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Updated: 2008-06-11 08:31:19 (1360)
Huntsville AL HDTV

Who has any info for Huntsville's Fox 54.1 WZDX and 54.2 WABM, like in when and if are they getting the necessary equipment to pass along Fox's HD signal to the valley? And, BTW, what's up with WAAY 32.1? Are they ever going HD? I know your out there. Anybody?...Anybody?...Beuller?...Beuller?

Wolfie

Answers: Huntsville AL HDTV ( AVS Forum Local HDTV Info and Reception )
Huntsville AL HDTV

Does anyone know if InHD has been removed from the Comcast channel lineup? Thanks

alwilli

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by jennifermcb
On 2 occasions, it has a few seconds of video with a lot of pixellation, then it stops recording. On the other 2 occasions, there was no recording whatsoever. However, it always records VM, which comes on during the next hours, without any issues whatsoever.

I'd appreciate your insight
Try this:

Delete the Season Pass for Gilmore Girls
Do a cold reboot (unplug the power for 20 seconds)
Add Gilmore Girls back as a Season Pass
Have it record ALL episodes, not just new episodes (they may be labeled wrong in the EPG).

Also, check your signal strength during the 7:00 hour.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by taz291819
Try this:

Delete the Season Pass for Gilmore Girls
Do a cold reboot (unplug the power for 20 seconds)
Add Gilmore Girls back as a Season Pass
Have it record ALL episodes, not just new episodes (they may be labeled wrong in the EPG).

Also, check your signal strength during the 7:00 hour.

1-3 done.
I'll have to wait until I'm home during the 7:00 hour to check the signal. There's got to be some kind of glitch during that time of day.

Since GG isn't broadcast in HD, I should just record it on 15 instead of 15-1. DUH

Since you have the same HD Tivo that I have, do you happen to recall the 2 button sequence you can push on the unit itself that will show the signal strength on the current channel?

jennifermcb

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by jennifermcb
1-3 done.
I'll have to wait until I'm home during the 7:00 hour to check the signal. There's got to be some kind of glitch during that time of day.

Since GG isn't broadcast in HD, I should just record it on 15 instead of 15-1. DUH

Since you have the same HD Tivo that I have, do you happen to recall the 2 button sequence you can push on the unit itself that will show the signal strength on the current channel?
Sorry, don't remember the two button sequence.

And GG is broadcast in HD, as well as Veronica Mars. Hey, at least it'll record VM, IMO, it's a much better show. GG has gone down hill this season.

I think your problem is a reception issue. As I am having problems with Fox54 at night. Our locations are pretty much reversed, since I live in Florence. I have to move the antenna all over the place (using a rotator) to get Fox54 steady the past few weeks.

The good thing is, it'll start warming up next month, so these issues should dissolve.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by taz291819
Sorry, don't remember the two button sequence.

And GG is broadcast in HD, as well as Veronica Mars. Hey, at least it'll record VM, IMO, it's a much better show. GG has gone down hill this season.

I think your problem is a reception issue. As I am having problems with Fox54 at night. Our locations are pretty much reversed, since I live in Florence. I have to move the antenna all over the place (using a rotator) to get Fox54 steady the past few weeks.

The good thing is, it'll start warming up next month, so these issues should dissolve.
It's been so long since I've seen GG in HD that I'd forgotten it is now broadcast in HD.

My signal strength in 15-1 at 7:15 was around 16. On all other channels it was at least 80. Are you saying that cold weather diminishes signal strength?

The 2-button sequence to check current signal strength on the HR10-250 is 'info + right arrow button.' It will take you to an info screen, and you can scroll down to see the signal strength.

jennifermcb

Huntsville AL HDTV

Yes, cold weather can affect signal strength. Actually, any quick changes in the temperature will do it.

From around 5:00pm to 9:00pm, the temperature is dropping. At some point, the drop comes to a slow point, and you'll notice that's when your reception gets better.

Also, when any moisture starts to freeze (especially in trees or on buildings), that will really screw with a signal. Like I said, I'm having the same problems with Fox54.

We may just have to wait it out for another few weeks.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by T3chDad
Has Comcast dropped WAAY (ABC) from QAM? If not, would someone please post the frequency? My TV doesn't pick it up in a search, but it finds all the others (CBS, NBC, PBS, FOX, etc.)

Thank you.
I found it...92.10

Here's what I get with my QAM tuner (Comcast Extended Basic/No STB):
81.1 - ESPN
81.2 - FSN
81.3 - USA
81.4 - Lifetime
82.1 - TBS
82.2 - Fox News
82.3 - CNN
82.4 - TNT
83.5->83.51 - Digital Music
91.1 - CBS HD
91.2 - FOX HD
91.4 - Stormcenter 19
91.9 - The Tube (music)
92.10 - ABC HD
112.5 - NBC HD
112.7 - WAFF Weather
112.8 - APT HD (PBS)
112.12 - PBS Create
113.2 - DIY
131.2 - MTV Jams
131.12 - Nick Jr.

T3chDad

Huntsville AL HDTV

T3chDad, I'm confused. How are you pulling in ESPN/USA/CNN/etc. digital channels without a set top box? I have Knology and a QAM tuner on my TV, but I thought we could only get ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX/PBS digitally without a STB.

I know I'm missing something here.

aeroguy

Huntsville AL HDTV

I think its up to the cable co. As you can see from his post, he is on Comcast. Maybe comcast sends those over QAM. Knology does not.

Character_Zero

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Character_Zero
I think its up to the cable co. As you can see from his post, he is on Comcast. Maybe comcast sends those over QAM. Knology does not.
Actually, they both send them via QAM, it just that Comcast doesn't encrypt those particular channels. QAM is a modulation scheme, like 8VSB (ATSC).

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Has anyone noticed that the signal quality of Comcast HD has dropped over the last several weeks? ESPN looks terrible (for HD).

I have read about other HD providers compressing their signals due to bandwidth limitations. Is this what Comcast is doing?

OG

ogreen

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by bamafamily
ok..Ran a test using Knology Local HD's on the Extended Basic cable line versus the Silver Sensor OTA from out in Monrovia..I used the discrete value my JVC 56FH97 gave me. The Cable line only gave me 5 channels (901 - 905) while OTA gave me 12 (15-1, 19-1&2, 25-1&2&3, 31-1, 48-1&2&3, and 54-1&2. Here is the signal levels I came up with...

Cable-----Level-----OTA-------Level
901--------77------31-1--------82
902--------77------19-1,2------77
903--------80------48-1,2,3----78
904--------77------25-1,2,3----76
905--------77------54-1,2------78
None---------------15-1--------75
Guys... THIS was posted a few pages back referring Knowlogy and the FIVE channels that can be tuned FREE from their Extended Basic cable. It seems they are providing ONLY the -1 subchannel.

Comcast apparently is more open in what they're stuffing into their cable as the poster above listed TWENTY+ channels across various RF and subchannels.

Is there a gross difference between these two cable systems whereby Knology assigns a 3-digit, 900-series channel with NO subchannels; and Comcast can be tuned via ATSC standard RF and subchannel nomenclature? Or is all this a function of the TV, STB, or tuner being utilized by these two posters?

It would seem that Comcast is stuffing ESPN, FSN, USA and Lifetime onto a single RF -- surely they're limiting (downsampling) the bandwidth of EACH network to get it all into the one channel, right? [Not to mention at least two (91 & 112) are carrying two HD networks in a single RF.]

So I ask: Is Comcast the better for providing a full assortment of subchannel stations (the Tube, WAFF Weather, Storncenter 19, PBS Create) to their cable customers; or Knology by (potentially) not compressing the signals and providing a 1-to-1 channel assignment?

I hope someone addresses my questions. Personally, I'm using D* and OTA so I really couldn't care less WHAT the cable systems are doing; but I find it interesting that they want the comsumers to believe they MUST PAY high $$ equipment rental fees and subscribe to costly "digital" packages to receive Hi-Def TV. Not to mention they are cheating the consumer by COMPRESSING these HD stations for the sake of saving bandwidth, which reduces costs for the provider, making for a more handsome profit.

Is this accurate, or have I misjudged the local cable providers?

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by aeroguy
T3chDad, I'm confused. How are you pulling in ESPN/USA/CNN/etc. digital channels without a set top box? I have Knology and a QAM tuner on my TV, but I thought we could only get ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX/PBS digitally without a STB.

I know I'm missing something here.
You're not missing anything. I just hooked-up the TV (Philips 50PF7321D/37), did a channel scan, and those are the usable channels it found. Don't confuse Digital with High Def. I denoted "HD" where the channel has HD content. It also found hundreds digital channels in the 105.X 106.X 107.X 108.X range that I suspect are PPV streams. They're blank most of the time, but sometimes when we're surfing, we come across a movie that's playing on one of these channels. We've never watched one through though. Sunday night I was flipping through the channels and Starwars EP2 was on. After watching it for about 40 minutes it froze. When I changed channels and then went back, it was blank. ???

Quote:
Originally Posted by ogreen
Has anyone noticed that the signal quality of Comcast HD has dropped over the last several weeks? ESPN looks terrible (for HD).
I've only had my TV since the 4th, so I'm not sure. I was having a signal problems (blocks and sound breakup) until I moved the feed to that TV to the splitter closest to the ped. Now my QAM reception is great. HD looks great too (720p).

T3chDad

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Actually, they both send them via QAM, it just that Comcast doesn't encrypt those particular channels.
Thats what I meant.

Character_Zero

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Character_Zero
Thats what I meant.
I know you did, just bustin' your chops.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Any one using the Comcast DCT6412 HDMI port? I currently am using the component connection but tried to hook up thru HDMI (to see if quality got better) and I get no picture.

OG

ogreen

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ogreen
Any one using the Comcast DCT6412 HDMI port? I currently am using the component connection but tried to hook up thru HDMI (to see if quality got better) and I get no picture.

OG
I can't post urls here until I have five posts...
I googled "Comcast DCT6412 HDMI" and the first link is a lengthy thread on this board on the problem.

showthread.php?t=649941

T3chDad

Huntsville AL HDTV

I just called Comcast and they told me that some of the boxes don't have a "hot" HDMI port. They are bringing another (my 4th in about 15 months) tomorrow.

I was just about to switch to satellite but Comcast keeps adding more channels. If this new box doesn't make thinks better, I will probably have to switch.

OG

ogreen

Huntsville AL HDTV

Anyone know of a local source for the Zenith Silver Sensor HD antenna? I'd like to pick it up locally so I can easily return it if it doesn't work out.

Jon

jonlowe

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonlowe
Anyone know of a local source for the Zenith Silver Sensor HD antenna? I'd like to pick it up locally so I can easily return it if it doesn't work out.

Jon
Circuit City carries the philips version for $25...but they're out of stock.

T3chDad

Huntsville AL HDTV

I just looked again and I see how you could be confused... their MAP is confusing as it shows TWO vectors, one for all but 48 & 67. But, looking at the table it shows 54 is now clustered with the others and 48 is the lone Southern tower.

HAS 54 RELOCATED ?

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

WZDX 54 (Digital UHF 41) has been on WAAY's tower since they went digital a few years ago.

-g

gcrawford

Huntsville AL HDTV

Has anyone else lost OTA APT stations the last couple of days? wanted to check before I mess with the antenna.

millercv

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by gte024h
Thanks Andrew for the speedy response. I realize that the VHF was a waste, but I assume that after the digital switchover some local stations will begin broadcasting digital on their the VHF channel... have to wait and see.
None of the Huntsville stations use VHF what-so-ever, and never will.

And The CW's digital channel is RF14, analog RF15. You're seeing it show up on channel 15 because of the PSIP data in the digital stream. Antennaweb may be showing the digital assignment, which doesn't make a difference.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

I just tested the analog channel 48 and it is crystal clear. I assume that if the analog 48 is good, then the digital 48 should be as well. Could it be that the USB HD tuner on my Windows MCE 2005 HTPC is messed up? It is an AverMedia Volar ATSC tuner. I did an auto channel scan and it did not find 48. Then I manually tuned to 48 and still got nothing. Could it be a driver issue?

Just noticed that when the planes fly low coming into the airport (about 4 miles away) the picture on channel 48 gets kinda wavey, like when you used to degauss the old CRT monitors. Could that be a problem? The I only hear the planes overhead every couple of hours, and only if I am outside.

gte024h

Huntsville AL HDTV

WAFF-DT is only broadcasting at 41 kW; analog 48 is going out at 1170 kW.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=591

As I understand it, they are broadcasting at the full power allowed by their license and they may apply for more after the transition is done.

On rare occasion, I can get them OTA from my location 50 miles away. But I believe those periods of reception coincide with periods of tropospheric ducting.

Kafei

Huntsville AL HDTV

Anything's possible... do you have any other ATSC tuner to try? I use both the HDTV-Wonder and Hauppauge 1600 in my PC. Elevation is your friend, multi-path your enemy. Have you MANUALLY tuned to 49? Try raising it up (if you can) or just try it someplace else... your den, back yard, anyplace to see if you can get it -- I get a respectible (77 - 80%) signal at 9.9 miles.

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by gte024h
Hi Guys,

Does anyone have trouble getting WAFF 48.1 (NBC) OTA? I just put up a large antenna and according to antennaweb.org I should be able to get WAFF (it shows as green). I get all the other digital channels (even CW) with a solid signal. I live off Wall Triana in Madison so all the towers are in the same direction (East, ~88 degrees) from me. Antennaweb shows WAFF at 96 degrees, but regardless of which direction I point the antenna I get nothing (not even blocky smudges... nothing, like it's not even there). There are few trees and no hills anywhere around here.

Can you guys think of any reason why I would get a strong signal on every digital station except WAFF? The antenna I bought was the largest one available at Lowes (directional, UHF and VHF, about 15 feet long) and it runs via RG6 about 20 feet directly into my receiver.
I ran the OTA setup on my Samsung and it pulled in all the local Huntsville stations EXCEPT WAFF. It hasn't been an issue for me since my TV has the QAM tuner so I get WAFF-HD through Knology. I live off Wall-Triana just north of Highway 72.

nasa60

Huntsville AL HDTV

QAM is not really an option for me unfortunately as my tuner does not support it. I think I just need to get up on the roof with the antenna and spend the afternoon trying to aim it... I am debating whether NBC is worth the hassle

gte024h

Huntsville AL HDTV

Comcast now has Food Network HD on channel 414, and HGTV HD on channel 415.

Does anyone know what 402 is possibly going to be? I'm speculating it's NFL Network HD.

Mr Zoid

MrZoid

Huntsville AL HDTV

402 is SportSouth HD during home Braves games, and is also used for CSS HD football games.

austinmm6

Huntsville AL HDTV

Did anyone notice a blurry picture whenever ABC was showing the extras like the intros of the teams? I kept seeing a second or two of unfocused picture when ABC had the players introducing the starting line-ups. I thought it was my eyes until my wife said that she noticed it too. I then started seeing it whenever they changed cameras. what would have been causing that?

Brett

brettwf

Huntsville AL HDTV

Figured out my problem with getting channel 48. All I had to do was unhook the VHF part of the antenna. I didn't need to put it on the roof, or even change the direction! Not sure why the VHF would cause just channel 48 to not come in, but I'm not complaining because I am getting all channels rock solid now

gte024h

Huntsville AL HDTV

COOL! Thanks for keeping us informed. How was the signal being split to each the UHF and VHF elements on the antenna? Maybe that was the culprit, or maybe just the reflection caused by the elements (e.g. multi-path).

Welcome to HDTV! What s/w do you plan to use? Oh, and the going rate for 500GB HDDs is around $100 :-)

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

I just disconnected the "phase wires" that went from the VHF booms to the hookups.

I am using the AverTV Volar USB ATSC tuner with Windows MCE 2005. It works very well. The machine has ten 500GB drives right now, so I will be able to record a lot of HDTV as well as SDTV via my nVidia DualTV card.

gte024h

Huntsville AL HDTV

How come Comcast gets more HD channels and Knology hasn't added any?

Character_Zero

Huntsville AL HDTV

As far as ch 48....

I'm with Comcast and have 3 set ups in my house - 1) 50" plasma with STB; 2) 37" LCD connected directly to cable and 3) 32" LCD hooked up to an antenna.

I only get Ch 48 in HD via the STB. 48-1, 48-2 and 48-3 do not show up on either of the other 2 sets. Is it possible that NBC HD is now encrypted?

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

dougb415, I have similar issues.

I am having problems picking up channel 48 digital, NBC Weather+, and The Tube today. I have not touched my antenna; 24 hours ago I got all three fine, and now don't pick up a signal at all for any of them over the air.

Channel 903 also disappeared from Knology cable this morning, but is now back. Weather+ and The Tube are not back on cable.

Is anybody else having this problem?

thunderclap8

Huntsville AL HDTV

Knology 903 (WAFF HD) was black on my set all afternoon and evening yesterday also. Hopefully, it will be back tonight since we have the first NFL regular season game on.

nasa60

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Character_Zero
How come Comcast gets more HD channels and Knology hasn't added any?
I'm wondering the same thing. I had to add Digital Preferred Pkg and HD Service today just to get ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD (I already get all the local HD channels via QAM tuner). If they don't add some more interesting HD channels, I'll be going back to the basic service after football season is over.

nasa60

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderclap8
dougb415, I have similar issues.

I am having problems picking up channel 48 digital, NBC Weather+, and The Tube today. I have not touched my antenna; 24 hours ago I got all three fine, and now don't pick up a signal at all for any of them over the air.

Channel 903 also disappeared from Knology cable this morning, but is now back. Weather+ and The Tube are not back on cable.

Is anybody else having this problem?
I'm guessing they're installing UPGRADED equipment there at WAFF. You HAVE noticed their PSIP time is an hour ahead? I spoke w/their engineer a couple o' months back and he explained how their system was going to be upgraded... the time issue was a result of both the DST and software "upgrade" and couldn't be corrected via a multitude of tricks/settings but WOULD be with the new hardware.

I noticed this as well but this morning, -1 is back, -2 & -3 are AWOL.

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by nasa60
I'm wondering the same thing. I had to add Digital Preferred Pkg and HD Service today just to get ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD (I already get all the local HD channels via QAM tuner). If they don't add some more interesting HD channels, I'll be going back to the basic service after football season is over.
What's the price difference? Right now I have expanded-basic analog cable. I eventually want to get a dual CableCard computer and don't mind spending the money on the hardware, but I'd hate the added monthly fees (2 CableCard rentals + upgrade to digital package + HD channels... x 2 cablecards?). Sounds like at least an extra $30 more per month? Ouch, but oh so glorious.

aeroguy

Huntsville AL HDTV

It's Thursday afternoon and the WAFF HD station on Knology is still out on my TV (channel 903). It says signal is low or scrambled. Can anyone confirm for me whether they are receiving the WAFF HD channel on Knology cable?

Thanks

nasa60

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by aeroguy
What's the price difference? Right now I have expanded-basic analog cable. I eventually want to get a dual CableCard computer and don't mind spending the money on the hardware, but I'd hate the added monthly fees (2 CableCard rentals + upgrade to digital package + HD channels... x 2 cablecards?). Sounds like at least an extra $30 more per month? Ouch, but oh so glorious.
Hopefully, it's ok to talk about pricing. In order to get HD service, you have to get the Digital Preferred Pkg ($16.95) or the Digital Gateway Pkg ($9.95). With Gateway, all you get is the PPV channels (big whoop) and the music channels (another big whoop). Preferred gets you those plus another 50 or 60 miscellaneous channels. HD service is $9.95 more. I already had expanded cable, phone, and high speed internet. Also, my QAM tuner pulls in all the local major network HD channels (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, APT) for free. So I'm paying an extra $27 per month for essentially 3 HD channels that I will actually watch (ESPN, ESPN2, DISCOVERY HD).

nasa60

Huntsville AL HDTV

Hey, thanks for subsidizing the clear QAM channels some of us get!

aeroguy

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by nasa60
It's Thursday afternoon and the WAFF HD station on Knology is still out on my TV (channel 903). It says signal is low or scrambled. Can anyone confirm for me whether they are receiving the WAFF HD channel on Knology cable?

Thanks
I can confirm that I'm getting 903 via QAM. But 133 (Weather Plus) and 175 (The Tube) are still blank. I can also receive 48.1 ota on one of my two antennas, but 48.2 and 48.3 are blank on both. Weird all around! Guess there's nothing to do but be patient.

Andrew, thank you for the theory, that makes a lot of sense. I had indeed noticed that the timing was off by an hour, so I'll be glad to see that fixed!

thunderclap8

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderclap8
I can confirm that I'm getting 903 via QAM. But 133 (Weather Plus) and 175 (The Tube) are still blank. I can also receive 48.1 ota on one of my two antennas, but 48.2 and 48.3 are blank on both. Weird all around! Guess there's nothing to do but be patient.

Andrew, thank you for the theory, that makes a lot of sense. I had indeed noticed that the timing was off by an hour, so I'll be glad to see that fixed!
That's strange then. I don't understand why you are receiving it and I'm not. I guess I'll run AutoProgram again tonight. I've never been able to receive WAFF OTA. It's the only local HD channel I can't lock onto.

nasa60

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by aeroguy
Hey, thanks for subsidizing the clear QAM channels some of us get!
Your welcome. I've already decided if they don't add more good HD channels by January, I'll be cancelling those services and returning the digital box. Right now, I'm getting the services at a discount for the first 3 months so the monthly price is no increase over what I was paying.

nasa60

Huntsville AL HDTV

I just got an hdtv yesterday and hooked up an antenna. I found out that the WAFF digital channels were coming in on 49.3, 49.4, and 49.5, rather than 48.anything. Hope this helps out anybody who can't find them right now.

tiffman

Huntsville AL HDTV

My mother just got a new 32" Sony Bravia. She has Mediacom in Monrovia.

I did a digital/analog channel scan and only found WZDX-HD on 108.1.

By FCC law Mediacom is supposed to show the 4 major networks HD channel clear if they carry them.

Does anyone know what the clear QAM network channels on Mediacom are?


Thanks!

lowdown256

lowdown256

Huntsville AL HDTV

I'm using the HDMI port on my 6412. The picture looks pretty much the same as with component.

Has anyone found out where INHD is yet??

austinmm6

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by austinmm6
Has anyone found out where INHD is yet??

Have you looked at channel 520? Last week (or so) it had the INHD logo and sound only.

ogreen

Huntsville AL HDTV

520 is the HD Special events channel, so far only used for NFL Network HD games.

austinmm6

Huntsville AL HDTV

Can some of my fellow Comcast users post their signal strenght info?

To get to the info follow the below steps:

1. Turn Cable box on.
2. Turn unit off.
3. Press select from remote or on box
4. Select d03
5. post SNR and AGC values
6. select d04
7. post SNR and AGC values
8. Turn unit off and back on to return to normal use

My results are:
d03 - Out of Band SNR=21.4 dB Good, AGC=16% Good
d04 - In Band SNR=35 dB Good, AGC=75% Fair

I am having significant noise in my picutre quatility. I had a Comcast Tech hang out and watch some Golf Channel HD and he saw the problem but didn't know how to fix it. I would like to see some other users values to see if it is a problem with just my signal.

BTW - The Comcast Tech told me that soon the firewire ports are going to be disabled via software update.

Thanks,
OG

ogreen

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonlowe
Anyone know of a local source for the Zenith Silver Sensor HD antenna? I'd like to pick it up locally so I can easily return it if it doesn't work out.

Jon
I got one at Sears a while back.

Montezuma58

Huntsville AL HDTV

jennifermcb,

How is you're reception currently with The CW? My issues with Fox54 are gone, since it's warmed up a bit.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Jon..

You find a Silver Sensor yet?? I may be able to help out in your testing.....

shoot me an email..

Mark

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonlowe
Anyone know of a local source for the Zenith Silver Sensor HD antenna? I'd like to pick it up locally so I can easily return it if it doesn't work out.

Jon

bamafamily

Huntsville AL HDTV

Any way we can get WHNT to use the subchannels again to show more NCAA Tourny games? They are showing the FLorida game over the Kentucky game on Friday

Character_Zero

Huntsville AL HDTV

Just picked up an LCD (Sharp LC-C3742U) this week and I'm still trying to figure it all out. I have Comcast, and am not using a box or antenna.

Edited T3chdad's post to show what I'm getting with my QAM tuner (Comcast Basic/No STB):
81.1 - ESPN
81.2 - FSN
81.3 - Lifetime
81.4 - USA
82.1 - CNN
82.2 - Fox News
82.3 - TNT
82.4 - TBS
83.5->83.51 - Digital Music (also 83.1 and 83.2)
91.1 - CBS HD
91.2 - FOX HD
91.3 - The Tube
91.4 - Stormcenter 19
92.1 - ABC HD
112.1 - NBC HC
112.2 - WAFF Weather
112.3 - PBS Create
112.4 - APT HD (PBS)
113.3 - Fine Living
122.1 ->122.22 Digital Music
122.25 ->122.49 Digital Music
131.1 - MTV HD
131.2 - Nick Jr
131.10 MTV Jams

I couldn't find DIY -- looks to have been replaced by Fine Living?

Anyway, maybe it's because I'm not using an STB or antenna, but a bunch of the channels that should be HD look pretty so-so -- grainy mostly. I tried to do a back and forth comparison between the analog and HD versions of the local channels, and it was hard for me to tell very little, if any, improvement in the HD version. Is this what you all get too, or do I need to do some adjusting on my set?

Thanks for your help!

acorns7

Huntsville AL HDTV

DIY went MIA early last week (around March 13th). I know I had watched something on the evening of Sunday the 11th.

When the program is not HD, I can't see much of a difference between the analog and digital signals. HD stuff on the other hand....HUGE difference.

T3chDad

Huntsville AL HDTV

You must have a pretty good analog signal because (way back) when I still had both Analog and Digital in my station list there was a hugh difference. Analog's colors were faded and random, and edges were not crisp, and the audio was poor with buzzing at banners on some material. Not so with Digital. But that was way back when they were passing 480i on 31 & 48. Now their default is 720p and 1080i so the difference is really great.

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

Are there any Mediacom customers on here? I just got my TV yesterday and was able to pick up a few HD channels through the QAM tuner. The only problem was that the picture would break up every 30 seconds or so like the signal wasn't strong enough. Is anyone else seeing poor signal strength for Digital channels through Mediacom? Is it possible I am misinterpreting the problem and it is really a problem with my tuner? If not, would this be any better if I was paying extra for HD through the set top box?

Thanks,
Rob

dealeo

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by ogreen
Any one using the Comcast DCT6412 HDMI port? I currently am using the component connection but tried to hook up thru HDMI (to see if quality got better) and I get no picture.

OG
We picked up one of these boxes last Friday. Took it home, hooked it up via HDMI and the box locked up. Hooked up component and it worked just fine. Brought it back to the office, got a 2nd unit, same response, so we set up an appt with one of their techs for this morning.

Why would they provide STBs with HDMI, and the HDMI port doesn't work??? Weird!

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by taz291819
jennifermcb,

How is you're reception currently with The CW? My issues with Fox54 are gone, since it's warmed up a bit.
I'd like to know why the CW is not on Comcast's HD lineup. We watch Gilmore Girls, and I want Lorelei in hi-def

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithScott
The local board is back up.

tennesseevalleyhdhome.net
I am trying to sign up, and every time I put in the auth code, it tells me it's wrong. 4 times in a row? My eyes can't be THAT bad!

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by dougb415
We picked up one of these boxes last Friday. Took it home, hooked it up via HDMI and the box locked up. Hooked up component and it worked just fine. Brought it back to the office, got a 2nd unit, same response, so we set up an appt with one of their techs for this morning.
Just called my wife - the tech brought out 3 other boxes that had bad HDMI ports. He is going back to the shop to pick up the one remaining unit they have and will be back out this afternoon. He's also going to bring out some diagnostic gear, because he thinks the problems is with our TV - even tho my wife showed him that our DVD player with HDMI connects and works just fine with our LG 42" plasma. He tried to pull some crap about being a Physics major, blah blah blah. Guess he didn't realize that my wife has her Doctorate in Physics and is a manager out at Marshall - oops!

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
He tried to pull some crap about being a Physics major, blah blah blah. Guess he didn't realize that my wife has her Doctorate in Physics and is a manager out at Marshall - oops!
Haha. Was he trying to explain that the problem was the bits weren't accelerating fast enough? Was there a magnetic field?

tech : I think the HDMI port is bad.
wife : But this HDMI DVD player works.
tech: Well I was a Physics major so....

Character_Zero

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by dougb415
I'd like to know why the CW is not on Comcast's HD lineup. We watch Gilmore Girls, and I want Lorelei in hi-def
Call Comcast and tell them you want it. Really, that's the only way it's going to happen. Once one cable system carries us, the rest will follow suit. Legally, there's nothing we can do.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by dougb415
Just called my wife - the tech brought out 3 other boxes that had bad HDMI ports. He is going back to the shop to pick up the one remaining unit they have and will be back out this afternoon. He's also going to bring out some diagnostic gear, because he thinks the problems is with our TV - even tho my wife showed him that our DVD player with HDMI connects and works just fine with our LG 42" plasma. He tried to pull some crap about being a Physics major, blah blah blah. Guess he didn't realize that my wife has her Doctorate in Physics and is a manager out at Marshall - oops!
You wouldn't believe how many times I've heard the "I was a Physics major" excuse. I really was a Physics major, let them know that, and say Physics has nothing to do with it.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Am I missing something here? Do these guys go to college, graduate with a degree in Physics and after spending thousands of dollars and years of devotion to higher education decide to don a jumpsuit and work for the cable company as a field technician? Either they're full of sh!t or cable rates are high because it takes a BS in Physics to install a cable box! Sounds like the BS is the only common thread amongst these techs ! :-)

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

They major in physics but can't hook up a cable box. You ask if the eSATA port is active and they look at you like you just spoke chinese.

Edit : No offense to the techs that actually know what they are talking about and frequent this board.

Character_Zero

Huntsville AL HDTV

Great thread.....

gcrawford

Huntsville AL HDTV

As of April 13, Comcast Huntsville has moved all local HD (QAM) channels to their OTA channel.

10.1 PBS HD
19.1 CBS HD
31.1 ABC HD
48.1 NBC HD
54.1 FOX HD

T3chDad

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by T3chDad
As of April 13, Comcast Huntsville has moved all local HD (QAM) channels to their OTA channel.

10.1 PBS HD
19.1 CBS HD
31.1 ABC HD
48.1 NBC HD
54.1 FOX HD
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. What is Comcasts OTA channel? They don't broadcast OTA.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by taz291819
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. What is Comcasts OTA channel? They don't broadcast OTA.
Those are the channels that the stations themselves broadcast OTA...comcast just matched the OTA channels on QAM.

T3chDad

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by T3chDad
Those are the channels that the stations themselves broadcast OTA...comcast just matched the OTA channels on QAM.
Ahh, I'm with ya now. They've remapped the channels to match the actual OTA channel. Makes sense.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by taz291819
Ahh, I'm with ya now. They've remapped the channels to match the actual OTA channel. Makes sense.
Yeah, but ONLY if you know that APTV is run out of Birmingham where PBS is WBIQ, channel 10 (analog).

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by taz291819
Ahh, I'm with ya now. They've remapped the channels to match the actual OTA channel. Makes sense.
It seems like they also changed the location of the HD channels. ESPN-HD used to be 202, now it's 404, etc. My wife says the guide is acting erratically, that sometimes the HD channels are there, sometimes not. She says she can't add the HD channels to her Favorites, nor can she record them.

Has anybody else (with the Motorola 6416) noticed this?

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by acorns7
Just picked up an LCD (Sharp LC-C3742U) this week and I'm still trying to figure it all out. I have Comcast, and am not using a box or antenna.

Edited T3chdad's post to show what I'm getting with my QAM tuner (Comcast Basic/No STB):
81.1 - ESPN
81.2 - FSN
81.3 - Lifetime
81.4 - USA
82.1 - CNN
82.2 - Fox News
82.3 - TNT
82.4 - TBS
83.5->83.51 - Digital Music (also 83.1 and 83.2)
91.1 - CBS HD
91.2 - FOX HD
91.3 - The Tube
91.4 - Stormcenter 19
92.1 - ABC HD
112.1 - NBC HC
112.2 - WAFF Weather
112.3 - PBS Create
112.4 - APT HD (PBS)
113.3 - Fine Living
122.1 ->122.22 Digital Music
122.25 ->122.49 Digital Music
131.1 - MTV HD
131.2 - Nick Jr
131.10 MTV Jams
We just got an LG 50PC1DRA (50" plasma w/ built-in DVR), and did a scan this weekend. I'm not at home to verify, but I don't remember us getting 131.1 MTV HD. This is M-HD, correct? I know they just did some changes, as all of the HD channels on the STB moved to a new location.

We also have the Motorola DCT-6416 STB - my wife has gone bonkers on the DVR and is recording multiple shows daily. Time to look into that "recording via firewire to PC" option....

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by dougb415
I'm not at home to verify, but I don't remember us getting 131.1 MTV HD. This is M-HD, correct?
It appears that I'm talking to myself in this forum

Anyway, 131.1 is scrambled on our set.

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

I'm still here, but I've got Directv. Nobody is posting at tennesseevalleyHDhome.net either.

penn7

Huntsville AL HDTV

Looks like nothing happens in the Tennessee valley, I wish I could contribute more and post something worthwhile.

VBToad

Huntsville AL HDTV

I have something happening on channel 31-01 OTA during daytime broadcast. I see a lone pixel in the upper right corner of the screen. At first I had thought maybe it was my new TV but if you changed channels it would disappear, it does not show up on the analog chennel 31-00 or the other digital broadcast stations. I receive the OTA (Over the Antenna) Through a Vip 622 Dish sat box then to a Hitachi 42shd69 TV. Other than that the pitcher is perfect, does anyone else in the 31 ABC viewing area see this?.

VBToad

Huntsville AL HDTV

I haven't seen it on my OTA TV.

jimmy1

Huntsville AL HDTV

Just dropping in to say I just bought a Terk Slim Profile HDTV-S Antenna, which I connected to my Directv HD DVR and even though it's still on the floor in my Family room I.m able to get CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox. Got PBS for a minute or so but need to get it up higher and adjust it directionally for best recption. So, if you live in the Hampton Cove Area, especially up by Cobblestone Cove neighborhood--lots of mountain terrain in the way--this antenna works great!!

FYI!

garmcd

Huntsville AL HDTV

Thought I would chime in from southern Tennessee. I get most of the Huntsville stations, but there are a few stubborn holdouts. The Huntsville towers are all about 50 miles from here, bearing 149-151 degrees.

WHDF 15.1 - no problems ever (expected, as the tower is in southern Giles County).
WHNT 19.1 & 19.2 - Good at night, usually 17dB or better. Sometimes too weak during the daytime.
WFIQ 22.1, 22.2, 22.3 & 22.4 - Once in a blue moon. Odd, as there is no antenna pointed in that direction.
WHIQ 25.1, 25.2, 25.3 & 25.4 - Very good at night, usually about 19dB. Usually watchable around the clock.
WAAY 31.1 - Sometimes very strong and watchable, sometimes 10dB or so and too weak.
WAFF 48.1 - Never been able to pick it up.
WZDX 54.1 - Occasionally a watchable signal late at night, but never at daytime and never in prime time.
WAMY 54.2 - Occasionally a watchable signal late at night, but never at daytime and never in prime time.

I see a lot of construction permits for Hunstville on the HDTV Magazine web site, so I am hopeful things are going to get better.

Kafei

Huntsville AL HDTV

Hi, I'm from Fayetteville myself and can pick up all of the channels you listed except for WFIQ. My setup is an 8-bay UHF antenna connected to a pre-amp, a line distribution amp and split out to two separate coax feed lines. It is also connected on a 360 degree remote controlled rotator. One cable goes to a Voom receiver and the other goes to a 65-inch DLP television with integrated tuners. I can pick up all stations on each setup around the clock, with the exception of course being WFIQ. I can also receive WKRN channel 2 Nashville 24/7 without any drop-out and at 99% signal quality. I also can receive the My Network (FOX) affiliate 24/7 as well without significant problems. The rest of the channels excluding WSMV channel 4 can often be received after sunset.

lilyarbie

Huntsville AL HDTV

I am about 65 due east of Huntsville about a mile south of the state line I pick up abc, nbc, cw, fox, cbs is my hardest to hold have a 72 signal but still get pixalation now and then on a cold nite. Other then that signals are ok. glad your at least receiving OTA signals.

VBToad

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kafei
Thought I would chime in from southern Tennessee. I get most of the Huntsville stations, but there are a few stubborn holdouts. The Huntsville towers are all about 50 miles from here, bearing 149-151 degrees.

WHDF 15.1 - no problems ever (expected, as the tower is in southern Giles County).
WHNT 19.1 & 19.2 - Good at night, usually 17dB or better. Sometimes too weak during the daytime.
WFIQ 22.1, 22.2, 22.3 & 22.4 - Once in a blue moon. Odd, as there is no antenna pointed in that direction.
WHIQ 25.1, 25.2, 25.3 & 25.4 - Very good at night, usually about 19dB. Usually watchable around the clock.
WAAY 31.1 - Sometimes very strong and watchable, sometimes 10dB or so and too weak.
WAFF 48.1 - Never been able to pick it up.
WZDX 54.1 - Occasionally a watchable signal late at night, but never at daytime and never in prime time.
WAMY 54.2 - Occasionally a watchable signal late at night, but never at daytime and never in prime time.

I see a lot of construction permits for Hunstville on the HDTV Magazine web site, so I am hopeful things are going to get better.


Kafei, I am another Tn resident, just off 231 about 3 miles into TN. I get all the H'ville stations great with a silver sensor, but I also have a Channel Master 4248 (yagi) and a have used a CM 4228 (8 bay bowtie) both work extremely well. What antenna are you using? At 50 miles you really do need a big antenna.

Unless you have terrain issues, If you put up a good outdoor antenna with a rotator, you should be able to get Nashville and Huntsville.

Have you tried www.antennaweb.org to see what it says?

leww37334

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kafei
I see a lot of construction permits for Hunstville on the HDTV Magazine web site, so I am hopeful things are going to get better.
I'm not sure what this means, nor could I find any info at the HDTV Magazine site. Can you elaborate please?

dougb415

Huntsville AL HDTV

I think a lot of those construction permits are old records. You can check out the official FCC records website here: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/audio/tvq.html

Type in the station callsign and it will display all kinds of records on each station. As far as I know, most if not all of the stations in Huntsville should be operating at full power capacity. WAFF is the lowest powered station in Huntsville and apparently they aren't going any higher than the power they are currently running at now. (41KW or 41,000Watts)

lilyarbie

Huntsville AL HDTV

I'd post a link, but I'm not privileged enough yet.

As to what antennae I am using, there are 3 combined on one coax. One VHF pointed at Nashville for 2-13, two of the UHF 8-bays (brand uncertain). One UHF aimed at Nashville, the other at Huntsville. I'd guestimate they are about 30 feet high.

That's a shame about WAFF. The Nashville NBC affiliate is broadcasting at 42.4 KW on RF 10 and is almost exactly the same distance from me as WAFF. I get 80% signal strength from Nashville and 5-10% from Huntsville.

TVFool reckons that I could pick up all the stations in both directions with a 200 foot tower. ;-)

Kafei

Huntsville AL HDTV

Hi, I have Comcast and in SW Huntsville and am experienceing alot of Macroblocking, not on all channels, but at least half the HD channels. Any of you guys have luck getting comcast to fix such an issue?

PowerWheels

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kafei
I'd post a link, but I'm not privileged enough yet.

As to what antennae I am using, there are 3 combined on one coax. One VHF pointed at Nashville for 2-13, two of the UHF 8-bays (brand uncertain). One UHF aimed at Nashville, the other at Huntsville. I'd guestimate they are about 30 feet high.

That's a shame about WAFF. The Nashville NBC affiliate is broadcasting at 42.4 KW on RF 10 and is almost exactly the same distance from me as WAFF. I get 80% signal strength from Nashville and 5-10% from Huntsville.

TVFool reckons that I could pick up all the stations in both directions with a 200 foot tower. ;-)
have you tried a preamp yet? It might help

leww37334

Huntsville AL HDTV

Yes, there is a preamp on the antenna mast. The signal is split to 2 TV sets - one analog and one digital.

Here is the link to HDTV Magazine that shows the status of all the Huntsville stations (and Nashville).

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/programm...t.php?dma_name[]=Nashville&dma_name[]=Huntsville-Decatur%20%28Flor%29

Kafei

Huntsville AL HDTV

I thought WAFF was broadcasting their DIGITAL at only 2.5KW -- yes, two and 1/2 KW.

They have no motivation (nor do ANY stations) to do a good job on the DIGITAL side as it's the ANALOG broadcast the advertisers are paying for!

Andrew Hornfeck

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kafei
I'd post a link, but I'm not privileged enough yet.

As to what antennae I am using, there are 3 combined on one coax. One VHF pointed at Nashville for 2-13, two of the UHF 8-bays (brand uncertain). One UHF aimed at Nashville, the other at Huntsville. I'd guestimate they are about 30 feet high.

That's a shame about WAFF. The Nashville NBC affiliate is broadcasting at 42.4 KW on RF 10 and is almost exactly the same distance from me as WAFF. I get 80% signal strength from Nashville and 5-10% from Huntsville.

TVFool reckons that I could pick up all the stations in both directions with a 200 foot tower. ;-)
Your problem is that you're combining the two 8-bay antennas. Even though they are in different directions, you're still experiencing multipath.

You have two options:

1. Use a simple switch to switch between the two antennas.

2. By notch filters for your problem channels in Huntsville, and install them inline of the antenna pointing towards Nashville. This is the costly method ($30/filter), but at least you won't have to switch between antennas.

To test if this is true, don't combine the antennas, and run the line from the antenna pointing towards Huntsville directly into your receiver. I bet it works.

taz291819

Huntsville AL HDTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by taz291819
Your problem is that you're combining the two 8-bay antennas. Even though they are in different directions, you're still experiencing multipath.

...

To test if this is true, don't combine the antennas, and run the line from the antenna pointing towards Huntsville directly into your receiver. I bet it works.
I have given some attention to this matter, but I have not ventured up the antenna mast (I'd have to rent a cherry picker to get up there).

What I did was to build a homebrew antenna similar to this one. I then hung it in a south-facing window on a hook left over from the days of macrame pot hangers. I will add that this is a ground-level window and I am 50 miles away from the towers.

I was able to pick up every station except WAFF with this setup. So there must be some flaw with my mast setup.

Kafei

Huntsville AL HDTV

I'd like to toss in my two cents, and recommend the PHDTV1 silver sensor antenna like everyone else here seems to. I get beautiful reception (I'm in Madison) with it just sitting indoors by my tv. Only one oddity: Reception is much better if I tilt the antenna on its back (so the point of the array is sticking straight up). Makes it look like a very strange Christmas tree

Anyway, thanks for the recommendation! I'm seriously considering cancelling my cable subscription now.

thunderclap8

Huntsville AL HDTV

I finally wired my Radio Shack omnidirectional antenna in the attic. It is the one that is shaped like a round disk. By turning it on its side, I get all local HD channels. FOX and WAMY would not come in with it sitting on its bottom. Analog channels are almost unwatchable so deleted them. The antenna is approx 15' from the ground.

Also getting NBC 13 out of B-ham but not the digitals, snowy but watchable. May have to do some tweaking to see if the digitals will come in after the weather cools down.

brettwf

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