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Question Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews ( AVS Forum Plasma Flat Panel Displays )
Updated: 2008-06-16 03:22:12 (5339)
Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

I saw the new Samsung plasmas, HP-S5053 and HP-S4253, today at my local Fry's and they look amazing. The picture is detailed, the finish is nice (piano black), and they ae not as expensive as I thought they would be (may be due to lack of cable card and IEEE 1394 inputs).
Has anyone esle seen one OR OWN one and have a review? MSRP?
Specs: (missing is firewire and cable card)
? New Samsung Gen-5 panel
- 10,000:1 contrast ratio
- 1,300 cd/m2 brightness
? 60,000 hour panel life* (27 years @ 6 hours/day)
? 1366(H) x 768(V) pixel resolution
? 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio
? Built-in HDTV tuner (NTSC/ATSC)
? 13-bit processing (549 billion colors)
? Split screen & picture in picture
? Samsung DNIe? (Digital Natural Image engine)
? 175?(H/V) viewing angle
? 3D Y/C digital comb filter
? Auto pixel shift (burn in resistance)
? TrueWide design with hidden speaker
? FilterBright? anti-glare filter
? Power save feature
A u d i o
? 10-watt per channel built-in audio amplifier
? Built-in 1-way, 2-speaker system
? SRS TruSurround XT?
Rear A/V connections
? 2 HDMI ? High Definition Multimedia Interface
? 2 component video inputs (Y,Pb,Pr)
? S-Video and composite video input
? PC (RGB) input
Side A/V connections
? S-Video and composite video input
? Headphone jack

Answers: Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews ( AVS Forum Plasma Flat Panel Displays )
Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

I am just starting to look for a new TV and the Samsung seems to do what I need. I now have a Mitsubishi 55" rear projection that is just to big, the entire box not the screen. Haven't decided between plasma or LCD yet but what is the difference between the 5053 and the 5073. I have seen the 53 but haven't seen the 73 so have no clue and I am not very literate on video so most terms mean little to me. Most viewing is DSL and broadcast with occational DVD and some VCR so I aknow I am behind the times but want to upgrade.
Plasma seems to require more fiddle than LCD, with burn in and changing settings or am I just not understanding

skud

skudrunner

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Can anyone tell me if the "Smooth Motion Driver" feature that the latest Samsung's for the european market (PS-50P7H) have is for PAL signals only? I am ready to buy a 5073, but I am hesitant as I see no mention of this SMD feature for this, or any other US market Samsung plasma TV model.

Thanks for any help,
Dan

danand

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clepto
Depends on the deinterlacing/scaling of the player vs the display... Especially since the display is doing some re-scaling for the vast majority of DVD players anyway.
So if I am using a relatively cheap Philips Progressive Scan HTB to send signal to my Samsung EDTV should I turn off the Progressive Scan on the HTB and let the TV do all the work? BTW I am using component connections. Is there any accurate way to test what works best rather than eyeballing it?

Movie Fan

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Does anyone see image retention with their samsungs? Curious if samsungs pixel shift feature really works.

Zues

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

As of today I am now a proud owner of the HP-s4273. BB is having a sale that is not mention on its web site. The price thats advertise on their site is good, but when I went to the store it was better. It got a whole lot better after I mention Im an employee.

Magnolia039, have you seen the price drop for the 4273. last month it was $xxxx, this month it dropped an extra $xxx for employees.

I went to Danbury, conn. to pick up, it was the only one they had, that just came in, so there was no floor model yet.

Those folks thats looking to buy, if you dont see them out on display yet, then you must ask. Chances are it may be in the warehouse as a new arrival. To make the search much easier you can call or walk in and ask for the availabilty on SKU#7908561.

I have to work today and tonight, so I guess I wont get to set it up till Saturday morning

vince227

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by vince227
As of today I am now a proud owner of the HP-s4273. BB is having a sale that is not mention on its web site. The price thats advertise on their site is good, but when I went to the store it was better. It got a whole lot better after I mention Im an employee.

Magnolia039, have you seen the price drop for the 4273. last month it was $xxxx, this month it dropped an extra $xxx for employees.

I went to Danbury, conn. to pick up, it was the only one they had, that just came in, so there was no floor model yet.

Those folks thats looking to buy, if you dont see them out on display yet, then you must ask. Chances are it may be in the warehouse as a new arrival. To make the search much easier you can call or walk in and ask for the availabilty on SKU#7908561.

I have to work today and tonight, so I guess I wont get to set it up till Saturday morning
I haven't checked he employee price lately on the 73. when I looked it up the first time it was about 150 over the 53 for us. I did see that the 4253 and the 5053 both dropped in MSRP and that is why they are both on sale for what seems to be a new low price and it is but caused by a reduction in what bb pays for them.

I find that interesting that they didn't have it out on display. We have a 42 and a 50 on display in our magnolia room and have had no issues ordering them for customers. Odd. I was looking at some new models that we are gonna carry and there is a hitachi coming with a 16 bit color processor that does several hundred trillion colors. that should be interesting.

Magnolia039

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

What Hitachi would that be?

Gruntenstein

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gruntenstein
What Hitachi would that be?
All on this page.

http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/plas...a/plasma.shtml

Magnolia will carry.

http://www.hitachi.us/tv/browse/plas.../55hdx99.shtml

Magnolia039

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

I've had my samsung 5053 for a week now. Its AWESOME!! I have it hooked up with HD cable and a dvd upconvert using HDMI cables. Picture clarity is unbelievable. I can't go back to analog or non-hd channels anymore. I find myself watching crap i would never watch just because its in HD and I feel like i'm part of the show.

Downsides: loud buzzing sound. Samsung says its normal. Can't hear it when you have sound on. Certain areas that are black look shadowy and unclear. Probably just a setting. all settings are still out of the box.

Bought it for less than 3k at circuit city internet site with FREE shipping.

DON'T HESITATE, GO OUT AND GET THIS ONE!!!!

knickfan67

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

why does everyone give the pan 50" such good reviews, consumer reports, cnet, etc...but consumer reports doesn't even rate the samsung and cnet gave it like a 6.5, saying the picture was so so?

i've seen both in the store and i think the samsung looks great, the 53 that is, the black look of it and the pq are awesome.

anyone have any opinions on the panasonic 50" vs. the samsung 50" (53)?

i don't really know what to think of half of these reviews...

miked33

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Someone here stated that they have a buzzing sound and a tinted color on their new purchase 4273.

I have not one sound or color issue with this TV, maybe you might want to exchange yours. My firmware is SD01, which should be the only firmware at this time and my factory date is August 2006.

I only hear sound if I place my ear on top of the ventilation holes. Thats how silent it is.

vince227

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by miked33
why does everyone give the pan 50" such good reviews, consumer reports, cnet, etc...but consumer reports doesn't even rate the samsung and cnet gave it like a 6.5, saying the picture was so so?

i've seen both in the store and i think the samsung looks great, the 53 that is, the black look of it and the pq are awesome.

anyone have any opinions on the panasonic 50" vs. the samsung 50" (53)?

i don't really know what to think of half of these reviews...
Because there pockets are lined with Panasonic's gold.You can't get free Plasma's to review by bashing the product.I looked at both side by side at Sams connected to component out & couldn't tell any difference cept in price of course.Yeah yeah...in-store reviews is not where you want to base your judgement but I use component out for my 360 & if it looks blurry on the set it'll be worse with the 360 connected to it,like the Maxent5020 I had taken back.

E-Coli

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia039
The hps5033 plasma display is very similar to the 5053 in many ways but no filter bright screen to cut down on the amount of ambient light reflected out of the plasma from the rooms light. Different speaker configuration (not hidden speakers), and I believe it is lacking the "game mode".
Most features are the same.
It does not lack the game mode,I use that sucker I know Both are Identical cept for style & the anti glare filter.

E-Coli

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by HDTVRookie
I'm wondering if this is the same exact same thing as the samsung 5053?
They are the same cept for the style & the anti glare filter.I do like the look of the 53 but I went with the 33 at Sams because of there return policy.

E-Coli

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by miked33
why does everyone give the pan 50" such good reviews, consumer reports, cnet, etc...but consumer reports doesn't even rate the samsung and cnet gave it like a 6.5, saying the picture was so so?

i've seen both in the store and i think the samsung looks great, the 53 that is, the black look of it and the pq are awesome.

anyone have any opinions on the panasonic 50" vs. the samsung 50" (53)?

i don't really know what to think of half of these reviews...
I had it down to these two sets, and I thought the picture on the samsung was better. The fleshtones on the panasonic were bad, people had clayface. The Samsung was much better. Plus the silver cabinet on the Panasonic sucks the Samsung was the clear winner IMHO.

dfranch

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

I've had the HP-S4253 for less than 24 hours and already have the CBS eye logo burnt into the upper right hand corner the screen! I followed all the precautions- turn down contrast, don't leave stationary objects on the screen.

I'm assuming this TV is defective and a normal plasma would not burn-in after the wife watches less than 45 mins-1 hour of CBS tennis. Still, I think I would feel for comfortable getting the Samsung 40'' LCD when I return the plasma.

Wanderer1

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanderer1
I've had the HP-S4253 for less than 24 hours and already have the CBS eye logo burnt into the upper right hand corner the screen! I followed all the precautions- turn down contrast, don't leave stationary objects on the screen.

I'm assuming this TV is defective and a normal plasma would not burn-in after the wife watches less than 45 mins-1 hour of CBS tennis. Still, I think I would feel for comfortable getting the Samsung 40'' LCD when I return the plasma.
Are you sure its burnt in,or is it screen retention.Brand new plasma's have high screen retention/burn-in which is why you need to break it in,as the panel age's it has less screen retention/burn-in.

E-Coli

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Well I've tried the white screen and screen wipe for over a couple hours and the burnt in logo is still there. Turned the TV off a hour, then back on hoping it would be gone, but it is still there.

Wanderer1

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

I work at Circuit City and I can score a new 4253 for $1300 with samsung accomidation.

predator4325

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by RicheyPoor
Westa,
Meanwhile, Samsung's failure rate was worse than ANY Japanese brand I can think of. Goldstar (now LG) was just as bad for dependability but usually exhibited better performance than the equivalent Samsung product. Every year the Samsung rep would show us their new line and proudly proclaim that "This was the year Samsung was going to get it right". Funny thing is that they were famous for 'simple' design flaws that would hurt performance as well as dependability. That can't help but bring to mind DNIE and their BluRay player fiasco that could kill a format backed by the biggest names in the business and must make Toshiba's CEO want to kiss them full-on-the-lips. Before I drop 2-5k on a product made by Samsung or LG, I'll need a lot more convincing that they finally 'got it right'.
You make some very valid points if in fact what is in the past is repeated and I've observed improvements the past two years in Product performance and Customer Support. If you want to nitpick a Quality Company going backwards it's SOny and the SXRD Green Issues have been going on nearly a year and now I'm seeing optical block issues being reported on the XBR2's with some new owners. I'm a fan of SXRD but they need to get the Quality at the level of the Qualia 006.

DNIE is defeatable now if one chooses. How long would they have to perform to change your mind or is it stuck in tunnelvision of the past? Samsung innovates and sometimes to quickly but they force competition which is a good thing.

At some point shouldn't they get credit for doing something right? After all they pretty much lead in profit margin and if there quality was so bad that would impact that bottom line and they recently displaced Philips over in Europe on their own territory with LCD's. I prefer to have an open mind and acknowledge innovators and Samsung is building just about everything but LCos and building rebadged systems for many resellers. Sony owes their LCD Success to the Joint partnership that Samsung is 50/50 PLUS One Share to Samsung - Sony was losing money in a huge way and they observed the huge profits of Samsung and now they both profit from that Patent Sharing. Do they get credit for this? Both have made advances in PQ and performance and value. BTW I own the HD DVD and love the picture it presents but lets be honest it is buggy as hell also to get it going without HDMI and audio conflicts and a remote that is the worst I've ever seen but I agree with what it puts on the screen once you get past it's bugginess.

Some valid points but lets give some credit where innovation has taken place or improved customer services/support. At least they aren't piece mealing their PDP like Panny and it's 1080P 65" - they provide you the whole package - they don't sell the stand and speakers separate. How doe sPanny take a Consumer Model and Ala Carte the thing?

westa6969

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Well it's been over a week since I returned my 2nd buzzer 5053 from J&R, and purchased the LN-S4695D. Well i finally received my 46in LCD on Tuesday Oct 10th. After carefully inspecting it over the course of an hour i have found 2 stuck(green) pixels 1 in the upper left corner and 1 on the bottom right of the screen. This however is no bother as there are over 2 million pixels on this screen(1080P) and to be honest i only noticed then after i has my face 6 inches from the screen to search every part of the screen. They are so tiny that at over 1 foot away they are not visible at all, and i sit about 10ft away. I actually had trouble finding them every time i went back to check.

Well after almost a week i can say i am very satisfied with this set. Although it may not produce those beautiful blacks the 5053 had, the colors are very vivid. Plus know i don't have to worry about that damn burn in or be bothered by glare. I currently have this set connected to my Sammy DVD-HD960 up-converter DVD player. Let me tell you guys this picture is a sight to behold , I was watching Star Wars Ep.III (my HDTV reference disk) , The Fast and The Furious 3(night movie) , Underworld Evolution(very dark scenes) , X-Men 3 , after watching these movies I have no regrets about my choice. Blacks are detailed , viewing angle is excellent , TV weighs 30lbs less , sucks over 200 watts less power and has 2x the resolution. I recommend this set for all disgruntled 5053 owners , it is truly a worthy replacement/Alternative.

P.S. I almost pulled the trigger on the Pio 5070 but it was $600 more then the 4695D and $900 more then what i paid for the 5053. I will say this is the best Flat Panel in the market , but logic finally kicked in and told me that 4 inches and a great 720P picture was not worth the extra $600 and headaches that come with owning a plasma. also I will add that the LN-S4692D(720P, my original choice) is also a superb set and had i not already spent so much money on the 5053 i would have picked this set instead. If ur gonna go LCD then go for the 92/95 series for the best overall value in 720P/1080P sets.

Thanks alot guys for your help.

jiggie2g

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by njanderson
PS: still looking for the use timer.
So am I.

mboyaj

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggie2g
P.S. I almost pulled the trigger on the Pio 5070 but it was $600 more then the 4695D and $900 more then what i paid for the 5053. I will say this is the best Flat Panel in the market , but logic finally kicked in and told me that 4 inches and a great 720P picture was not worth the extra $600 and headaches that come with owning a plasma. also I will add that the LN-S4692D(720P, my original choice) is also a superb set and had i not already spent so much money on the 5053 i would have picked this set instead. If ur gonna go LCD then go for the 92/95 series for the best overall value in 720P/1080P sets.

Thanks alot guys for your help.
I have been lurking here for a while. I am looking for a replacement for my Sony GWIII. After seeing the S5053 at the local stores, I had settled on this one. However, the reports of buzzing have reveal it as a risk. I am back to square-one in my search. The LN-S46xxD series, based on your assessment, sound like a good (re)starting point. Because I plan to use a MCE PC on the unit, LCD may be a better route for me.

Thanks for the reveiw.

Update: Bought the LN-S4095D, delivery on Thursday.

harrisek

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

1) When does the buzzing start if you're going to have it. I mounted my 5053 to the wall, hooked up an xbox360 and so far NO BUZZ. However, I've no video signal yet. I'm waiting for a HD satellite/rec from DirecTV. Will that be the test or am I good already? Just wondering if I still have to worry.

2) What kind of power setups do most of you have? BB wanted me to buy a power bar component in the worst way but I declined. I was going to get a UPS for surge protection and backup power to give me enough time to shut things down if the power does go off. Any suggestion?

3) Is there a set of recommended settings for the break in period? I want to change the contrast, brightness, sharpness, etc but couldn't find a standard. Is there any rule or suggestion I should follow when lowering all of them?

thanks

Ellison

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by mboyaj
So am I.

It's in the service menu, then menu 2, then plasma display timer or something similar.

-n

premio

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Well I'm no longer a 4253 owner. I decided to return the set on account of the buzzing issue that wouldn't go away. I wasn't gonna sit around and have Samsung replace every part in my TV until they figured it out, especially when the price for a new one drops weekly. For a $2000 piece of equipment, out-of-the-box quality control shouldn't be an issue.

It is a shame, because I still believe it is the best 42" plasma out there in terms of PQ. I'm seriously considering sending Samsung a letter with a copy of this thread.

Anyhow, bye bye Samsung!

jmhumr

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

I saw mention of this in a "burn-in" thread but not quite the full answer. I just bought the S4253 and its been great. I have the pixel shift function on but it doesn't seem to do anything. I saw mention of getting into the calibration menu and turning on a pixel shift test, which I did, and now the screen continuously shifts by one pixel.

I don't have my cable service yet so I'm just watching OTA HD. Does the pixel shift not work on HD channels and maybe just standard channels? I was thinking maybe it does this because it assumes pixel shift is not needed on a widescreeen HD picture but as we all know, not all HD is 16:9. Thanks.

hwang

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmhumr
Well I'm no longer a 4253 owner. I decided to return the set on account of the buzzing issue that wouldn't go away. I wasn't gonna sit around and have Samsung replace every part in my TV until they figured it out, especially when the price for a new one drops weekly. For a $2000 piece of equipment, out-of-the-box quality control shouldn't be an issue.

It is a shame, because I still believe it is the best 42" plasma out there in terms of PQ. I'm seriously considering sending Samsung a letter with a copy of this thread.

Anyhow, bye bye Samsung!

Good for you , no one should have to put up with this kind of nonsense. I was so sad about this who buzzing situation. Especially after 2 sets, This was truly a great set with the best picture in it's class. It's really too bad about this bad batch of TV's but they make me feel like these TV are buzzing time bombs after reports of buzzing coming after the purchase.


Jmhumr , I say you should just jump to the LCD bandwagon and consider the sets i recommended, they are truly exceptional flat panels.

jiggie2g

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellison
1) When does the buzzing start if you're going to have it. I mounted my 5053 to the wall, hooked up an xbox360 and so far NO BUZZ. However, I've no video signal yet. I'm waiting for a HD satellite/rec from DirecTV. Will that be the test or am I good already? Just wondering if I still have to worry.

2) What kind of power setups do most of you have? BB wanted me to buy a power bar component in the worst way but I declined. I was going to get a UPS for surge protection and backup power to give me enough time to shut things down if the power does go off. Any suggestion?

3) Is there a set of recommended settings for the break in period? I want to change the contrast, brightness, sharpness, etc but couldn't find a standard. Is there any rule or suggestion I should follow when lowering all of them?

thanks

Ellison-

1. My 4253 started buzzing right out of the box. Whether my 360 is hooked up or not it still gives off the same amount of buzzing noise. Same goes for my OTA antenna.

2. I currently have mine plugged into a Kensington surge protector - nothing fancy.

3. There are quite a few thoughts for settings for the break in period - when I was looking for mine I just searched this topic for "break in" and came up with quite a few suggestions. You can also take a look at the "Master Burn-In/Break-In Thread" sticky thread under AVS Forum > Display Devices > Plasma and LCD Flat Panel Displays. (Sorry it won't let me post the URL - I have fewer than 5 posts)

As for my 4253... Its going back this week and getting exchanged for the same model (hopefully not a buzzer this time). After reading 57 pages of this topic and spending many hours driving around to different retailers to look at the TV in person I have decided that the 4253 is the TV for me - I just have to find one that does not buzz.

Hope that helped out!

TagHeuer

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

So other than the serial numbers of the people with buzzers can I get states and cities. I am in Kansas City and thus far no complaints from my customers at BB/Magnolia. I was wondering if the sets were sent to one region or if it truely was widespread.

Magnolia039

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

I'm just going to wait a month or two to buy my 5053. By then samsung should have this all sorted out and only non buzz units will be out for sale.

predator4325

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by westa6969
At some point shouldn't they get credit for doing something right?
Westa,
Absolutely. I haven't seen Samsung's new plasmas but I have been impressed with their new line of LCD's. I'm just saying that reliability is also important and it's going to take a few years of proven longevity in order to convince me to purchase any large ticket item from LG or Samsung. If their performance was demonstratibly superior to the rest of the field, I might be tempted but just to be on-par with the leaders won't do it until their staying power is proved. I hope they do it - completion is just whatís needed to drive down the price of a 1080p 65" flat panel to under 4k (the point at which I put my 50" in the basement).

RicheyPoor

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by predator4325
I'm just going to wait a month or two to buy my 5053. By then samsung should have this all sorted out and only non buzz units will be out for sale.
The 53 series is being phased out and the 73 series will be the standard. Some stores like Tweeters only carries the 73 series now. The price premium is about $400. There are a few feature differences but the video processor is the same on both units. However, one big difference is the non-reflective glass that was introduced on the 73 series which gives it more of an LCD look. I happen to like the 53 series glass as the slight reflection gives it a deeper crt look.

omeletpants

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia039
I know at my BB/magnolia store turning the sharpness down or off helps a bunch since the signal is split so much. also change the settings. if you can go into the menu and change the picture to:
Custom
contrast 50-65
brightness: 60-70
Sharpness:0-9
Color: 34
Temp: Normal
NR: on or off
DNIE: Off

Let me know what you think.

Then leave and buy your tv at BB because of this helpful hint

I play my 360 on my panel and I have not had any burn in. After 60 to 120 minutes of constant play of Most Wanted I get image retention in the lower right corner and then I quit and turn the cable HDTV back on and it immediately goes away.

I'm trying these settings out now - I didn't notice the Custom setting so I had it in Movie mode with the Color up more towards 40. Now I re-checked this thread and saw Custom and I switched it to custom to see the difference. Now I don't know whether I like Custom or Movie more! I guess its just preference - but these seem like a good start. Set looks really good, I love this TV!

googooboy

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by TagHeuer
Ellison-

...

Hope that helped out!

yes, thanks for the response, appreciate it.

Ellison

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Well..long time lurker and 1st time poster. I bought the 5053 in August and it buzzed. Well I contacted Samsung and they sent a tech out. He said it was normal. Well I don't think this is normal so I persisted with Samsung to get a replacement. Well the replacement came and it was much worse than the last one. Well I called them back and they ordered another replacement no questions asked. Well my 3rd unit arrived last Friday and it buzzes too. Well I called Samsung back and this time I was refererred to the Executive Custmer Relations department. The tone of the call changed as soon as I said I didn't want another TV like this one and wanted a new model. That's when I got to level 2 customer support. They were excellent to deal with and I now have a LN-S4695D 46" 1080P LCD on the way. I'll take the upgrade to 1080p and won't miss the 4 inches of screen space. I saw this TV at Best Buy and was blown away. Maybe I'm just unlucky to get 3 buzzers but I think I will be happier with the LCD. To all that have buzzers, stand firm and they will take care of you. I just think this is unacceptable for a TV of this caliber. Time to go get an HD player now...

Sidulator

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia039
So other than the serial numbers of the people with buzzers can I get states and cities. I am in Kansas City and thus far no complaints from my customers at BB/Magnolia. I was wondering if the sets were sent to one region or if it truely was widespread.
My original set came from DC, and the second one came from Alexandria, VA (same store chain though).

jmhumr

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Hi, I have the HP S4253, I somehow turned off something called HDMI Calibration. Now the screen is really red. I cant set it back to normal through the normal Menu options. Please help.

rxs24

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia039
So other than the serial numbers of the people with buzzers can I get states and cities. I am in Kansas City and thus far no complaints from my customers at BB/Magnolia. I was wondering if the sets were sent to one region or if it truely was widespread.
My buzzing set was bought in New Jersey. Still waiting for a repair.

gsaff

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

hwang: Before you do irreparable harm to your tv, get out of the calibration section of the service menu! That area is not meant for consumer interaction and there have been more than a few occasions of people going in there and because they aren't familar with the consequences, have rendered their set useless - even a certified technician will not be able to bring your set back to it's factory settings, if you go too far on this.

rxs24: I'm afraid you might now be in deep ca-ca. Please read above. In your case, I would reccomend that you immediately contact Samsung and get a service tech out there to see if there is any way he can repair whatever it is you have done to your set. Don't be surprised if after all his ministrations, you still can't get your set back to factory settings.

I realize I sound harsh on this point, but there have already been too many horror stories out there from people innocently going into their service menus, getting far too deep in things they shouldn't be doing and then rendering their sets unwatchable afterwards.

I just spent $300.00 getting my Sammy professionally calibrated for optimum picture quality and listened to all of these horror stories from someone who has witnessed their end results first hand. And he said that even at his level (which I would put several layers ABOVE the ordinary service tech), there have been times when the consumer has buggered up their set so much, that even someone such as himself couldn't bring them back.

Frost147

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Quote:
Originally Posted by omeletpants
The 53 series is being phased out and the 73 series will be the standard. Some stores like Tweeters only carries the 73 series now. The price premium is about $400. There are a few feature differences but the video processor is the same on both units. However, one big difference is the non-reflective glass that was introduced on the 73 series which gives it more of an LCD look. I happen to like the 53 series glass as the slight reflection gives it a deeper crt look.
The 53 series isn't going anywhere. The 53 series is a plasma display for the core stores BB/CC/ect and the 73 is for stored like 73. This is most likely an attempt to get a high end and a low end like pioneer and pioneer elite.

Magnolia039

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gsaff
My buzzing set was bought in New Jersey. Still waiting for a repair.
I live in New Jersey and my set was purchased thru the criminals at Amazon. It was delivered through Eagle shipping and the original point of origin was in Cincinnati Ohio. The original pickup date in Cincinnati was Sept 5th, 2006. I only have a faint buzz, but worried it might become worst. So far after one month it has not and the set works too good now for me to mess with. I do love the picture and the set in general. Hoping this helps.

Bob

BobSz2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia039
I know at my BB/magnolia store turning the sharpness down or off helps a bunch since the signal is split so much. also change the settings. if you can go into the menu and change the picture to:
Custom
contrast 50-65
brightness: 60-70
Sharpness:0-9
Color: 34
Temp: Normal
NR: on or off
DNIE: Off

Let me know what you think.

Then leave and buy your tv at BB because of this helpful hint

I play my 360 on my panel and I have not had any burn in. After 60 to 120 minutes of constant play of Most Wanted I get image retention in the lower right corner and then I quit and turn the cable HDTV back on and it immediately goes away.
Hey Mag,

I'm going to give those settings a try, I can't seem to decide which settings I like and I have had the 5053 since July!
BTW what settings do you prefer on your 360? I'd like to try those also. I've noticed I have to put the brightness up around 80 ,you?

Jimbos

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I'm new to this forum and thank all that have taken the time to post comments on this topic.

I'm on my second 5053 within two weeks and debating on next steps. Have called Samsung on this and they deny knowledge of any buzzing issue. Offered to send out a tech, however not willing to help them troubleshoot their defect on my time.

Anyone know if there is any easy repair to this? I love the picture and hate to move on to something else if a quick part swap will solve this.

jquill76

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Covetek
FEAR's right...stay away from those August made ones...I heard some September had problems (not sure) and some September ones were okay. Samy plasma's before August I havent ever heard of any problems.

Has Anyone fixed or addressed the buzzing through the samsung manufacturer warranty??? So far everyone who has had their buzzing addressed was through 3rd party company warranty.
FYI - I have a Aug 2006/Mexico unit and have no buzzing issues ...

meech

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still on fence to purchase 4253 - was wondering if this tv had as one of the aspect options for watching 4:3 - when i read the tv manual, there were only normal (4:3), zoom1, zoom2, wide (16:9).
and by the way what is zoom2?

searched the thread and couldn't find any answers. thanks.

saywhat

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Frost147: Thanks for the warning of the calibration menu. I do understand. thankfully the pixel shift test is the only thing i played with. I would not want to touch anything else.

But i'm still wondering why the pixel shift feature doesn't seem to work.

hwang

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbos
Hey Mag,

I'm going to give those settings a try, I can't seem to decide which settings I like and I have had the 5053 since July!
BTW what settings do you prefer on your 360? I'd like to try those also. I've noticed I have to put the brightness up around 80 ,you?
Let me check when I get home tonight. I moved it the other day and accidentially moved the button on the cable that switches it from HDTV. That is fixed now and I haven't played much with the settings since. I was toying with the idea of using the VGA cord since the upgrade (1080p) will be through the VGA output this fall ( I know my pdp is 720p). Have you watched a movie on the 360 yet. I watched the X3 movie and the black bars had a wierd off color grey color. I could only fix it by running the movie at contrast 55 and brightness 55. I was thinking maybe I might get a better transfer through the upgrade component cables or VGA. I will post again later.

Magnolia039

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Quote:
Originally Posted by joacosole
I'm having the same problem as Rotaryboy. Everywhere I go to look at the 4253 and 5053 they have that pink snow and it's on the left side of the TV. I would like to know if it's 100% fixable through the service menu.

Hmm, the X-Board (on the left as you face the set) is the left side video driver board with the vibrating hum that is transferred by the flex circuit connectors (I've been corrected from "ribbon connectors") to the metal rear panel which amplifies it (on some of these sets, like mine) into the intolerable buzz.

As I've stated, the buzzing problem begins with the X-board. The Y-board (right side video driver board) and the power board (center) are quiet. My best guess is the X-board and the Y-board perform the same function each for 1/2 of the panel. Can anyone confirm or refute this?

Could this X-board vibration have anything to do with the pink problem? Is this pink problem only on the left side of the screen?

My set has no video problems - yet. Just the buzz. Perhaps there is more to the buzz than meets the ear.

jdschatz

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave240z
I am certain that I came off rather strongly with regard to your ?gross errors?, but it was because they are in fact gross errors.
I apologize if my tone rubs you the wrong way, but Iím not going to apologize for the content of what I said. Shame on me I guess.
Now you've reduced your argument down to only one error I made, (gave up on all the rest after I pointed out all of your gross errors, yet you still use the plural. And you still refuse to apologize for the content. You are a real piece of work. Oh yes, you never did point out the "conjecture" you also accused me of.

easycruise

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on my 4253 it looks great and no buzz
but when there is a picture and all or some of the screen goes black, you can still see color from the last picture shown, is this a problem with the set or something that you just get use to with plasmas
i have had only for 2 or 3 days and no its not burn in

obviously a new picture is show real quickly and it goes away so you really have to look for it.

does this make sense to anybody?

opinions appreciated

42inplasma

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Quote:
Originally Posted by victorle
(may be due to lack of cable card and IEEE 1394 inputs)?? Does it mean that I can only watch this through DIRECT TV/DISH and not cable company like comcast???

You need a set top box like you would get from Dish/DirectTV...

ndotmoss

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bernie33
Interesting. After seeing earlier posts about this behavior I checked the instruction manual for my 5073. Although it is a bit confusing, it does say that in HDMI input mode you can only choose 4:3 or 16:9. I've ordered HDMI cables anyway and they should arrive in a few days. I'll post the results unless others do it sooner.
The manual, for the 5053 that I have at least, states these modes are not available with HDMI IN 720p or 1080i MODES! . Those that can stretch are obviously sending the signal from their source in 480 over the HDMI cable.


malooga, go ahead and verify this for them.

Side Note: I changed my DVD player to output at this lower resolution during my break in period so I could still use the HDMI cable and still stretch the screen to remove the black bars, and now after my 100 hrs have changed it to 720p.

TTGator

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdschatz
Hmm, the X-Board (on the left as you face the set) is the left side video driver board with the vibrating hum that is transferred by the flex circuit connectors (I've been corrected from "ribbon connectors") to the metal rear panel which amplifies it (on some of these sets, like mine) into the intolerable buzz.

As I've stated, the buzzing problem begins with the X-board. The Y-board (right side video driver board) and the power board (center) are quiet.

Could this X-board vibration have anything to do with the pink problem? Is this pink problem only on the left side of the screen?

My set has no video problems - yet. Just the buzz. Perhaps there is more to the buzz than meets the ear.
On the units that I have seen it's on the left side when you face the set.

How many people have had this pink issue and how have they resolved them.

joacosole

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Loving my 5053 so far... 2 days till DTV comes for the install! Can't wait!!!

But damn all of you buzzing people out there... I never heard any buzzing at all until you got me psyched out with the scare/hype. Now when the volume is off or very low I can faintly hear it when I listen for it, then I can't STOP hearing it.

Well, until I forget to listen for it again. Then all is better

Oh, and all the people that are posting their settings... hows about telling people WHICH sammy you have. I'm sure that makes a huge difference. I ran DVE on mine and like the outcome.

I keep hearing people say the AVIA is outdated and DVE is better.... wow... I would HATE too see how outdated AVIA is after seeing how outdated DVE is The section in DVE that helps you calibrate your Sharpness says that sharpness actually makes your picture worse, but is needed on some TVs because they are that bad essentially. The test pattern got no better when I increased it from 0, so I left sharpness at 0.

And for the... umm... crap I forget which one now. Either contrast or brightness, towards the beginning of the setup, you are supposed to lower it until just after some little line is straight (is no longer bent). I remember this working on my Sony CRT when I did this, but at 100%, the line still wouldn't bend. So I'm pretty sure this particular test is solely a CRT setup thing.

I don't remember all of my settings as I'm at work, but I know that the contrast and brightness are up much higher than some people say is "safe" or "good". But it looks friggin sweet watching Star Wars III upconverted
I think color with the blue film trick came out to 53 if I'm not mistaken.
And I did use Movie Mode, simply because I set it at night in the environment I would be watching movies. I have since read everyone likes that one the best and it is not identical to the other 3 modes. Guess I got lucky

TTGator

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Frosty...

I think you posted a long time ago that you had either AVIA or DVE and were going to do that, but then you got it professionally calibrated. I have seen you say how well the money was spent and you love it, but I never saw if you calibrated it yourself and the pro was that much better, or if you ONLY had a pro-cal and never ended up doing it yourself. Can you let us know please?

And if you or anyone else has done both, kind of give us an estimated increase in viewing pleasure... Like if out of the box the set ranked a 60%, then self-calibration was %80, then pro increased it to 100%... you know... something tangible.

Thanks!

TTGator

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 42inplasma
on my 4253 it looks great and no buzz
but when there is a picture and all or some of the screen goes black, you can still see color from the last picture shown, is this a problem with the set or something that you just get use to with plasmas
i have had only for 2 or 3 days and no its not burn in

obviously a new picture is show real quickly and it goes away so you really have to look for it.

does this make sense to anybody?

opinions appreciated
That's called image retention. If your watching college football continuously with the same scoring bar on for hours upon hours you can get it. Same thing with any static images such as CNN's scrolling news bar. I've had my plasma about 3 weeks and only twice have I noticed it. Once was when I left the tv on all night but the dish network screen saver came on and was on for hours and one other time. Just watch something else for a while and it should go away.

lewdogg21

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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbig
The red screen issue can be addressed in the service menu under white balance. Ajusting the red drive and the red offset helped my picture.
Paul,

any reason it would only be on my 4x3 portion of my screen? And not where the black side bars are? especially in widescreen.

timcsport

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ndotmoss
I believe you are talking about PadreFan's buzzing... it is believed his is electrical because the buzzing/humming was not replicated @ CC when his tv was plugged in and powered up @ the store. And i'm pretty sure he opened every breaker in his house except the one feeding the tv and it still buzzed.

Speaking of which, padrefan do you live near a power plant, transformer assembly, high-power linesv(13.8KV or something along those lines)?? just curious
I do live near high voltage powerlines and presented that somewhere way back in this thread because I've thought that could be an issue depending on how sensitive plasma's are. Sorry for the slow response time im only on hear occasionally.

Also i dont want to steer everyone away from the mechanical problems versus electrical, thats just what Ive experienced.

padrefan19

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Does anyone know if there is a difference in screens from the 33 to 53 to 73 models?

When i was in Futureshop I didn't notice a single difference from 53 to 73 except for a difference in frames. Of course I am not a professional calibrator so like 75% of the market I wouldn't know the difference. I do know the 53 or 33 was 100 less then my 73 which great that you can get a 73 for almost the same price if you haggle your way through it.

Also last night I tried to do a simple calibration with PGR3 I know it isn't the right way to go but I figured it would help. Got it all set and went and watched a replay and it looked sweet, but cause my set isn't broken in I dropped back to my horrible breakin settings and I noticed that on the edges of my replay the track actually disappeared and was replaced with a large amount of shadowing and it looked really wavey and awful. So I messed with the contrast and it would disappear into the edge of screen as soon as I got the contrast high enough. Does that sound proper to you all? This is with components plugged in. Almost like it was over saturating the blacks. It was not pretty in the least. I don't remember it having all this wavey blackness on VGA. Of course I was not looking for it then.

The reason I switched is it felt like vga lost all it's punch to the color. It looked pale and sickly on the dashboard. Back to component the color came flying out.

Snlfan

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snlfan
Does anyone know if there is a difference in screens from the 33 to 53 to 73 models?

When i was in Futureshop I didn't notice a single difference from 53 to 73 except for a difference in frames. Of course I am not a professional calibrator so like 75% of the market I wouldn't know the difference. I do know the 53 or 33 was 100 less then my 73 which great that you can get a 73 for almost the same price if you haggle your way through it.

Also last night I tried to do a simple calibration with PGR3 I know it isn't the right way to go but I figured it would help. Got it all set and went and watched a replay and it looked sweet, but cause my set isn't broken in I dropped back to my horrible breakin settings and I noticed that on the edges of my replay the track actually disappeared and was replaced with a large amount of shadowing and it looked really wavey and awful. So I messed with the contrast and it would disappear into the edge of screen as soon as I got the contrast high enough. Does that sound proper to you all? This is with components plugged in. Almost like it was over saturating the blacks. It was not pretty in the least. I don't remember it having all this wavey blackness on VGA. Of course I was not looking for it then.

The reason I switched is it felt like vga lost all it's punch to the color. It looked pale and sickly on the dashboard. Back to component the color came flying out.
The xx33 has no anti glare, the xx53 has level I anti glare, the xx73 has level II anti glare.

richbogrow

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cool ty for the reply and that is good to know.

Snlfan

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The xx73's come with this list of options which (i believe) the 53's and 33's do not have:

QAM tuner
Cable card
All-in-2 Memory card reader
USB port
6 speaker system
Swivel stand
Filter bright plus

largtr

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snlfan
Does anyone know if there is a difference in screens from the 33 to 53 to 73 models?

When i was in Futureshop I didn't notice a single difference from 53 to 73 except for a difference in frames. Of course I am not a professional calibrator so like 75% of the market I wouldn't know the difference. I do know the 53 or 33 was 100 less then my 73 which great that you can get a 73 for almost the same price if you haggle your way through it.

Also last night I tried to do a simple calibration with PGR3 I know it isn't the right way to go but I figured it would help. Got it all set and went and watched a replay and it looked sweet, but cause my set isn't broken in I dropped back to my horrible breakin settings and I noticed that on the edges of my replay the track actually disappeared and was replaced with a large amount of shadowing and it looked really wavey and awful. So I messed with the contrast and it would disappear into the edge of screen as soon as I got the contrast high enough. Does that sound proper to you all? This is with components plugged in. Almost like it was over saturating the blacks. It was not pretty in the least. I don't remember it having all this wavey blackness on VGA. Of course I was not looking for it then.

The reason I switched is it felt like vga lost all it's punch to the color. It looked pale and sickly on the dashboard. Back to component the color came flying out.
Go back to the settings that you like instead of suffering. No reason not to.
enjoy your TV.

bernie33

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Except I am worried about IR and burn-in. Don't know if it is an issue or not but I would rather not take the chance.

We will see how much more I can take though having to use nightvision so much in R6 is a pain.

Snlfan

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To update:

the wife and I decided that since we can hear a hum/buzz sound sometimes when the volumne is 15 and under (it drowns out the broadcast) we would try our luck with another from 5053 from CC. They will deliver Saturday. Hopefully its not a dud.

lewdogg21

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true but its not like a scrolling bar and the tv hasnt been on that type of channel for more than 30minutes

any other tips besides hoping it goes away?

is this just a plasma thing to live with
i mean the thing is on hd programming though i havent figured out if720p or 1080i on my cable box is best the picture looks sweet
but its just those black momements that the the picture that was shown last kinda seeps through
besides that im quite happy with the set
and sd is decent not great, but decent.

any tips here?

thanks



Quote:
Originally Posted by lewdogg21
That's called image retention. If your watching college football continuously with the same scoring bar on for hours upon hours you can get it. Same thing with any static images such as CNN's scrolling news bar. I've had my plasma about 3 weeks and only twice have I noticed it. Once was when I left the tv on all night but the dish network screen saver came on and was on for hours and one other time. Just watch something else for a while and it should go away.

42inplasma

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snlfan
Except I am worried about IR and burn-in. Don't know if it is an issue or not but I would rather not take the chance.

We will see how much more I can take though having to use nightvision so much in R6 is a pain.
You're right to take steps to avoid burn-in/image retention. You'll want to do that for the life of your TV. Samsung and other manufacturers don't recommend a break0in period to avoid those problems. If you look back in this Forum you'll see that that recommendation came many years ago, with an earlier generation of technology from Panasonic. Your setup won't hurt IF you also avoid watching 4:3 images for extended periods if time AND if you you don't leave the same image on the screen for an extended period of time. Of course you'll want to do that for the life of your TV.

bernie33

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I'm finding myself in a dilemma now. I'm on my third tv from circuit after returning it for the buzzing issue. This 3rd set didn't buzz initially when I exchanged it, but now it does.
I'm leaving town for 2 weeks holiday vacation and my 30 days will end during that time.

I'm afraid to exchange for yet again another buzzer, so if I exchange I think it will be for the Panasonic equivalent.

My other option is to hope that a tech from Samsung or Circuit City will be able to diagnose and fix my issue, but at this point, they are all booked up until after the holidays and after my 30 day exchange.

After all the posts I saw on the buzzing issues...was a resolution nailed down by anyone having technicians come to the apartment?

I could always attempt to test my electrical or go w/ a line conditioner but that is costly in time and money.

sincap2

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Sorry, forgot to mention that I have the 4253. All 3 have been November builds...and one exchange took place at a different store than the original.

sincap2

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There has been some discussion on this forum as to which is better HDMI or component connections. I have done some experimenting and the results are:

First, I calibrated my TV for both HDMI and component connections. The settings for contrast, etc., are different based on the connection.

I then performed an unscientific study, observing the picture quality under both connections and various settings for HD on my satellite box.

HD channels: For HD content, I see no difference in picture quality between component and HDMI. The HD picture seems slightly better with my satellite box set to 1080i as opposed to 720p.

SD channels: This is where the big difference can be seen. For SD content, the component input is noticeably better than the HDMI input. The SD picture seems slightly better with my satellite box set to 720p as opposed to 1080i.

Also to note, is that the sound is a little crisper using the HDMI connection ( I do not have a surround sound system yet and use the TV speakers).

So what connection is best depends on how you watch your TV. If you watch mainly HD, the HDMI connection set to 1080i is the best. If you watch a mixture of HD and SD, the component connection set to 720p is the best. Of course you can always have both connections hooked up, as I do, and switch as necessary.

I have also found that turning off DNIE and DNR provides a better picture. They seem to increase pixellation, especially with SD channels. In fact, I can't even calibrate the set using HDNET calibration screen with DNIE turned on.

This is just my opinion based on what I have found with my satellite box, the VIP 622 from Dish Network. Other setups may yield different results.

richbogrow

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 42inplasma
true but its not like a scrolling bar and the tv hasnt been on that type of channel for more than 30minutes

any other tips besides hoping it goes away?

is this just a plasma thing to live with
i mean the thing is on hd programming though i havent figured out if720p or 1080i on my cable box is best the picture looks sweet
but its just those black momements that the the picture that was shown last kinda seeps through
besides that im quite happy with the set
and sd is decent not great, but decent.

any tips here?

thanks

I thought I would reply even though I don't have an answer but I'm sure someone does. I'm not sure why you would have instances of IR if your watching as you say you are. SD Pic quality is myeh btw. It's much worse than the 32" Sony WEGA we had in the living room before. (makes sense though as to why).

Be patient, someone will probably have some helpfull advice for you.

lewdogg21

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42inplasma how high is your contrast and brightness? This can leave what you are talking about if those are to high I believe. Of course I am probably the last person that should be leaving advice lol. Havn't had this problem on my plasma but I sure did on my LCD. hmm.

Also Ndotmoss just wanted to say I tried your settings I found earlier in the thread and SD channel while not perfect cleaedr up quite a bit. TV looks amazing now . So thank you for posting them and if you make any changes I would be interested to hear about them. Do you use those settings for 360 on vga or component?

Snlfan

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Just got home and fired up my new Sammy 5053... Picture is excellent and fit and finish are perfect, but it's a buzzer. Sounds like a high voltage line running right thru my living room. I could hear it even with the dish washer running in the next room. Buzz is coming from the upper right corner of the monitor. Yes, it's an October 06 Mexico model. I guess I have to call for a replacement, I can't live with this.

Anyone know if CC will charge me again for delivery after I already paid them to deliver the buzzer?

Jon

aviman33

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Quote:
Originally Posted by steveturbo
I can't watch it stretched (zoomed) as well, maybe because I use to do CAD, and circles need to be circles, not ellipses.
Yeah I can't stand stretched either. I can watch Zoom2, but I can't watch 4:3 stretched to 16:9, the people are short and fat.

dan1101

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Tried to resolve the red push problem in service menu but to know avail. My red problem is red top and bottom and sides with white to green in the middle. Thought maybe a magetic problem from my Apogee speakers but it isn't. Tried to demagnatize the screen but that didn't work, so its back to the drawing board!

paulbig

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Quote:
Originally Posted by aviman33
Just got home and fired up my new Sammy 5053... Picture is excellent and fit and finish are perfect, but it's a buzzer. Sounds like a high voltage line running right thru my living room. I could hear it even with the dish washer running in the next room. Buzz is coming from the upper right corner of the monitor. Yes, it's an October 06 Mexico model. I guess I have to call for a replacement, I can't live with this.

Anyone know if CC will charge me again for delivery after I already paid them to deliver the buzzer?

Jon
They shouldn't charge you. I didnt even have them deliver my first one and they delivered the exchange (another buzzer...Nov 06) for free.

padrefan19

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Padrefan19,

Was your buzzing coming from the speaker or from behind the screen in the upper right quadrant. Mine is coming from upper right behind the screen and sounds just like a high voltage flyback coil in an old TV set. The only thing that changes the frequency or relative volume of the buzz is the whats on the screen. For instance going from a white screen to a predominately black screen makes a change in the buzz.

By the way, did you ever get a set that does not buzz? If not what is your plan, live with it, call for repair or exchange for a Panny? I would hate to do that, we really like this set.

Jon

P.S. they are coming to pick mine up on Christmas eve.

aviman33

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I haven't even gotten around to switching my Harmony 880 over, but I'm excited to see another post saying the Samsung has discrete IR codes!

Back to the buzz: I just bought a big stupid Monster surge protector (the one that's $179 at Circuit City) and it made no difference whatsoever. I made it clear at the store that I'd be returning it if it didn't fix the problem, and they were fine with it.

A question to those of you who have had a Samsung tech come out: Did the tech go to his van and bring back a new power converter to try out? I think that's what he said it was. When he came back in, he realized that although the replacement part was for the 5053, it didn't look like the one in the tv so he didn't replace it. I was on top of a ladder decorating my Christmas tree so I didn't see exactly how it was different, but maybe it was just a newer model of the same thing but doesn't buzz. I don't know how he can claim that it was a normal buzz after he went to the trouble of getting the part. Oy.

chabuchie

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Originally Posted by padrefan19
I can't believe with so many complaints we are all left to try to figure this out (short of the service techs) without samsung trying to give some info or possible reasons/fixes. It seems to me even the service techs are clueless to what is causing it. Has anyone else out there with a buzzing TV taken it elsewhere and plugged it in (like I did to CC and it was fine)??? I really am convinced this is an A/C issue with the TV and not the TV alone, I'm just not crafty enough electrically to figure it out.
What kind of area/room where you in at CC? Unless it was completely closed of from the rest of the store the ambient noise probably drowned out the buzzing. Also how long did you leave it plugged in for?

steveturbo

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We had my brand new HP-S5073 opened up on the dining table for surgery this evening. Everything is visible once the rear cover is removed, the main boards being the A/C distribution and a two "driver" boards with several huge (680uF) caps and two giant heatsinks with coils for both the left and right side when viewed from behind. The technician referred to these as the "Y" and "X" board respectively. These boards connect directly to the plasma panel itself via several flex circuit connections.

We tried to isolate the sound by unplugging the X/Y boards and lo and behold the sound was gone. Once we plugged in the X/Y boards, the sound returned. The "X board seemed to make more noise (this would be on the left side of the TV when your watching it) than the other so we replaced it with a spare. The noise was exactly the same. This has led the technician to believe that the panel itself is faulty. I am not 100% convinced that the panel is bad, but I did notice that the sound seems to eminate from beneath the heatsinks on both the X/Y boards. It is a very localized sound and I would assume that if it was a panel the sound would be more widespread. However, without test equipment it is impossible to say whether the problem is the panel causing the X/Y board to make noise, or whether the X/Y boards have an assembly issue. I'm not being paid by Samsung to diagnose this, but in my experience it should be fairly easy for them to at least isolate this problem to a few components or the plasma panel itself. How they fix it is up to them, but the problem is certainly repeatable.

To top it off, the tech wanted me to try and record the sound. All I have is a digital camera and the mic is not adequate to pick up this sound frequency so this was a struggle, but I was able to record the sound if I got close enough. He is recommending a replacement but said the video with sound would help the case??? I can't say I completely disagree with him as a picture with sound is worth a 1000 words, but this is not easy to document and they should be more trusting of the tech recommendation IMO.

So, I'm now in the hands of Samsung who will decide my fate. If I get a replacement and it makes the same noise I'm returning it for a full refund and will hold off on this big screen stuff for a while until these problems of mass production are adequately resolved.

Dave240z

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Has anyone tried to use a power ground adapter?

http://www.tangible-technology.com/p...dADAPTER_w.jpg

I own a Roku photobridge that wouldn't stop making a constant electical hum. After re-wiring my system twice and trying multiple outlets around the house, I read on the Roku forum how several people were able to solve this problem with a simple power ground adapter. I tried it and it worked. I was a bit shocked that all of my other electronics worked but this one device was causing this problem.

I don't own the set, primarily because of this buzzing issue and I would buy it in a second if I thought we could reliable solve this problem.

Someone with a buzzer has to have one of these adapters lying around somewhere. Please try it and report back.

Thanks

Drew

PS: I didn't ground the adapter to the screw. I just plugged it in and the buzz/hum went away immediatley.

drew138

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Has anyone tried to use a power ground adapter?
I tried that as well just for grins when I was trying to isolate the A/C. I've had this thing plugged into a Monster power filter with the ferrite choke installed and with the ground adapter with no success. So I can only conclude that the buzzing does not seem to be related to any ground loop.

From what I have seen tonight, it seems to be directly related to the devices underneath the heatsinks on the "X/Y" boards, which in turn connect dirctly to the plasma panel via flex circuits. Either that or the panel itself is bad and is transmitting the noise through the "X/Y" boards since they are in direct contact (via thermal gap pads).

Dave240z

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My 4253 has a slight buzz. August/Mexico build. The buzz is only audible from about 2 feet away. I have noticed that the buzz seems to get better after an hour or so after the set is on. In any case it is not loud enough to cause problems from normal viewing distances.

I originally had the set plugged into a Monster surge protector (non clean power). After reading some of the posts theorizing that the buzzing may be from a power quality issue, I bought a new Monster protector with Clean Power. No difference in the buzz. However, I do believe that my picture quality has improved, especially the SD channels. So some good has come from changing the surge protector.

richbogrow

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If your buzz is only audible from 2 ft, I don't think you have a problem. That said, even from 2ft my old Sony didn't have a buzz.

chabuchie

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My 5053 is scheduled to be delivered on Monday, I'm curious has anyone tried connecting this unit to a UPS? I have a nice pro APC UPS standing by to test out the buzzing issue.

vadimr

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I honestly don't think a UPS will do any good, I don't think this buzz ia a power issue.
I have a $750.00 Chang Lightspeed power conditioner with a very expensive Audioquest filtered power cord running into a PS Audio outlet on an isolated circuit and still a buzz which is freaking driving me nuts, especially for such an expensive television.
So, I have very clean power to this tv at this point.
When my home theater is cranked up you can't hear it but when doing normal viewing with tv sound it's there.
I have my 30 days to return the tv but I don't like anything else, I want the 5073 and want it to work free of any buzzing.
Should I take it back and buy something else or risk Sumsung taking care of the issue?

mgallus

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I bought one of these bad boys this monday. I brought it home and set it all up. It looked great, so I began the break-in process. Everything was going well until I read this thread about buzzing and I couldn't help but hear it at that point. I assumed the sound was standard for plasmas (I had written off plasmas years ago due to many issues, to include burn-in, so I didn't realize that the technology had come to the point of near silence). I exchanged it today at Brandsmart and that one didn't seem to buzz (it was hard to hear in a loading bay though), so wish me luck with it tonight. If it does, I am going back and trading it for the Samsung 3296 LCD (which was my initial intent anyway, but I got size-greedy). It's not worth the hassle, especially for a bedroom TV. I just hope they honor their sale price (Brandsmart has *GREAT* deals if you're in GA or FL), as the 3296 was the same price as the 4253 (albeit difference technologies). And I would hate to get ride of it simply due to the price I paid.

skyjumper03

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I saw this tv at circuit city with my wife about six weeks ago, and my wife instantly was drawn to the picture(50 inch 5053) so I decided to research the tv here and I've read this thread from the beginning. I have a dedicated theater room (front projection 106" screen, 7.1 sound, etc) so this would be a secondary tv in our bedroom. After reading about the buzzing issues I had all but ruled this tv out, so I come to my lot(i manage a retail car lot) pick up a truck and head to the store to buy the panny. Get to the store, I couldn't do it. The sammy was the tv I had to have. Had a 30 day return policy so if it buzzed I would just waste time and energy and come back and get the panny. It hummed but not buzzed. And after about 10 minutes it would be all but silent unless you were behind the tv(wall mounted on a swinging arm). In front at the screen no buzz(or hum). Easily had 200 hrs the first 30 days. I would constantly put tv on mute to try to hear buzz, to the point i thought I was going insane. I have a Motorola cable dvr box hooked up to it. I couldn't hear the buzz for the hard drive in the cable box. So on the 30th day I decided to keep the Sammy. I'm very happy with the set. Like I said before by set hums, but no buzz, and then the hum is behind the set. So people there are sets out there that are quiet, I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

Jerry Durham

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Hi-

I just had my 4253 calibrated today and it's the best $250 I've spent !! I would highly recommend calibrating your plasma -- it has made a huge difference!!

meech

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UPDATE: Switched out the sets, got another with an OCT 06 manufacture date, lug it up to the condo (not fun), plug it in ... and silence. For about half a second. Now it buzzes, but not as bad as the first.

For all you buzzers out there, does your set sound like a pc fan or is it a just barely noticeable, but distinctly there sound? Mine in the second one ... so I'm wondering if I am being overly paranoid. The sound I have sounds like a piece of electronic equipment left on ... not a hum like a pulsing power supply, but a very high pitched whine.

Like I said, I could be driving myself crazy hearing normal operational sounds, but before I have to decide if I am going to return this for an LCD or if I will learn to love the noise, I want to check.

skyjumper03

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Originally Posted by skyjumper03
UPDATE: Switched out the sets, got another with an OCT 06 manufacture date, lug it up to the condo (not fun), plug it in ... and silence. For about half a second. Now it buzzes, but not as bad as the first.

For all you buzzers out there, does your set sound like a pc fan or is it a just barely noticeable, but distinctly there sound? Mine in the second one ... so I'm wondering if I am being overly paranoid. The sound I have sounds like a piece of electronic equipment left on ... not a hum like a pulsing power supply, but a very high pitched whine.

Like I said, I could be driving myself crazy hearing normal operational sounds, but before I have to decide if I am going to return this for an LCD or if I will learn to love the noise, I want to check.
My sound is more of a quiet buzz. Not a high pitched sound. I have that sort of paranoid feeling too. If it wasn't for this forum and hearing of all the buzzing sets, I never would have given this buzz a second thought. My VIP 622 DVR makes almost as much noise.

richbogrow

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Originally Posted by richbogrow
My sound is more of a quiet buzz. Not a high pitched sound. I have that sort of paranoid feeling too. If it wasn't for this forum and hearing of all the buzzing sets, I never would have given this buzz a second thought. My VIP 622 DVR makes almost as much noise.
Rich, I also have the VIP 622 and the DVR is louder than the tv. How do you like the combo. My SD is good, not great, but HD can be stunning

omeletpants

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Rich-

I guess that kinda describes mine too. I'm torn on whether to return it or live with it. My gf loves it (and can't hear the noise) but it bothers me. Plus, for a bedroom TV, it's kinda big for my taste. Jerry, you must love TV and movies, because I couldn't even fathom a 50" in the bedroom. I'm already thinking of downsizing to a 32".

I don't want to get a 32" for the bedroom and move this to the main room, as I have a Sony 34XBR910 CRT that I LOVE. If they could make those bigger, I would buy one in a heartbeat. It still blows my mind how good those look compared to the "latest and greatest" technology has to offer. That being said, the Sammy's presentation is much better.

skyjumper03

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i want to get an oppo upconvert dvd player. i was going to get the 971 which outputs 720p & 1080i, but the 981 is just releasing for $30 more and outputs 1080p. does the samsung 5053 even accept a 1080p signal? since it's a 1366 x 768 resolution is it just a moot point anyway, it would down-convert (?) the 1080p signal??

Just looking for a good solution since i'm not about to spend money on an hd-dvd or blu-ray player at this point. thanks for your help.
mike

miked33

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I just got my new Samsung HP-S5053.
I love this TV!

I saw the date was November 2006 and haven't heard any buzzing at all.

Chaoss

Samsung Plasma HP S5053 and HP S4253 reviews

Another update....

A week has gone by with the second plasma. As I may have said before, I bought the Tv over Thanksgiving up at my parent's house. My father and I lugged it down to my house last Sunday. We plugged it in and turned it on. My dad was centering the TV on the stand and as he tweaked it slightly, the barely audible humm became a loud buzz. Long story short, we found that if you tweaked one side of the Tv while you held the other, the sound would become louder or softer depending on which way you tweaked it (hold upper left while you push upper right slightly and vice versa). So I put my hand on the back left (this is where the hum on mine comes from... about right in the middle to upper third) and putting just the weight of my hand or with a slight push on the back causes the noise to disappear.

Does any of that work for you guys with very loud buzzers? Try it.

I don't believe I will take this unit back. The hum is so slight, it's barely noticeable. I'm wondering if opening up the back and throwing some padding under the metal cover will stop the slight hum from turning into a loud buzz again?

Doug

douglee25

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Originally Posted by omeletpants
Rich, I also have the VIP 622 and the DVR is louder than the tv. How do you like the combo. My SD is good, not great, but HD can be stunning
The HD is outstanding. SD leaves alot to be desired. I think the SD has much to do with Dish Network. Some channels like the locals are not very good, but other SD channels such as HBO are very good. I managed to get SD looking better by adjusting the picture. My Brightness is at 70, Contrast is 45, Sharpness is 20 and Color is 50.

SD by definition will not look as good on an HD set as a normal set because the set always has to stretch the picture.

richbogrow

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SD by definition will not look as good on an HD set as a normal set because the set always has to stretch the picture.
Why can't you set it for 4:3 on the HD set?

malooga

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Originally Posted by malooga
Why can't you set it for 4:3 on the HD set?
4:3 will still stretch the signal because SD only has a resolution of 480 pixels. HD tvs have a resolution of at least 720 pixels (vertical). So even set at 4:3 (black bars on sides) 480 pixels are still being stretched to fill 720 pixels.

richbogrow

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