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Updated: 2008-08-20 00:39:55 (11)
Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

is thier anything that competes or even betters its performance at this price level(?2000-2500)

Answers: Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21 ( AVForums Integrated AV Amplifiers Receivers )
Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

Well it really depends on what you after the Denon AV11XVA is one of the home cinema machines that is difficult to beat.

http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_m...detail&Pid=271

? Power is sufficient for most homes and applications
? 1080P switching
? programmable remote control with backlight (very handy for home cinema)
? auto setup

7oaks do occasionally both models -> you could try to demo them side by side. Just dependents were you live.

jensK

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

thanks for that howmuch is the denon. i am mainly looking for sound quality espiacially for music how is the denon for music? is it better than the primare in that area.

krishen

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

Around 2500?, but on a good day .....

Well it is an AV amp and therefore an moviemachine and one of the best ones available.


Music: it is not an dedicated music amp, but I rate it pretty high there as well.

jensK

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

how would u compare its music capabilities to the primare is there any other amps around. also do u think a procceser + multichannel power amp would be to much for my monitor audio RS6AV

krishen

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

One question first. How much are you going to use it for music % / AV % ?

I think the Primare or the Denon AV11 are both good enough for the MA RS6AV and I would have thought that a pre-power amp combo would set you back at least 3K,but more likely much more than that.

Other amps? There are a couple of others to consider as well
Marantz SR9600 AV Receiver

Meridian G51 Receiver
Onkyo TXNR5000E AV Receiver

Pioneer VSXAX10Vi AV Receiver (some think itís a little bit aged, but still good as an amp)

Rotel RSP1098 Surround Receiver
Yamaha DSP Z9 (some think itís a little bit aged, but still good as an amp)

jensK

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

tbh for music, that Primare AV amp takes some beating.....i've heard the top flight Denon and for musical purposes the Primare won.....but for movies, it just doesnt have the necessary gadgetry to cope against more dedicated movie machines such as Denon or Yamaha....at the same price or more...i dunno about the pre/power combos of other manufacturers as i've only really heard the Arcams in any proper way....

cant remember now if the Primare has ext inputs, if it does, how about buying the Primare for music purposes, but add a dedicated processor for the movie stuff?......if it doesnt have ext inputs, ignore me...lol

Knyght_byte

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by jensK
Rotel RSP1098 Surround Receiver
The Rotel is a processor and needs a separate power amp.

sdb123

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by krishen
is thier anything that competes or even betters its performance at this price level(?2000-2500)
the spa21 is at the top rankings in his class. HT as well as stereo are top class. The only competitor I can think of that will be a tight finish HT and stereo is the Arcam AVR350.

Hifi addict

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

thanks for the replies, how much do u think i could pick up the arcam AV8/P7 combo for and how would that compare with the primare would thier be alot of difference i am mainly looking for better music quality.

krishen

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

I am picking my Denon AVC-A11XVA up next week. I will replace my Tag AV32R as a movie processor (I will use my Tag Amps instead of the Denon's amplification).

Having heard this product and several others (not the SPA21 though), I can say that with movies, it is quite outstanding. It brings out a level of detail from soundtracks that I have never heard from my existing processor. In addition the Audyssey auto setup and room calibration is a great bonus, as few of us have acoustically neutral rooms. You need to look at £4K plus for a preamp/processor for microphone assisted calibration. My view is that today's bunch of processors underperform and are vastly overpriced.

As was mentioned above you REALLY need 3890 to demo a product before you especially at this price level. I have personally never liked the AV8/P7combination, but again listen before you buy.

Hifi addict

Anything that competes with Primare Spa 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by krishen
thanks for the replies, how much do u think i could pick up the arcam AV8/P7 combo for and how would that compare with the primare would thier be alot of difference i am mainly looking for better music quality.
the AV8/P7 (2nd hand) should sell a bit above the SPA 21 (new) and they outperform the spa21 both in HT and stereo and in grip on your speakers.

Hifi addict

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