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PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

Naah! I'm sure the Neo-Geo was more than that - the games were ?100+ each!!

t-force

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Originally Posted by t-force

Naah! I'm sure the Neo-Geo was more than that - the games were ?100+ each!!

if i remember correctly the Pad alone was ?100 and the games were ?150+

Solar

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

why is this in the nintedo forum?

Games Guru

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

Other Consols is the only thing i can think of.

When i started it was in the "PS2, XBOX and console...."

Maybe they should put it in the PS2 thread, or create a thread for "future gaming???"

hughesy

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That price is quite phononimal

Think I might wait for the price drop on that one ?400 is a big push, but ?450 ?? Their blowing bubbles, I need some money left to buy a couple of ridiculasly priced games too. Thats after saving for months

tris

nero0410

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

According to that site the price is just pure speculation. I would expect the launch price to be ?399 max.

Greg

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Originally Posted by GregHook

According to that site the price is just pure speculation. I would expect the launch price to be ?399 max.

I agree it is speculation, there are few people saying it is going to be priced exactly like its predecessors i.e. ?300 that is why it is said that sony will lose lots of dollors in its first year of PS3 which it might never recover but then again if sony sells its PS3 for ?350 to ?450 it will still lose because not many would buy PS3, Sony will lose either $s for first year or costumers for good, so I believe Sony will take its chances by pricing PS3 from ?300 to ?350. they wouldn't want to lose customers, definetly.

Shin Akuma

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

It probably will debut for 399, but it could feasably go for more initially especially if its one of the first bluray players out. Imagine the first dedicated bluray or hddvd players going for 200-300 quid, many potential early adopters may consider the ps3 relatively good value at the time. Sony will fleece early adopters to recoup as much as possible, they'll use all their advertising muscle to entice consumers. Then when initial enthusiam fails they'll cut the price to a reasonable 200-300 quid about 6-12 months later.
Theres no way in hell i'd spend over 300 on a games machine so the 360 will have most of my attention in 2006.

drskhaled

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

Quite a few people splash out a lot on a gaming PC which in many cases is used almost solely for that purpose. ?400 isn't much really - I spent that on an Amiga and that was sometime back in the late 80's (and the Amiga actually launched at ?599)! OK so it's got a keyboard on it and is a home computer as opposed to a console, but virtually everyone just bought one to play games on.

Playstation has the brand name and if it's a good enough machine then I think that it will still sell by the bucket load at ?400ish. Personally i'd rather spend a bit more on a better machine especially as you are looking at a 5 year lifespan. I tend to spend a good ?500 every couple of years upgrading my PC and the only reason for upgrading is to play the latest games. The internet, word etc will work fine on an old 486!

It will be interesting to see how it pans out as whenever someone has priced fairly high in the past (Neo Geo, X-Box) they haven't really had the brand and market share to back up their price.

CAS FAN

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

More into PC Gaming myself, so I won't pay more than ?150 for any console. I'm prepared to wait a year or so until it get to the prices that the XBox and PS2 are now.

Greg

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

It's worth that price for the blu-ray player alone.

A O Malley

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

they will cost about ?500 to build each system, work the rest out for yourselfs

oxygenuk

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by GregHook

More into PC Gaming myself, so I won't pay more than ?150 for any console. I'm prepared to wait a year or so until it get to the prices that the XBox and PS2 are now.

Me too, I've still got too many unwrapped games from the current-gen!

Tejstar

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

Well, one more reason to get the xbox 360!

jenic

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

its a lot of money to pay for a console no doubt about that and i wont be buying a ps3 if at release anyway as i have been swayed to the darkside by the constant use of my xbox lol so i will be getting a 360 and possibly a revolutionif it can get back to the snes days.

now wether this is mind games or not but kutaragi himself is even saying that this console will be exspensive http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07...s_6129611.html but this might just be his way of bracing everyone for the ?400 price tag.

apart from san andreas the last year or so imho has been somewhat of a let down for the ps2 and with major titles dissapointing (GT4,pro evo4 etc) i have to say im certainly leaning towards not buying a ps3 at all,especially at a price of 400 plus.

as far as blu ray is concerned id rather have a nice hard drive in the console than blu ray as lets face it the people who have the screens to benefit from blu ray wont be watching there films on ps3`s and will more than likely have a standalone blu ray player,you cant even compare a ps2 dvds capabillitys to that of a budget player so im not holding out much hope for a top end blu ray player to be included in a console.i could be wrong but the games arent even on blu ray are they ? and will just be a dvd game.

SILVERBACK

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

According to their E3 speech the bluray capabilities will enhance gaming through more storage and faster load times. The jury is still out on the PS3 for me as we still don't know for sure what the price will be and exactly what functionality the machine will have. With the 360 we know what we are getting and it's all a lot more tangiable at the moment.

Personally i'll definately get a 360, maybe a PS3 and only a Revo if there are some great killer apps and if it's cheap enough.

CAS FAN

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

I�m glad the PS3 has blu-ray capability as I�m hoping that the problems associated with video playback on the PS2 will not be present on the PS3. Either way, it will be a relatively cheap way of killing 2 birds with one stone: playing proprietary Sony games as well as entering the next-gen home cinema market.

Tejstar

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

Personally, I feel that sony have told too many lies in the past over the capabilities of their consoles. Remember the FF8 "real-time" graphics that were basically a huge lie? Now they come out with "real-time" killzone graphics.

When PS2 was released, people were basically disappointed with the graphics. I know that I was, not to mention the lacklustre software at launch. The DC wiped the floor with the PS2, but the only reason PS2 succeeded was the lies sony peddled, about how much better the PS2 would be.

I, for one, have a memory, and won't believe anything sony says until they prove it. Personally, I would be very suprised it it is released with HDMI and bluray and before 2007 in Europe.

Look at the PSP, it has been delayed over here at least 3 times. Look at gran turismo 4. The PS2 release was delayed for over a year, and looks like being delayed until 2006 on the PSP, despite sony previously saying that GT4 mobile would have a March release.

They are some of the biggest liars out there, and I have grown very wary of sony because of it. To all the people that think they will have the PS3 by easter, think again. I would be suprised if we see before May in Japan. Very, very suprised.

They only have 250 dev kits out ATM, and they are looking very much like not having many more out for a long while, due to problems.

The PS3 will launch with very few titles, stripped down to the bones and far, far inferior than all the tech demos would have you believe.

Games Guru

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by Gary D

any disc spinner of mine that did that would be in the bin

Gary

...Do you think that's why Sony went on to Sale 90 million consoles...'cos everyone threw their original machines away !

Mickus

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by Mickus

...Do you think that's why Sony went on to Sale 90 million consoles...'cos everyone threw their original machines away !

I know lots of people that returned thier PS2's after about 18 months saying that they didn't work anymore.b My not a PS man anyway - but i'd have to see what the shelf life is like of PS3 before i bought one. furthermore if its as badly built as the PS2 i certainly wont buy one.

Gary

Gary D

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by danvitale

I still say that the Xbox360 is more of a rip off without HD-DVD than the PS3 with BluRay is. People who will buy the PS3 will be getting a next gen BR-DVD player. Essentially the only thing you are getting with the 360 is better graphics and sound.

(Im still going to be buying both though)

Thing is, not everybody has a HDTV to watch Blu-Ray movies/discs anyway. For them, having a Blu-Ray drive is pointless. In Europe probably less than 1% of households currently have HDTV's. In USA it's only 10% or so. With the avaerage life span of a console being just 5 years, the lack of high definition disc playback for 360 really isn't that important. Especially to those who just want to play games.

Rob20

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

But it�s nice having the functionality there, just in case!

Tejstar

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by Rob20

Thing is, not everybody has a HDTV to watch Blu-Ray movies/discs anyway. For them, having a Blu-Ray drive is of no use to them. In Europe probably less than 1% of households currently have HDTV's. In USA it's only 10% or so. With the avaerage life span of a console being just 5 years, the lack of high definition disc playback for 360 really isn't that important. Especially to those who just want to play games.

Can't say i agree mate, with the advent of sky HD, people are starting to get a bit itchy and excited about HD. A huge part of why people buy consoles is because of the graphics, and that is directly related to whether a game can blay in HD or not. Have a look at these forums and the amount of threads on HD and HD gaming. IMO that fact that the next consoles are offering HD gaming is a big part of why i'll be buying one....

hughesy

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by Rob20

You have to consider that Sony is looking for the PS3 to span a 10 year console cycle, where as MS are off for the 2 console approach in that time. I've noted my views on this thread - post 7.

Currently there are around 10 million subscribers in the US to HD and you can bet that most of them (being technology savvy) will go for a HD console. At the moment we're only looking at around 30000 to 40000 HD users in this country but when you consider that there's not really any mainstream content available then that's hardly a surprise.

You have to produce the content before you can build a user base which is why the likes of Sky, Sony & MS are switching to HD now. Think about it - if nobody produced any content then the user base of HD TV's would never increase. By 2008 it's forcast that there will be 40 million HDTV's in Europe and I believe that between 2008 and 2010 (only 5 years away) the format will really start to take off.

CAS FAN

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by hughesy

Hold up, you've moved onto a separte point there mate. I was merely considering whether having a Blu-Ray drive for HD movies/programmes was of any benefit to the average console gamer/consumer. Anyway, what proportion of Sky users will adopt HDTV programming over the next 5 years? what proportion would like to but won't pay the ?10+ premium? how many will be prepared to upgrade and replace their current tv for a HDTV? (that probably works just fine).

If you consider that only 12% of USA households have a HDTV after having HDTV programming for 6 years, (apparantly many only use it to watch SD sources, like me with my HD LCD but no HD source as of yet), you can see how it's likely that Sky's impact will be niche for a few years yet. Even if in 5 years, 10-15% of households have access to a HDTV, 85+% won't have a HDTV in the home by the end of the next gens life cycle. Then you have to take into consideration that the just becuase a household has a HDTV, doesn't mean that there will be a console hooked up to it. A lot of kids have tvs in bedrooms on small tvs and won't be able to afford a HDTV. My parents would not have wanted a console hooked up to the main tv when I was younger.

Basically, in 5 years time, it's likely that only 10% of the Uk's households may be able to watch Blu-Ray discs in HD, or play games in HD. So if you consider the average 5 year life cycle of a console, even at it's peak, 90% of households will not benefit from the PS3 having a Blu-Ray drive. Which of course is unecccesary for HD gaming anyway. Drawing any conclusions from posts on this forum is meaningless simply becuse people on here are a niche group of technology enthusiasts and are unrepresentative of the average consumer.

Rob20

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by CAS FAN

I don't believe for a minute that the PS3 is intended to survive as Sony's main console for 10 years. I reckon it's more likely that they mean games will still be made for it in 10 years asd they do/did!? for PS1. Perhaps they're trying to help justify the high price tag with it's longevity. The funny thing at the moment, is that there aren't any tvs that acept 1080p 50/60. The only set with a 1080 res, (Sharp's 45" lcd), only accepts 1080i. Even Sony's $30,000 Qualia projector only accepts 1080i, which it then converts to 1080p. When the PS3 launches in the Uk, how many people will have a HDTV capable opf 720p/1080i let alone 1080p. Not many. I know dozens of people with consoles, (colleagues, frinds, family etc), yet I am the only one with a HDTV. For them HD gaming, films etc are meaningless cos their tv won't display it and they're not about to spend ?1,000+ on a tv that will.

Rob20

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by CAS FAN

5 years is a long time in the console world. What with the average console generation only lasting 5 years, (or less), these days. It's taken 5/6 years for the USA to get 10 million subscribers, (of it's 240+ million population). That's still small fry. It's not like when the PS2 launched with dvd and anyone with a scart tv could benefit from it. Basically, the only reason why the PS3 has BR is for the benefit of Blu-Ray. If sony were not behind BR in a big way, the PS3 would have used dvds as the XBOX 360 and Rev will do.

Rob20

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by Rob20

Hold up, you've moved onto a separte point there mate. I was merely considering whether having a Blu-Ray drive for HD movies/programme 2D40 s was of any benefit to the average console gamer/consumer. Anyway, what proportion of Sky users will adopt HDTV programming over the next 5 years? what proportion would like to but won't pay the ?10+ premium? how many will be prepared to upgrade and replace their current tv for a HDTV? (that probably works just fine).

If you consider that only 12% of USA households have a HDTV after having HDTV programming for 6 years, (apparantly many only use it to watch SD sources, like me with my HD LCD but no HD source as of yet), you can see how it's likely that Sky's impact will be niche for a few years yet. Even if in 5 years, 10-15% of households have access to a HDTV, 85+% won't have a HDTV in the home by the end of the next gens life cycle. Then you have to take into consideration that the just becuase a household has a HDTV, doesn't mean that there will be a console hooked up to it. A lot of kids have tvs in bedrooms on small tvs and won't be able to afford a HDTV. My parents would not have wanted a console hooked up to the main tv when I was younger.

Basically, in 5 years time, it's likely that only 10% of the Uk's households may be able to watch Blu-Ray discs in HD, or play games in HD. So if you consider the average 5 year life cycle of a console, even at it's peak, 90% of households will not benefit from the PS3 having a Blu-Ray drive. Which of course is unecccesary for HD gaming anyway. Drawing any conclusions from posts on this forum is meaningless simply becuse people on here are a niche group of technology enthusiasts and are unrepresentative of the average consumer.

it really depends on how well blu-ray takes off as a format??? A lot of people have mentioned that they would buy a PS3 because of the blu-ray, and console in one box. had another point but forgotten now??

hughesy

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Originally Posted by hughesy

...A lot of people have mentioned that they would buy a PS3 because of the blu-ray, and console in one box. had another point but forgotten now??

after the rubbish DVD play back on the PS2 whose going to trust Sony to make Blu-ray work on the PS3. i dare say that most people here would go for a separate blu-ray player anyway assuming that blu-ray wins the format war. i want a console that plays games well and not an all in one cop out for everything. i'm sure the PS3 will be lovely but Sony's rep has, for me at least, been dropping for a few years now.

Slightly off topic, but doesn't anyone else think its laughable that Sony are STILL selling PS2 memory cards for ?20 a pop? jokers!

Gary

Gary D

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Originally Posted by Tejstar

I�m sure it will sell well. Remember, when Sony�s marketing machine is in full swing, on one is safe. I�d like to see the console race more evenly split for the next-gen but unfortunately I just can�t see Sony relinquishing their unassailable position.

My post takes into account Sony's marketing and even though some people are sucked in by it - the majority of people aren't that daft.

When the PS2 came out it was first (apart from the already failing DC) and it wasn't released at a silly price. Infact at ?279 it was cheaper than the X-Box (?299) which was released around 15 months later!

If the PS3 releases at ?400+ then it won't stand a chance against a 360 priced at say ?250. When you consider that you need to buy better cables, another pad and some games at release then you will be talking perhaps ?500 - ?600 outlay for the PS3 at launch! That's just far too much and it could have the best brand & marketing in the world but it wouldn't make a difference. Price is one of the major rules when it comes to marketing and if Sony get this wrong then I can't see the machine selling.

CAS FAN

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Originally Posted by CAS FAN

Tejstar

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by Tejstar

....I just can�t see Sony relinquishing their unassailable position.

the same was probablt said about Sega in 1991 - oh look its a dodo

if M$ put their mind to it thay can crush sony it just depends if they want too. If Mr Gates can give ?5.5 billion a year to charity (from his own personal fortune) then an ailing company like Sony can be seen off. i really hope they are - teach them to be cocky - but the PS3 will be a "chav" console anyway oh hang on, they wont be able to afford it

?20 for a memory card ha ha ha

Gary

Gary D

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

I really don't see the PS3 selling that well to be honest. Only the tech savvy people will even know what blu ray is and if the PS3 is going to sell at it's "expensive" price tag then the mass public needs educating very quickly about Hi Def and Blu Ray.

If MS can get it right then they will take the market from underneath Sony. The X-Box is now a pretty well known brand and if they also hit us with a massive marketing campaign around launch then I expect excellent sales! Even when the PS3 comes out most people will compare it to the 360, see little difference in quality and shy away from the bigger price tag. I mean if you have a 360 selling for ?250 and a PS3 selling for ?400 both running the same game to pretty much the same standard, then what are people going to pick? Are they going to say - na...i'll go with the PS3 because the Playstation brand is cool? or are they going to go for the 360 because it's cheaper, has more games out for it and because their mates also have one?

The only unknown for me is the HD-DVD senario. Will this push the 360's price up to near the PS3's? How will they deal with the upgrade of existing owners? MS need to get the HD-DVD thing right otherwise it could all backfire!

CAS FAN

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I've little to no interest in the PS3 but i found this posted:

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AT THIS WEEK'S Sony Computer Entertainment's PlayStation Meeting in Tokyo, company president Ken Kutaragi meandered along to continue with his solemn warnings that the PlayStation 3 will not be a cheap console, even going so far as to say that "�the PS3 can't be offered at a price that's targeted towards households."
Well err, who else were you thinking of selling it to? That aside, he does say that Sony is planning a lifecycle of ten years for the PS3, which is about double what its predecessors got. Sony hopes to maintain this long life-cycle by investing now in those expensive pieces of kit, saying "We're looking at a life cycle of 10 years with the PlayStation 3. We're currently shifting from standard TVs to HDTVs.

"But in the next couple of years, most flat-panel TVs will be full HD. We're releasing the PS3 with full HD features from the start so that consumers won't have to buy another version of the console in the future. For the same reason, we're using Blu-ray as the PS3's disc format."

He also showed the first slides of the early dev kits and told the audience that Sony intends to meet the huge demand from developers to get their hands on the technology by October, as at the moment the number currently shipped to developers is only around 450, though they�ll ramp that up to 3,000 a month come October.

We can�t help but get uneasy feelings in our stomachs about the PS3 considering that it�ll be coming to market so long after the Xbox 360 and with a price tag to boot. Wonder how far that loyal PlayStation fan base will stretch?

Apologies if already posted

Pooon

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Originally Posted by hughesy

read here

The PS3 Will Be Expensive: We Get It Already

Sony President Ken Kutaragi seems adamant on hammering us that the Playstation 3 will be expensive. First he says that he wants consumers to work super-hard to get one, and now he says ?the PS3 can�t be offered at a price that�s targeted towards households.? Which makes us wonder just who the price is targeted at, exactly. Corporations? Kingdoms? Island nations? Sultanates?

Kutaragi does say that the PS3 will last about 10 years because they�re packing it with features that�ll make it compatible with HDTV and Blu-Ray DVDs, which will prevent consumers from buying another version of the console in the future. That�s all fine and dandy, but we�re thinking it might be a ploy to up the price exponentially. ?Cause you KNOW die-hard gamers are going to go out and buy this thing anyway, regardless of how pricey it is. Which makes us wonder why Kutaragi seems to be so gung-ho about telling us we can�t afford it � we�re thinking it�s some kind of weird reverse psychology, so that we�re tricked into thinking we can afford it when we can�t. Or something. We�re confused.

Tejstar

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

read here

hughesy

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

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Originally Posted by MattTheBeanster

Interesting discussion, made me think.

I would have originally thought that the 360 dropping HD-DVD would have crippled it when comparing against Sony's Blu-Ray. But a bit of thought and I have to agree alot of people wouldn't use and therefore wouldn't want to pay for it.

I love tech and am willing to pay for a bit of future-proofing, but I would buy a dedicated player for HD material. A Hard disk seems a more practical idea to me.

Anyway at the end of the day (for me) the games will decide. It takes at least 3 games that i really want to play to make me buy a new games machine be it ?180 or ?400. Neither one has this yet, maybe if a new SSX came out that would swing it .

Found this Matt

hughesy

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Originally Posted by Rob20

The only set with a 1080 res, (Sharp's 45" lcd), only accepts 1080i.

But Doesn�t the Sharp have 1920 x 1080 resolution. Iwas under the impression this was a 1080p set?

Tejstar

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

Sharps 45G1DE displays 1080P

http://www.cnet.co.uk/misc/print/0,3...9187163,00.htm

danvitale

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

but whats the actual panel like to watch stuff on ? its ok having 1080p but if its as bad as lcd`s now then its pointless imho.

SILVERBACK

PS3 Most Expensive Games Console Ever

SILVERBACK - I saw the image on the Sharp when the Champions League Final was on and it was fantastic (although it was being fed a live HD feed).

I've never been a fan of LCD's though, but unfortunately if I want a 1080p display than it will have to be an LCD or pj as plasma technology is unlikely to offer 1080p sets for a while. When they do come about they'll be rare and very expensive!

Tejstar

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Originally Posted by Gary D

Tell me about it ! Had to buy ANOTHER memory card last week, God damn kids with their games ! Argos ?15.99...But at least with the PS3 there will be no propriety storage this time around, any memory stick will do the job (just like the PSP) - I think my mate paid ?65 for a 1GB stick.

Mickus

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Originally Posted by Rob20

My main point though Rob is that you have to provide the content before people will buy the sets to watch it on. At the moment there is zero HD content available in the mainstream (and it's still limited and rather new in the US). If companies like Sony, Sky & MS don't start producing HD output then there will never be a HD revolution. 1080p is a few years off being affordable but 720p PJ's are falling in price (the Sanyo Z3 and Panny AE700 have almost halved in price over the last 6 months)and so are HD LCD's and Plasma's. When I joined this forum you were paying ?5,000+ for a plasma that you could get for ?1,000 - ?1,500 now and over ?4,000 for PJ's that you can get for ?800 now. Demand and technological advancement is clearly pushing prices down across the board.

I also don't see why at least an 8 year life span for a console in unreasonable and only the "it's always been 5 years" brigade would say it is. As long as the console has all the right connectivity and output to see it through that time then why not. Graphics can only get so good and remember that the PS3 won't even release over here until late 06 early 07. The PS2 looks a good 2-3 years behind the X-box graphically speaking, however it's still the best selling console out there. The DC (released 6 years ago in 1999) still competes on a graphical level!

Anyway, like I say though - my main point is that there must be the content before the demand for HDTV's can develop.

CAS FAN

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