Question I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site ( SitePoint Forums SitePoint Support and Feedback )
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
Hey Guys and Gals!
Check out GarlicInfo.com -- the site is entirely made up of content from SitePoint.
I emailed the guy several days ago asking him to take it down, but no luck.
I tried contacting his hosting company, I talked to someone through their live-chat feature, who told me to use a sales form on his site to contact the abuse department (I doubt they have one). Needless to say, the form didn't work and he told me to "try again later". I don't think the webhosting company is going to do anything about this pirate...
I can't be responsible for someone tries to take down this site
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
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Originally posted by jkcity
It looks like that site is just a bunch of affilate links now, wish I had seen it before.
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Click on the cache version @
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...t&q=garlicinfo
uwajes
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
similar? it is downright identical!
weirdbeardmt
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Originally posted by iTec
Bwahahahaha this is getting better, almost like a bad episode of neighbours!
my appologies Sir Sketch for my $1 error
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Neigbours don't have bad episodes but home and away is a diiferent story.
It looks like that site is just a bunch of affilate links now, wish I had seen it before.
jkcity
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Originally posted by dhtmlgod
I'm hosted with GNX, maybe if I write, saying something like I'm disappointed that they allow people to break their TOS etc. etc. if it doesn't get fixed, I'll be moving host for moral reasons.
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Good idea....
Matt Mickiewicz
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
They're down!
I wonder where the new site came from (original or stolen?)
Matt Mickiewicz
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Originally posted by uwajes
My favorite part of this great site is their keywords and descriptions.
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Bwahahahaha this is getting better, almost like a bad episode of neighbours!
my appologies Sir Sketch for my $1 error
iTec
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Holy Cow! That's..that's!! I have no words for it, sue them
JMulder
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I wonder if they re-publish Time magazine under a different name and cover, too?
That's just low. It's one thing if you link to it, but to actually post it on your own server? Come on.
jeremyk
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
sue them!
SWD
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
[chants] Sue, Sue, Sue...
TechSited
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They are in New Zealand, we're incorporated in Australia... anybody got $20,000 lying around in a bag somewhere to pay our lawyers? It's not like they would have money to pay us anyway. It's a one-man operation on a shared server.
Matt Mickiewicz
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We were just kidding Matt. It's another aweful situation and I experienced tons of these, the only thing you can do is contact the owner of the website/domain or try more at the host.
JMulder
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This probably isn't the first, and it probably won't be the last... It's sad that this needs to happen, especially since SitePoint is full of unique content, not redistributed content...
Jeremy W.
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That is shameful, lucky for them I can't seem to find any of my work anywhere, I wonder how they would like to be sued by a multi-million coorporation such as my employer?
Nicky
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
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Originally posted by Jeremy W.
This probably isn't the first, and it probably won't be the last...
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true, but this one has to be one of the worst!!! its soooo blatant it isnt funny,
Matt, gimme 2 grand and ill fly to NZ track him down and kick the livin (use some imagination) out of him.
itll save you 18g`s and ill have some fun :0)
have you tried complaining to his host???
iTec
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Originally posted by iTec
have you tried complaining to his host???
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Originally posted by Matt Mickiewicz
I tried contacting his hosting company, I talked to someone through their live-chat feature, who told me to use a sales form on his site to contact the abuse department (I doubt they have one). Needless to say, the form didn't work and he told me to "try again later". I don't think the webhosting company is going to do anything about this pirate...
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Saltire
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
Registrant:
Gnx-Servers.com
121 SW 4th Ave
Hallandale
Florida, 33009
US
Domain Name: GNX-SERVERS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Boodoosingh, Javan Webmaster@Gnx-Servers.com
121 SW 4th Ave
Hallandale
Florida, 33009
US
4402086909991
Technical Contact:
Boodoosingh, Javan Webmaster@Gnx-Servers.com
121 SW 4th Ave
Hallandale
Florida, 33009
US
4402086909991
Billing Contact:
Singh, Javan SALS@GNXONLINE.CO.UK
424A Lewisham High Street
Lewisham
London, SE13 6LJ
GB
0208 3145680
Record last updated on 20-Nov-2001.
Record expires on 16-Apr-2002.
Record Created on 16-Apr-2001.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.GNX-SERVERS.COM 209.61.186.226
NS2.GNX-SERVERS.COM 64.49.192.17
The previous information has been obtained either directly from the
registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions.
Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or
completeness.
aspen
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Whoo, I see heads rolling.
guysmy
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
Wow, imitation the finest form of flattery? Hummm, I think not (obviously the originator of that quote never thought about cheep imitation...).
Anyway, if you do a search for these articles' titles in Google, that site shows right behind SitePoint--I don't know about other engines. Gosh, who ever did this certainly did a number on you. Wasn't that domain listed once when you were posting expired domains in a newsletter, too? I hope you can get this thing down soon.
Also, it seems to be a real modgboge of a bunch of different sites, if you have a gander at the source, there's a few tags from SearchEngineWatch, too. Also, who ever did it knew enough to remove the FrontPage generator tags, but not the rest of the MS tags (I always think that's funny...).
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They are in New Zealand, we're incorporated in Australia... anybody got $20,000 lying around in a bag somewhere to pay our lawyers?
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I guess that kinda dispels the rumor that you guys were making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month... Huh?
~~Good Luck!
Ian Glass
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Well -- I have found one humorous aspect to all of this. I about keeled over laughing when I saw the site; what is that? -- a blue table?
<sarcasm />Now that is a site I would definitely use if I needed increased traffic! No design and lack of proper grammar. I'm sold.
Aes
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
What beautiful design this site has, it makes you wonder if THEY wrote the articles. That banner ad at the top of design is like the golden star on top of a finely crafted Sears x-mas tree.
When surfing www.garlicinfo.com I feel as though I have been in Cuba for several months, guided by seven supermodels. My silver-plated bucket of arctic-cold Corona beer nestled within the hot sand.
Coherent Section of this Post:
They get an average of 36,959 hits a day! Most of this traffic is coming from Google, but they also rely on warez and sex sites for traffic. (What a credible source!)
Also of interest 99.87% of people do not get past the main page of this site!
In total ripped-off Sitepoint articles have only suffered about 300 page views since the site's inception.
Stats by Stats4all
guysmy
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Well their sales form has started working so I sent them an email....
Matt Mickiewicz
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
Matt,
Let us know how it works out with contacting their host. This is terrible and I can understand how you must feel. (I have a content site too, and if someone stole the content from my site, I'd definitely be really angry too...)
computertim
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This ripoff is so obvious it's breathtaking!
Matt, a letter written by a lawyer will often scare people into compliance. And it isn't $.
By the way, if this thread were to *vanish* - it might be a good thing.
Jimknee
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
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Originally posted by computertim
Let us know how it works out with contacting their host. This is terrible and I can understand how you must feel. (I have a content site too, and if someone stole the content from my site, I'd definitely be really angry too...)
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Imagine how each of the authors feel.
RKuhle
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yer, im with rkuhl, i went thrue the site looking for my article and was glad it wasnt there... has anybody else looked at the stats the site is getting, they are quite high!!
iTec
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
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Originally posted by iTec
Matt, gimme 2 grand and ill fly to NZ track him down and kick the livin (use some imagination) out of him.
itll save you 18g`s and ill have some fun :0)
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Yah!... can i come too itec???
and, how come this thread vanishing would be a good thing???
platinum
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Originally posted by platinum
and, how come this thread vanishing would be a good thing???
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Because the guy may see the referring page then work out that we are onto him then it might make pursuing anything legal etc difficult. Silly boy
Saltire
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Originally posted by platinum
Yah!... can i come too itec???
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only if matty will give us another 2...
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Because the guy may see the referring page then work out that we are onto him then it might make pursuing anything legal etc difficult
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yer, or he could see that we are on to him and get scared and take the site down.
iTec
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no sketch, he said he was sitting there aeating $3 microwave dinners and said 100k a month would be nice...
iTec
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no! It was $2 microwave dinners!
Sketch
Technosailor
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
My favorite part of this great site is their keywords and descriptions. Since he has testified in court, I wonder if Danny Sullivan wouldn't mind taking action against Garlic since he is being violated too.
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<meta name="description" content="Search Engine Watch is the authoritative guide to searching at Internet search engines and search engine registration and ranking issues. Learn to submit URLs, use HTML meta tags and boost placement.">
<meta name="keywords" content="listings search engine watch web site, danny sullivan editor internet.com using meta tags improving placement, how to submit urls to major internet search engines webmaster's guide, rankings search engine registration tips for searching better reviews, tutorials technology report free newsletter, news articles placement engine submission online help www.searchenginewatch.com">
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uwajes
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Originally posted by Matt Mickiewicz
I can't be responsible for someone tries to take down this site
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Is that a challenge
nah... maybe not... I think that might be very much classed as *illegal* as well
platinum
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MAtt...
I thought I read in another post something about you pulling in $100,000 a month! You can affoprd any lawyer...even Johnny Cochran!
Sketch
Technosailor
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
uuuahoahooo check out this advanced editor
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
platinum
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
I'm hosted with GNX, maybe if I write, saying something like I'm disappointed that they allow people to break their TOS etc. etc. if it doesn't get fixed, I'll be moving host for moral reasons.
dhtmlgod
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Originally posted by platinum
.. I think that might be very much classed as *illegal* as well
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what? and us to flying to NZ to kick the crap outa the guy would be???
iTec
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Originally posted by weirdbeardmt
Saying something like that is really silly! It's like saying to a kid, "You don't want to go into that room..". You just know what they are going to do...
And to be fair, I wish I hadn't clicked! The last time I saw that was bad enough...
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<littlekidsvoice>
naaa-naa-naaa-na-naa-naaaa! I goatse'd you!
</littlekidsvoice>
M. Johansson
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Originally posted by freakysid
Have you not noticed that GNX-Servers.com is located in rackspace.com - your ISP?
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i dont think rackspace would take down the site tho, as they are not responsible for the garlicinfo site, that is gnx-servers responcibility, as rackspace would only be providing gnx with the server. The terms of service therefore arent with garlicinfo
iTec
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Just use mod_rewrite to block all image calls from websites outside of the SP Network. I'm surprise this isn't already in place.
RKuhle
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
Don't worry we have been planning a suprise for all these bandwidth thieves for a while now, and yes it will be with mod_rewrite. You would be amazed how many people steal our images, from both sitepoint and the forums.
Jason Donald
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Have you not noticed that GNX-Servers.com is located in rackspace.com - your ISP?
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garlicinfo.com resolves to 209.61.186.226
Trying whois -h whois.arin.net 209.61.186.226
Rackspace.com (NETBLK-RSPC-NET-2)
112 East Pecan St.
San Antonio, TX 78205
US
Netname: RSPC-NET-2
Netblock: 209.61.128.0 - 209.61.191.255
Maintainer: RSPC
Coordinator:
Rackspace, com (ZR9-ARIN) hostmaster@rackspace.com
210-892-4000
Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
NS.RACKSPACE.COM 207.235.16.2
NS2.RACKSPACE.COM 207.71.44.121
Record last updated on 05-Sep-2000.
Database last updated on 25-Nov-2001 19:53:57 EDT.
The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's.
Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related
Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information.
Traceroute:
Code:
garlicinfo.com resolves to 209.61.186.226
3 66.28.28.33 3.416 ms f1.ba01.b000899-0.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
4 66.28.6.241 3.500 ms g2-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
5 66.28.4.78 6.323 ms p5-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
6 66.28.4.5 36.976 ms p6-0.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
7 66.28.4.46 146.866 ms p15-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
8 66.28.4.57 61.456 ms p5-0.core01.mia01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
9 66.28.4.65 75.210 ms p5-0.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
10 66.28.4.126 264.386 ms p14-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
11 66.28.4.21 87.529 ms p15-0.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (DNS error)
12 198.32.187.175 88.135 ms mae-atm-east.sbcglobal.net (DNS error) [AS226] USC/Information Sciences Institute, regional network, Los Nettos
13 151.164.243.21 87.635 ms bb1-p14-0.hrndva.sbcglobal.net [AS7132] Southwestern Bell Internet Serivces
14 151.164.243.193 117.623 ms bb1-p11-0.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [AS7132] Southwestern Bell Internet Serivces
15 151.164.241.185 133.389 ms DNS error [AS7132] Southwestern Bell Internet Serivces
16 151.164.17.229 134.669 ms ded2-fa0-1-0.snantx.swbell.net [AS7132] Southwestern Bell Internet Serivces
17 151.164.19.174 95.43 ms vip-rackspace-com-cust-998710.cust-rtr.swbell.net [AS7132] Southwestern Bell Internet Serivces
18 64.39.2.33 94.117 ms vl130.aggr1.sat.rackspace.com (DNS error) [AS10532] Rackspace.com
19 209.61.186.226 94.544 ms gnx-servers.com [AS10532] Rackspace.com
freakysid
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Originally posted by truelight
(You don't want to click that link)
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Saying something like that is really silly! It's like saying to a kid, "You don't want to go into that room..". You just know what they are going to do...
And to be fair, I wish I hadn't clicked! The last time I saw that was bad enough...
weirdbeardmt
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They're also stealing bandwidth for their images...:
Code:
<img height="67" alt="Author" hspace="15"
src="http://www.SitePoint.com/graphics/v2/heads/matt.jpg"
width="56" align="right" border="0">
mmj
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Originally posted by mmj
They're also stealing bandwidth for their images...:
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<img height="67" alt="Author" hspace="15"
src="http://www.SitePoint.com/graphics/v2/heads/matt.jpg"
width="56" align="right" border="0">
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Excellent! I suggest you do the old trick that is used over at somethingawful when people are stealing bandwidth in this fashion:
Change the picture to the goatse man, or equally disgusting picture.
[edit: advisor justifyingly removed link fo goatse, so I changed it into it's name instead. Most people know what page I'm taling about anyway - and if you don't - consider yourself lucky.]
M. Johansson
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Originally posted by weirdbeardmt
You'd think this was a violation of their TOS somewhere.
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yer, it is
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GnxOnline do not allow any of the following content to be stored on its servers:
Illegal Material or Material - Includes copyrighted works, commercial audio, warez,video, or music files, audio streaming ,"file dumping" and any material in violation of any Federal, State or Local regulation.
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iTec
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It's down now, just a dir listing
Eric.Coleman
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It got taken down for a 2nd time... I never did receive a reply from the owner of the site though.
Matt Mickiewicz
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unreal....
It appears that the ste's contact person is now a Mr Guan Li, instead of Mr. Javan Boodoosingh, now. Is he playing a little switcheroo on his name? hmmm.
Sketch
Technosailor
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They even have the arrogance to print "Copyright 2001, All Rights Reserved" at the bottom. Well this is true, but not for him evidently...
weirdbeardmt
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
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Originally posted by jkcity
It looks like that site is just a bunch of affilate links now,
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yer but even there stolen
iTec
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
Is this site still up with SitePoint content?
Mark T.
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It was down but it is back now. IT has more articles than ever and even has articles from Jim Daniels on the site now.
Hierophant
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Originally posted by Matt Mickiewicz
They're down!
I wonder where the new site came from (original or stolen?)
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Hey Matt,
did I miss something? The site is still online and it has a lot of SP articles.
How to find 1000's of sites to exchange links with
by Matt Mickiewicz
Marketing Through The Media
by Matt Mickiewicz
Turn Your Autoresponder into a Lead Generator
by Matt Mickiewicz
Paul S
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I see a Freaky Freddy's page up there now..
Matt, send them and their host a nice legalese letter!
Sparkie
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I cant be responsible if you choose to destroy this site
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Originally posted by iTec
yer, or he could see that we are on to him and get scared and take the site down.
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I thought that the intended outcome of this thread? As Matt said, suing them isn't going to happen seeing as how they blatantly have no money. And there is pretty much nothing that can be done to stop him doing it again with someone elses site.
It is just a shame that the host doesn't seem to care. You'd think this was a violation of their TOS somewhere.
weirdbeardmt
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