Question The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant ( PCMech Forums Processors, RAM, Motherboards, and Overclocking )
Updated: 2009-06-04 05:20:14 (21) |
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Hi all,
Sorry this is kind of long, I figured it was best to include my troubleshooting steps thus far.
I recently installed a new video card (nvidia GTX260), and have been having problems with random crashes in Fallout3, culminating in an NV4.dll BSOD. Upon rebooting, my bios gave an "Overclocking failed, reset defaults?" screen. My system is overclocked.
Prior to this BSOD, I also ran a Prime95 torture test, which went fine on the "small ffts" (entirely in cpu cache), but crashed rapidly on "large ffts" (which involves ram).
I decided the logical thing to do was to disable the overclock, so reset the BIOS to defaults. (I realize the recent hardware change is also a likely culprit, but since it allowed me to crank up settings, I figure my ram is now being taxed more as well. Also, the BIOS error mentioned overclocking).
Upon rebooting I got another BSOD: "The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant." I tried restoring the ram voltage to the value it had when overclocked (I know some ram is picky about its voltage), but I still get the same BSOD.
I'm currently running memtest...40% through 1 test and no errors so far.
I'd appreciate any and all suggestions! I'm interested in solving both issues, obviously the more pressing is the ACPI error, since I can't do anything 'till I get past it.
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Have you tried pulling the motherboard battery?
shadowpr
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Well, that kind of worked. I restored it to defaults (apparently doing that manually from the BIOS without first removing the battery isn't the same thing...). Booted into windows, tried the prime95 torture test, which failed almost instantly. I opened up the task manager and core-temp to check cpu temperature (30 degrees C), and then the computer locked up. Rebooted, and now get the ACPI error again.
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Reset the cmos with the jumper, then reflash the bios.
glc
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
I did the jumper reset, rebooted, load defaults, and right after getting to the windows desktop I got a new blue screen. "PFN LIST CORUPT" 0x0000004E
EDIT: Didn't get a chance to reflash the CMOS before that happened.
EDIT2: Cleared CMOS again, and this time left all defaults except for the ram voltage: I bumped it up to where it was stable before all this started. So far, so good. Downloading BIOS to reflash.
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Your memory management file number (PFN) list is corrupted or appears to be. I would suggest you either remove the 260 or try updating the drivers.
usnavyretired
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
And we are talking about the system in your sig?
chuck4456
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Ok, successfully flashed the BIOS (it's the same version I had before, but I downloaded the file fresh from ASUS), and also reinstalled the nvidia drivers.
This is the system in my sig, with a new graphics card (gtx 260) instead of the GeForce 7800, and I've turned off the overclock. Seems I do have to manually set the ram voltage to 2.8v in order to get windows to start at all.
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
I've re-installed the graphics drivers, still running no overclock. Fallout 3 still crashes randomly, but that may just be its own bugs (there are apparently quite a few). Other games run fine. Also, torture testing seems to be running fine.
Does it make sense that the stability of my overclock degraded over time? Or did the additional power draw of the new card make the powersupply unstable?
I'm not noticing a performance difference in fallout, despite removing an almost 50% cpu overclock, so I may just leave it alone at stock settings.
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
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Originally Posted by LeftyAce
I've re-installed the graphics drivers, still running no overclock. Fallout 3 still crashes randomly, but that may just be its own bugs (there are apparently quite a few). Other games run fine. Also, torture testing seems to be running fine.
Does it make sense that the stability of my overclock degraded over time? Or did the additional power draw of the new card make the powersupply unstable?
I'm not noticing a performance difference in fallout, despite removing an almost 50% cpu overclock, so I may just leave it alone at stock settings.
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I think that the power supply probably took a hit.
chuck4456
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Check the motherboard carefully for bulging or leaking capacitors.
glc
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Motherboard capacitors look fine (a little dust on the tops of some, but nothing major). I'm thinking the next step is to put the old video card back in and see what happens? (I don't think I have access to another powersupply to test, although I could check around my dorm to see if anyone's got one).
Oh, another bit of information: a couple times (not the most recent boot) the machine has simply powered off upon reaching the windows desktop. The numlock light stays on, but the machine just clicks off. I thought it might be related to starting the evga Precision tool (their overclocking tool...I'm just using it to monitor gpu temp and set the fan speed up from 40% to 100%). But starting it after the computer's been on for a little bit seems ok.
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
I continued to experience the computer randomly shutting off immediately after reaching the windows desktop, and have swapped out video card, so the system is now exactly what's in my sig (with no overclock). It appears to be running fine, no random shutdowns, etc.
Is there any way to figure out whether it was something wrong with the card or the PSU?
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
In my experience with shutdowns of that type, there's usually an overheating problem. Any way to check your temps?
Spools
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
I don't think it's temperature related (unless it's a temperature I'm not monitoring...) CoreTemp shows CPU temperatures in the high 30s-low 40s, GPU temperature was consistently 40-ish. This hard shutdown sometimes occurred right after booting up the computer after having it off all night.
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
I think you are a little light in the PSU....
Nvidia recommends 500watts for the sytem but that doesnt leave you any headroom....
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...tx_260_us.html
I ran the gts-250 on a Corsair 520watt and I felt it was taxing the PSU more than I liked...the exhaust was noticeably hotter than the 9600gt before it....
I changed to a Thermaltake Toughpower 750watt unit and it's been fine...
I am thinking your PSU cant handle that card under load and it's getting worse...
MaxRat
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
That all makes sense (I didn't think to feel the PSU exhaust with the bigger card). Now I need to decide whether to return the card, or invest in a new PSU.
If I'm going to get a new PSU, I want it to have enough juice to power a brand new build in a year or so...I would use this GTX260, and build an i7 system around it probably next summer. Is it realistic to think I can get a PSU now that is going to be able to cope with a new build in a year? What sort of wattage would I be looking at?
What if I want to give myself enough headroom to upgrade the video card in a couple years?
Finally, how long is a realistic lifetime for a PSU (am I going to have to replace a dying unit long before I do a second video card upgrade?)
Thank you all for the input, suggestions and analysis!
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
glc
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
I can vouch for the TX-850 as I just got one....very nice PSU
runs my 4850X2 no issue and soon to tri-fire....
MaxRat
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
glc, I take it from your succinct reply that either of those units will give me the overhead I'm looking for? (I'd go for the 850W if I do this at all).
MaxRat, that's good to hear. A friend of mine has the 650W version, and it seems like a solid component to me.
LeftyAce
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
In my opinion, you can't go wrong with any Corsair PSU.
glc
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The BIOS in this system is not ACPI compliant
Alright, well the machine's still doing it (randomly shutting off immediately after boot up), and with increasing frequency. This is with the old card back in there.
I'm thinking since I need to spring for a new powersupply, might as well see about swapping the GTX260 for a 275 or 280 while I'm at it.
Thanks again for all the help, and for the PSU recommendations. I'm really glad I followed the advice on here back when I was originally building; this PSU has "died" quite gracefully.
LeftyAce
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