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Updated: 2009-06-04 05:15:48 (15)
Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/20/fa...les-next-year/

HUZZAH! *does a little dance*
 

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Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

I actually thought Bethesda did a great job with it. Shame.
 

Bullet2head

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

From my understanding Bethesda isn't handing the project over in its entirety. It sounds like they're looking for a studio partner to help with the development.
 

viperjo

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

Uh, the most important thing to remember is that Obsidian hasn't released a game yet that didn't get panned as being horribly incomplete or full of bugs. They either have a non-existant Q&A dept, or they're rushing every product out the door.

The games all have big promise and ideas, but typically fail to do the little, ordinary things right.

NWN2: This game may be worth playing in about a year’s time when Obsidian has finished patching this clunky monstrosity, but right now, it’s a strictly average affair.

KOTOR2: A really good RPG, but only if you’re part of the lucky minority that can run the game with none of the huge technical problems everyone else is suffering from.

I had high hopes for the studio when it was founded, but they haven't impressed me with anything yet.
 

Redcloak

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

I thought Bethesda did a great job of giving many people, fans and FO newbies alike, exactly what they wanted.

I don't like this. FO2 already dealt with a city of vice and did it damn well. I don't want to see New Reno packaged, fluffed out, and fitted with 3D graphics.
 

Mike

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

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Originally Posted by Redcloak
Uh, the most important thing to remember is that Obsidian hasn't released a game yet that didn't get panned as being horribly incomplete or full of bugs. They either have a non-existant Q&A dept, or they're rushing every product out the door.

The games all have big promise and ideas, but typically fail to do the little, ordinary things right.

NWN2: This game may be worth playing in about a year’s time when Obsidian has finished patching this clunky monstrosity, but right now, it’s a strictly average affair.

KOTOR2: A really good RPG, but only if you’re part of the lucky minority that can run the game with none of the huge technical problems everyone else is suffering from.

I had high hopes for the studio when it was founded, but they haven't impressed me with anything yet.
While I agree with your assessment, I also feel as though they're rushing things out because they're working by contract under someone else's IP... I know I would if I had such deadlines and not hold a game back forever (as Blizzard does all the time, cause they can).

Frankly the amount of content cut out of KoTOR2 (that still kicks about in the game files) really bothers me, but I found NWN2 to be amazing. Buggy, yes, but after the first few patches in the week following release I got on fine.

What I'm most concerned about, and why I'm happy about the handover for this project, is Obsidian's writing team. Fallout 3 was good, yeah, technically speaking. The world was well made, the design was for the most part spot on, but the writing was horrid. It went on like a high school kid's D&D campaign... cept worse. Obsidian has yet to fail on the writing and have consistently delivered in that department (though it must be said not as solidly as Troika did, it's a shame Bloodlines tanked, the writing was solid, and I went back to play Arcanum recently. With the real-time turned off that game is also friggin fantastic). And I mean, that was the best thing about the originals that still makes me go back and play them every so often... the storytelling was just brilliant. Fallout 3 was simply a travesty.

You could've machine gunned the ending to that game and not had much of an effect, it was so full of holes. And what happened to the hundreds of permutational endings they kept mentioning in every interview? There were eight. I could've gotten more possibilities out of a choose your own adventure novel, and they would've been better written.

Don't get me wrong, Fallout 3 creates a wonderful sandbox world... I'll occasionally go back and kick around in it for a bit with my trusty hunting rifle, but RPGs must have a good story to make them good RPGs. Fallout 3 did not. Emil should stick to writing Fantasy... at least he's decent doing that.

And VAMPIRES!? Honestly!? Who thought that was a good idea?





As far as New Reno being fluffed out and given 3D graphics, I'll reserve judgement on that till I see it. But really, all I want is a decent tale set in the Fallout Universe to experience. If they can give me that, then I'll be happy.
 

warhog

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

I hope you're right. I mean, I liked Black Isle as much as Blizzard. But they've just pissed me off with KOTOR2 and NWN2. I loved the games, but the bugs were just so frustrating.
 

Redcloak

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

Yeah, I hope I'm right as well... or else I will be quite disappointed for... well, the rest of my life.
 

warhog

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

The story of FO3 wasn`t that bad imo. It was pretty decent, nothing crazy but still pretty decent. I enjoyed some moments like the vault 112 virtual reality thing, that was cool. My only complaint was the endings, but in any case no one care about those if you play the expansions.
 

_X_

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

Broken Steel is changing the ending. And raising the level cap to 30.

The Anchorage was a bit of a letdown, but the unclear morality in The Pitt was immensely satisfying. I've got high hopes for Broken Steel, which will hopefully pave the way for a nice sequel.
 

Mike

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

I would give my right hand for a new RPG as good as KOTOR2 Never experienced any bugs or technical issues.

By the way, I wasn't too thrilled about Fallout 3 either - just didn't seem to get the vibe and stopped playing after a few hours, not accidently after I encountered the vampires. What a joke
 

Sfinx

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

Did you play the game to the end? You could tell they had planned an absolutely epic finish, and it was butchered into what they had. That was as disappointing as the bugs.
 

Redcloak

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

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Originally Posted by Mike
Broken Steel is changing the ending. And raising the level cap to 30.
A full release really shouldn't need to be fixed by DLCs. But I do hope they do something good with the ending... I think Broken Steel is just changing the ending so that you don't die and can continue on.

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Originally Posted by Redcloak
Did you play the game to the end? You could tell they had planned an absolutely epic finish, and it was butchered into what they had. That was as disappointing as the bugs.
Word. There's a mod team somewhere out there trying to recover all the data left out from the game but that was disappointing, and like I said above.... it really shouldn't be necessary to have to fix a game after the fact. That said I still enjoyed the game quite a bit... I really liked the level of interaction you got from your NPCs, how you could sway them towards the light or to the dark and turn them into Jedi... that was cool.
 

warhog

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

I was following that mod, and I'd stopped after they made no new updates for over a year.

Funny enough, just this month they put up a new trailer with a new beta release. I had given up hope, wishing they'd just release the content they had, but maybe there's hope after all.

Or it could be another 2 years. I guess the real race is between them and The Old Republoc MMO.
 

Redcloak

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

Yeah the trailer seems to claim that it's pretty much done. I'll check back in a few months... It would involve reinstalling KoTOR 2 and such and I can't be bloody bothered to.
 

warhog

Bethesda hands over production of Fallout back to Urquhart Avellone Obsidian

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Originally Posted by Sfinx
I would give my right hand for a new RPG as good as KOTOR2 Never experienced any bugs or technical issues.

By the way, I wasn't too thrilled about Fallout 3 either - just didn't seem to get the vibe and stopped playing after a few hours, not accidently after I encountered the vampires. What a joke
Fallout takes a while to get into and usually you have to restart once after you've fucked up your build a ton and realize build is important but it's worth picking up again.

If they can keep aliens out of new reno I'll be happy
 

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