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Question Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections ( AVS Forum Rear Projection Units )
Updated: 2008-06-14 05:35:59 (160)
Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Hitachi 65F710A good tv to buy or no?? Hardly any reviews on this tv. Does the Hitachi (smaller model) 57F710A have a better picture than the 65? Good TV, bad TV?? Ups and downs of Hitachi?? Do these hitachi model have awesome picture or is it lacking compared to other rear projection HD models??
Please any advice and info would be greatly appreciative.
Thanks
JR

Answers: Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections ( AVS Forum Rear Projection Units )
Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

My 65F710A got here today and this thing is a MONSTER 375 POUNDS. this big truck pulls up and one skinny guy get out. I look at him, he looks at me and I say "Where's your partner?" He says I'm it. (I see him sizing me up to see if I got what it takes to help him carry). I say, "I'm not helping you left that thing 8 steps into my house................You can forget that." He's says he don't thinK two guys can do it "safely" anyways. I agree, I'm not knocking my new CRT up 8 steps. He calls his boss and tells him this is at least a 3 man job. His boss says uecweb.com only pays for a one man Delivery.

How can one man do a "Delivery inside the entrance door" of a 375 pound TV ?

So after two weeks I'm still waiting to get my TV. uecweb.com and the Delivery people are talking about who's going to pay $185 for two more guys...........Me or uecweb.com. It's not going to be me.

On top of this I'm out of a days pay for staying home all day

The Joys of not buying local via B&M

Unbelievable

Another thing I just notice, uecweb.com is a 100% email only coustomer service. No Phone Number on their site. I learned my lesson about buying big ticket item none B&M...........never again

jones07

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by in2h2o
I was wondering what the difference was also between the 710S and 710A and how do they differ from the S715? Thanks
I seem to recall someone suggesting different stores use different letters at the end in an attempt to avoid price-matching. I believe the example was CC putting "A" at the end and Sears using "S".

That information could be utterly false though.

ClutchBrake

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I was wondering what the difference was also between the 710S and 710A and how do they differ from the S715? Thanks

in2h2o

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Wonder many people picked this unit up this past weekend with a sale over the weekend?

If so had it not been on sale would people have purchased this unit?

Anyone know the difference between the 700S vs 700A?

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Seems not many owners to the F710A series. Seems great rating so far for it.

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by cozmo1
How do hook this up? I have the H20 receiver as well but I'm using just the HDMI cable. SD looks ok I guess. HD looks fantastic! How do I get the SD channels to look good?
Sorry for the delay in responding. When you say "how do you hook this up?" I assume you mean set up the output format? Go into settings on the H20 and then to TV set up and then you go into the view mode...I have it set to "stretch" then I go to resolution and set to native 480I/1080I and then I am done. SD material looks excellent.....especially cartoons... and most sd stations. hd on this box looks very good, however, I think the TS360 had a slightly better HD PQ...that's just my opinion and based only by what I see....Unscientificly, of course.

mikelets456

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikelets456
I have the 51M200 and with HDMI to DVI I have the option for 540P or 1080I when a 480I or 480P signal is sent to the tv. right now I have the H20 (directv reciever) set to 480I HDMI out od SD material and the SD picture is really impressive. Hd at 1080I is really nice...of course.
How do hook this up? I have the H20 receiver as well but I'm using just the HDMI cable. SD looks ok I guess. HD looks fantastic! How do I get the SD channels to look good?

cozmo1

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by BackQuack
The current models have this feature also, it's called Virtual HD and will convert any input (other than HDMI) to 1080i or 540p. Just an FYI for those deciding between the two series. So far, after 2 months, I'm very happy with my 51F710A.
I have the 51M200 and with HDMI to DVI I have the option for 540P or 1080I when a 480I or 480P signal is sent to the tv. right now I have the H20 (directv reciever) set to 480I HDMI out od SD material and the SD picture is really impressive. Hd at 1080I is really nice...of course.

Factory settings are horrible....out of the box you'll want to turn down contrast, sharpness, brightness,etc. turn off Black and edge enhancement. And many other tweeks. has nice stretch modes for 4:3 material (4:3 expanded is pretty good with "plumpiness" not noticable in the screen's center.

my previous HDTV died so I had to buy something asap.
For $999 delivered, I wanted to get something to last for 2-4 years when this 1080P stuff all shakes out.

I think for rear projection CRT's the Mits, Hitachi's and Toshiba's are your best bets. i went with the Hitachi's after extensive research and $$$$...I wanted the Mits, but the "same" TV was about $500-$600 more.

mikelets456

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I was in Circuit City yesterday and they have the F59 series in there system now showing the MSRP as their price. This makes me think that they will be released next month.

Beerstalker

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

that's good to hear

jones07

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I do not have any updated info on the release date, I was just going by their January press release.

zcondo

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Just bought a Hitachi 65F710 what is ultimate burn it time before I get the 65F710 ISF Calibrated ?

Was going to wait for the new Hitachi 65F59, but with no updated news on the F59's, I could not past up a really good (but not great) price with free shipping and no tax on the 65F710

Thanks

jones07

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by zcondo
After going round and round on what TV technology to buy, I have decided on the new Hitachi 51F59 that comes out in April,

?
Are you sure the F59 is coming out in April ? I have my doubts.
I wrote Hitachi before I bought the 710 last week, and the email I got back said no info available. And that's on something that suppose to hit the street in a few weeks ? ................I don't know

jones07

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I have to reply and say this in one great tv. Ive had my 51f710s since nov 05 along with a toshiba upconverting dvd player and the picture is great. Sd cable is watchable, sd satellite is good, upconverted dvd is very good. But the built in ota tuner and hd xbox 360 are outstanding with very crisp and bright vibrant colours without the hint of scan lines, these hitachi crt's are one of the best bang for the buck tv's on the market.
Ive been lurking on these forums for 2 years before I finally made my purchase and I went out looking for a plasma or dlp but came home with this instead and I do not regret it one bit. Sorry for the rant but these tv's dont get much pub around here. Oh and one last thing my sons and I have been gaming in this tv at least 2 to 3 hours per day and no signs ov burn in whatsoever, just have to watch normal programing along with gaming and calibrate the torch factory settings and youre all set.

compscott

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

So what user settings do you have your tv's adjusted to?

cozmo1

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I have the 65F710 and love the PQ and as far the lip sync part, I believe that has to do more with the station and not the TV. My Tv has thes same prob on HD OTA but only on the WB and its only once in awhile. One problem the 65F710's have is that the audio output on the TV doesn't work. I had my xbox hd A/V connected to one of the inputs then the TV audio out to my stereo...but no sound. So I'm forced to have my xbox audio directly to the stereo. Don't know if this is fixed in the 710a version. For me, its a minor defect for the great PQ and options i get with it...especially at $1799. It does have the virtual HD upconverter.

byteme1029

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by BackQuack
The current models have this feature also, it's called Virtual HD and will convert any input (other than HDMI) to 1080i or 540p. Just an FYI for those deciding between the two series. So far, after 2 months, I'm very happy with my 51F710A.
I agree, when watching hd programming, PQ is amazing. So far, I'm very impressed with my 51F710A. I'd like to see the new models when they become available just to compare.

cozmo1

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
the new model will have an "upconvert" feature to take an SD input to 1080i
The current models have this feature also, it's called Virtual HD and will convert any input (other than HDMI) to 1080i or 540p. Just an FYI for those deciding between the two series. So far, after 2 months, I'm very happy with my 51F710A.

BackQuack

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I won't be ready to buy until Sept anyway, so will wait for the new model at $200 less, but if I was planning to buy NOW the lack of information on their web site would have steered me to some other brand

I even used their request form and asked about the current model, and the reply I received said NO they do not upconvert... obviously their support staff does not know what they are doing!

My current list of purchase options (subject to anything new + better by Sept) is narrowed to one model, Hitachi 57F59... in spite of their staff not knowing the features of what they sell

John T Smith

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbsezwazup
I think that I will stick it out and get a 65F59. Only a few months to go.
Good idea. Boy, that is one hell of a bargain.

IB

inky blacks

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I'm considering a CRT based model as a temporary 2-3 year solution until the microdisplay options are a little more seasoned and fine-tuned and more content becomes HD. I was leaning heavily towards the DLP camp. The new 1080p DLP sets are impressive, but still need a few kinks ironed.

I've waited a while already before making any type of HDTV jump. I'm currently doing my viewing on an old 20" screen from about 11', so any type of unit is going to be an improvement. The old unit is also on it's last legs, so I'm going to need something pretty soon.

So the new rumbling in my mind is:
  • Approx $1,000 for a CRT based solution for the next 2-3 years
  • Approx $3,500+ for today's 1080p DLP solution

Decisions decisions....


Rick

HD Rick

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

My original choice was between Toshiba and Hitachi...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=650677

...with Sony as an "outside" possibility (about $400 more for same size)

But that quickly dropped to Hitachi only when I found out that both the Toshiba and Sony models I was considering were no longer being made

I also do not want to buy DLP due to cost and "newness" of the technology (I just sold a house and left behind a 55" Toshiba [4:3 CRT screen] and was very happy with it for 6 years) as well as the high cost of a new bulb every couple of years

Now that the new Hitachi 57F59 is going to have the "upconvert" function to display the SD input as 1080i on screen, the same as the Toshiba that is no longer being made, my choice has boiled down to just that one brand/model

If something else "better" (same or better features at less $$) comes on the market before my new house is built and I'm ready to move in (late Sept or early Oct) I will reconsider... but for now, my choice is the Hitachi 57F59

John T Smith

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I think that I will stick it out and get a 65F59. Only a few months to go.

bigbsezwazup

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

So what is the best HD rear projection 57 to 65 in.???
Im looking for awesome picture and sound.
By the sounds of it Hitachi is a no.

trulife

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

"By the sounds of it Hitachi is a no"

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060105/20060105005057.html?.v=1

I **was** leaning toward the Hitachi 57F710A but now I am going to wait for the new 57F59 both because I won't be ready to move into my new house until Sept or Oct and because the new model will have an "upconvert" feature to take an SD input to 1080i

DLP is said to be a better picture, but is more expensive AND you have to replace the bulb every couple of years, at $300 or so

John T Smith

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I have the 65710a and it has a great picture, but I have lip sync issues with the HD OTA reception. Also the screen has quite a bit of glare

brokat

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Glare is definitely a problem. Some members have removed the anti-glare screen and reported much better picture. I have not.

SD with the 57F710A is excellent. Of course HD is great too but since there is still so much programming in SD it's important that it look good.

You might want to wait till April for the new Hitachi CRTs.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=649849&page=1 Post #8

footer2000

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Yes, I would like to know also as I am trying to decide between the $1800 Hitachi 65F710A and $2300 Mitsubishi WS65517. I don't trust the new technologies yet after being an early adopter of a Toshiba 65H80. Nothing is wrong with the Toshiba, but would like to have a more feature rich and mature HD CRT RP. I have asked this same question in other threads here also. Here are links to the pdf files for both TVs, maybe this will help as I am leaning toward the Hitachi.

Mitsubishi WS65517
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/televis...ils.asp?id=186

Hitachi 65F710A
http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/proj.../65F710A.shtml

bigbsezwazup

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by yourflorida
Hello all, I have been lurking and learning... Now I pulled the trigger and brought home a 51f710 last night.

I have been having trouble with setup/choices.

Current setup: Sony DVD on Component, ANt in, DirectTV (RCA) on Svideo.

problems:

Watched DVD last night, VERY GREEN!!! on dim scenes bad, brighter sceens looked okay... the movie was Collateral, lots of night time scenes. When I played Nemo, picture was better. ?? was this the movie, the DVD player or TV settings?

Remote control does nothing but TV... the manual has very limited setup info for DVD and Sat setup.... none work.... I am not asking for much, just run my darn DirectTV and a basic Sony DVD... ?? Where are more codes? The manual says that if the remote won't work to check with the devices manual... how is that going to help? RCA/DirectTV has no idea what this remote is going to want for setup.... ?? Any help with remote functions please ??


I am getting the DISH HD package soon, I hope that helps me get some HD content. Right now I have a large UHF on tower, get a station thats about 35 miles away, PBS... otherwise, no HD yet for me... :-(



Software version on my set is V0100.0003 !!! I know this is old, saw in previous messages that Hitachi will send upgrade, version is up to "140" now... Does this jive ??

Anyway, sorry for the newbie questions. Any tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Make sure all component video cables are in the correct spots and pluged in snug...on the DVD player and the TV. I had this problem....Cable was not pushed in all the way and then had a very blue tint. Rechecked all the cables and found one cable was loose.

Also go into all the setting for colors,etc. Out of box settings are set to "torch mode" which is horrible.

Turn off edge, black level...turn contrast to about 55%, set tint more toward red...there are SO many adjustments it's unbelievable.

How is you D*tv reciever's PQ? Even though it's s-vid....

mikelets456

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Register on line. Then call hitachi tech support and complain about the green. They will want all your info so to refgister again with them. Tell them to check your software version against the current one. They will then set up to send you one.
As for the green, I don't know what they will do.

What alpha leter is at the end of your model number, 51F710"?" a or s?

2therock

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Hello all, I have been lurking and learning... Now I pulled the trigger and brought home a 51f710 last night.

I have been having trouble with setup/choices.

Current setup: Sony DVD on Component, ANt in, DirectTV (RCA) on Svideo.

problems:

Watched DVD last night, VERY GREEN!!! on dim scenes bad, brighter sceens looked okay... the movie was Collateral, lots of night time scenes. When I played Nemo, picture was better. ?? was this the movie, the DVD player or TV settings?

Remote control does nothing but TV... the manual has very limited setup info for DVD and Sat setup.... none work.... I am not asking for much, just run my darn DirectTV and a basic Sony DVD... ?? Where are more codes? The manual says that if the remote won't work to check with the devices manual... how is that going to help? RCA/DirectTV has no idea what this remote is going to want for setup.... ?? Any help with remote functions please ??


I am getting the DISH HD package soon, I hope that helps me get some HD content. Right now I have a large UHF on tower, get a station thats about 35 miles away, PBS... otherwise, no HD yet for me... :-(



Software version on my set is V0100.0003 !!! I know this is old, saw in previous messages that Hitachi will send upgrade, version is up to "140" now... Does this jive ??

Anyway, sorry for the newbie questions. Any tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

yourflorida

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

The F59 specs show only 1080i not 1080p. Also, it is missing a few other features the F710A had. You need to download the Hitachi spec sheets for both to compare as I have. If I go strictly by the spec sheets I will buy the F710A. The 710 has 2 antenna inputs vs 1 (no biggy), SRS surround ( I have a surround system already). BBE sound enhancement, AV output with S-Video, Optical Digital output and more. If the F59 has all this, Hitachi is not showing it on their website. I have sent several messages to them and have not gotten a definitive answer. I do believe they have the best picture in the CRT projection tvs. I have a 20 yr old hitachi 19" tv that is still going great.

I hope this helps.

electro one

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClutchBrake
The Hitachi CRT RPTVs of recent years feature video conversion. They convert video to 540p or 1080i. Though the description of this feature/hardware was at one point called "VirtualHD 1080p Video Processor" it did NOT upconvert signals to 1080p. It, as with other models, converted to 540p or 1080i.

To the best of my knowledge no past or present (as of this date) Hitachi CRT RPTV upconverts to 1080p.

Thanks...that's what I figured. Becuse every manual says "resolution output" 540P/1080I. mine is compatible with 480I/540P/720P and 1080I...However, the set will ONLY OUTPUT 540P or 1080I. I don't know of any RP CRT sets that will enev output 720P, let alone 1080P.

mikelets456

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2therock
Software version #: Main V0136.0000. I called to ask and the newest version is in the 140's and will be sent to me.
I never checked to see if there was an update for my Software version. My TV's Software version is 0136 also...................Guess I better give them a call.

jones07

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

OK, I got the 51F710S. It was made in 4/05. Purchased 3/29/06 at CC Acworth GA, USA.
I have not performed a manual side by side exacting difference comparison but here are some things I can confirm.

My Warranty card has "HITACHI CANADA LTD DIGITAL MEDIA DIVISION" on the front and "NOT VALID IN USA" super-imposed across the back.
Just thumbing through I see there is a RS232c connection on the rear panel missing on the "A".

In the manual the front panel control page has the entire screen (Item 8) as the remote IR sensor and (Item 9) also, a small receiver spot on the front.

I have read of "a" versions not having a color management or color decoding available in the user menu. My "S" does. Actually it may be true for the F59 units. Looking for a confirmation?

The PIP descriptions and illustrations are different between the manuals. The PIP mode chart also is different I believe some of the features are different

Software version #: Main V0136.0000. I called to ask and the newest version is in the 140's and will be sent to me.

I had to give my info and the fact I am in the US did not get mentioned.

2therock

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Well now I don't feel so bad about missing out on the F715S as much if this is true!

I always thought it was funny to go from 1080P to 1080I on the next generation. Figured it was buggy not due to a bad description

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Well we now know the F59 does not have a 1080P Virtual Processor. So now im with mikelets456 what the heck does it do if it does not upconvert but "Obviously it works"?

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
Well we now know the F59 does not have a 1080P Virtual Processor. So now im with mikelets456 what the heck does it do if it does not upconvert but "Obviously it works"?
The Hitachi CRT RPTVs of recent years feature video conversion. They convert video to 540p or 1080i. Though the description of this feature/hardware was at one point called "VirtualHD 1080p Video Processor" it did NOT upconvert signals to 1080p. It, as with other models, converted to 540p or 1080i.

To the best of my knowledge no past or present (as of this date) Hitachi CRT RPTV upconverts to 1080p.

ClutchBrake

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I've heard that when using a cable box for SDTV that the component/DVI/HDMI output looks "bad" and that for SDTV you should use composite or S-video.

Don't know how true that is ...

FulciZombieFan

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
No it upconvert from 480I/1080I to 1080P. Since I was not in to HT as much as I am now we may have to ask a 715s person for the answer. I just don't know.
For the record, the 1080p Virtual Processor in the Hitachi CRT RPTVs does NOT upconvert to 1080p. It did not with the 715 and it does not through the F59. Don't know what, if any, future models will do.

I can't help but think calling it 1080p is anything but a lame attempt to make people think the TV displays 1080p. Obviously it works.

ClutchBrake

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
Did you calibrate the component hook up? I have all my hook ups via component, calibrated and they look amazing (HD does).

Also I use Input 4 for everything not that it should matter. I just like the auto turn on feature when a signal is detected.

Wonder if the component hook up is messing you up. Have you tried HDMI if available? I see you said straight cable but not HDMI.

Calibration comming in two weeks. Man! If the component is out of cal it is WAY out!
Just got the TV so I have no DVI (STB) to HDMI (TV) cable as of yet.
I guess when the calibrator comes I'll learn alot.

2therock

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Did you calibrate the component hook up? I have all my hook ups via component, calibrated and they look amazing (HD does).

Also I use Input 4 for everything not that it should matter. I just like the auto turn on feature when a signal is detected.

Wonder if the component hook up is messing you up. Have you tried HDMI if available? I see you said straight cable but not HDMI.

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

I'm very green so bear with me.
OK, I have a Sientific Atlanta "Explorer 8000HD" DVR STB.
I hook up the cable and go. Good SD reception and jaw dropping HD or digital.
Now I hook up the STB component r/b/g cables to input 1 on the tv, switch to it and yuk! Some kind of wierd geometric or overlay interference or just plain bad like a cable is crossed. It's hard to explain. I switched inputs into the TV.
Checked the cable connections for fit and color.
The TV is set to 1080i.
In the STB menu settings it has [set picture format] with a "Fixed, Pass Through, and a UpConvert-1 and a -2 as options. Where should I have it? I now have it on pass through.

What is up with the component feed looking bad?

2therock

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
Later down in the thread he said he had a 1080I. Only the F715's had the 1080P. Wish I had picked up one of those baby's years ago. Then again I did not know about 1080P back then
But it displays 1080I...correct? If so, then why the 1080P processor? Sorry...just curious.

mikelets456

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikelets456
But it displays 1080I...correct? If so, then why the 1080P processor? Sorry...just curious.
No it upconvert from 480I/1080I to 1080P. Since I was not in to HT as much as I am now we may have to ask a 715s person for the answer. I just don't know.

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
Ok I give and want some opinions on why 1080I looks better to me then 720P on this set?

HD Cable 720p vs 1080I, the 1080I looks crisper.

DVD same (LG 511). Sometimes I do notice artifacts (ok once) in 720p but none at 1080I.

I always thought that if you watch 720 p its refreshs the screen once for the Picture vs 1080I which does 540 twice.
There are so many factors that this could be a 10 page post, but I'll give a really quick version.

First off, as someone mentioned earlier, anything 1080I (filmed in 1080I and aired in 1080I) will look awsome...simple reason, no upconverting. Just passing through the signal...which is native to our RP CRT TV.

Second, 720P must be upconverted/converted by the box or TV and you *ALWAYS lose some kind of resolutuion in upconverting. *(sometimes minimal sometimes alot..depends on the processor). Therefore loss in "sharpness". Something interesting. When I watch "LOST" it looks pretty darn good(I believe 720P). However, it looked just as good or better when I watched/rented it on DVD.

Third and very important is how the video was captured. some shows are filmed in 480 format then upconverted to 1080I/720P. i can tell this RIGHT AWAY. especially if your looking for detail in trees and objects that are off in a distance. The detail just wont be there. Discovery HD does this on some of their nature shows and it's noticable. However, when you watch UHD and they air "worl report"...there are some incredible images.

There is so much more to this, but I wanted to give my brief findings.

mikelets456

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikelets456
I'm curious...what does that 1080P processor do? I'm assuming that it is not capable of projecting a 1080P picture? Especially being CRT RPTV. Someone please explain the reasoning if you can only display 1080I.

Later down in the thread he said he had a 1080I. Only the F715's had the 1080P. Wish I had picked up one of those baby's years ago. Then again I did not know about 1080P back then

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by jones07
The 51F710a does have VirtualHD 1080p processor. I have the 65F710a and it has the VirtualHD 540P/1080p processor.
I'm curious...what does that 1080P processor do? I'm assuming that it is not capable of projecting a 1080P picture? Especially being CRT RPTV. Someone please explain the reasoning if you can only display 1080I.

mikelets456

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

No problem Jones, just wondered if I'd gotten screwed LOL

kensai13

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by cozmo1
How do hook this up? I have the H20 receiver as well but I'm using just the HDMI cable. SD looks ok I guess. HD looks fantastic! How do I get the SD channels to look good?
I'm at work, so I am doing this by memory. In the H20 menu setup box go to "display" then "resolution". I set mine for native 480I/1080I. The PQ looks SO much better when the H20 sends the pic at 480I and let's the TV upconvert to 540P. make sure color temp is "Standard", edge 'off" ,"black off"...took me a while to get it where it looks good. Black levels are great. For example, if it's a dark scene and someone is wearing a black suit, you can see the detail in the suit...very cool. my old HDTV could not do this....my old set you would not see detail in the suit let alone figure out where the outline of the person's body was.

mikelets456

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kensai13
This is extraordinarily Bizzare. I just received my 65F710A and it only has 540p/1080I Virtual HD Processor

Sorry for the bad info. you are correct it's 1080i.......Not 1080P

jones07

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I guess we should call a service tech to find out if there is a significant difference.

2therock

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jones07
The 51F710a does have VirtualHD 1080p processor. I have the 65F710a and it has the VirtualHD 540P/1080p processor.

This is extraordinarily Bizzare. I just received my 65F710A and it only has 540p/1080I Virtual HD Processor

kensai13

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I have the 51" 16x9 WS 51F710A which I purchased from Circuit City about mid December 2005.

I sit about 6 - 7 feet away from it.

Image quality with most DVD discs are great. So far I'm just using a standard progressive scan DVD player ... no upconversion except for what the TV can do.

It does have a "Virtual HDTV" setting and the options are 540p or 1080i and I always use the 1080i setting.

There is also a FILM MODE or MOVIE MODE (I forgot now what it's called) which can be set to NONE or AUTO. The AUTO mode seems to work well for material with a standard film 3:2 pulldown pattern. With video stuff though it doesn't look "right" and you have to put it on NONE. If the DVD player is in PROGRESSIVE SCAN mode then the FILM/MOVIE MODE cannot be changed. If I am watching a DVD that I know and/or am pretty sure is encoded with PROGRESSIVE video then I set the DVD player into PROGRESSIVE SCAN mode. Otherwise I set the DVD player to INTERLACED output and muck around with the FILM/MOVIE MODE. Either way seems to work well.

HDTV channels look great through my cable (Comcast cable with the Motorola DCT 6412 III cable box) as well as OTA (the TV has a built-in OTA RF tuner input).

SDTV channels are another story. I actually think the analog channels look better than the digital channels only because the digital channels already have a lot of MPEG compression artifacts and once blown up to 51" 16x9 WS ... and sitting only 6 - 7 feet away ... it ain't so pretty.

Still though I am very happy with my purchase. For the same amount of money my other option was a 34" 16x9 WS Sony CRT Tube and while the Sony looked very nice I can't tell you what a thrill I got watching my first movie on a 51" 16x9 TV as the biggest TV I have ever owned prior was a 4:3 27" TV.

No 1080p but the cheapest TV with 1080p is way out of my price range.

FulciZombieFan

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The 51F710a does have VirtualHD 1080p processor. I have the 65F710a and it has the VirtualHD 540P/1080p processor.

jones07

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2therock
.... for now and discovered the following.

Gone are.
The 181 Channel NTSC Tuner.
Cable Card slot.
Auto Link Input Sensor.
TV as Center Channel.
Optical Digital Output.
AV Output with S-Video.
24 Watt Speaker System.
SRS Surround.
BBE Sound Enhancement.
It's 37 Pounds Lighter.
Thanks for the list

jones07

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Hmm come to think about it. Did they not remove the 1080p from the F710 while the S715 had it?

Wytchone

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ClutchBrake
I seem to recall someone suggesting different stores use different letters at the end in an attempt to avoid price-matching. I believe the example was CC putting "A" at the end and Sears using "S".

That information could be utterly false though.

I'm getting a 51F710s from CC tomorrow.
Somthing I do not understand?
Google "Hitachi 51F710s", and in another search Google the "Hitacjhi 51F710a".
On each you will see a Hitachi page result that takes you directly to the TV's page.

Look at the specs .pdf on both. The "s" mentions a VirtualHD 1080p processor. The "a" does not."

2therock

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Telco tech
Thanks. I played with the settings some and I rerouted the STB through the receiver on component, after reading one of Mr. Bob's posts on HDMI on this set.
It's been a while since I read everything in this post but the 710's don't have any HDMI issues. Or you referring to a better PQ via Component vs HDMI?

Wytchone

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Have to go with Banks333 here. I have my contrast set to 40% but brightness 51 % if i remember correctly. I use component vs HDMI so YMMV.

Make sure to use the day and night modes. Day for me is mostly TV watching, Night is for Movie watching. Always remember you can up the brightness for a movie if needed and lower it later.

Also make sure to get get the Aria DVD and configure each output! I take it you are using HDMI and Component? Most likey they will each have different settings.

Cheers and welcome to the club!

PS
Get the topshelf, easy to install and worth the extra room.

Wytchone

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Banks333
Your brightness and contrast are just too low for some shows. That being compounded with the fact that many HD boxes tend to have muddled blacks.

Use the day/night settings to give the best picture at each exteme of viewing. For example your current settings may be fine when watching a B-Ball game. But, may be completely dark when watching CSI.

All analog SD will look terrible. But, In my opinion the digital SD looks good on this TV. And HD looks excellent.

Remember the source(STB) plays a huge role in the PQ. If you were to hook up a HD-DVD or BluRay player I bet you would be blown away!

Trust me you made a good choice in TVs. Stick with CRT!
Thanks. I played with the settings some and I rerouted the STB through the receiver on component, after reading one of Mr. Bob's posts on HDMI on this set. The digital SD still looks like crap, but maybe that will change when I run the Avia DVD. I tried to do the 9-point adjustments but I didn't understand what I was doing, so I stopped until I do more research.

HD is amazing! Unfortunately, 90% of the Comcast programming here is SD. I don't know how many OTA HD are available, but I am excited to find out.

Telco tech

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Your brightness and contrast are just too low for some shows. That being compounded with the fact that many HD boxes tend to have muddled blacks.

Use the day/night settings to give the best picture at each exteme of viewing. For example your current settings may be fine when watching a B-Ball game. But, may be completely dark when watching CSI.

All analog SD will look terrible. But, In my opinion the digital SD looks good on this TV. And HD looks excellent.

Remember the source(STB) plays a huge role in the PQ. If you were to hook up a HD-DVD or BluRay player I bet you would be blown away!

Trust me you made a good choice in TVs. Stick with CRT!

Banks333

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
Settings are
Contrast 30%
Brightness 53%
Color 40%
Tint default
Sharpness 30%
Color Standard
Black level Low
EE Middle
Ill give this a shot.. is your picture setting on day or night?

thrill5one6

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your settings look too dark for me, i mainly watch sports if that makes a difference

thrill5one6

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i just ordered the avia calibration dvd, hopefully that will improve my picture

thrill5one6

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Ok guys, I too have been lurking and learning. My 51F710a from UCEweb, arrived today.

The out-of-the-box settings had the contrast at 100%, brightness at 70%, and sharpness at 100%. I turned it down to contrast=43%, bright=40%, sharp=50%.

I hooked it up as follows:
Motorola digital DVR STB video=DVI to HDMI to tv, audio=optical out to Onkyo TX-SR797 opt in 1

Onkyo DV-CP701 6 disk DVD carousel video to component in 1 on receiver, audio to optical in 2

Receiver from component out to 51F710a component input 3. I tried to use the tv speaker as center channel via rca cable from pre-out center to mono input 2. It sounded low and tinny, just horrible!

I guess I'll have to get the Hitachi shelf and use my DCM KX-Center or get Onkyo SKS-HT240 or get DCM Cinmea 2

The picture is really dark during the original Matrix DVD (420p). Cable programming for both std and digital cable is dark, grainey, and not as beautiful as I thought it would be from what I read in these forums. I don't have an OTA antenna yet (it will have to be indoor, as I'm in an apartment) and I haven't changed any other settings. I have the Avia DVD, I didn't have time to run it before i went to work.

Any other advise on how to beautify my PQ, so that I can be as happy as most of you other Hitachi RP CRT owners? Thanks

Telco tech

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Looks about right, I will check my setting when I get home.
Off the top of my head
Contrast 38%
Brightness 56%
Color 50
Tint 50
Sharpeness dunno
Color temp standard
BE middle (hey it works for me)

Wytchone

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
Looks about right, I will check my setting when I get home.
Off the top of my head
Contrast 38%
Brightness 56%
Color 50
Tint 50
Sharpeness dunno
Color temp standard
BE middle (hey it works for me)
Settings are
Contrast 30%
Brightness 53%
Color 40%
Tint default
Sharpness 30%
Color Standard
Black level Low
EE Middle

Wytchone

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
Hmm I plan only using HDMI when I get a HD DVD player when they are cheaper and start up faster. As of now im running every thing via component and I have no issues with PQ. HD Cable is amazing (see Sig) just need to better camera or photo skills to show it off.
SD is find on digital cables, less so on the pure analog one.

On your Direct TV have you set your out put to 1080I? I know on a Cable box you can set it from 480I to 1080I, since I don't have Direct TV I don't know if thats preset for you or not.

Also did you configure you input for HDMI?
Have you lowered your Contrast and brightness?
What are your settings?
My Direct Tv DVR is set to 1080i and my TV setting are:
picture mode night
contrast 50
brightness 56
color 60
tint 3 clicks to the right
sharpness 55
color temp standard
black enhancement low edge enhancement middle
Any suggestions on improving picture quality?

thrill5one6

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Just had a cablecard installed in my 57f710a, HD cable channels at 1080i look fantastic and the digital channels at 480i are surprisingly clear and sharp.Only complaint is the slow tuner response.

vcrpro3

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Banks333
I have the 57F710a and my set is silver.

I've never been clear what the letters at the end meen. Does anyone else know?

Seems it does not matter.
found here in the F59 thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...33#post8571733

Jones07
eff.org warrior


Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Phila Pa.
Posts: 4,032 Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamtheater360
HH Gregg Rant!
The Circuit City in my area had the 65F59A and the one at HH Gregg was the 65F59 and he said they couldn't price match since it didn't have the "A" on the end. Is there any difference in the 2 tvs? I looked online and couldn't find anything.
.



No difference whatsoever. It's a way for local stores to get around price matching.

Wytchone

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My HD picture isnt too impressive on my 57f710a and im using the HDMI cable with the Direct Tv. i dont know what i can do also there is a popping noise occasionally. Any ideas?

thrill5one6

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Hmm I plan only using HDMI when I get a HD DVD player when they are cheaper and start up faster. As of now im running every thing via component and I have no issues with PQ. HD Cable is amazing (see Sig) just need to better camera or photo skills to show it off.
SD is find on digital cables, less so on the pure analog one.

On your Direct TV have you set your out put to 1080I? I know on a Cable box you can set it from 480I to 1080I, since I don't have Direct TV I don't know if thats preset for you or not.

Also did you configure you input for HDMI?
Have you lowered your Contrast and brightness?
What are your settings?

Wytchone

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wytchone
No the letter is normally for the color. A for Ash, S for Silver (I think). What color is your set?

Drop you contrast to 50% or below, Brightness to 60% or less , Use Avia to calibrate and its golden. Check my sig for the player I use if you want a good DVD player that upconverts via Component. If you use HDMI any of the 75 to 100 will do you fine.

Welcome to the club.
I have the 57F710a and my set is silver.

I've never been clear what the letters at the end meen. Does anyone else know?

Banks333

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So far I love this tv! Has anyone had their tv ISF calibrated yet? I've been thinking about having it done, but I'm not sure yet.

cozmo1

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Quote:
Originally Posted by cozmo1
So far I love this tv! Has anyone had their tv ISF calibrated yet? I've been thinking about having it done, but I'm not sure yet.
Im want to know this also. Was told by one ISF tech its a waste of time and my money but he would do it. Another that it would make it better but due to limited work force (Hurricane Katrina) they wont be able to do it anytime soon.

Wytchone

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pjtech
I purchased a 65F710A but recd a 65F710, is there a diff?
THX!

No the letter is normally for the color. A for Ash, S for Silver (I think). What color is your set?

Drop you contrast to 50% or below, Brightness to 60% or less , Use Avia to calibrate and its golden. Check my sig for the player I use if you want a good DVD player that upconverts via Component. If you use HDMI any of the 75 to 100 will do you fine.

Welcome to the club.

Wytchone

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I purchased a 65F710A but recd a 65F710, is there a diff?
THX!

pjtech

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GF's dad just brought home a 51f710e and I am the goto guy for all technology. The OTA HD channels look great, DVD's and X360 look great. Standard cable looks like crap, very grainy look to everything. Also solid red(words especially) look jittery in all inputs. What can I do about that. Finally what is up with the PIP only being able to show two different sources....isn't the point of PIP to show 2 channels at the same time (commercial screening).

jugger18

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Quote:
Originally Posted by yourflorida
Hello all, I have been lurking and learning... Now I pulled the trigger and brought home a 51f710 last night.

I have been having trouble with setup/choices.

Current setup: Sony DVD on Component, ANt in, DirectTV (RCA) on Svideo.

problems:

Watched DVD last night, VERY GREEN!!! on dim scenes bad, brighter sceens looked okay... the movie was Collateral, lots of night time scenes. When I played Nemo, picture was better. ?? was this the movie, the DVD player or TV settings?

Remote control does nothing but TV... the manual has very limited setup info for DVD and Sat setup.... none work.... I am not asking for much, just run my darn DirectTV and a basic Sony DVD... ?? Where are more codes? The manual says that if the remote won't work to check with the devices manual... how is that going to help? RCA/DirectTV has no idea what this remote is going to want for setup.... ?? Any help with remote functions please ??


I am getting the DISH HD package soon, I hope that helps me get some HD content. Right now I have a large UHF on tower, get a station thats about 35 miles away, PBS... otherwise, no HD yet for me... :-(



Software version on my set is V0100.0003 !!! I know this is old, saw in previous messages that Hitachi will send upgrade, version is up to "140" now... Does this jive ??

Anyway, sorry for the newbie questions. Any tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Update.....

The "green" problem is still here, Hitachi had me contact a service shop that told me they will not fix in home and that the "drive time" is too great, won't be free. This is NOT good... went back to Rex's Video and spoke with them. They were very helpful and faxed my purchase info to a shop they use. That shop setup an appt. for next day and tech was ON TIME! He was very nice and seems to have pinpointed the problem, it is a device right near the front panel that has 6 adjusters (pots) for tech adjustments. When he touched the "green intensity" knob the problem appeared. The are going to get the part and replace it.

So.... Hitachi Corp. FAILED so far, they don't even know who to send me to... Rex's Video is helpful, the repair shop (I will get the name) seems very helpful, the tech seems great. Will report back when this is fixed.

On the other item about the labels reseting... that was me, I had hit the setting for "reset on power on" thinking it would do it once... resets everything EVERYTIME power on... fixed that.

yourflorida

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I am new owner of 65F710. Could someone tell me why this is happening.

After I switch the input to "Input 4" which is my DVD, my selection for Aspect ratio does not show 16:9. It gives all the other options, but 16:9, why is that ?

When my Input is "Input 3" which is my digital Cable box/with HD programming, then the Aspect ration choices list all including 16:9.

Can anyone please tell me if I am doing something wrong ?

thanks in advance.

kivi26

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Update your Current setup link.

jones07

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I have noticed a few 540P DVD palyers...Will my Hitachi RP CRT play 540P native? (will the signal pass through?)

mikelets456

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Gentlemen, fret not on the TV but on me. I am disappointed in the TV because I knew not what the deal is. The Hitachi is a great tv. The user has been educated.
Here is what happened.
I get a divorce and let the Hitachi 4.3:1 go with her. Great I'll upgrade.
The 2001 year model Hitachi was HD "READY". As being built mainly to show Standard Definition. It did this very well. So well it spoiled me to the point when I got the 51F710s home it just SUCKED compared to the old one on SD.
I would like to add that the tv looked better when the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8000 DVR box was bypassed and the TV's tuner was used alone.
So it went back to CC until HD is 75% or more of programming content.
I am presently looking for old RP TV's to get back to where I was. They are being offered at around 500.00 or less for local pickup and I'm sure I'll have one soon. Then most SD TV will look good and HD will look good too.

Programming prices are getting really insulting. I remember when the selling point was "Commercial Free". Now we pay to see commercials the providers are getting paid to show. I will continue to be a stubborn old fart and just wait untill I can rent it or it comes up on basic cable.

Later, thanks for all the contributions and help.

2therock

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S-video from old RCA DirectTV is very good... better than I expected.

Daughter (and I.. I must confess) are watching Toy Story on DVD... GREAT PICTURE>..... wow...

I haven't even tried to see if there are any settings on the player to mess with...

On the subject of settings, DAY and NIGHT, if I choose DAY then tweek settings do they become the DAY settings for that input?

Climbed the ant. tower (won't lower anymore) and tweaked the ant... Now I get ABC in HD, and PBS... one thing at a time!!!

Found out the problem on the remote.... batteries... The junk they ship with were replaced and TADAaaaa... now all is well with remote...

??? should I pursue the software upgrade from v0100.0003 ???

Also, 5 minutes ago the "input labels" that I had assigned were GONE.... I kid you not... all back to defaults!!! only thing we did was turn off TV for lunch.... WHATS UP WITH THAT!?!?

yourflorida

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

"On the subject of settings, DAY and NIGHT, if I choose DAY then tweek settings do they become the DAY settings for that input? "

Yes.

No idea on why your input labels reset.

Wytchone

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Well after more than a week I just do not like the Hitachi 51F710s. I have tried everything. With the STB and without. Had a tech check my signal and it is excellent. The PQ is just not up to par with my old 2001 year model Ultravision 53" 4.3:1. Maybe it is this particular unit.
The focus is way out. It hurts to view it. HD is clearer but just not as sharp as it should be. And yes I have done the usual things associated with it. If I do get a good pic it is only in one spot. Never is the whole viewing area acceptable. NEVER.
She is going back to CC. I'm not going to chance the return with a fight to figure it out.

What to do? I need a TV. Other than the above it is kind of big for my living space. So I guess I'll look in the 40" range this time.

What do you guys know of a TV of this size with a digital tuner that is known for it's ability to look real good in standard definition?

2therock

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Color me shocked. You found a brand new 710 in store this year in June?
Well either or grats on your purchase and at a sweet price no less.

Wytchone

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I was looking to buy a microdisplay RP leaning toward Jvc lcos. I went into
my local circuit city in june and saw a 51f 710a on display. The picture was
stunning! i questioned the circuit city rep and he said the set was brand new.
it had been sitting in the backroom boxed up and had just been put out. It was on sale for $680. I had not been following the crt threads and i was going out of
town the next day so i did not pull the trigger. Of course when I got back after
doing my research it had been sold. Boy was i kicking myself. I decided the next
deal i come across for a hitachi i am pulling the trigger. I found some sites to
lurk on for new and refurb hitachis.www.parkavelectronics has new hitachis in stock but is pricey. www. refurbelectronics has a bunch of hitachis in stock as
did Uec web. which is where i scored the deal of the year. They advertised a hot deal a 57f710 for $519. I emailed them to find out what the model year was
They emailed me back and said it was a 2005 model and also the tv was BRAND
NEW NOT A REFURB! Can you say Sold. I received the tv on Sept 6 and it is
perfect. Will run Avia and Dve this week. What is the code to get to the service menu. I have Directv HR20 via HDMI no issues and Sony DVD player
component. SD looks good. Thanks

askewdavid

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What video card are you using? Settings. Does your video card have HDMI out or are you using a DVI to HDMI cable?

vcrpro3

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I am using the GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H which has HDMI and GPU onboard.

Setting im using 1080I optimized which is 1770X1000@30 mhz. 1920x1080 works but moves the icons off screen. While not really a issue for me, my wife is not used to working without icons so using that.

System is rated to play 1080p and has been stable for a month now. I am sending sound via spdif to my 7.1 receiver.

Specs are as follows:
AMD64 4600+ x2 (65w)
GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H (x1250 raedon series)
A-DATA 2GB (2 x 1GB) Ram
Lite-on DVD R/W
XP SP2
320 and 120 gig hard drives
HDMI connection
PS 420W
BTC 9019URFIII Wireless keyboard with built in thumbstick joystick mouse.
CASE NMEDIAPC|HTPC 300BA
Wireless card

Wytchone

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Jones07,

I'm so sorry to hear about your father. I hope that you and your family are doing ok.

I'm glad to hear about your TV working out for you. I hope that I'll never have to use my EW, but if I do, your story made me feel more at ease about the whole situation.

jasonlc3221

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Just a FYI for those who may not be using HDMI on the F710's.

I built a HTPC connecting to my F710 via HDMI. So far (1 month) no HDMI shift, and the PQ as always is stunning.

So if anyone was like me and was hesitant to use HDMI due to shift issues, don't be.

Cheers

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Thanks for the update jone07.

Sorry to hear about your dad. May he R.I.P.

Wytchone

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Hey guys

Sorry for taking so long to update you on how Hitachi's Extended Warranty worked out for me. But less then half an hour after I made that post I was notified by my bother that out dad just died ( strange that I woke up at 3:25 AM, and could not get back to sleep, that never happens to me, hummmm) So up til now I was not in the mood to revisit this post an that period in my life...... But life moves on.

Notified Hitachi's Extended Warranty CSR of my problem with my 65F710A about noon Monday the 7th. Hitachi's Extended Warranty plan picks the repair service for you. You have no say in who they pick. (was not happy about that) I asked because I know a Hitachi authorized repair shop 15 minutes away that I used in the past and trust. Anyway, on the 8th the repair shop calls wife and set up a date for the next day around 2 PM to look at the 65F710A. Problem was the power button/IR circuit board. He rigged the TV so we could use the AC cord to turn on and off by unplugging it while he waited on the replacement part.

Took about 8 days for him to get the part and come back over and install it. He said If I did not have the EW, labor and part would have cost me $275 before tax. Hitachi's Extended Warranty people called about a week later and ask if the TV was fixed and if I was satisfied............ I was, for once a Extended Warranty worked out for me.

jones07

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BTW: Just to clarify for all of you that were wondering about the "S" and the "A" at the end of the model number.........It has nothing to do with color of the TV itself..........The F710S has two NTSC tuners for complete PIP, plus an ATSC tuner for the HD content. The F710A has only ONE NTSC tuner, plus the ATSC tuner for HD content.

With the F710S, you can either watch two SD channels at once or one SD and one HD channels at once, but not two HD channels at once.

With the F710A, you can only watch one SD and one HD channel at once. You cannot watch two SD channels at once, nor can you watch two HD channels at once.

As for the "A" and the "S", the only other difference I found is that the "S" has a RS-232C Control Interface (what ever the hell that is, I've never heard of it) and the "A" does not.

Also, the FULL SPECS sheet lists the "S" as Energy Star Compliant, but the "A" does not. This is not true, because my model is the F710A and it has the Energy Star logo on the front, and I believe it says it in the manual as well. Just wanted to let you all know what I found.

jasonlc3221

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Hmm do keep us informed, im curious to see how it's get handled.

Wytchone

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

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Originally Posted by jones07
Well my 14 month old Hitachi 65F710A died this morning. 3:35 this AM could not sleep decided to watch some TV. TV came on like normal then turned itself off with the power button flashing red. Never seeing this before, I turned it off waited 30 seconds and tried again...........same thing, comes on shows a picture for 5-6 seconds then turned itself off with the power button flashing red. unplug from wall let set for a few hours, but same problem

I'm kind of pissed being just 2 months out of warranty and having a lightly used TV go OOS. But lucky for me, I bought a very expensive 4 year Extended Warranty with all the bells and whistles through Hitachi themselves. As luck would have it my TV breaks on a week-end and Hitachi's EW only have week days hours. After reading some horror stories about warranty work and long long waits for service I will post my experience with Hitachi EW's.

Side story: (I been a big 2nd generation anti- Extended Warranty guy all my life) but after being burned with a $2500 repair bill on a 18 month old DLP, I decided to get a EW for the replacement of the DLP that I refused get fixed at $2.5K. Hopefully I will get most of my $400 EW back from Hitachi with this repair.
Hi Jones, I'm new to this forum, but I've read this entire thread and funny thing is that this thread started just a couple weeks before I bought my HItachi 57F710. I've been very pleased with the TV so far. I was just wondering how your issue with getting your 65" is going. Let us know

jasonlc3221

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

Well my 14 month old Hitachi 65F710A died this morning. 3:35 this AM could not sleep decided to watch some TV. TV came on like normal then turned itself off with the power button flashing red. Never seeing this before, I turned it off waited 30 seconds and tried again...........same thing, comes on shows a picture for 5-6 seconds then turned itself off with the power button flashing red. unplug from wall let set for a few hours, but same problem

I'm kind of pissed being just 2 months out of warranty and having a lightly used TV go OOS. But lucky for me, I bought a very expensive 4 year Extended Warranty with all the bells and whistles through Hitachi themselves. As luck would have it my TV breaks on a week-end and Hitachi's EW only have week days hours. After reading some horror stories about warranty work and long long waits for service I will post my experience with Hitachi EW's.

Side story: (I been a big 2nd generation anti- Extended Warranty guy all my life) but after being burned with a $2500 repair bill on a 18 month old DLP, I decided to get a EW for the replacement of the DLP that I refused get fixed at $2.5K. Hopefully I will get most of my $400 EW back from Hitachi with this repair.

jones07

Hitachi 65F710A 57F710A 51F710A Projections

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Originally Posted by lee1736
I bought the unit from Sears a few months back. I got Disnetwork with HD programing connected wit a HDMI cable on input 1. The problem is color shifts, washed out colors, green color on full screen and a few other things. Each incident last approx. 35 seconds the goes back to normal. This is the second set. The first one did the same thing. Hitachi said firmware problem. Sears is jerking me around on service. Anyone else have this problem and had it resolved?
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Originally Posted by Wytchone
Hmm this is the first I heard (or remember) that the F710A has had problems with the HDMI. The F759 sure but not the 710's. Hope you find a solution
Another case of needing to continue bugging Hitachi about it. Contact them via email @ their website or call 1-800-HITACHI and let them know what's up and that you know it's similar to the same problem they recently addressed for the F59 series, which was software, not firmware, related.

Don't know if the F59 HDMI software fix (in the service menu E2PROM selection) is even compatable/possible for the F710s, despite the 2 series' major similarities. But I'd imagine the solution is similar, considering that the symptoms are the same.

Recently saw a post on these boards from a Sony LCD owner who was having the exact same HDMI "freakouts" and posted pics of it. This HDMI problems are NOT exclusive to Hitachi TVs. As I've always thought, these issues likely stem from digital copy protect functions found in HDMI that don't always "handshake" properly btwn some gear.

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