Question Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution ( PCMech Forums Case Modding and Cooling )
Updated: 2009-06-04 05:20:05 (10) |
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
So Artic Silver has two solutions, one is silver and the other is ceramique something like that. Both of them are labeled as Permanent.
First and foremost, is that true?? Like once I bind some sinks on my 8800gt's rams, then they'll stay there for eternity??
If yes, then anyone has a more non-permanent solution for this?? (reasonable price too if possible)
The previous pre-applied adhesive that came w/ the sinks had to be removed for the rma, so obviously I should clean them and reapply when I have to reinstall the heatsink. this mean I need to reapply w/ something, Right??
Thanks
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
I don't expect any paste to be permanent, but then, I have not gone beyond 5 years without replacing my computer. I read several articles that were very positive on Shin-Etsu and purchased some on eBay for less than $5 for my next build.
cmichael258
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
depends what you are doing....
For CPU heatsinks I either use Zalman's thermal grease or OCZ freeze...the OCZ stuff is very nice... I prefer them better than AS5 and others...
they all are very good and to get good temps depends on how good your application is....
for bonding ram sinks to chips I'll mix the 2 part epoxy with 1 part equal to the 2 mixed and use that...it keeps it semi-pliable and removable...
MaxRat
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
I have a free tube of AS 5 and MX-2, no other brand. I'll probably use the MX-2 as reapply for the VGA.
So it depends on the ratio of the mixture?? for the AS adhesive.
Also, what's the difference between Silver over Ceramique??
SidewinderPC has some Shin-Etsu pads for the amd cpu. I didnt see any adhesive of that brand though. Doesnt matter since Im not going to buy from them anyway, they charge 5 bucks S&H for an (ONE) adhesive thermal sheet (80x80mm) that priced for 4 dollars via USPS... What the hell...!!
Ahura
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
My recollection is that you can remove the arctic silver compound after removing the heatsink by carefully rubbing the surface with a cotton ball dipped in 90%+ Isopropyl Alcohol.
In terms of the difference between the ceramique and the AS compound, the net result is that AS tends to conduct heat slightly better. The difference is almost negligible - it's in the order of 2oC or so. In terms of the use of ceramique, it takes longer for it to "dry out", or form an almost crust-like texture unlike the liquid compound you squeeze out of the tube. While this shouldn't be much of a concern since the crust-like surface will still conduct heat perfectly well, you'll notice the compound a bit when you're attempting to wiggle the heat sink contraption off of the chip. It's more of a minor nuisance, and probably shouldn't factor into how you chose your compound. Again, AS5 tends to be more popular because it does have a minor performance edge, and it's usually cheaper as well.
kram
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
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Originally Posted by kram 2.0
My recollection is that you can remove the arctic silver compound after removing the heatsink by carefully rubbing the surface with a cotton ball dipped in 90%+ Isopropyl Alcohol.
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I use a cloth then q-tip, but the effect is the same (I'll have to try the cotton ball thing). Isopropyl Alcohol will clean both AS and Ceramique. It is not "permanent" if you take a few moments to clean it.
I've head ceramique produced better results than AS3. Haven't heard how it compared to AS5. I stopped using AS a while back since it's essentially electrially conductive while ceramique is not (meaning, ceramique is safer to use if you have an accident with it on your hardware) as well as being slightly less messy.
Force Flow
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
It is not permanent. It can be removed with alchohol or other cleaners made for that purpose.
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
Arctic Silver is non-electrically conductive. Even though the compound is composed of 99.9% silver, I assume the inclusion of a small amount of aluminum oxide keeps it from being electrically conductive even if the other two mixtures are conductors and semi-conductors.
Be careful though, when applying it to a small die like a GPU chip. Though most integrated circuits can't be shorted easily with AS, if the arctic silver comes in contact with two bridging wires, it will act as a very minor capacitor, which may or may not have an affect on the card. It's a rather unlikely event, but it's worth noting in case you are unfamiliar with how much to apply.
kram
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Originally Posted by kram 2.0
Be careful though, when applying it to a small die like a GPU chip. Though most integrated circuits can't be shorted easily with AS, if the arctic silver comes in contact with two bridging wires, it will act as a very minor capacitor, which may or may not have an affect on the card.
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Wouldn't that be considered Conductive?
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
Tomayto Tomahto. It lets electricity go from one point to another. Bottom line is that it's bad for hardware and shouldn't be spread around like peanut butter on exposed contacts.
Force Flow
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Need thermal adhesive NON Permanent solution
There are 2 different things,artic silver paste used as a heatsink filler and artic silver epoxy,the thing you;re referring to is permanent and can't be removed without damaging the component.
You can do one of two things with the heatsinks you want to use,either use heat conductive tape,cut to fit or if you decide to use the Artic silver epoxy mix it as directed and mix in 1 part regular artic silver,this will make it semi permanent.
Alfie
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