the PDB Alphas and used them alternatively as surrounds and as part of my 2 channel stereo in another room...love them lil fellers.

Now I'm back in the HT speaker shopping mode and read that the stratus line is no longer? That's sad but I'm still interested in PSB...the first semi-quality audio item I ever owned or got close to owning.

My question is, is it reasonbly easy/safe to purchase PSB off the web these days or should I be looking for a new HT/Audio store?

I'm looking into other brands but have a nostalgia for that first audio purchase of PSB so I'd love to check them out again if I can find a good place in Utah to do so.

critterjr

PSB Speakers Owners thread

I have purchased through Ebay and have been pretty satisfied with what I received. I don't know about other venues for PSB's on the web.

As for the Stratus line being gone. There has been a arguably better replacement for the mid-pack PSB line. It's called the G-Design Series. G-Design Series

Good luck!

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FoeHammer865

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by mpyw
Hi, My PSB Alpha T1 sound horrible playing some ladies singer's voice on higher pitch....it's like the speakers are broken with some hole and the sound came out like the volume is too loud (or is it too loud?), but I played the REM song with same db and no problem at all....

anyone with the same problem? Or I bought a faulty CD?
Ok, my fault , I've max the volume of the PS3 output so the T1 sound horrible and distorted.....after I reduce the volume to normal...the T1 sounded very good just like when I first heard it....

FYI, the T1 will still sound horrible if you max out the PS3 volume output but reduce the receiver's volume, you have to adjust the PS3 output back to normal, then you'll get the "normal" sound again

mpyw

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Thanks Foehammer. I'm now on a mission to locate a dealer in SLC who's got a good listening room where I can find these and start some comparison listening. Time to dig out my reference DVDs. That was what sold the wife on the entire package last time

critterjr

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Any news on the new T7 line that is the replacement for the Stratus series. I saw these mentioned at CES in January for a summer or fall time frame but haven't heard anything since.

VTGOLFER

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Happy day today. Drove 500 miles roundtrip today to pick up my PSB platinum T6 towers. They look fabulous to me. Sunday is connection day unfortunately as I have to be out of town. I am coupling these with a pair of M2 monitors for the rear and a C4 center. The SVS PB13 Ultra sub is due at end of the month when SVS starts shipping and Im in business I hope-whew. Any other Platinum owners on the forum chime in with your experiences.

thebeatles67

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeatles67
Happy day today. Drove 500 miles roundtrip today to pick up my PSB platinum T6 towers. They look fabulous to me. Sunday is connection day unfortunately as I have to be out of town. I am coupling these with a pair of M2 monitors for the rear and a C4 center. The SVS PB13 Ultra sub is due at end of the month when SVS starts shipping and Im in business I hope-whew. Any other Platinum owners on the forum chime in with your experiences.
Let's see some pictures. We'd love to see your Platinums set up. At least I would.

TREVOR

p.s. Anybody else see any info about "T7's"? Never heard of these.

FoeHammer865

PSB Speakers Owners thread

I was curious so I went to DMC to check out PSB prices (about the same for A stock but some great B stock deals). Anyway I noticed that they list 3 finish options on the Image T55 speakers. The black, maple...and a Sienna/Cherry?

When I go to PSBs site and from what I'd seen before there were only black and maple...neither of which I really liked much. Is the Sienna a new color or something that got discontinued? It might be a tie breaker for me if some other things go the way I'm suspecting.

critterjr

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by critterjr
I was curious so I went to DMC to check out PSB prices (about the same for A stock but some great B stock deals). Anyway I noticed that they list 3 finish options on the Image T55 speakers. The black, maple...and a Sienna/Cherry?

When I go to PSBs site and from what I'd seen before there were only black and maple...neither of which I really liked much. Is the Sienna a new color or something that got discontinued? It might be a tie breaker for me if some other things go the way I'm suspecting.
The sienna/cherry is only available for a short time I think. It is not available in the U.S. but DMC gets its hands on a few sometimes so if you want them get them now. I think its close to the POLK rti series cherry( I could be be wrong).

Ryan

Ryan45872

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoeHammer865
Let's see some pictures. We'd love to see your Platinums set up. At least I would.

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p.s. Anybody else see any info about "T7's"? Never heard of these.
The 7T is basically a 6T(predecessor to the T65) with a powered subwoofer on the lowest woofer. Unfortunately the amp had many problems and PSB eventually discontinued the idea.

aboroth00

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Anybody hear about the Synchrony (?) series? It looks like it might be a pretty slick system. It seems to replace Platinum.

Alimentall

PSB Speakers Owners thread

I was wondering about the synchrony system as well, can't find the specifications yet. A friend just bought the T8s with the matching centre, and I've love those but getting into some property is a bigger priority. The synchrony line seems to be replacing two lines. The Synchrony 1 seems similar to the T6 in drivers, but with a nicer cabinet. I guess this means there will be no speaker with the range of the T8 unless the new system is quite impressive for its size.

Luap

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alimentall
Anybody hear about the Synchrony (?) series? It looks like it might be a pretty slick system. It seems to replace Platinum.
I heard from my PSB dealer that PSB will come out with two newer lines. One that will be in the same price line as the Platinums, which they will phase out later, and another one which will be even higher end than the Platinums, which would become their flagship line. I highly doubt they will soon replace the Stratus line, which has only been out for a short time. I've only heard that the SYncrony will look a lot better than the platinums. PSB finally got around to hiring an industrial designer to improve their speakers facade.

aboroth00

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboroth00
The 7T is basically a 6T(predecessor to the T65) with a powered subwoofer on the lowest woofer. Unfortunately the amp had many problems and PSB eventually discontinued the idea.
I think you mis-understood my question. VTGOLFER wrote a question asking about the "new T7 series". I had never heard of the "T7 series". This was something I was curious about.

Actually there was no such thing as a 7T. It was a 7PT for (powered Tower). I know. I have two of them with blown amps sitting in my guest-room.

With that being said, it sounded to me like VT might have had some info about a new line for PSB and I was curious if anyone else had more info.

Speaking of new lines, There currently is NO STRATUS series. Here's what PSB shows on their website as the current speaker lines they build:

Platinum
Synchrony
Vision
G-Design
Image
Alpha
CW (in wall)
CHS (in cabinet)

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FoeHammer865

PSB Speakers Owners thread

I am looking for 1 5t/ 9c grille and 2 image series tweeters... any ideas where i can find some? (besides factory direct)

I remember a gentleman was at least selling the tweeters and woofers.

Please e-mail me at nad1967@hotmail.com

nad1967

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by nosferatu2xlc
im considering buing a image b15 as a start for my new HT later on thay will be moved to the back as a surround. i have two questions

is PSB speakers (image) line more of music or HT ?

where is the best place to get PSB speakers i don't have any local dealers so it will have to me online i only like to black or sienna color.
I wouldn't be the best person to tell you, as my PSB Image set will arrive today. But, from my auditions I have to say that they are balanced well for both uses with them being slightly better for music. Reason why I chose them, as well as I chose my receiver (SR-5001)

PR Audio

PSB Speakers Owners thread

PR Audio-

Did you buy from Saturday Audio Exchange? If so, did you order and have your speakers shipped to you or do you live in the Chicago area? What do you think of them?

I ask because I am interested in purchasing some PSB speakers, but there are no dealers in my area.

james5

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by james5
PR Audio-

Did you buy from Saturday Audio Exchange? If so, did you order and have your speakers shipped to you or do you live in the Chicago area? What do you think of them?

I ask because I am interested in purchasing some PSB speakers, but there are no dealers in my area.
Yes, I bought from them. Originally I was going to buy maple, as they are on special, but my wife is planning on changing decor and wanted black as they are more neutral towards decoration. So, I paid extra, but still like that I saved $600.00 (including freight) over local pricing.

I live in Puerto Rico, and there are 4 PSB dealers within 20 minutes of my house. All of them sell at MSRP, and have limited stock. So, besides having to pay MSRP I would have had to wait 2-3 weeks for them to arrive. Tried to negotiate, but they would only discount 5-10%.

It was easy to work with Saturday Audio, Andy was very helpful and understanding. He sent a Paypal invoice for maple, and I asked him to change the order to black, so he sent me a new invoice, after I already paid I commented that my wife now said that maple might work, and he said that if I wanted maple he would sell them to me and refund the difference. Anyways, I decided to leave the order for black, even though I would have saved about $150.00+ for maple.

My air freight carrier just called to advised that the shipment is delayed because of bad weather in the States. Not SA fault, as they shipped the day they promised. I can tell you later how they arrived, but since SA sold me A-Stock in factory sealed boxes I don't expect any problems.

To answer your third question: Yes, I recommend them.

As a note, I originally wanted Monitor Audio, and requested a quote for RS6/Silver Center/SFX. SA refused to quote, as they do not sell Monitor A-Stock current models outside their region. But, they do sell Monitor Audio clearance items outside their region. The fact that they didn't quote and protect other Monitor Audio dealers says alot about their business ethics.

PR Audio

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by nad1967
I am looking for 1 5t/ 9c grille and 2 image series tweeters... any ideas where i can find some? (besides factory direct)

I remember a gentleman was at least selling the tweeters and woofers.

Please e-mail me at nad1967@hotmail.com
What's wrong with factory direct? It might very well be free.

Alimentall

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alimentall
What's wrong with factory direct? It might very well be free.
Alimentall is right, if they are not too old send PSB a sad email telling them how dissapointed you are. I'm sure you will get them free or at a very good discount.

PR Audio

PSB Speakers Owners thread

I don't think you even have to do that. Paul's *actual* repair policy is "be reasonable". They should be close to being within warranty, at least.

Alimentall

PSB Speakers Owners thread

From all I am hearing, I am glad I bought PSB's

PR Audio

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Hi PSB Guys

I am off to CES in a few weeks and was going to stop in and see whats new at PSB. I was wondering if anyone wanted me to take along a question to ask paul or another PSB engineer. I know they will have Synchrony set up and I am looking forward to hearing what most of the magazines are giving product of the year awards to.

firebook23

PSB Speakers Owners thread

any CW383 owners out there? are you using the Performance Enclosure? how do you like the speakers?

i tried to talk my wife into the CW800Es, but lost. :-)

anyway, on paper, the CW383 appear to have very similar drivers as the CW800E, but fewer.

i'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a number of these to use as front speakers for a few different media rooms and appreciate any input.

alfieri

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Fellas,

PSB does not want to replace my tweeters and they want to charge $20 shipping for 2 small tweeters bringing the bill over $100... which is why I am looking elsewhere...

I was hoping they would be a little more helpful but no luck.

nad1967

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Hi guys,

I've been following this thread as much as I can since I auditioned a set of B25s at my local audio shop. My question for you is which receiver do you use to power your systems? I was listening to the B25s on a marantz (only remember it was a stereo 2.1 channel) and am curious how different brands effect the sound reproduction. The marantz sounded nice and clean; I found for my musical taste I need a decent sub to keep up with my hunger for bass. I'm a recent college grad and want to try to not break the bank but would love to hear some options for well priced receivers. (If this should go in receivers I'll move it there)

Thanks

Martinet

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by nad1967
Fellas,

PSB does not want to replace my tweeters and they want to charge $20 shipping for 2 small tweeters bringing the bill over $100... which is why I am looking elsewhere...

I was hoping they would be a little more helpful but no luck.
If they ship UPS Ground, or FEDEX Ground that is a fair freight charge, as UPS, FEDEX, DHL, and other couriers have a minimum charge for packages and charge the same for 6 ounces or for 1 lbs. If the weight is 1.1 lbs. they will charge you for 2 lbs. They are not USPS, which charges for fractions (ounces). Also, PSB is in Canada, so it is international freight, and freight charges from the above mentioned companies is more expensive.

Call Saturday Audio, explain to them what you need. Since they move a large volume of PSB they might be willing to sell you what you need, and charge you no freight, because they can "piggyback" your tweeters with one of their stock orders.

PR Audio

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by nad1967
Fellas,

PSB does not want to replace my tweeters and they want to charge $20 shipping for 2 small tweeters bringing the bill over $100... which is why I am looking elsewhere...

I was hoping they would be a little more helpful but no luck.
How old are they? Do you have a receipt? Did you buy them new or used? Who's your dealer? What did you do to them?

Alimentall

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by firebook23
You would be surprised that these held their value very well. If they are the Gold's then I would say around #2-500 if they are the goldi's then a bit more
Hi,

What is the difference between "Gold's" and "Goldi's"?

Thanks!!

Hugh Jardon

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
Hi,

What is the difference between "Gold's" and "Goldi's"?

Thanks!!
The Gold i's went to the metal dome tweeter. The cabinet is narrower on the i's. There may be other differences that I am not aware of.

hjw

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Not exactly. The Golds have the same metal tweeter. In fact, I think all of the drivers were the same (or had only minor revisions) and the cabinet was the main upgrade. I have a set of pristine gloss black Golds that just got traded in.

Alimentall

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alimentall
Not exactly. The Golds have the same metal tweeter. In fact, I think all of the drivers were the same (or had only minor revisions) and the cabinet was the main upgrade. I have a set of pristine gloss black Golds that just got traded in.
Yes, you are correct.

Because my C6 does not have the metal tweeter and the C6i does, I was thinking the same was true of the Gold and Gold i's too, which it is not.

Thank you for the correction.

hjw

PSB Speakers Owners thread

I have the Image series T55 towers, S50 surrounds, and B15 monitors. The center channel that I have is the Platinum C2. Will the mismatched center work alright, or should I sell the C2 and buy the matching image series center? BTW, I ordered the B-15s from Saturday. The deal was too good to pass up.

rparody27

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by rparody27
I have the Image series T55 towers, S50 surrounds, and B15 monitors. The center channel that I have is the Platinum C2. Will the mismatched center work alright, or should I sell the C2 and buy the matching image series center? BTW, I ordered the B-15s from Saturday. The deal was too good to pass up.
They also have an excellent deal on the C40 Image Center, so you might want to consider it. If you prefer they also have C60, but it is not on sale, but even their regular pricing is better than other PSB dealers.

PR Audio

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Hello
I have the Stratus Goldi for mains
the Stratus C5 center
300is for the rears and the
Subsonic 2i sub love these speakers

DSEEGY

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by alfieri
any CW383 owners out there? are you using the Performance Enclosure? how do you like the speakers?

i tried to talk my wife into the CW800Es, but lost. :-)

anyway, on paper, the CW383 appear to have very similar drivers as the CW800E, but fewer.

i'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a number of these to use as front speakers for a few different media rooms and appreciate any input.
They are a great choice, but I would suggest getting the performance enclosure that PSB offers to get you better sound. Since you have the budget of the 800e's but the wife wants something smaller, I think the few extra $ for the performance enclosures would be a good investment.

firebook23

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by firebook23
They are a great choice, but I would suggest getting the performance enclosure that PSB offers to get you better sound. Since you have the budget of the 800e's but the wife wants something smaller, I think the few extra $ for the performance enclosures would be a good investment.

thanks for the confirmation on the CW383s. i'm going a lot on blind faith here based on what audiophiles are saying about PSB's entire product line. definitely planning on the performance enclosure for those and the CWS8 subwoofer.

i'm planning to use the CW260 for the surround speakers and skimping a little by not getting performance enclosures for them. i hope that's a good choice. feel free to disagree.

thanks.

alfieri

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by alfieri
thanks for the confirmation on the CW383s. i'm going a lot on blind faith here based on what audiophiles are saying about PSB's entire product line. definitely planning on the performance enclosure for those and the CWS8 subwoofer.

i'm planning to use the CW260 for the surround speakers and skimping a little by not getting performance enclosures for them. i hope that's a good choice. feel free to disagree.

thanks.


They are a good choice, as the 383 uses the same driver construction as the Platinum line so your definitely buying quality. I would go with Two CWS8 in-wall subwoofers for a little more low end or one CWS10 with a CWA-1 amp (which will run two CWS8's or two CWS10). you'll need another performance enclosure for the CWS8 if you don't get the CWS10 as the CWS8 is not a sealed speaker. But I don't think you'll need a performance enclosure for your rears as they really are not asked to do that much low end.

firebook23

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by nad1967
Fellas,

PSB does not want to replace my tweeters and they want to charge $20 shipping for 2 small tweeters bringing the bill over $100... which is why I am looking elsewhere...

I was hoping they would be a little more helpful but no luck.
Yeah, I have run into this same thing for my 7PT's. I needed to replace or repair the amps in both speakers. PSB would not do a repair of them since they are BASH amps and Indigo would have to do the work. But $280/ea. plus $40-80 in shipping, they would be happy to send me replacements.

Total would have been close to $650 just to replace the amps, and then I still have used speakers. At that pricing, I could buy or almost buy 5T/T55's or T65's.

Best of Luck

FoeHammer865

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Hey guys,

I'm considering purchasing a pair of Image T45 towers and a Image C40 center. My question is, I currently have a H/K AVR 235 receiver. I'm wondering if this is going to be powerful enough to properly drive these speakers. Thanks in advance for the advise!

chris8816

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris8816
Hey guys,

I'm considering purchasing a pair of Image T45 towers and a Image C40 center. My question is, I currently have a H/K AVR 235 receiver. I'm wondering if this is going to be powerful enough to properly drive these speakers. Thanks in advance for the advise!
Yes, it will drive them properly. Image series is highly efficient. You will be pleased with the sound level you will get from the combination. The advantage of the Image series is that even at low volumes they are detailed. I have T45/C40 driven by an 80W Marantz that never goes past -20db volume level.

PR Audio

PSB Speakers Owners thread

Sometime in 2008 I'll be outfitting a new home theater / music room. As I'm partial to PSB the system will likely be anchored by a pair of T55s (the T65s are just too deep for me).

Here's what I'm curious about: in the dark ages of audio subwoofers were usually only used in the absence of full range speakers. The Tx5s are definitely full range, and yet I notice a lot of posters here pairing them with subwoofers. But why?

I'm very curious to hear people's opinions. And conversely, if you are spending $ on a subwoofer, why bother buying anything above the T45? Or perhaps even B25s?

One disclaimer is that while I appreciate excellent sound I'm not a rabid fan of movies where lots of things "blow up good, real good!"

ings

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Originally Posted by ings
I'm very curious to hear people's opinions. And conversely, if you are spending $ on a subwoofer, why bother buying anything above the T45? Or perhaps even B25s?
In my opinion it has to do with the frequency you cross the sub over at. I've seen posts that say 100Hz is easy to locate. I've found that 80Hz can be localized also. I have T55 towers, so I was able to cross over at 60Hz and really have to concentrate to know the sound is coming from the sub. It's also nice to have a broad range of overlap to experiment with and find the best solution for your room conditions.

CharlieU

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Originally Posted by CharlieU
I have T55 towers, so I was able to cross over at 60Hz and really have to concentrate to know the sound is coming from the sub. It's also nice to have a broad range of overlap to experiment with and find the best solution for your room conditions.
This makes sense to me if you've decided upon a setup using full range front speakers and a subwoofer. It's good to have flexibility to experiment.

But to be crystal clear, my curiosity is mostly about why is a subwoofer useful if one is using full range front speakers?

I'm probably dating myself but at one time "full range" usually meant subwoofers weren't necessary for normal listening / normal movies.

ings

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Originally Posted by ings
But to be crystal clear, my curiosity is mostly about why is a subwoofer useful if one is using full range front speakers?
Sorry, I missed that. In my case it has to do with placement and the way my room reacts to low frequencies. With a single sub you are free to move it around your room to find the smoothest frequency response and best sound at the lower frequencies. With a pair of full range fronts, you are limited in positioning and what may be good for bass may not be good for the higher frequencies and imaging. In other words, one speaker may have fantastic bass and the other may have a bunch of peaks and dips that just kill the overall effect.

If you have a room that is low frequency friendly, then you wouldn't need to go with a sub for full range speakers. For music, I think this would be the best case. For movies you might want the extra extension that a sub would give you to hit some of the really low stuff they put in soundtracks.

I'm with you though. If I know I can't get away without having a sub, why pay more for extra drivers that you can't use.

CharlieU

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ings, what do you consider a "full range" speaker?
Even though many spec's say a speaker can go down to xxx ??Hz??
in a perfect acoustic chambered room, they may not really give you
the "best" sound in our unperfect rooms. My Stratus Silveri, sound very good in 2ch , however, with movies they do bottom out. and i like a sub with hirez 5.1 material.

DAB

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Originally Posted by DAB
ings, what do you consider a "full range" speaker?
A good question to which I don't have a snappy answer. But intuitively I would put all (most?) floor standing speakers in the full range category, i.e. they purport to not have any inherent performance (frequency) limitations for music, the way bookshelf speakers usually do.

Perhaps one needs to distinguish between music and soundtracks? I guess the latter, particular with some movie genres, will tend to have more low frequency content.

ings

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I just finalized my first real HT set up and went ahead and ordered:

2x PSB Image B25's
2x PSB Image B15's
1 PSB Image C40

So excited to hear how they sound with my new Onkyo TX-SR605S and Toshiba A3 HD Player!

I had a question to you guys out there, what size stands should I use for the 25's and 15's? I am putting them in a room that measures 12x19, pretty small, and will be using them for mostly movies, if that makes a difference.

Thanks and Happy New Years!

DaveKPSB

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAB
ings, what do you consider a "full range" speaker?
Even though many spec's say a speaker can go down to xxx ??Hz??
in a perfect acoustic chambered room, they may not really give you
the "best" sound in our unperfect rooms. My Stratus Silveri, sound very good in 2ch , however, with movies they do bottom out. and i like a sub with hirez 5.1 material.
Probably something less than 2% of tower speakers are truly full range and nobody I know can afford those. With the advent of real nice subwoofers that are out there now, there is no need to spend big bucks on full range speakers.

I also own Stratus Silver-i's. I set them to small right out of the box, and calibrated my svs sub for 2.1stereo. There is no bass cancellation with the mains set to small. Why make the speakers strain when there are so many capable subs available now. Allow all the speakers to work easily within their limits and the music really comes alive.

turbobuick86

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Originally Posted by DaveKPSB
I just finalized my first real HT set up and went ahead and ordered:

2x PSB Image B25's
2x PSB Image B15's
1 PSB Image C40

So excited to hear how they sound with my new Onkyo TX-SR605S and Toshiba A3 HD Player!

I had a question to you guys out there, what size stands should I use for the 25's and 15's? I am putting them in a room that measures 12x19, pretty small, and will be using them for mostly movies, if that makes a difference.

Thanks and Happy New Years!
This is a very nice setup, I have T45 mains/C40 center/B25 rears in my family room powered by Marantz SR-5001, was so happy with the way the B25 sounded that I'm waiting on a 12W 2-CH tube amp and pre-amp ordered, to mount the B25's on stands in my living room just for music. I will be using 18" floor stands, anything above 18" will place the tweeter over your head.

I am ordering PSB Alpha LR1 as rears to substitute the original purpose of the B25's. As soon as the Alpha's arrive I will be taking down the Sony rears.

After three weeks of having the PSB Image system up and running I can tell anyone that it kicks butt, and are on par with speakers I audition that almost cost twice their price.

PR Audio

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I thought i might come here to ask some questions on psb because they seem intriguing. I am looking into getting a bookshelf 5.1 system for a relatively small room with limited space. I am currently looking at the psb b25's, c-40 and psb s50 which will probably be powered by an onkyo 705s or 605s. Would the s50 be that much better for using as surrounds than the b15? Dave i am really interested on hearing your impressions on your new setup when you get everything squared away because it's almost exactly the same setup i am looking into. Thanks.

jumpman23j

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Originally Posted by jumpman23j
I thought i might come here to ask some questions on psb because they seem intriguing. I am looking into getting a bookshelf 5.1 system for a relatively small room with limited space. I am currently looking at the psb b25's, c-40 and psb s50 which will probably be powered by an onkyo 705s or 605s. Would the s50 be that much better for using as surrounds than the b15? Dave i am really interested on hearing your impressions on your new setup when you get everything squared away because it's almost exactly the same setup i am looking into. Thanks.
What you are looking at from PSB is a very nice setup, which you will be very happy with. I would save the extra $$$ for the S50's, and get B15's. In your own words, you have a small room. Therefore, the advantage of dipoles might not be fully appreciated in a small room, when the effects produced by rear bookshelves will fill that room without any problems. Don't know what type of music you hear, but if you get into multi-channel (DVD-A & SACD) the B15's will play more efficiently the sounds produced.

PR Audio

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Hey PR Audio,

Thanks for the tip on Saturday Audio Exchange! I picked up a pair of B25's to go with my existing T55/C60/B25/SS6i setup and saved a chunk of change upgrading to 7.1.

Cheers,

jr

au-734

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psb system
Older System (about 12 years old) in located in the basement:

Receiver: Harmon Kardon AVR 30
Front Main Speakers: PSB 500
Center Speaker: PSB 100c
Rear Speakers: Alpha Minis
Subwoofer: PSB Subsonic III
TV: JVC 35" CRT TV

New system: Waiting for it to arrive this week:

Receiver: Marantz SR8001
Front Mains: PSB T65
Center: PSB C60
Rear: PSB B25
Subwoofer: PSB Subsonic 6i
TV: Panasonic TH58PZ700u plasma TV

I will be using the PSB Minis in the new system until I get a pair of image 10s. I am hoping for a huge gain in performance over the old system...and I thought that sounded great.
I am no expert and got started 12 years ago wanting to get a bose acoustimas system. I went into a small audio visual store and was told while bose may make an ok satellite system, if I really wanted a good flat response for home theater PSB was the way to go for the money. I'm glad I went there and got his advice.

macgruff69

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I was wondering if anyone could suggest a wall mount for the B15s? Thanks

rparody27

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Anyone have any pics of their setup? Preferably with the t45's? I wanna get an idea so I can see how my room would look. Thanks.

jumpman23j

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How does warranty work with psb speakers? As far as how long their covered.

jumpman23j

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Could anyone recommend a speaker stand for the Platinum series C2?
Thanks

rparody27

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Originally Posted by rparody27
I was wondering if anyone could suggest a wall mount for the B15s? Thanks
I just used OmniMount 20's to mount a couple B15's. They support the weight just fine...

Only scary thing is you have to drill holes in the back of the B15's to mount them, since they're no mounting holes or anything. Only other option would be to go for the huge shelf like mounts...

Got 'em on Amazon but they're available a lot of places. Make sure you double-check what kind you're getting. They have one version for ceiling mount and one for wall mount.

Here are a couple pic's... Note that I mounted them to a small block of wood - that isn't normally necessary, but I needed to angle them nearly parallel with the wall do to room layout, and I needed the extra room to angle them like that... They're big for surround speakers...

BigDaveE

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Originally Posted by jumpman23j
Anyone have any pics of their setup? Preferably with the t45's? I wanna get an idea so I can see how my room would look. Thanks.
Here are a couple pics of my setup - T45's and a C40... Pay no attention to the ghetto entertainment center. I'm waiting on a new unit custom built, so for the meantime I just split a rack in half...

One pick with the grilles on, one without. I think I like the look of 'em without grilles better... Also added one closer one - to give you a better idea of the size... They seem bigger in person (especially the center channel) than in pics...

BigDaveE

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Originally Posted by au-734
Hey PR Audio,

Thanks for the tip on Saturday Audio Exchange! I picked up a pair of B25's to go with my existing T55/C60/B25/SS6i setup and saved a chunk of change upgrading to 7.1.

Cheers,

jr
I'm glad it worked out for you...Be careful, 'cause good prices for great equipment can be addicting, I am purchasing a pair of PSB Alpha LR1's from them, and a NAD C315BEE amp, which they gave me an excellent price on.

PR Audio

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Originally Posted by rparody27
I was wondering if anyone could suggest a wall mount for the B15s? Thanks
B-Tech B77, no drilling into the speaker involved, very safe, and sturdy.

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Originally Posted by jumpman23j
How does warranty work with psb speakers? As far as how long their covered.
5 yrs. with the manufacturer. REGISTER YOUR SPEAKERS ONLINE OR VIA MAIL WITH THE INCLUDED WARRANTY REGISTRATION CARD.

PR Audio

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Originally Posted by rparody27
Could anyone recommend a speaker stand for the Platinum series C2?
Thanks
These should do the trick! http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENCST

Billy p

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Guys ... I'm desperate !!! If anyone knows anywhere I can buy a Stratus center channel to match my Silver i's ... PLEASE let me know .... I've been searching forever. It needs to be the newer " i " version.
Thanks

meansrt

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I love bass, and I like detailed midrange and treble, but I think my speakers are a little bright sounding. It's not horrible, but I would like to reduce the brightness if I can.

I just went through an upgrade marathon in the last year. I went from the original PSB Image line to the newest Image line and from the Marantz SR8000 to the 14EX and now to the SR9600. I have also moved and set up my gear in a new room which is a little hard (not much furniture, no drapes, no ceiling tiles etc). In my adventure I have come to the realization that my speakers are quite bright, something that the person buying my SR14EX especially noticed. Coupled with the revealing and detailed SR9600 it is proving to be a little harsh and bright overall. I need to tame things down. Here is what I plan to do after I paint the room for the bat-cave requirements of using a projector:

1) Hang some drapes and/or other objects on the side and back walls and put something on the ceiling to absorb/difuse some of the higher frequencies.

2) Get some more furniture and bookshelfs/dvd/cd stands and other things to difuse the sound a little more.

3) Dial-down the treble a bit and turn up the bass a bit.

4) Run the subwoofer in the BOTH setting.

5) I am considering trying an acoustically transparent screen to tame the speakers, but would rather not resort to this.

The tweeters and woofers of these image speakers are very well matched, so I'd rather not change the tweeters, as some have done.

Does anybody have any other suggestions for my situation? I am not changing the speakers, unless I've tried all of the above and more and cannot improve the sound. I like the bass, efficiency and ohms of the speakers and the well matched setup for home theatre and multi-channel audio.

cpc

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Which Image model? I have T45's, and though a little forward, not much to be concerned, don't have that problem. They are set in my family room, all concrete with tiles on the floor, an acoustical nightmare, but by changind the placement of the sofa and chairs I was able to get them to sound just right. Sub is in BOTH setting at the receiver (Marantz SR-5001).

PR Audio

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Originally Posted by PR Audio
Which Image model? I have T45's, and though a little forward, not much to be concerned, don't have that problem. They are set in my family room, all concrete with tiles on the floor, an acoustical nightmare, but by changind the placement of the sofa and chairs I was able to get them to sound just right. Sub is in BOTH setting at the receiver (Marantz SR-5001).
T65 front towers & C60 centre with S50 surrounds. I will be getting a pair of B15's for rear surround for 7.1. I will play with my room and see what I can do.

cpc

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Howdy everyone, I'm a long time PSB owner; I grew up in the same town that PSB started out in some 35 years ago. My brother worked there and I knew many of the original employees. Needless to say I've been sorta stuck on PSB ever since (even if I do occasionally build my own).

This summer we moved houses and my listening situation has changed so that I no longer have a dedicated 2 channel setup. As a result I have a pair of PSB Stratus Golds (original model) that are now sitting in our family room and are being integrated into a new 5.1 system. Do any of you have opinions on what speakers would match up best for the center and rear surrounds?

I'm going to also send PSB support an e-mail asking this question, but I thought I'd see if any of you had recommendations, in particular, if any of you would recommend anything that's not made by PSB (sacrilege I know, but I am open to that possibility since we no longer have a local PSB dealer).

scientest

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpc
T65 front towers & C60 centre with S50 surrounds. I will be getting a pair of B15's for rear surround for 7.1. I will play with my room and see what I can do.
I have C40 and B25 rears, but just ordered a pair of Alpha LR1 for rears, as the B25's are so good that they will be used in a 2-Ch. music only system powered by an integrated amp. My room is not that big, as to justify B25's as rears.

I have not audition the T65, but did audition the T55, and found them extremly similar to the T45 with better bass extension, but also found the sound somewhat muddy, not much just a tad. So, saved $$$ and went with the T45, which I found better sounding than the T55 without the bass extension of the T55, which to me was no problem, as my sub would cover that shortcoming.

PR Audio

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Quote:
Originally Posted by PR Audio
I have C40 and B25 rears, but just ordered a pair of Alpha LR1 for rears, as the B25's are so good that they will be used in a 2-Ch. music only system powered by an integrated amp. My room is not that big, as to justify B25's as rears.

I have not audition the T65, but did audition the T55, and found them extremly similar to the T45 with better bass extension, but also found the sound somewhat muddy, not much just a tad. So, saved $$$ and went with the T45, which I found better sounding than the T55 without the bass extension of the T55, which to me was no problem, as my sub would cover that shortcoming.
The T45 has smaller woofers, which can be beneficial for a more refined and easier sound character in the mid and upper midrange I suppose. Like you say, the subwoofer gives you the bass. I liked the 6T and the T65 because they have such a full range. I like getting the bass from the tower when listening to music. I also like the subwoofer blending now too. I just need to know how to tame these beasts.

cpc

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpc
The T45 has smaller woofers, which can be beneficial for a more refined and easier sound character in the mid and upper midrange I suppose. Like you say, the subwoofer gives you the bass. I liked the 6T and the T65 because they have such a full range. I like getting the bass from the tower when listening to music. I also like the subwoofer blending now too. I just need to know how to tame these beasts.
Mine seem to blend very well with the sub, people that know about audio, but are not familiar with the T45 always comment on how full the sound is, they don't notice its a sub until I tell them. Your aseveration about T45 being more refined because of size is correct.

PR Audio

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Originally Posted by scientest
Howdy everyone, I'm a long time PSB owner; I grew up in the same town that PSB started out in some 35 years ago. My brother worked there and I knew many of the original employees. Needless to say I've been sorta stuck on PSB ever since (even if I do occasionally build my own).

This summer we moved houses and my listening situation has changed so that I no longer have a dedicated 2 channel setup. As a result I have a pair of PSB Stratus Golds (original model) that are now sitting in our family room and are being integrated into a new 5.1 system. Do any of you have opinions on what speakers would match up best for the center and rear surrounds?

I'm going to also send PSB support an e-mail asking this question, but I thought I'd see if any of you had recommendations, in particular, if any of you would recommend anything that's not made by PSB (sacrilege I know, but I am open to that possibility since we no longer have a local PSB dealer).

The PSB Stratus C6 or C6i would make a nice center.

I can't say about the surrounds. In my case, I am using a pair of very old tower speakers for surrounds. Not matched, but sounds good to me.

hjw

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Originally Posted by hjw
The PSB Stratus C6 or C6i would make a nice center.
Sure, but were do I find them? They are no longer in production and I don't see them used anywhere....?

scientest

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I finally got my speakers, and have the front left(B25),right(B25), and center(C40) set up. Now I am just waiting on stands for the rears(B15)!

So far they sound fantastic, I used the Audyssey 2EQ automatic speaker-calibration system with my Onkyo TX_SR605 receiver to set the levels etc.

But I was thinking about getting a TV and audio calibration dvd or whatever. I was wondering if anyone had suggestions. I did use I think DVE about 2 years ago, when I first got my TV, but would like to do it again and try some 5.1 audio calibrations a shot.

I will post some picks as soon as I get the rear stands (sometime next week)!

DaveKPSB

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Looking to piece a PSB system together and I have a Yamaha 1800 (130 x 7 @ 8ohms). I'm looking at Image T65 for fronts, Image 9C for the center and 2 pairs of Image 10S for fronts and backs. I will eventually add a sub but have 2 Definitive subs I can use in the meantime. Would my receiver work well with this setup and also would there be any sound difference being I'm using the the current T65s with previous models 9C and 10S?

adrian457

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Just to follow up with my original query; the folks at PSB are recommending the Synchrony line to match up with the Status Golds for my center channel and rears. Not a big surprise, but I was sort of hoping that they'd say the Image series could do the trick....

scientest

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Anyone having trouble hearing dialog in some standard definition dvd films. Room: 23' x 23' with pitched ceiling (A shaped ceiling), carpet, drywall. Seating is 14 feet from center.
System: Harmon Kardon avr 7200, denon 1920
I read an article in ultimateavmag about the C60s potential dialog problem with the T65s (suckout centered at 2.5kHz and laid back center channel response).
Any ideas? power/speaker upgrade? Thanks

friedfast

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Originally Posted by stevebmd
Any one compare the PSB alpha LR1 to the Orb Mod2 for a 5.1 systems. FYI I will be driving htis with Yamaha rxv1700. The system is for a small HT area with no flor space for towers and limited wall space around the plasma
Can tell you in a few days when my LR1's arrive, how the perform in my 5.1. I had ordered B25 for rears, but changed them to mains in my living room, just for music, and ordered a pair of LR1 for rears in my family room 5.1 system (T45/C40/LR1/HSU VTF2-MKIII)

PR Audio

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im looking to purchase a bookshelf speaker; leaning to purchasing a psb image b25 but i stumbled into a used ad for a psb stratus mini for about the same price in your opinion which one is better sound wise? i cannot make an ab comparison since the local dealer dont have the minis anymore. any opinions?

chameleon

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I think the Stratus Mini blows away the B25.

Milord

PSB Speakers Owners thread

even with mediocre electronics?
ill be using an onkyo htib receiver for the meantime.

chameleon

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I don't think an htib will driver Stratus minis very well! They're lower in both efficiency and impedance.

Alimentall

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love my psb 6i and have 4 extra psb alpha lr1s and a alpha psb center if anyone needs some nudge nudge wink wink
jeff

drtoronto

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Originally Posted by chameleon
even with mediocre electronics?
ill be using an onkyo htib receiver for the meantime.
The B25 is easier to drive that the Stratus Mini, but the Mini will blow it away in SQ. Don't think your Onkyo is a good match, as the Mini is power hungry and make the use of poor electronics and bad recording more noticeable.

If you think you will upgrade your receiver in the near future go for the Mini, if not I would say to stick to the B25.

PR Audio

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Quick setup I want to run by you lads.

I have a Onkyo 605 (may have the chance to upgrade to a 705 but unsure yet) and I'm looking to update my speaker setup.

I have to decide between a PSB or Energy setup but that is left for another day.

Here's the setup I'm looking at.

Mains : T55 or T65 vs RC-30 (quite smaller but in the end it amounts to the same price for the T55)
Center : C60 vs RC-LCR
Sub : PSB 5i or Energy 10.3
Sats : Axiom QS8 (I have heard these at a friend and they rocked!.)

I still put the Energy in there just for kicks but I really want to know if this is a good PSB setup and if my 605 (or future 705) should be alright with these. Also wondering if I should stick with the matching Bipoles instead of the Axioms.

Thanks.

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