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Updated: 2008-06-11 08:18:59 (2062)
Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Welcome to the new thread for eastern Iowa HDTV. This thread covers KWWL-DT, KCRG-DT, KGAN-DT, KFXA-DT, KFPX-DT, KIIN-DT, KWKB-DT, and KRIN-DT. This is a split from the original Eastern Iowa/Quad Cities thread. If you have questions and are new to AVS Forum, please search that thread as your question may have been asked before. Or, feel free to ask it anyway.

Enjoy your stay and welcome to the thread.

Helpful Links:
Cedar Falls Utilities' DT Signal Quality Graphs (http://www.cfu.net/CyberNet/HD/)
Local Mediacom QAM mappings for cable & digital "in the clear" QAM (As seen in Cedar Rapids)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dline
For those of you just joining us, here's a recap of Eastern Iowa HD/DTV issues:

KGAN (2-1, CBS):

Their job of "throwing the switch" to HD has greatly improved. Still some complaints about "stretching" 2-1 during SD upconverted programming. Also, as the Hawkeye basketball station, it often has to tape-delay network programming, but can't do it in HD. The DT station is not currently carried on many cable systems because its owner, Sinclair Broadcast Group, wants payment for HD carriage.


KWWL (7-1, 2 and 3, NBC):

Recently added two subchannels, NBC Weather Plus and Raycom's music channel "The Tube," but they don't seem to get a lot of complaints about the quality of 7-1, which they've vowed to keep up. Their tower is a few miles north of most of the other stations, which occasionally causes issues with some viewers in the southern reaches of the market. For most, it comes in loud and clear.

Although it's been a great performer, Raycom recently announced plans to sell KWWL and several other stations so it can concentrate on its core geographic area, the South.


KCRG (9-1, 2 ABC):

As with KGAN, they often delay network programming for basketball games -- in their case, it's the Cyclone men and Hawkeye women -- but can't timeshift those shows in HD yet. Occasionally the stream has an issue with a few stray pixels, though not so much lately.

(Edit 8-23-06) 9-2 now displays "KCRG Local 9.2".


KIIN (12-1, Iowa Public Television):

Currently broadcasting at low power on a special temporary authority from just north of West Branch. That will change, but for now most of us use KRIN (32-1), which is broadcasting the same thing at higher power from Walker.


KWKB (20-1, The WB):

Their analog is full-power, but their digital is running on a special temporary authority and isn't required to go full power until this summer. (As a WB affiliate they're on a more generous FCC deadline.) As far as I know they're not doing HD at this time. A major issue for KWKB is that they transmit from a tower just north of West Branch in Cedar County, which is southeast of Cedar Rapids and east of Iowa city -- a completely different direction from most other stations.

There's still no official word as to whether KWKB or KWWF will become The CW when UPN and The WB cease operations this fall.


KWWF (22, UPN):

Analog only, and for most viewers outside Waterloo, it's cable-only. If it survives the loss of UPN, it will probably have to "flash-cut" to digital when the transition ends.


KFXA (28-1, Fox):

Like KWKB, their biggest issue for them is location. Their tower is in central Benton County, which is a completely different line of sight from Cedar Rapids than the others. You may have to re-orient your antenna or find a "compromise" location if you're having trouble with them.

KFXA also had some recent PSIP trouble and had been coming up on some receivers as 27-1 or even 27-3 in recent days, but as of today they seem to have fixed those problems. Check your receivers.


KRIN (32-1 and 32-2, Iowa Public Television):

32-1 is currently a full-time HD service, while 32-2 is a full-time SD upconvert of IPTV's analog service. They rarely simulcast each other. They're on the same tower as KCRG and KGAN near Walker, so if you can get any one of those stations, you should be able to get the others.


KPXR (48-1, 2, 3 and 4):

An affiliate of "i" (formerly Pax). Not carrying HD. 48-1 is a simulcast of their analog. 48-2 is like 48-1 but occasionally carries actual programming during times when 48-1 is running infomercials. 48-3 is the "Worship" network, and 48-4 is Faith Television.


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One other note: All Eastern Iowa digitals are on UHF for now. When the transition ends, hopefully in early 2009, three of our stations -- KCRG, KWWL and KIIN -- plan to switch back to their VHF channels to broadcast digital. Keep that in mind if you're selecting an antenna for the long term.



Looking for the Quad Cities thread? It's right here.

This thread includes the cities of: Cedar Rapids, Dubuque, Iowa City, and Waterloo, Iowa.

Answers: Cedar Rapids IA HDTV ( AVS Forum Local HDTV Info and Reception )
Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

what channel is NG?

fireburster

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by fireburster
what channel is NG?
891

isu_guy24

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Noticed the updated 9.2 last night as well. First stop today was here.

And yes, a little upsetting that the radar is windowed, but

a) it's almost always on local radar in that window, and

b) they now include LOOPING radar. Before, 9.2 used to only be a live feed from their radar PC. If they were running a Windows update, you got to watch them update. If they were roaming around checking on things, you got to watch that. But otherwise, there was no loop, nothing. Just a radar image. A static image is fine for current conditions, but if I'm going to go outside, it's nice to see where the rain is headed.

Also kinda like that they're replaying the news, since I can't always catch the news at 10.

Unfortunately, on a 30" widescreen (20-25" 4:3 equiv.), all the windowing cuts the size on everything pretty small. I'm not sure they need quite as much area on top for the new 9.2 logo (another nice touch), but I think that the bottom programming lineup ticker is nice to have.

All in all, nice to see that KCRG took the time to listen to some of the suggestions from this board (almost seems like they took ALL of the suggestions, though!), and nice to see the increased local coverage. Now to advertise the capabilities of the new subchannel!

I'll leave my whining usual about KWWL and KGAN for another day. "The New Nine Dot Two" is enough to make me forget most of it now.

CR_Client

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

http://www.ighsau.org/sb/2006/sbtvfinals.htm

Iowa Public Television will broadcast the Iowa High School Sports Network production of the 2006 Girls Softball Championships LIVE exclusively on IPTV-Digital Channels across the state. The network will provide coverage on Friday, August 4 beginning at 1 p.m. on IPTV-Digital channels across the state. Viewers able to receive an HDTV signal can watch the live coverage on the following digital channels: channel 50, Des Moines; channel 45, Iowa City; channel 25, Fort Dodge; channel 18, Mason City; channel 28, Sioux City; channel 35, Waterloo; channel 33, Council Bluffs; and channel 35, Red Oak.



Viewers can see a rebroadcast of the championships on Iowa Public Televisionís traditional (analog) service August 8 ? 11. These rebroadcasts allow viewers to record them at 2 a.m. each day on IPTVís traditional channels: channel 11, Des Moines; channel 12, Iowa City; channel 21, Fort Dodge; channel 24, Mason City; channel 27, Sioux City; channel 32, Waterloo; channel 32, Council Bluffs; channel 36, Red Oak; channel 36, Davenport.

iowahawkeye

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Getting zero on both receivers...looked at their web site, no notice...southern CR

bagdropper

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Wooh - that's bizarre - CFU graphs show no problem; my ota tuner locks onto both 2-1, 2-2 just fine, but tv shows "no signal." Broadcasting a carrier, but someone tripped over the video cable? Heck -just changed channels to KCRG - my Sammy is still doing a reboot upon selecting 9-1, but I can change to 2-1 with no glitch - just no signal.

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

still down this morning...it's there, just no programming

bagdropper

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

2.1 working fine

bagdropper

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

The football on 7.1 looks crappy. Lots of blockiness and dot crawl during movement. The shots with little movement look very nice, and the dd5.1 sounds really good.

(MYHD MDP130 on a 1280x720 projector 120inch screen)

Versa

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Versa,

I see the same thing. I'm using the 6412 stb with Mediacom.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

During the second half I didn't see as much blockiness, but it just seemed like blurs replaced blockiness.

Versa

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

fwiw, now at the end of the game, I'm flatout getting dropouts, and "no signal." the qam feed had been flaky, so switched over to antenna on tower, for ota. Got some nasty macroblocking before the dropouts - something I hadn't experienced in over a year, OTA. sheesh - I want Jerry back. So far, football on KWWL-DT looks as bad or worse than MLB was on KFXA last August.

NOT the best start for showing off your network, guys. NBC paid a lot of money to get MNF on Sunday; would be nice if locals could also broadcast it.

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Another question (and uhf may be able to help here,) - do any of the local HD stations ever broadcast a test pattern, and if so, is it at a predictable time? I would like to calibrate my hd stb to my vp and crt; once I stumbled on the KCRG demo clip, late at night.

I just thought it would be helpful if a station could broadcast the standard color bars, with pluge at either the end or beginning of the broadcast day. I'm pretty sure the sat people do that, but that doesn't help us OTA peons...

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I've seen it late at night recently, but I can't recall which station is was.

I want to say it was KWWL or KGAN, on a Saturday night after 4 AM (note: that's when I turned on the TV. Not sure what time it actually started). KCRG usually switches over to the radar at that hour, instead of a test pattern.

CR_Client

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingvee
Another question (and uhf may be able to help here,) - do any of the local HD stations ever broadcast a test pattern, and if so, is it at a predictable time? I would like to calibrate my hd stb to my vp and crt; once I stumbled on the KCRG demo clip, late at night.

I just thought it would be helpful if a station could broadcast the standard color bars, with pluge at either the end or beginning of the broadcast day. I'm pretty sure the sat people do that, but that doesn't help us OTA peons...
I don't know if they still do this, but the last time I worked/partied late I noticed that KGAN-TV and DT usually signed off late Friday night/Saturday morning, sometime in the 2 o'clock hour IIRC. They'll usually put up a few minutes of bars just before pulling the plug, and again later that morning when they come back on again.

If you can pick up WHBF-DT out of the Quad Cities (DT 58), I believe they, too, put up bars overnight. At least that's what I saw during our last humid spell, which was the last time I was able to pick them up.

dline

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingvee
I just thought it would be helpful if a station could broadcast the standard color bars, with pluge
I don't have an HD set at home yet, but I used the Video Essentials DVD to set up my SD LCD set. It has all the test patterns a guy could want if you don't mind them being SD instead of HD.

uhf

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I live in CR, am picking up the big 4 QC's in HD, plus WEEK 25-1 and WTPV 47-1 from Peoria, plus a whole slew of analogs. Easily the best night for QC I've had so far. Can't believe I'm getting Peoria! 150 miles?

If I could only get them in the daytime...4-1 seems to be able to come in the earliest (comes in at 430p when I get home from work) and best the last couple days, but haven't had a chance to try on weekends. It'd be great to have a 2nd option for locals during football season.

I seem to have been able to finally dial in the QC locals, used Antennaweb site to figure out the compass headings, used the signal meters, voila, channels everywhere and solid signals, too. It'll be nice to try them this weekend.

bagdropper

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by uhf
I don't have an HD set at home yet, but I used the Video Essentials DVD to set up my SD LCD set. It has all the test patterns a guy could want if you don't mind them being SD instead of HD.
it's not that - I have VE and Avia - my issue is that I think the color balance is skewed some with my STB - over in the crt forum, near as I can follow, it seems to be a colorspace issue - with HD actually being defined differently than SD. While I am ok eyeballing to "fairly close," it would be nice if I could actually optimize what comes out of my HD box, using a known benchmark. A few minutes would help me tweak the color and hue, but if anyone left it one for an extended period, I might have time to do some serious grayscale work.

thanks, dline, but I'm NW of Cedar Falls, in a valley - I'm pretty happy that I can pickup the major networks. So far, I have never picked any other stations up, even tho I have a friend in town (on a hill) who gets Mason City on a semi-regular basis. I even tried getting WB out of Ames once, on a reccomendation of a fellow forum member - no luck there either.

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

You may also get bars off the IPTV network. KDIN-DT at least does colorbars for a few minutes before sign-on sometimes when I've caught it. I don't think I've seen stations do true SMTPE bars, though, mainly it's just straight out full screen color bars.

kc0bsn

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by kc0bsn
You may also get bars off the IPTV network.
That's my only suggestion too. But I'm not sure how accurate those are as I have no idea what the source is. I think that they sometimes go to bars at sign off as well, but probably for only a minute or so while the master control op shuts down the transmitters.

uhf

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

So the football game on 2.1 right now, falcons vs NE, looks like crap. The sideline shots look great but the actual game is damn near unwatchable. You can't even see the ball when its in the air.

What is the point of 'HDTV' if they lower the bandwidth so much its barely better then standard tv?

Versa

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I don't post much - usually just read and learn. I don't complain much, either, but I would have to agree with previous posts on the poor quality of the NFL broadcasts. The whole reason I bought my HDTV was for sports.

KWWL's Sunday Night NFL broadcast was absolutely horrible. HORRIBLE. Granted it was in 1080i which is less than ideal for anything sports related, but goodness sakes. I remember the the Olympics looking just as bad - I chalked that up to having to ship the signal from Europe. Highly disappointed. Looked WORSE on MediaCom 807.

Tonight's game in 1080i on KGAN/CBS is "better" than Sunday's by far OTA, but still looks fuzzy/blocky. Couldn't check it on MediaCom channel 802 because, well, you know - THERE IS NO 802. Sorry. Moving on.

Last night's FOX broadcast looked pretty good, but not great, in 720p.

The baseball games and other HD broadcasts on ESPNHD/ESPN2HD along with games on INHD are wonderful. Cause they are on cable?

By the way, I do not want to spark the 1080 vs 720 debate, just making observations.

Is it bandwidth allocation? Is it compression settings? Is it that I have a newer progressive scan DLP TV? It looked just as bad on my neighbor's older 1080i set.

Go Chiefs. Well, at least until they lose in the playoffs.

HDAntenna

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

just a thought, but maybe they just aren't using the best gear for the preseason games - I sure remember them looking better last year. And I know last year's World Series looked a lot better. (tho there isn't much rapid movement in baseball either ) But yes, NBC's first foray into HD was lamentable - lets just hope they get their act together by the real season.

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Yes - I don't want it, so am instead sharing with fellow forum members. If anyone wants one of the Toshiba HD-dvd players, there is one open box at the CR BB, for a jaw-dropping price. (following forum rules, but lets say, you could buy this unit and 6 disks for the normal price. ))

I had it in my greasy little paws, went to the movie section, and DANG - couldn't find a disk I wanted to pay 30 bucks to watch on it. So, afaik, it is still there waiting for someone with different taste in movies than me. Enjoy.

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Anyone know if Mediacom will be adding any new HD channels any time soon?

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsduke
Anyone know if Mediacom will be adding any new HD channels any time soon?
Talked to someone with MediaCom in Des Moines about several issues including TVGuide Online, NFL Network, ESPNU and whether they are going to add any new HD channels this week.

The NFL Network is supposedly coming. They are in negotiations just like every other cable outlet. The NFL-HD will not be carried by MediaCom. ESPNU is in negitiations also. They are considering putting them both on the new sports tier with CSTV and the regional sports networks.

They ARE supposed to be adding "a few" HD channels by the end of the year. Des Moines does not have ESPN2HD or INHD/INHD2 - those are going to be added to the tier there. They really did not give anything specific, but rumor has the possibilities of TNT-HD, National Geographic HD, HGTV-HD, WGN-HD and some sports channels like ComCast Sports Net in HD.

OF COURSE, no luck with those ding-dongs at Sinclair (KGAN / KDSM) adding KGAN-DT 802 to the lineup in Cedar Rapids or KDSM-HD to Des Moines.

HDAntenna

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Well, another week of preseason football in HD.

The second Sunday night KWWL-DT / NBC broadcast was better, but still not up to my standards. Blocky and sometimes 'out of focus'.

Monday Night Football on ESPN-HD was PERFECT - but, the little score "pod" is irritating. FOX has the best score "bar" and is great on HD. Takes up too much screen in SD.

Thursday night's Chiefs-Giants game was damn near perfect on 28-1, although my Chiefs looked like a Jr. High team.

We'll see how the PGA Championship looks on CBS-HD this weekend.

Yeah, I'm picky.

HDAntenna

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

If there not going to add NFL Network in HD why even bother adding it at all? NFL is by far the best thing about having HD.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

I have no hopes for a Mediacom-Sinclair deal any time soon. I hate to put up a antenna just to get one channel.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsduke
If there not going to add NFL Network in HD why even bother adding it at all? NFL is by far the best thing about having HD.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

I have no hopes for a Mediacom-Sinclair deal any time soon. I hate to put up a antenna just to get one channel.
Couldn't agree more. My neighbor has Dish Network with NFL-HD [drool]. I am just this side of going the dish route, especially for HD channels, but will cost me nearly $45 MORE a month than MediaCom. You get what you pay for, I guess.

HDAntenna

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Ahh, I can't find 809 on Mediacom. I don't see KCRGHD anywhere on the channel guide. I see a channel 109 which is KCRG's weather, any ideas where 809 went?
Thanks,
Rod

dornitram

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

809 still on in Waterloo.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Thanks tsduke, I don't see it in the guide and I can't change the channel to it. Hmmmmmmm...Interesting.....

dornitram

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I get frustrated with KGAN for other things too. Like Jericho not being in HD last night. They probably fired the guy that flips the switch. At least they did get it flipped in the middle of the show. That's something.

dornitram

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

<Im in NE CR and 7.1 is working for me but 9.1 isnt. Its weird because they are all pretty much the same direction.>

I live on the NW side of cedar Rapids. I am trying out the RCA D2A boxes and it will scan in evrything except KCRQ digitals. Neither with rabbit ears or Channel Master on the roof. My 61" RCA HDTV receives it fine. I hope but the time the stations switch I will be able to receive them. Bear

ZBear

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

For those with Fox 28/Dish listings problems: the issue has finally been resolved. I posted the problem on DBSTalk.com forums and emailed chief engineer at KFXA several times and they got it worked out. Turns out, KFXA has been broadcasting TSIP information incorrectly for awhile now, but DISH just started using this information in their receivers/listings. I don't really understand it all, but, bottom line is it's fixed. However, you may have to delete KFXA local then re-add it to correct the listing.

brajo

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Rain
Considering the market we're in, local ad revenue from KGAN is pretty small. Sinclair were looking to save money. It's business as usual.

Didn't KWWL do this a several years ago when they got rid of Gary Sarnoff, Bryan Lesley and some upper management?
Yes, that's true, and to be fair to KWWL it should be noted that their departure was under previous owner Raycom and not QNI. But it's a bit of a stretch to compare that situation with that of channel 2, where even the anchor teams have gone through complete turnover several times over since the year 2000. They just don't have the continuity that KWWL and KCRG have been able to achieve. Even WOI in Des Moines, which has historically struggled, still has the same chief meteorologist and sports director it had in 1996.

dline

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by dline
Yes, that's true, and to be fair to KWWL it should be noted that their departure was under previous owner Raycom and not QNI. But it's a bit of a stretch to compare that situation with that of channel 2, where even the anchor teams have gone through complete turnover several times over since the year 2000. They just don't have the continuity that KWWL and KCRG have been able to achieve. Even WOI in Des Moines, which has historically struggled, still has the same chief meteorologist and sports director it had in 1996.
It's a money thing. I would guess that KGAN doesn't have the same profit stream like KWWL and KCRG. Sinclair probably figures that they can't compete, so they clean house and hopefully see more profits. KGAN is only good for one thing and that is network content coming from CBS.

Dark Rain

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Rain
It's a money thing. I would guess that KGAN doesn't have the same profit stream like KWWL and KCRG. Sinclair probably figures that they can't compete, so they clean house and hopefully see more profits. KGAN is only good for one thing and that is network content coming from CBS.
They aren't all that great at doing that.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by brajo
For those with Fox 28/Dish listings problems: the issue has finally been resolved. I posted the problem on DBSTalk.com forums and emailed chief engineer at KFXA several times and they got it worked out. Turns out, KFXA has been broadcasting TSIP information incorrectly for awhile now, but DISH just started using this information in their receivers/listings. I don't really understand it all, but, bottom line is it's fixed. However, you may have to delete KFXA local then re-add it to correct the listing.
Sweet! Thanks Brajo. Finally, I have 28-1 back on my guide. I can record things in HD again!

iahawks32

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

diggerg56 - Curious what part of Iowa City you are in.
I live on the SW side and have trouble pulling in much. I don't have a rooftop antenna but even using a Terk hasn't yielded much.

I live on the NE side of Iowa City. It's pretty close to the edge of town so it may be that I have less interference? Was the Terk that you tried amplified? Without the amplifier turned on I only pick up some of the SD channels; quite fuzzy. But with the amplifier I get all of the local SD and HD channels except KWWL; even their SD, channel 7, is fuzzy.

kohlgrafk

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

The Terk indoor antennas really aren't that great. You can buy several cheap antennas that will do better.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

TvGuide OnScreen in Cedar Rapids with Mediacom. Does anyone else use this? I have a LG 50pc1dr with built in HD recorder. I have had the TV for a year and the TVGOS worked perfectly until last week. Did Mediacom drop the TVGOS signal from Gemstar? What channels is it broadcast on in Cedar Rapids? Would an OTA HD antenna pull in info?

Any help would be SOOO appreciated. My channels are listed correctly but there is no programming info any more. The info is essential for the use of the built in DVR. I will be calling Mediacom tomorrow. Thanks for the help.

prieff

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by prieff
TvGuide OnScreen in Cedar Rapids with Mediacom. Does anyone else use this? I have a LG 50pc1dr with built in HD recorder. I have had the TV for a year and the TVGOS worked perfectly until last week. Did Mediacom drop the TVGOS signal from Gemstar? What channels is it broadcast on in Cedar Rapids? Would an OTA HD antenna pull in info?

Any help would be SOOO appreciated. My channels are listed correctly but there is no programming info any more. The info is essential for the use of the built in DVR. I will be calling Mediacom tomorrow. Thanks for the help.
Mediacom dropped the TGGOS signal, this was discussed on dslreports.com, apparently its still available OTA from channel 12 in Cedar Rapids, but its filtered out on Mediacom for some reason.

sgarringer

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Can you give me a link to where you found that information? Mediacom apparently has their heads in their a$$. Tech support has "never heard" of Tv Guide On Screen.

Thanks.

prieff

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Heres the discussion, Anonymous is a field tech for Mediacom:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r201...re-HD-channels

Also, Brajo thank you so much for the info on Dish. Deleted 28 (rescan was not enough) readded and voila listings worked like a charm!

sgarringer

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I have been following these converter boxes forums since we have tried 3 different models -- after using our 2 coupons. One coupon went towards the Radio Shack DigitalSTREAM DTX9900 converter box and it has been the best and we want to get another one. The other coupon has been used on the Wal-Mart RCA DTA800B, which could pull in all stations but 1 and took about 45 mins to scan/set up (versus ~10 mins of scanning/setting up with the DigitalSTREAM). (Yes, we did get on the roof and monkey around with the antenna -- and that made reception worse for a couple other stations, so left it alone.) We concluded the box was defective when we couldn't pull in the missing station on 2 different TVs so returned it and exchanged it for the Magnavox TB100MW9 (since that's the only other option at Wal-Mart). That one didn't work at all on our older TV (13 inch) -- there was no button to select Ch 3 or 4 (unlike the 2 previous boxes we used), so it is definitely geared toward a "newer" TV. So, we took it back and since we used a coupon, the only thing we can get back is our out-of-pocket expense. So, we exchanged it for another RCA model since we had somewhat good luck with that one and we then wouldn't be out of anything. I called the coupon hotline and told them the situation and they referred me to the retail hotline and I explained to them our situation. They have had numerous complaints about Wal-Mart's method of handling this type of situation. I'm waiting for a callback from the hotline people on how they might handle this. Lesson here was we should have done our research BEFORE going out and buying the cheapest thing available -- you do get what you paid for. (BTW -- the station that couldn't be pulled in was a local station - Ch 9 [KCRG], first one in the area to become digital about 2(?) years ago, and the rooftop antenna was pointed in the direction of the tower. Something's wrong when we could get this with the box from Radio Shack, but not the RCA box.) Now that I've found a local forum here... Channel 2 [KGAN] is THE BEST WE'VE EVER HAD IT!!! Finally!!!!

TooCheap2BuyHDTV

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Same problem with my RCA box, it won't scan in KCRG. It is the strongest signal on my RCA 61" HDTV. I have tweeked the antenna pointing right at the tower (27 mi. away) but nothing else. I have also tried the Insignia from Best Buy and it quickly scanned and found all the channels. Wish I could trade my RCAs to someone for the Insignia. Also the RCA hang up at 73% scan, I found if I disconnect the coax from antenna for just a second, it will resume, but not KCRG.

Bear

ZBear

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I totally forgot about that! Yes, we had the "hangup"/"lockup" issue also at the 73% scanning process. I'm so glad we weren't the only ones with these issues. Thanks for posting that you had problems too and it wasn't just us who live ~20 miles south of Cedar Rapids. Go figure that we could get KWWL stations just fine which are further north of CR, but not get the CR station?!?!? (until we monkeyed around with the antenna on the roof -- then we lost KWWL *AND* KCRG! So went back to just missing KCRG). We don't have a box connected at all right now to the older 13" TV, but are enjoying the Radio Shack one on our living room set. Something is definitely wrong with the RCA box. And now we're screwed out of the coupon because Wal-Mart won't give us our coupon back in exchange for the defective box.

TooCheap2BuyHDTV

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I've noticed weird issues with KCRGs PSIP info, and its at the higher end of the UHF band which would lead me to believe thats why your box freezes at 73% perhaps... Its funny to see the "late adopters" encounter the similar issues us early adopters dealt with 3 or so years ago. It's also sad, in a way, that ATSC hasn't come further. I have two tvs that just get their signal OTA, but I'm not sure if I'm going to bother with the converters coupons or not, I'm morally against government handouts, and I can afford to go buy two $40 converters.

sgarringer

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Mediacom activated TNT-HD and Concast Sports Net HD today in Coralville.

kps246

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I just noticed this, and I'm currently enjoying watching some HD basketball on TNT-HD.

Not that I don't appreciate the two new channels, but has anyone heard of Mediacom adding any more HD channels to the lineup anytime soon?

I'd love to see The History Channel HD and Versus HD (for some hockey) sometime soon!

sirmikael

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Only slightly OT, but boy, we're in for a delightful changeover - based on what I ran into today, there should be a lot of digital convertors for sale OPEN BOX. - was in RS for something else, asked about the HD box just out of curiousity, and learned something very interesting from the manager. Did you guys know, you don't need rabbit ears, or an antenna, to get HD with those boxes? That's great - all you do is plug them into your tv, and "It looks like a dvd." When I tried to suggest that you needed some way to get the signal in (i.e., antenna) - he looked at me like I was challenged.

Oh well. But don't you think a few people will heed his advice, and then bring the box back because they aren't getting a picture? (btw, he also told me that I'd be better off to skip the box, and just go with Direct or dish.)

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingvee
Only slightly OT, but boy, we're in for a delightful changeover - based on what I ran into today, there should be a lot of digital convertors for sale OPEN BOX. - was in RS for something else, asked about the HD box just out of curiousity, and learned something very interesting from the manager. Did you guys know, you don't need rabbit ears, or an antenna, to get HD with those boxes? That's great - all you do is plug them into your tv, and "It looks like a dvd." When I tried to suggest that you needed some way to get the signal in (i.e., antenna) - he looked at me like I was challenged.

Oh well. But don't you think a few people will heed his advice, and then bring the box back because they aren't getting a picture? (btw, he also told me that I'd be better off to skip the box, and just go with Direct or dish.)
Wow. This is pretty sad because those stores don't train people to know about the technology. It's easier and cheaper to hire monkeys.

Dark Rain

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingvee
Only slightly OT, but boy, we're in for a delightful changeover - based on what I ran into today, there should be a lot of digital convertors for sale OPEN BOX. - was in RS for something else, asked about the HD box just out of curiousity, and learned something very interesting from the manager. Did you guys know, you don't need rabbit ears, or an antenna, to get HD with those boxes? That's great - all you do is plug them into your tv, and "It looks like a dvd." When I tried to suggest that you needed some way to get the signal in (i.e., antenna) - he looked at me like I was challenged.

Oh well. But don't you think a few people will heed his advice, and then bring the box back because they aren't getting a picture? (btw, he also told me that I'd be better off to skip the box, and just go with Direct or dish.)
Oh boy, that's just dandy! Education is going to be fun this next year... remind me to unplug my phone on Febuary 17th next year! I guess the only silver lining from your radio shack experience is that he didn't try to sell you a special "digital" antenna! Please try to educate these fools anytime you get a chance... hopefully through osmosis some of the DT-challenged who work at these establishments will figure this stuff out! At least we hold DTV seminars on a regular basis to help out the public so that those guys aren't the only source of information. Good story though... thanks!

4lids

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingvee
Only slightly OT, but boy, we're in for a delightful changeover - based on what I ran into today, there should be a lot of digital convertors for sale OPEN BOX. - was in RS for something else, asked about the HD box just out of curiousity, and learned something very interesting from the manager. Did you guys know, you don't need rabbit ears, or an antenna, to get HD with those boxes? That's great - all you do is plug them into your tv, and "It looks like a dvd." When I tried to suggest that you needed some way to get the signal in (i.e., antenna) - he looked at me like I was challenged.

Oh well. But don't you think a few people will heed his advice, and then bring the box back because they aren't getting a picture? (btw, he also told me that I'd be better off to skip the box, and just go with Direct or dish.)
That's too bad you had that experience with your RS person. The one we've dealt with has always been very helpful and seems to really know his electronics (Westdale). We were just in there today to get a new UHF antenna for our roof for the converter box reception and he said that we were the 12th customer this week complaining about the RCA box not pulling in Ch 9 (KCRG)...so this is definitely a manufacturer defective box sold by Wal-Mart and I still have yet to hear from the gov't coupon people on how this is going to be handled in regards to getting our coupon back or Wal-Mart selling more than 2 brands. Will most likely be calling them again.

TooCheap2BuyHDTV

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

glad you've had good luck, 2cheap...while I don't expect brain surgery from RS, I do expect the managers to have half a clue; when this one didn't, I felt I needed to share. - plus, figured you could all use the wincing laugh.

I'll be watching here, cuz I will be needing a box by next year - have a little set at work, just so I can watch the weather and radar on good ole KWWL - so whatever I get will have to work with channel 7. And hey - if I don't need a pesky antenna, so much the better.

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

well i dont have an rca box but i have a pvr1600 and a vbox 150 that do not see kcrg at all on vista or mce2005. Same antenna hooked to my huges sat box gets kcrg though fine. Its got to be their signal info or something is freaking my pcs out. I have deleted the channel and change the freq a couple time and still nothing. Sucks watching LOST in SD since its still not that good this season anyways. I dont mind watching crap in HD.

fireburster

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingvee
glad you've had good luck, 2cheap...while I don't expect brain surgery from RS, I do expect the managers to have half a clue; when this one didn't, I felt I needed to share. - plus, figured you could all use the wincing laugh.

I'll be watching here, cuz I will be needing a box by next year - have a little set at work, just so I can watch the weather and radar on good ole KWWL - so whatever I get will have to work with channel 7. And hey - if I don't need a pesky antenna, so much the better.
I know what you mean...we took a chance at Wal-Mart thinking that maybe, just maybe, the clerks had a clue as to what was going on and would be knowledgeable about the boxes they were selling (hey, they were younger than us -- those type usually know more about electronics these days, right?). Well, they didn't know anything and in fact one told us we could buy some sort of DVD player adaptor to hook to the tv/box then hook the box to the TV! Now, why would we go and spend another $17 out of our own pocket for an adaptor when we could return the defective box, get our out-of-pocket $ refunded, and then go to RS and get another box that we know would work the way it's supposed to? We walked out with the exchanged box in case the coupon program comes through and we can get our coupon back by returning the box with the receipt stating a coupon was used.

We did purchase a signal booster device when we thought it was our antenna problem in not pulling in KCRG. It helped somewhat with the clarity and a bit stronger signal meter, but didn't bring in the missing station. We are also going to install a new UHF antenna and take down the old antenna so there will be no interferring/conflicting reception signals between the two. Who knows, by the time we're all done with this...we probably should have just gone out and purchased an HD tv! But this gives my spouse something to do and tinker around with.

TooCheap2BuyHDTV

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

The 1st stop when I was shopping for a converter was to RS out by Lindale Mall since I was heading to the NW side. 1st Rat Shack, Best Buy, the Wamart. The salesman didn't have a clue. I played kinda dumber than I actually am on the D2A box. Got the same speil: maybe you should go to satellite dish. I mentioned to him i was acquainted with the big dish. He said oh no, I need a small dish. I didn't want to tell him, nor had the time to tell him able the c band, ku, and mpeg receivers I use to pick up lots of HD channels and pay a whole lot less than DISH or DIRECT. The RCA box I bought a Walmart would work fine for anything I want except it won't scan in KCRG. I bought the Indignia from Best Buy, I scanned lots faster and scanned in everything except 20.1 and I was able to enter it manually and it took and added it. 2 cheap: I wouldn't worry too much about switching your antenna unless other channels were borderline. I have the very large large CM 3228 (Ithink) with the CM 7777 pre amp and the RCA still doesn't scan KCRG in. on my 61" RCA HDTV Kcrg has the strongest signal if you can believe the strength meter on it. I think it is the station. Someone else might be able to answer this better than me, but I was thinking that I had heard discussed KCRG broadcasts their digital siganl in VHF rather than UHF (?), maybe that has something to do with it and if thats the case next year that may be more of a problem. I wish I could trade this RCA box for another Insignia.

Bear

ZBear

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZBear
The 1st stop when I was shopping for a converter was to RS out by Lindale Mall since I was heading to the NW side. 1st Rat Shack, Best Buy, the Wamart. The salesman didn't have a clue. I played kinda dumber than I actually am on the D2A box. Got the same speil: maybe you should go to satellite dish. I mentioned to him i was acquainted with the big dish. He said oh no, I need a small dish. I didn't want to tell him, nor had the time to tell him able the c band, ku, and mpeg receivers I use to pick up lots of HD channels and pay a whole lot less than DISH or DIRECT. The RCA box I bought a Walmart would work fine for anything I want except it won't scan in KCRG. I bought the Indignia from Best Buy, I scanned lots faster and scanned in everything except 20.1 and I was able to enter it manually and it took and added it. 2 cheap: I wouldn't worry too much about switching your antenna unless other channels were borderline. I have the very large large CM 3228 (Ithink) with the CM 7777 pre amp and the RCA still doesn't scan KCRG in. on my 61" RCA HDTV Kcrg has the strongest signal if you can believe the strength meter on it. I think it is the station. Someone else might be able to answer this better than me, but I was thinking that I had heard discussed KCRG broadcasts their digital siganl in VHF rather than UHF (?), maybe that has something to do with it and if thats the case next year that may be more of a problem. I wish I could trade this RCA box for another Insignia.

Bear
Is there anyone out there who wants to trade with Bear or me for our RCA DTA 800 converter boxes for either the DigitalSTREAM DTX9900 (me) or the Insignia NS-DXA1 (Bear)? My RCA is NEW IN BOX...never been opened/used! (But, I'm guessing no one will bite at this.)

TooCheap2BuyHDTV

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

What do you guys think of this? New job with different station?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=72640468

iowahawkeye

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by iowahawkeye
What do you guys think of this? New job with different station?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=72640468
Hopefully not one of the DSM's

kanderna

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I've been noticing that when I try to go directly from guide to 9.1 and 9.2, it doesn't happen, but then when I just use channel up/down, it tunes in fine.

On my DTV H20, 9.1 and 9.2 have been a little touchy...seems to pixilate every, say, 60 seconds or so in various small pixelation spots of the screen for a moment or two, then corrects.

7.1 and 2...had issues as 4lids pointed out in various posts prior, haven't had issues since. Last Sunday, I bought my mom a Olevia 37" HDTV with internal tuner, with a cheapo Philips amped indoor antenna ($20), all scanned in except KWWL (might have been issues as 4lids posted about), have not had chance to go over there and re-scan for her (she's 80, would never figure it out).

Mom is in east Marion, I am near Kirkwood south CR.


Anyway, for MCE 2005 recordings, a trick I've learned with it is whenever scheduling a recording you must have, might not be a bad idea to leave MCE up and running before the show airs tuned to channel you've scheduled, minimize it though (assuming its tuned in to channel you're recording just fine) - seems to do the trick for me...its quirky that way sometimes.

bagdropper

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Well i moved my antenna for a bit and now im just missing 9.1 but 9.2 is perfect. No clue as to why but its happened before. This is with two different pcs, one mce 2005 and one vista.

both of my recording boxed are headless in the basement. So i have to go down and put monitor on then run to the attic to moved the antenna and then run down to check the signal strength. its a pita.

fireburster

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Looks like there's good news for those in the fringes: the "final final" DTV table of allotments is out, and it appears KWWL got its request to expand its coverage area. They'll be able to put out 22.6 kW effective radiated power on channel 7 rather than the 3.2 kW they were initially allotted.

Source: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...CC-08-72A2.pdf (page 15)

dline

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Just curious for my Mom's new Olevia.

I'm currently using for her Atsc tuner a Recotan unamplified indoor antenna - about a 5-6 year old relic of sorts - it actually tunes in everything fairly solidly except Ion (no biggie), and 7-1 and 7-2 - absolutely nothing. I tried a Philips $20 amplified cheapo last week, I even used a Monster coax to hook it up straight to the antenna...same thing and honestly a less forgiving antenna. The Recotan works much better ?!?

I'm stunned I haven't been able to get anything 7-1 and 2 and no other outdoor type antenna is possible. Even get 20-1 fairly consistent and 12-1 off/on - not bad for the backside and 2-1, 9-1, 28-1, 32-1 rock solid.

So I'm curious as to what indoor solutions others use - this will sit somewhere on her rotating shelf that the Olevia sits on - the antenna will rest behind on the shelf as it is now (must be small, and I'd think VHF/UHF for next year).

It seems the TV stops in the autoscan at 55-1 and thinks about it for roughly 30 seconds, and then finishes out - no KWWL - like the TV doesn't know what to do with it (the signal meter is all lit up and the scan itself pauses from progessing as normal, like it has a strong signal just like the ones it does pull in), say like it can't translate it to 7-1 maybe. Heck, for all I can figure out, the set itself may be at fault - it just will not accept through manually entering 7-1 or any channel it does not scan in. I almost think I should bring the set over to my place and hook it up to the 4228 and see if it grabs what my bedroom PC monitor/TV, a 26" Olevia I use here for this, is receiving everything including 7-1. Tnes them all in here, then take it back over, hook it back up as before, and see if it tunes 7-1.

The way I figure it, all the other stations come in solid from that direction at her place...what is up with this location and/or antenna type. She lives in far eastern Marion near 13/151 intersection.

Thanks for any help/suggestions. If there's a successful indoor set top antenna that works for anybody, I need suggestions!

bagdropper

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I have a Winegard roof top antenna and I still have on/off issues with KWWL. My antenna is pointed pretty much directly at the KWWL tower and all other stations come in strong. I'll have days where KWWL signal is in the 70's and cutting out. It's the only channel I experience this with.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

bagdropper - I live in Iowa City and also don't receive 7-1 or 7-2 (at all). I use a Terk HDTVa indoor antenna and receive all other area HD channels very well. KCRG 9-1 and 9-2 sometimes are choppy during bad weather, but everything else is fine. If you go to antennaweb.org it shows, that from my location anyway, the KWWL antenna and KCRG antenna are about the same direction. The only difference is the KWWL antenna is 5 miles further away. At Marion I would expect that distance shouldn't be too much of an issue. I would say that if you pick up the other channels fine I don't think a different indoor antenna will make much difference.

kohlgrafk

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I live in Center Point, and have not been able to get KWWL in at all for a while now. I use a root-top style antennae in the attic. I used to get everything fine until probably December time frame when 7-1 had problems. Adjusted the antennae and things were decent for a while. Then 7-1 had problems again. Fortunately, I now get 2, 7 and 28 in HD through Directv, so I haven't even tried to get 7 OTA working again.

cpkramers

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

4lids,

Will we not see the increased power until the 2009 switch over?

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Im in NE CR and 7.1 is working for me but 9.1 isnt. Its weird because they are all pretty much the same direction.

I have a homemade antenna in the attic that has be working fine and not moved. I get 9 with qam atleast but its nicer OTA and i cant record qam.

fireburster

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Now what happened at kgan? www.kgan.com
Looks like the news gal and the weather guy are gone?
Linsey Grames did the kgan news last night at 10pm.

iowahawkeye

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

What KGAN needs to do is clean out their owners (Sinclair). I know it's not going to happen, but Sinclair doesn't seem to care about quality, just money.

dornitram

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

KGAN TV fires the talent & everyone else

"In two weeks KGAN TV fired 17 employees. They have openings for almost every possible position at a TV station. We stopped watching KGAN because they not only fired the talent, they also fired nearly everyone else. We enjoyed Cary J. Hahn, who just got fired."

After you click the link below, click "show origional post"

http://mypc.press-citizen.com/blogs/...blogposts=4517

iowahawkeye

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by iowahawkeye
Now what happened at kgan? www.kgan.com
Looks like the news gal and the weather guy are gone?
Linsey Grames did the kgan news last night at 10pm.
Other than the fact the people at KGAN lost there job, I don't see any problem here.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsduke
4lids,

Will we not see the increased power until the 2009 switch over?
The increased power is for the future channel 7 DT... hence, there can be no boosting it until the analog is signed off. We are stuck with the channel 55 power levels until February of 2009, and then we will turn that off and switch to our (now) temporary channel 7 digital with 3.2 KW ERP. We then will be getting a transmitter from one of our sister stations that is capable of putting out the necessary power for 22.6 KW ERP.

I believe that even the 3.2 KW (VHF channel 7) will do a better job at covering things than the 194 KW on our channel 55 does, just with the additional height. Once the power goes to 22.6 KW, things should be great and we will then have a backup rig as well.

There is a chance that we may try to boost the power on our little VHF DT, but the parts I'd use to do that are currently in use as the analog backup right now. We would send the solid state amplifier into Harris so that it can be reconfigured for digital broadcasts and that will get us to around 6.4 KW then. I'll keep you posted as we get closer in the next year!
-Jarrett (4lids)

4lids

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

What is the difference in height between the towers?

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

KGAN-from what Ive heard, the weather guy got canned cause of a 2nd drunk driving recently

bagdropper

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

So anyone one with MCE PC getting 9.1? both my vista and xp machines dont get 9.1 but do get 9.2 and every other OTA channel in CR.

fireburster

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by kohlgrafk
bagdropper - I live in Iowa City and also don't receive 7-1 or 7-2 (at all). I use a Terk HDTVa indoor antenna and receive all other area HD channels very well. KCRG 9-1 and 9-2 sometimes are choppy during bad weather, but everything else is fine. If you go to antennaweb.org it shows, that from my location anyway, the KWWL antenna and KCRG antenna are about the same direction. The only difference is the KWWL antenna is 5 miles further away. At Marion I would expect that distance shouldn't be too much of an issue. I would say that if you pick up the other channels fine I don't think a different indoor antenna will make much difference.
Curious what part of Iowa City you are in.
I live on the SW side and have trouble pulling in much. I don't have a rooftop antenna but even using a Terk hasn't yielded much.

diggerg56

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsduke
Other than the fact the people at KGAN lost there job, I don't see any problem here.
Your right, I don't see any problems either, and I noticed tonight she's now on the kgan homepage.

iowahawkeye

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I live in North Liberty and I have bunny ears on my roof, and I have no issues whatsoever with reception on any local channel. I get 2, 7, 9, 12, 15, 17 (comes in like crap though; I think this is UITV), 20, 28, 32, and 48 (plus all the sub-channels). Anyone know is Fox 15 out of Ottumwa not broadcasting in digital yet? If they are then for some reason I get the analog signal, but not the digital signal.
Also, i put up one of those clip on antenna's to my dish...didn't work. I got 28, that was it. It actually worked better indoors laying on the ground when i first tested to it make sure it actually works. I was very disappointed. So I put up the bunny ears to test them out and they work great. I'm just going to leave that up.

bud2380

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsduke
What is the difference in height between the towers?
Both antennas are on the same tower right now... but the DT stick is sidemounted about 240 feet below the top-mounted channel 7 antenna. That channel 7 antenna has been swept and can handle the future DT. It will have the benefit of not only the extra 240 feet but also the lack of nulls (dead spots) thanks to tower legs... more omnidirectional. -4lids

4lids

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4lids
Both antennas are on the same tower right now... but the DT stick is sidemounted about 240 feet below the top-mounted channel 7 antenna. That channel 7 antenna has been swept and can handle the future DT. It will have the benefit of not only the extra 240 feet but also the lack of nulls (dead spots) thanks to tower legs... more omnidirectional. -4lids
Cool! Thanks for the update.

I wish it was Feb 2009. I'm sure these changes will alleviate any issue I currently have with KWWL.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by bud2380
I live in North Liberty and I have bunny ears on my roof, and I have no issues whatsoever with reception on any local channel. I get 2, 7, 9, 12, 15, 17 (comes in like crap though; I think this is UITV), 20, 28, 32, and 48 (plus all the sub-channels). Anyone know is Fox 15 out of Ottumwa not broadcasting in digital yet? If they are then for some reason I get the analog signal, but not the digital signal.
Also, i put up one of those clip on antenna's to my dish...didn't work. I got 28, that was it. It actually worked better indoors laying on the ground when i first tested to it make sure it actually works. I was very disappointed. So I put up the bunny ears to test them out and they work great. I'm just going to leave that up.
If you are trying to just use "bunny ears" to pick up channels, you'll have a tough time picking up anything UHF (14-69) since bunny ears only are VHF antennas (2-13). If you are close enough or have the ears pulled out to about the length of a 1/4 wavelength of the signal, than you may be able to pick up some UHF. Right now, KWWL DT is way up at channel 55 right now and will be there until next year when we can move back to channel 7. Let me know if you have more questions.
-Jarrett (4lids)

4lids

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4lids
If you are trying to just use "bunny ears" to pick up channels, you'll have a tough time picking up anything UHF (14-69) since bunny ears only are VHF antennas (2-13). If you are close enough or have the ears pulled out to about the length of a 1/4 wavelength of the signal, than you may be able to pick up some UHF. Right now, KWWL DT is way up at channel 55 right now and will be there until next year when we can move back to channel 7. Let me know if you have more questions.
-Jarrett (4lids)
I'm not having any problem picking up UHF channels on my bunny ears. It's working great. I just can't get 15-1 digital signal. I get 15 analog, but not the digital. Channel 7, 9, 28, 32, 48 all come in crystal clear.

bud2380

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

15 digital (KYOU Fox Ottumwa), if it is in fact on the air, isn't very strong, and the FCC documents I've seen from them online so far seem to indicate they're not interested in putting out much more than they are now. I used to get a snowy-but-watchable analog picture from them. (It was like vacationing in southern Iowa without leaving home.) But their DT -- which uses channel 14 for the time being -- doesn't even move the signal meter.

dline

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by bud2380
I get 2, 7, 9, 12, 15, 17 (comes in like crap though; I think this is UITV), 20, 28, 32, and 48 (plus all the sub-channels).
There's a 17 in Cedar Rapids, but it's a low-power analog translator for Trinity Broadcasting Network.

dline

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by dornitram
What KGAN needs to do is clean out their owners (Sinclair). I know it's not going to happen, but Sinclair doesn't seem to care about quality, just money.
That can be said for ANY radio or TV station owned by a corporation.

Dark Rain

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Definitely true. Sinclair is just one example and they have killed KGAN.

dornitram

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Considering the market we're in, local ad revenue from KGAN is pretty small. Sinclair were looking to save money. It's business as usual.

Didn't KWWL do this a several years ago when they got rid of Gary Sarnoff, Bryan Lesley and some upper management?

Dark Rain

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

This will be the 3rd or 4th chief meteorologist for KGAN in the past year though. This is plain ridiculous. Why do you think so many people watch KWWL and KCRG over KGAN?? Reliable names and faces. Maybe Sinclair should learn from this. I actually liked Brian Hughes, and he was the only reason I ever tuned into channel 2. The rest of their broadcast team isn't worth watching.

bud2380

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Ivory, 115.4 in Iowa City is KFXA-DT. I've read on dslreports that there were issues with KFXA/Mediacom in the Waterloo area last night during the BCS Championship game.

dornitram

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

I have been getting OTA locals for almost 4 years. Most of the time it works great, but some times it does not come in. I have not been able to figure out why. Some times it helps to tweak the antenna. Some times I think it is weather related.

redhawk

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by dornitram
Ivory, 115.4 in Iowa City is KFXA-DT. I've read on dslreports that there were issues with KFXA/Mediacom in the Waterloo area last night during the BCS Championship game.
Well... not sure what the problem is in Mediacom-land, but tonight Bones is clearly in SD on 115.4, even though OTA Fox is clearly showing this episode in HD.

ivorygate

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Same problem in Dubuque with mediacom, No BCS championship game and Bones in high def.. Fox hasn't been hd the last 2 days here...

hawkeyeone

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Call the KFXA station and ask for the engineer. (319) 393-2800

Probably easier than calling Mediacom.

tsduke

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

KFXA has an HD-when-available channel on 28-1 and an always-SD subchannel on 28-2.

I have had times when they've had mapping problems and the two channels got switched around -- the SD channel was 27-1 and the HD-when-available was on 27-2. I just checked and today is not one of those times, but do you think it could have happened to Mediacom at some point, and that their receivers may have just been tricked into switching to KFXA-SD?

dline

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

Luckily, all my locals are coming up properly via CFU; after all of the grief and such a couple years ago, KFXA has been a pleasant surprise around here.

slightly OT - watched Iowa bb game on Big Ten HD last night - if there are any Hawk fans who have this available, and haven't sprung for it - I'll give it a hearty thumbs up. Games look superb; the network must be using its "A" team of techs to broadcast the HD games. Likewise, CFU must not be skimping on bandwidth - the broadcast looks a lot better than the team.

flyingvee

Cedar Rapids IA HDTV

dline - re your sig. (the end of analog is near)

its gonna be a real clusterflock, isn't it? My wife has been around all of my gear for 3 years now, we've talked, discussed various things, etc. So she should be at least semi-cognizant of what is going on, right?

Nope - all it took was one confusing statement about HD and rabbit ears on KWWL, by some moron at BB, and we spent an entire meal, trying to explain the end of analog, and who it was going to effect. Still not sure if I got it thru her head....

Reckon some salespeople are salivating, waiting for the shills to come into their clutches...

flyingvee

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