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Updated: 2008-02-23 18:03:28 (239)
Crazy man tweak

I just put my TCP/IP protocol driver on my ramdisk (tcpip.sys) edited the nesaccary registry values and woot the net is faster as a result but beware this is for CRAZZY people only

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Crazy man tweak

C: WinME OS (fat32), D: WinME progs (fat32), E: W2K OS (ntfs), F: Files (fat32), G: Files (ntfs), H: Files (ntfs), I: w2k progs (ntfs)

I tried the full setup (.cmd...snap-in...re-boot...followed by...BSOD ...IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL...)


ASenna

Crazy man tweak

Lance,

Here's my bat...

@echo on

copy e:\winnt\System32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys Z:\
copy e:\winnt\System32\DRIVERS\afd.sys Z:\

net start afd
net start tcpip
net start dhcp

ipconfig

@pause

Nothing but strike outs with this one.


ASenna

Crazy man tweak

so you run windows from the E: ????? and the ramdisk is on the Z: ???? what is your C:?

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Paste what's in your bat file please

cablenut

Crazy man tweak

Lance,

I went back in and re-checked everything for at least the sixth time and no luck.

Mr. 'puter's face turns bright when tcpip.sys starts to load.

ASenna

Crazy man tweak

Lance,

I am in .bat mode on both 'puters. I have not made the switch to .cmd on either one yet.



still

ASenna

Crazy man tweak

so you would have the .bat in your startup then.... can you take a second look at your reg and make sure you set both the Tcpip and the AFD to the \??\R: ( or whatever you set the RD to)
aslo doublecheck the settings you put in the reg for the RD , it is too easy to hit a key and not realize it, so by some freak accident something may not be correct

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by ASenna
Lance,

I have followed your steps exactly and what works for my W2K sp2 laptop does not work for my W2K sp2 desktop. I am treated to the very lovely BSOD when the desktop goes to load tcpip.sys and I get the same error messages that a couple of other w2k users have reported here also.

I'm gonna do some comparisons here between lil' puter and Mr. 'puter.

Keep in mind that you have PCMCIA in a laptop and that they will also neet to start. Thiers is your differnce. if your running the added plugin/snapin with the win2k ramdisk it should all start together.. without; you probably will get BSOD's on the laptop..

Let us know

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

odd, I gotta ask.........did you reboot after the BAT before making the CMD? and did you change the CMD file location like you were supposed to do?

jsut a few things that I can see being oversights

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Lance,

I have followed your steps exactly and what works for my W2K sp2 laptop does not work for my W2K sp2 desktop. I am treated to the very lovely BSOD when the desktop goes to load tcpip.sys and I get the same error messages that a couple of other w2k users have reported here also.

I'm gonna do some comparisons here between lil' puter and Mr. 'puter.


ASenna

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by ASenna
I'm another W2K user who's tried setting up Ramdisk for tcp/ip as per the recomendations here and only has seen a BSOD for my troubles.

It is great concept, but for me, it's still a concept.

I'll keep watching 'til someone comes up with a solution.
As lance posted its already been weeded through
here http://www.broadbandnuts.com/ramdisk.shtml Based on everything that Cablenut Philip Donald_K and myself have done on this.

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

for 2K it is done and works great if you can follow instructions not rippin on ya just lettin ya know

there is a link above and one in my sig

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Idiot Savant
Its a shame the win98 one isnt nearly as clean cut, or pieced together. Also the fact that its for DIAL UP.... dann itd be cool if you made one for 98 that showed WHICH drivers you needed and a step-by-step It took me awhile to sift through posts till I figured out how to make mine.
I dont remember but I did sift through it for 98 almost 2 weeks ago here bud http://www.broadbandnuts.com/ramdrive9x.shtml

The only differnce is
copy c:\windows\system\vudp386.bak X:\vupd.386
make it reflect this
"rem copy c:\windows\system\vudp386.bak X:\vupd.386"
and the same with this
copy c:\windows\system\wshtcp.bak X:\wshtcp.vxd
Personally I have all the drivers running on my win98 and SE box's and the win2k ramdisk as well they run great

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

I'm another W2K user who's tried setting up Ramdisk for tcp/ip as per the recomendations here and only has seen a BSOD for my troubles.

It is great concept, but for me, it's still a concept.

I'll keep watching 'til someone comes up with a solution.

ASenna

Crazy man tweak

JonG is cooking up something and I'm not sure exactly what it is

cablenut

Crazy man tweak

As promised
http://www.broadbandnuts.com/ramdisk.shtml
With new stuff in it to make things that start up with windows 2k work like Zone alarm and such

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

it is sooooooo nice

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Dannjr-

I'll wait for the second half to be safe

Thought I told you to go to bed

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by lance
Dannjr-

I'll wait for the second half to be safe

Thought I told you to go to bed
Lance I have your fix

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

ok Ramdisk works

but NSLI won't load now, I had it on start up, so how do you get the start up proggies to load?




it was the only thing i had on start up besides ICQ, but ICQ started up fine

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by lance
ok Ramdisk works

but NSLI won't load now, I had it on start up, so how do you get the start up proggies to load?




it was the only thing i had on start up besides ICQ, but ICQ started up fine
Theirs a second half or you can pull the start files of the proggys and have the .BAT start em but it will be tricky

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by darkreign
it wokrs okay but i was wondering why it did that
i just rem net start netbt
rem net start dhcp ... it still works...
do i need dhcp ?
If your only running Tcp/ip and are assigned a IP it will still work DHCP is where the machine has to go out to a server and get a IP netbit is for your LAN basically


Enjoy

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Anyone know optimal settings for a USB ethernet adapter (@home) ? I dont have an ethernet card and im strapped for $$ so I hope u ppl would possibly know these values as well. they are:

Level for debug messages: 0
Max Transmits: 30
Max TX Frame Size: 1,514
Min Recieve Buffers: 40
NetworkAddress(LAA): Not Present
Num of USB Rcv Buffs: 30
Recieve Buffer Size: 1,514
TX Plug Buffer Size: 4,096
Unplug/Plug on init: YES
USB F/W Replug Delay: 5
USB Read ConCat Delay: 1


Do these sound good? Thnx 4 any help.

Idiot Savant

Crazy man tweak

it wokrs okay but i was wondering why it did that
i just rem net start netbt
rem net start dhcp ... it still works...
do i need dhcp ?

darkreign

Crazy man tweak

Looks fine Dark nothing wrong. Unless things aren't working

cablenut

Crazy man tweak

here's what it says when windows starts up
---------
E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\tweaks>net start afd

The AFD Networking Support Environment service was started successfully.


E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\tweaks>net start netbt
The requested service has already been started.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2182.


E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\tweaks>net start dhcp
The DHCP Client service is starting.
The DHCP Client service was started successfully.


E:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\tweaks>net start tcpip
The requested service has already been started.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2182.
-------
any ideas? should i turn off 'net start netbt' and 'net start tcpip'?

thanks...
Kyriacos Souroullas

darkreign

Crazy man tweak

Good luck and buy batteries

Lobo

Crazy man tweak

well, lobo I will do my best

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

well I am back up after a reformatt, the reason was unrelated to any of this. Just thought of a better way to run my system

So now I am ready to try the Ramdisk

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by darkreign
excuse my ignorance
but what web page tweak are you talking about ?

thanks
Kyriacos Souroullas

Web Patch - faster loading of Web Pages
from this page http://www.speedguide.net/Cable_mode..._patches.shtml

and heres the download for win98 http://www.speedguide.net/files/PH_Webtweak9x.zip

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

I havent noticed much latency drop, only that the ping NEVER fluctuates... hovering about 5-10ms lower but never going 20ms higher than previous pings... even on madly spiking servers (many people are jealous ). Also, on a website (Navas Cable Tuning Guide) they "prove" (Im in no position to disagree) that the system.ini tweak and TTL have no effect on speed. In that case, I just want to know I have my cable as fast as it will go.

Status: @Home COM21 - @Home USB Ethernet Adapter

MTU: 1500
MSS: 1460
RCVWIN: 256960
PMTUDisco: ON
PMTUBlackhole: OFF
BSDUrgent: ON
Windows Scaling: ON
TTL: 64
TCP1323: 1
SackOpts: 1
MaxDupAcks: 3
MaxServerConnects: 16

RamDrive TCP-IP Enabled
Proxy Server Disabled
System.ini Ram Allocation Disabled

Is this as fast as it gets?
Thanx to all the ur33t gurus in advance

Idiot Savant

Crazy man tweak

excuse my ignorance
but what web page tweak are you talking about ?

thanks
Kyriacos Souroullas

darkreign

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Idiot Savant
Ahh, thnx for the link. :\

Your .BAT works just great

Anything else I could drop in to RamDrive to speed up my internet?

B4 this tweak I my com21 normally d/l'd at anywhere from 160kb/s to 280kb/s. Ping times on CS servers ran from 46-112. Havent been online to compare these to the new setting stats, I was in a rush to thank ye
Well were's the stats hehehe great to hear

Lance I went I saw I posted

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by darkreign
thanks!
i cant begin to thank you enough... the tweak is great!
i havent been running it for long, but it kicks ass...
the web pages here in the forum load up like they are local or so...
im on a 56k ... and that makes a difference... i tried speedtests before and after... the same unfortunately ... but i've noticed a significant increase in the loading time of the web sites...

so thanks again,
Kyriacos Souroullas
Try installing the web page tweak but change the numbers in it Windows default is 4 try it at a Max of 8 It's easy enough to edit.
Glad the its working good for you...

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

@ Dannjr
I got the commandline from here: http://www.speedcorp.net/guides/ramdrive/

And for the memory management. Just as i said: I guess the tweak could only offer you an advantage, if you have a very small amount of mem. If you have an average amount of 256 MB or even more there won't be any swapping of drivers from memory to harddrive and back - at least not, if you don't let windooze manage your swapfile as no real tweak-nerd would ever do.

Eike

Crazy man tweak

Eike
Actually it does swap even with a large amount I checked for that about a week ago and it was with 196 meg and here is the weird part I have been using the one for win98 on that same machine connected up to the web and completely forgot to update the vtcp.386 and it surfe and downloaded great...
It even opened the BB here with no problem and my site is known for not wanting to open at times and it got to there to...
So go figure..
The other thing to is if I can keep my Hard Drive from having to run through a couple of extra prosessessess isn't it worth not beating it up and wearing it out..

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

@ Dannjr
-----------------
Quote: Actually it does swap even with a large amount I checked for that about a week ago ....
-----------------

This only happens, if your system is not configuered the "right way". Here is what you have to do:
1. After defragmentation of your harddisk, create a static swapfile. For that manner you define the minimum and the maximum size of your virtual memory at exactly the same size. With your amount of memory use e.g. 128 MB min & max. You will have to reboot to take affect.

2. Back in Windows open your system.ini go to the [386Enh]-section and look for an entry "ConservativeSwapfileUsage". If there is none, create it and set it to 1.
Would be look like:
ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1
Attention: For same strange and unknown reasons this tweak needs a blank line after it on some systems. Not on mine, but it is reported over and over on the tweak-boards, so just to be save do it this way:
....
ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1

"next entry"
...
Now reboot

3. Your are done! Your system won't use virtuell memory any more. There won't be any swapping at all, neither of your network-drivers nor anything else!!! And for that manner no reason to create the ramdrive.
Btw: this no-swapping-tweak is not only usefull for your surfing-needs but great for your gaming-experience. ;-)

Eike

Crazy man tweak

Thought I'd share this with you all. This did lower my ping slightly.

xmsdsk [1024] Z: [/y]

path=Z:\;%PATH%
rename c:\win98\system\ndis.vxd ndisvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\ndisvxd.bak z:\ndis.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vtcp.386 vtcp386.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vtcp386.bak z:\vtcp.386
rename c:\win98\system\vudp.386 vudp386.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vudp386.bak z:\vupd.386
rename c:\win98\system\mstcp.dll mstcpdll.bak
copy c:\win98\system\mstcpdll.bak z:\mstcp.dll
rename c:\win98\system\wshtcp.vxd wshtcp.bak
copy c:\win98\system\wshtcp.bak z:\wshtcp.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\wsock.vxd wsockvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\wsockvxd.bak z:\wsock.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\wsock2.vxd wsock2.bak
copy c:\win98\system\wsock2.bak z:\wsock2.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vnetsup.vxd vnetsupvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vnetsupvxd.bak z:\vnetsup.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\ndis2sup.vxd ndis2supvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\ndis2supvxd.bak z:\ndis2sup.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vredir.vxd vredirvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vredirvxd.bak z:\vredir.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\dfs.vxd dfsvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\dfsvxd.bak z:\dfs.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vnetbios.vxd vnetbiosvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vnetbiosvxd.bak z:\vnetbios.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vserver.vxd vservervxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vservervxd.bak z:\vserver.vxd
@pause

mrloc

Crazy man tweak

Eike,

I'm running W2K and I have 128megs of RAM (I intend on adding another 256megs soon) and my swap file size is set to 192megs.


I know very little about swap files. I have some questions.

1.) I'm not sure but I think they (swap files) are a file on the hard drive which is allocated as a type of psuedo additional RAM in the event the existing RAM is exceeded?

2.) Windows 2000 uses virtual memory which causes it to go to the hard drive before my 128m is exceeded?

3.) If I use your tweak, my hard drive will not run (unless I save something)?

4.) If I do something memory intensive (like scan a high resolution picture) and exceed the 128meg will my machine lock up or will everything be written to the hard drive and the scanning will continue?

P.S.
Eventually I intend on running 768megs.

dmsmed

Crazy man tweak

Hi dmsmed,
sorry to disappointed you, but this tweak is only intended for win98 and win98se.
For win95 conservativeswapfileusage is already default, all you need at this OS is a static swap-file.

But do not use this tweak for W2k - i don't run this OS, but i am sure, that the management of W2k's virtuell memory is way different from that of win98 because of the NT-Kernel W2k own!

@ all
On win98-systems at default the virtuell-memory aka swapping at the hdd starts way before your physical ram comes to an end.
That is why somebody who does not tweak his OS may see some slight decrease of latency with the ram-drive-tweak this thread is about: at default win98 may swap the ndis.vxd and the other driver to the harddrive and back to memory when needed.
But with the conservativswapfileuse-tweak and a static swap-file (min = max of virtuell memory) there is no swapping at all, neither drivers nor anything else - your hdd will never been touched by something already loaded in memory - until your physical ram come to an end - something that rarely happens with 256 MB or more RAM unless you are doing some serious picture-editing with photo-shop etc.
But with ordinary use of office-programms, surfing, e-mailing, online-gaming you won't use virtuell memory ever. That is why the ramdrive-tweak is a nice idea, but not needed, if you set your OS correct. Further more the conservativswapfileusagetweak does everything that the ramdrive-tweak can do AND has way more advantages for overall performance of your system.

Eike

Crazy man tweak

Eike,

What is the solution for W2K, should I simply slap in more memory and the OS will do the rest?

dmsmed

Crazy man tweak

dmsmed
Your fine just the way you are when you add the 256 meg then up the swap amount in win2k...
128meg is all you need with win2k to run.. I have a K6 2 500 with 96meg in it and it never has to be rebooted unless I'm testing with it...
Remember the ramdisk only uses 1 meg unless you make it bigger...
My main win2k machine and my server both have 512meg of memory in them, and a maximum swap size of 2048meg Thats just how I need it right now...
Besides win2k manages memory a whole bunch better than win98 or winME

Discover
The fact that you went back to win98 is probably better anyway at least you can mess with it more than winme, its to bad that you had to go through all that...
As far as the Temp folder your gonna Im looking into it more now.. I saw something different than the norm for running the temp folder up there, and it required more memory...

mrloc
Cool lookin script I wish I had time to add it right now...
Anyone reading it look close it defaults to a directory called win98 so if you add a line to it you need to change that to read c:\windows instead of c:\win98
But cool maybe I'll get some time tomarrow..

Since theres a question about it
Here you go, not that this is on topic, For win9x only...
http://www.speedguide.net/Windows/win_perform.shtml

Plus another one thats been up for months...
http://www.student.ipfw.edu/~gottjl01/tweak.htm
ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 on this page...

I put the links above because I feel they will help lesson confusion... Peace

[ 03-06-2001: Message edited by: dannjr ]

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Micro,
Thanks for offering to email the files. I never received them tho... I went ahead and reinstalled the OS's. I was able to get Me installed without losing Microsoft Office this time. On my other computer I just started all over and went back to Win 98. Boy it sure runs smoother than Me! Boots faster too! When I have the time I may put 98 on the HP machine and get rid of all Me!

Thanks agaimn for the help.
Ramdisk on one machine running fairly well!

Discover

Crazy man tweak

To fellow Ramdisk users,

I have been running the Ramdisk tweak for myu Netscape browser and it has worked well for a few weeks now.

I do have a problem trying to set my Temp files to the Ramdisk tho.

Download Accelerator hangs up when setting the temp files. Anyone had this problem?

Currently I have rem the set script in Autoexec as follows:

rem SET TMP=F:\TEMP
rem SET TEMP=F:\TEMP

I had followed the tweak here and had tried to incorporate the tweek at speedguide http://www.speedcorp.net/guides/ramdrive/

which shows how to put your IE cache and Explorer cache on the ramdisk.

I haven't gotton those last 2 items to work yet..Also I am running netscape.

Anybody running the explorer in cache?

Discover

Crazy man tweak

Whenever I edit the registry keys for the RamDiskNT application, such as the sharewarekey value, it always changes back after a reboot. Is there something i'm doing wrong here?

Defiant

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Defiant:
Whenever I edit the registry keys for the RamDiskNT application, such as the sharewarekey value, it always changes back after a reboot. Is there something i'm doing wrong here?
What OS(Operat.. system) are you using....
If this is win2k go to page 3 where it was changed over to the Microsoft Ramdisk it works so much better...
If this is win98 go to page 7 of this thread. The changed prosssessss is so much better and more stable.. At least to me with windows than using the RamDiskNT with less problems..

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Thanks for the reply, I'm running Windows 2000 pro...i tried downloading ramdisk, but the link seems to be down for me, do you have another link to that file?

Defiant

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Defiant:
Thanks for the reply, I'm running Windows 2000 pro...i tried downloading ramdisk, but the link seems to be down for me, do you have another link to that file?
I'll see if I can dig it up lookin..

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...US/Ramdisk.exe its a live download link from MS not a page hope it works for you it worked for me

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

I tried the link, when I click it a blank page pops up, and when I right click to save target as, it says that the file could not be found. I guess it doesn't work for me...
if there aren't any other links could someone please e-mail it to me? My e-mail address is swu2@socal.rr.com. Thanks.

Defiant

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Defiant:
I tried the link, when I click it a blank page pops up, and when I right click to save target as, it says that the file could not be found. I guess it doesn't work for me...
if there aren't any other links could someone please e-mail it to me? My e-mail address is swu2@socal.rr.com. Thanks.
Its sent and you should be getting it right now....
Make sure you read through a few pages after the start of the Microsoft Ramdisk there was a couple of problems that got worked out along the way you might want to check out.. Works good....

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

dannjr , Good work man

~X~

Xzaver

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Xzaver:
dannjr , Good work man

~X~
Thanks but it wasn't just me its been
Philip, Cablenut, JonG, and a few others that have mde this work...


Thanks again
Dan

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

thanks for the tweak, i am currently using it and everything is a little bit faster, but i do not notice extreme speeds, just a little. but the loading when you startup is a pain in the ass.



Crazy man tweak

Norton will still scan your email, the pause you set for Zone Alarm is causing Norton to not initialize your email protection. Try enabling the email protection after everything boots.

mnosteele52

Crazy man tweak

You are right it is old, but I went to another Forum and told some guys that you could load your TCP/IP in a RAMdisk and they thought I was SCREWED UP!!

ALso what is good here is the discussion factors because you can see what problems people had and how they fixed them.



Crazy man tweak

Its a shame the win98 one isnt nearly as clean cut, or pieced together. Also the fact that its for DIAL UP.... dann itd be cool if you made one for 98 that showed WHICH drivers you needed and a step-by-step It took me awhile to sift through posts till I figured out how to make mine.

Idiot Savant

Crazy man tweak

Ok, I'm a bit confused here....

15 (!) pages of replies, and yes, I read through them, but I still am not sure what's the right thing(s) to do.

Is there anyway someone who has done this successfully could start a new thread with the specifics?

In particular, notes for Zone Alarm, and running behind a Linksys router (which is sometimes hooked up and sometimes not).

tia,

ct

BrNz

Crazy man tweak

I just wanted to thank cablenut for this smokin' tweak! Very rarely do you actually find a tweak that truly does what people says it does. It take a lil' bit of work (took me 3 mins) but it is well worth it!

Pages are loading as if their cached!! This is one awesome tweak if your on Win2k.

O ya... I regged JUST to thank ya

BrNz

Crazy man tweak


cablenut

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by tafkact:
Ok, I'm a bit confused here....

ct
If you go about 11 post back in this thread it tells you what pages to use..
Also with Zone Alarm I got it to work fine with it.. But never heard anything more on it..
As far as compiling info into one easy to follow page it is being worked on.. Just in spare time..

How files get corrupt

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

OK, I've done it for Win98SE and Cable. Here's how....
First, in autoexec.bat:
XMSDSK 2048 H: /y
PATH=H:\;%PATH%
Copy C:\Backup\Net H:\
I am using XMSdisk RAMDisk utility from the Axcel website because I can assign a drive letter to the Ramdrive. I made the drive 2 Megs.
Next, I assigned an alternate path command for the missing files that I will put on the Ramdrive.
The third line is the present location of the driver files. This way, I have them in a place where if all else fails, I can easily restore them to the Windows\System folder, and in this backup folder, they are no longer in my path.
Now, to find the required files, I went to System Properties\Device Manager\Network Adapters\my NIC card\PropertiesDriver\Driver Details\



Next, I cut and pasted all the vxd and 386 files from my Windows\System folder to my Backup\Net folder.





Finally, I restarted and so far everything works OK. As for speed increase, well I am still colatting, but looks like an increase of about 20%.

The following is a direct download link for xmsdsk.exe:
http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/stori...,,000AZ4,.html

[ 03-25-2001: Message edited by: dvblsd ]

dvblsd

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by cablenut:
In Windows 2000 what controls all TCP/IP functions is a service called TCPIP now that service is the file tcpip.sys I have made a ramdisk with a bootable image file with the tcpip.sys file on it and have edited my registry to reflect where that tcpip.sys drive is. Since RAM has very much lower latencies then hard disks this speeds up the net cause it can access the protcol driver very fast.
How would you do that on windows me?

Steve12345

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve12345:
How would you do that on windows me?
Around page 11 of this thread I said it couldnt be done then said it could. Dont do this to your WinME... Just a friendly warning no one has been able to get it to work as of yet in that OS without problems..

The first thing you have to do is hack out the registry and the boot kernal so that the new info in the autoexec.bat doesn't get erased.
Then you have to get past the memory managment of ME thats a pain..
Now if you hae the patients and know how to get past the first part then have fun...
I don't suggest it..

Just my opinion...

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

dvblsd
I wish I had some time to try that right now its a great looking concept... Maybe toward the end of the week I can get to play..
Thanks
Dan

dannjr

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Will you fill up your ram if you use that instead of the hard disc?

Steve12345

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from what i can tell, no - you won't

just he 2mb or so, whatever you've set aside for it in the ramdisk and registry

but i still dunno it all about this "tweak"

gonna play w/it on my next install of win2k later this week (this one's FRIED and there's really no fix)

Piggyson

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Has anyone experienced any problems with running the tweak in Windows 2000 and having computers on your network not showing up in 'Network neighborhood?'
I can connect to the internet fine, just can't see other cpu's in my network, and file sharing through ICQ is a Pain Any Solutions/ideas would be appreciated.


thanks in advance.

-Piggyson-

Piggyson

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Piggyson
I found that not all vxd files will work this way. AS well, inf's will cause problems and some dll's. If you have a problem,replace one file, reboot, and try again.

[ 03-25-2001: Message edited by: dvblsd ]

dvblsd

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Has anyone tried this RAMDisk program?
http://www.jlajoie.com/

dmsmed

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve12345:
Will you fill up your ram if you use that instead of the hard disc?
No in fact it will help the RAM in that your only using 1 to 2 meg and not swaping back and forth its saving on the harddisk, and not having to peak to the top of the memory everytime its swaped out off the hard drive.
It acually freed up memory read the tread back where I tested this on a old laptop with minimul resoureces...
My memory usage went down from about 11% free to 23% free or more

dannjr

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Piggyson
Are you using file sharing in win2k with TCP/IP only if you are then try implimenting NETBEUI for file sharing on the LAN this works well esp. If your runing a layered network like I do it keeps the network seperate
Also if you did a search for the the missing machine in you network it should show up..
With that in mind you could run the path to that machine to have it connect everytime it boots if your running a file server locally..

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by dmsmed:
Has anyone tried this RAMDisk program?
http://www.jlajoie.com/
Its just a new updated version of the original used with win2k on the first pages of this thread
The object was to get the ramdisk to run. Then the object turned to do it for free. Using MS software or an equivilent of free ware. If you want to use that its fine you will also tye up more memory than you need to

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Better later than never:
REMEMBER BATCH 101, course titled: EFFICIENCY ?

BEFORE
===========================================
xmsdsk [1024] Z: [/y]

path=Z:\;%PATH%
rename c:\win98\system\ndis.vxd ndisvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\ndisvxd.bak z:\ndis.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vtcp.386 vtcp386.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vtcp386.bak z:\vtcp.386
rename c:\win98\system\vudp.386 vudp386.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vudp386.bak z:\vupd.386
rename c:\win98\system\mstcp.dll mstcpdll.bak
copy c:\win98\system\mstcpdll.bak z:\mstcp.dll
rename c:\win98\system\wshtcp.vxd wshtcp.bak
copy c:\win98\system\wshtcp.bak z:\wshtcp.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\wsock.vxd wsockvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\wsockvxd.bak z:\wsock.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\wsock2.vxd wsock2.bak
copy c:\win98\system\wsock2.bak z:\wsock2.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vnetsup.vxd vnetsupvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vnetsupvxd.bak z:\vnetsup.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\ndis2sup.vxd ndis2supvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\ndis2supvxd.bak z:\ndis2sup.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vredir.vxd vredirvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vredirvxd.bak z:\vredir.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\dfs.vxd dfsvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\dfsvxd.bak z:\dfs.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vnetbios.vxd vnetbiosvxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vnetbiosvxd.bak z:\vnetbios.vxd
rename c:\win98\system\vserver.vxd vservervxd.bak
copy c:\win98\system\vservervxd.bak z:\vserver.vxd
@pause
===========================================

AFTER
===========================================
xmsdsk [1024] Z: [/y]

path=Z:\;%PATH%
IF NOT EXIST []\ndis.vxd GOTO NEXT
CD []
MOVE /Y ndis.vxd,vtcp.386,vudp.386,mstcp.dll,wshtcp.vxd,
wsock.vxd,wsock2.vxd,vnetsup.vxd,ndis2sup.vxd,
vredir.vxd,dfs.vxd,vnetbios.vxd,vserver.vxd \TCPTWEAK
:NEXT
XCOPY32 C:\TCPTWEAK\*.* Z:\
@pause
===========================================

Just replace [] with your actual path where the files resides. To restore your system to it's previous state, just:
XCOPY32 C:\TCPTWEAK\*.* []

Next,
for those who wants to move their C:\TEMP to Z:\ (ramdrive), I strongly advise against it in the beautifull BSOD WINDOWS WORLD because if this happens (BSOD), you will lose very precious temp files that are usefull to restore some previous states when you reboot. Don't forget that a ramdrive content is lost on reboot.

[ 03-26-2001: Message edited by: BGL ]

bglspeed

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Running Windows2000 Professional Build 2195 Service Pack 1

I get the following error when trying to copy any file to the 16mb (I also tried making it 1mb also) RAMDISK:

Quote:
The volume does not contain a recognized file system.
Please make sure that all required file system drivers are loaded and that the v
olume is not corrupted.
The logical drive appears in explorere but with no information, just a Z: drive...

The Logical Disk Manager does report it as a RAMDRIVE but I can't access it or copy files to it...

If I uninstall the sample driver then re-install it will work, but when I reboot it goes back into the un-useable state.

How can I fix this?

[ 03-27-2001: Message edited by: Preston Connors ]

PrestonConnors

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for those who cant connect using win98se, try leaving the winsock files in the windows\system\ directory that worked for me

chinaboy00

Crazy man tweak

Hi guys im a newbie to this tweak....... But i tried many other tweaks like Rwin and MaxMtu changes nothing seem to really work. I see that this Ram disk change improve many people's internet performance. I kinda understand what to do but i dont want to kill my windows. Can someone please explain the whole thing to me from beginning to the end, what to do. Please, ill really appreciate it. I have 128mb ram,
Win98 SE
Thanx



Crazy man tweak

Maybe if were all real nice, the Guru Cablenut will make a patch for all OS's so it won't be so hard to do, please Cablenut,lol

Steve12345

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it's far more involved than "just make a patch"

nice idea, but i think the only "real" way to do what you suggest is to do to manually.

another way would be to write an application that would make these changes and install the ramdisk.exe, but you would have to write your own ramdisk.exe as i'm fairly sure you can't add somone else's app into your own

if somone were to put a list together of *exactly* what is needed to be done for a win2k system, and has a freeware ramdisk app, then i may be able to slap something together for win2k systems, along with an uninstall in case anything goes kablooey

the same goes for win9x systems too, but again, i'd need *specific* info

Steve12345

Crazy man tweak

I kinda figured this out i extracted the files from ram drv into the C: drive, edited the autoexec.bat file i just left default rem 153600 but the default ram disk drive in my computer is E: and i had to edit autoexec.bat and change drives from I: to E: also in my registry i had to change internet settings that guided me in readme.txt from I: to E: and after i merged cache.reg all the registry settings were back to I:, so i manually changed them again to drive E:......lol and made dir Temp and Dap in my ramdisk but my ramdisk is 695kb i wanna change the capacity and letter name, but not sure how, also i want to know if i did the right thing.
ANY HELP GUYZ?

Steve12345

Crazy man tweak

I usually just sit back in the corner and watch, but I actually did some tinkering around myself. Thanks goes out to Cablenut, Dannyjr, and the rest for their contributions to this topic and countless others. BTW I am running win98SE, with a cable modem, and cablenut's patch.

here is my autoexec.bat....
xmsdsk 2048 F: C1/ T/ /Y

PATH=F:\;%PATH%
rename c:\windows\system\ndis.vxd ndisvxd.bak
copy c:\windows\system\ndisvxd.bak F:\ndis.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vtcp.386 vtcp386.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vtcp386.bak F:\vtcp.386
rename c:\windows\system\mstcp.dll mstcpdll.bak
copy c:\windows\system\mstcpdll.bak F:\mstcp.dll
rename c:\windows\system\vtdi.386 vtdi386.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vtdi386.bak F:\vtdi.386
rename c:\windows\system\vip.386 vip386.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vip386.bak F:\vip.386
rename c:\windows\system\vnbt386.bak vnbt.386
copy c:\windows\system\vnbt386.bak F:\vnbt.386
rename c:\windows\system\vredir.vxd vredir.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vredir.bak F:\vredir.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vdhcp.386 vdhcp.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vdhcp.bak F:\vdhcp.386
rename c:\windows\system\netbios.vxd netbios.bak
copy c:\windows\system\netbios.bak F:\netbios.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vnetbios.vxd vnetbios.bak
copy c:\windows\system\vnetbios.bak F:\vnetbios.vxd

here is my restore file, all it does it take all the renamed files called *.bak to their original file name. I call it restore.bat, just open up notepad and copy this in there and name it whatever you want just make sure it ends in .bat

rename c:\windows\system\ndisvxd.bak ndis.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\ndis2sup.bak ndis2sup.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vtcp386.bak vtcp.386
rename c:\windows\system\mstcpdll.bak mstcp.dll
rename c:\windows\system\vtdi386.bak vtdi.386
rename c:\windows\system\vip386.bak vip.386
rename c:\windows\system\vnbt386.bak vnbt.386
rename c:\windows\system\vredir.bak vredir.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vdhcp.bak vdhcp.386
rename c:\windows\system\netbios.bak netbios.vxd
rename c:\windows\system\vnetbios.bak vnetbios.vxd

Since I just did this tonight, I really can not tell you if I noticed anything in speed department. Please feel free to comment on this...

Thanks,
Dr. K

Steve12345

Crazy man tweak

Sorry about that, I entered in the path wrong for the ramdisk....it should read what it typed below...

xmsdsk 2048 F: /C1 /T /Y

Dr. K

Steve12345

Crazy man tweak

is there a way to do that for windows me?

Steve12345

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve12345:
is there a way to do that for windows me?
No not safley... I don't suggest doing it in ME there are way to many problems with doing a ram disk or ram drive you have to hack out part of the registry so the autoexec.bat doesnt get reverted back by the registry..
Most cases you have to hack out the WinME kernal also...

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

This thread is a virtual "@home win98 reg patch" sorry inside joke....

cablenut

Crazy man tweak

Ok last time I promise....
There is one more thing I did that really made a difference. To be honest I was not real sure that it was doing anything, until I did this (note this only applies to those that are using the xmsdsk.exe program for this tweak.

Goto the C:\ drive where you should have put the xmsdsk.exe program

right click on it, and goto properties and then misc.

now goto the idle sensitivity and move it to low and then reboot.

Why did I do this, well according to windows the idle sensitivity does this....

"Specifies how long Windows will allow the program to remain idle (waiting for keyboard input) before reducing the central processing unit (CPU) resources allotted to the program and enabling other programs to use them.
Low idle sensitivity lets the program run longer before Windows reduces the CPU resources allotted to it. High idle sensitivity reduces the CPU resources allotted to the program sooner.
If a program that is running in the background is not getting enough CPU resources, move the slider toward Low.

If you want a program to use fewer CPU resources, move the slider toward High."

Please have at this, after you guys get done with this, you'll probably tell me it does not even do anything...

Dr. K

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Thank you Dr
I'm gonna have to sit down and give all this new stuff what looks to be good stuff the once or maybe the twice over but it looks real good.
Thanks
Dan

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Krabbe:
There is one more thing I did that really made a difference.

Goto the C:\ drive where you should have put the xmsdsk.exe program

right click on it, and goto properties and then misc.

now goto the idle sensitivity and move it to low and then reboot.

Dr. K
This tweak puzzles me. It will create a DOS program profile(With the same name as the program), which Windows automaticly looks for when running a DOS program within Windows. (If it doesn't exist Windows will create it with default values). The profile only used at program start.
But when starting the program outside Windows then the profile shouldn't be looked for. So when Windows boots the xmsdsk.exe is already started and it won't apply the profile. Or is there something I have completely misunderstood, since as you say it works for you ?

A Game

Crazy man tweak

Hello,

You know what, you might be correct. Something I also did that I neglected to mention that also could have been the reason for the speed up is that in my config.sys i had noems after my vmm386. Before I removed that it said that is was running in compatibility mode or something like that, I do not have the window open to read it right now. I just remember when I went to properties and looked at all the settings for xmsdsk it said that I needed to remove the noems to take it out of whatever it was in. Maybe it was not compatibility, i really can not remember...sorry. I can say that one of the 2 things did it for me. I will go back and put it the same way it was before and see if i notice any change.
Thanks for responding

Dr. K

A Game

Crazy man tweak

compilation of what i have learned/attempted so far:
(you can also read here: http://www.networkranch.com/cgi-bin/...c&f=3&t=000014 )
===========================================

BACK UP REGISTRY 1ST! BACK UP REGISTRY 1ST! BACK UP REGISTRY 1ST! BACK UP REGISTRY 1ST! BACK UP REGISTRY 1ST! BACK UP REGISTRY 1ST! BACK UP REGISTRY 1ST! BACK UP REGISTRY 1ST!


the origonal: http://forums.speedguide.net/cgi-bin...4&t=000006&p=3


quote:
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MS Ram Disk
1) Download this file and extract the contents somewhere.

2) The contents include source files, the sys file, and the .inf file

3) Control Panel > Add New Hardware > Choose From List > Other Device > Have Disk > Point to the inf file...

4) We then need to go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Ramdisk\Parameters

(picture)

5) ?? nothing there

6) The only thing we want to worry about is 'DiskSize' and 'DriveLetter'

7) 1MB is 1,048,576 bytes so if you wanted 2MB ramdisk you would enter a decmial value of 2,097,152. Drive letter of course means what drive letter the RamDisk makes itself.

8) So the next time we reboot our ramdisk will be whatever we made it. I made mine 1MB and Drive Letter Z:\

9) So before I rebooted I would also have to due some other things.

10) (picture)
The \??\ before the drive letter is crucial.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\AFD
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip

In those key is where the 'imagepath' key is we want to edit these to reflect where are new sys files will be on our ramdisk.

11) Now we need to make a login script to copy the needed sys files and start the services. Create a new text file and the require text is: (my logon.cmd script below)

12) Now we need to auto start the login.cmd file. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run and create a new string value name it whatever you want. Modify it to reflect where your .cmd file is you just made.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

here's what i was able to figure for the logon script, though as of right now it's untested.

--------------------------------------

@echo on

Echo Starting TCP/IP Services

copy e:\winnt\System32\DRIVERS\afd.sys z:\
copy e:\winnt\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys z:\
copy e:\winnt\System32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys z:\
net start afd
net start netbt
net start tcpip
@pause
PATH=e:\WINNT\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe -service
@pause
ipconfig
@pause

-------------------------------------------

(note that my win2k OS is on drive E, yours will/may differ)

as well as making-modifying the reg entries and adding a new device (ms-ramdrive)

i've set my ramdrive to 2MB, should be enough, we'll see

have i covered all bases here? will i be able to access the 'net when i *crash...er reboot? will ZAP still start and run correctly?

anyway - had to post this b4 i shutdown to try it out, cuz if it don't work - i can't post that it doesn't :P


*crashes on every shutdown with a "PROCESS_HAS_LOCKED_PAGES" error - but that's another problem entirely. every time i try to exit G6 or AdSubtract or a few other apps, i get that fu(*&^$ BSOD

===============================

then, a followup

===============================

ok, here's what happened:
it booted fairly fast, as normal, then ctrl-alt-del, type in login and the logon.cmd was run

hmm

in the logon.cmd window:
----------------------------
> net start netbd
The requested....has already been started

>net start TCP/IP
blah blah blah--- successfully
Press any key to continue

>E:\\pathpathpath... zonealarm....
Press any key to continue

-----------------------------------
oh, and took less than a minute for it all to load

removed the "net start netbt" entry, rebooted, and that solved that

now - i STILL couldn't get to the 'net
AND Xitami - my http server - popped up a box

"Xitmai could not open HTTP port 80 connection failed on socket ()(WSAENETDOWN)"

AND AdSubtract Pro -cookie, popup,ad killer - wouldn't start either

"AdSubtract could not start because some other app was using port 4444"

removing both of those from the start up using "startup.cpl" (available on my own site www.tafkact.cjb.net ) and rebooting solved that problem temporarily

i still could NOT access the 'net

******* me fergot how to restore the registry file i exported, so i had to go with "last known good config" on boot up, and it still ran the logon.cmd, loaded et al into the ram drive and here i am.

ok, so what did i screw up? and how do i kill the "press any key to continue prompt? - remove the "@pause"?


i'd like to get this to work...

[ 04-05-2001: Message edited by: tafkact ]

A Game

Crazy man tweak

Cablenut, can you help me get that tweak that you discovered? help me to get it work, could it mess up my comp? please help me!

A Game

Crazy man tweak

yo im just wondern how do i get the ramdisk installed i got win98se and i cant get the thing installed why is this?

A Game

Crazy man tweak

tafkact
I have to ask what are you using on C: and D: if win2k is on E: I thought I was the crazy one no I'm not knocking you. But you just went one beyond me with that one..
Not that I havent done multiple OS on a machine... Smile you could be trying all this on a k6 2 233 or P133mmx

Anyway I run http server and ftp and proxy with a router. All with this tweak, with know problem. But in order for me to get it to go I removed all the apps, and consentrated on win2k and Tcp/ip first and AFD with DHCP first. Not nessssarly in that order. Once all that was working. Then I worried about the 2nd-ary & 3rd party progy's..
You need to establish the connections before you can do anything else.. Even in large area networks the connections are only second to the OS in priority related connects.(theres a better word for it but its been a long week and Comdex wiped me out)
Definetly run the .BAT file config...

On other news with this it is being compiled and one way or another it will be on a web page with all the pertinat info.. but with all the info in here and other places.. and there is allot... In here alone there is at least 20 pertinent entries to make this works right.

Please keep this up to date on how you get it to go..

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

what do you mean by What am i using on C: or D: drive? do you mean which one i am using?

A Game

Crazy man tweak

Quote:
Originally posted by A Game:
yo im just wondern how do i get the ramdisk installed i got win98se and i cant get the thing installed why is this?
In win98 your not using the ramdisk your using Ramdrive two differnt animals with the same type of results... Look up the entries on the pages that Jong posted first about the Ramdrive then look up my post where I did it on the Laptop and start out doing it that way... It works good...

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

will i kind of get it but what am i puting what in to what

A Game

Crazy man tweak

If I knew what all this meant, i would be so happy. I am trying to optimize my connection, but have no clue of how to do it. So, if you can help me...please do so.

lance-tek

Crazy man tweak

Hey I just got my cable modem a couple of days ago and I am running Windows 2000. I was amazed when I saw this string and wish if you guys could explain it to me since I am fairly new to tweaking. IF not on the board, feel free to email me at dacrazyboy2k@hotmail.com
Thanx you guys.

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

A Game and lance
What can I tell you I can't even tell you what pages to look at cause I don't know your Operasting Systems...
Thers allot here and don't bother if its WinME it turns into problems..
If you have WinME and find away to make it work safe tell me so...



dacrazyboy2k
Start out with page 3, and work your way through to past Donald_ks posts. Use the .BAT files instead of the command file set in the registry to start it up.. Philip and Donald_k have the Bat files down the registry is correct on page 3 along with the install of the Ramdisk.. I used Z: as the default drive myself, in Win2k...

dannjr

Crazy man tweak

Is there anywhere to get a complete list of all of the modifications to install this tweak?

dmsmed

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