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Question HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics ( [H]ard|Forum Small Form Factor Systems )
Updated: 2010-07-25 21:20:23 (55)
HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Hey everbody, I'm currently building a mini-itx system for my home theatre so I can play movies, games, etc. Here are the specs and some pics of where I'm at so far. I managed to get an AXP-140 cooler to fit while still able to use a graphics card. Theres like 1.5mm of clearance! There is about a 8mm overhang on the RAM side which isn't bad at all.

The 1156 backplate for the AXP-140 cooler cannot be used due to some components getting in the way of the mounting area at the back of the board. I just got some washers from my local hardware store and installed it without the backplate.

CASE: Silverstone SG05B
MB: Gigabyte H55N-USB3
CPU: Core i3 530
RAM: G.Skill DDR-1333 ECO 2x2GB 1.35V
HSF: Thermalright AXP-140 + Scyth Slip Stream 120x12mm 1200rpm
VC: EVGA 8800GT 512MB (recycled from my old system)
OS: Win7 64-bit
HDD: WD Scorpio Black 250GB
DVD: Liteon DS-8A4S 8X Slim SATA DVD























Answers: HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics ( [H]ard|Forum Small Form Factor Systems )
HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

I'm pretty sure you can mount it without the plate like I did with washers but I could be wrong. I don't have experience with the H50 or ECO.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

The H50 should work just fine, I had the same "issue" with 2 DFI boards (components too close to the backplate)

The H50 does even include the fabric washers you might need

Does anyone know if the AXP 140 available at amazon is 1156 compatible?

fr500

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Since you have the board, I was wondering if you could give me some input on this. I am thinking about getting this board for a build in the future, and I wanted a water cooling unit. Since it seems the H50 won't work (I read it a couple places), do you think the Cool-It ECO ALC would work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835227006

The backplate seems to be fairly minimal. Or could the H50 (or Cool-It) be rigged to just use bolts and no backplate like you did for the AXP-140?

mrmylanman

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

I've never really liked Gigabyte color combo but it does look good with those RAM sticks and the AXP 140

fr500

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

A few pics of it installed inside the SG05. No cabling done yet....






Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Is that scythe processor fan blowing into the psu or into the axp140 ?

The psu fan and processor should help each other.

Henk

HenkNL

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Henk, The PSU fan is not facing the CPU heatsink in SG05 (not sure if it can be flipped upside down).

cyberkost

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

The SG05 comes with a psu with the fan facing the CPU but I flipped it around so that the psu fan sucks in cool air from the top vent of the case.

I installed the CPU fan so that it blows down through the heatsink onto the board. If I mount the scythe fan so that it blows air up towards the psu, I noticed it does not have enough static pressure to pull air through the fins. Also, the psu fan is very weak. It won't be much help anyway.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Looks awsome, I love gigabyte's color scheme.

99vw

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by 99vw
Looks awsome, I love gigabyte's color scheme.
I love the blue/sky blue theme. Imagine that board with some nice white tubing. Yummy.

U238Shell

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Thanks.

I thought about that but there really isn't a point to using backplate. The board isn't warped since the stock intel backplate is keeping this pretty rigid. Unless there are 12mm thick 140mm fans, it won't fit in the SG05 because there's not enough clearance.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Very nice build!

emax

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

That is a thing of beauty.

Have you tried mounting the backplate on top of the washers? They might keep the backplate elevated off of the components and you wouldn't have to worry about the heatsink warping the board.

It sounds like you don't have room to fit a 140MM fan on there, huh?

Mr. Perfect

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by U238Shell
Very nice! Is that fan included with the AXP140? It looks like a Scythe Slipstream.

Do you reckon a U12P or U9B cooler would fit?
Yes it's a slip stream. I bought it separately as the AXP didn't come with any fans.

It doesn't look like those will fit. No matter which way it's mounted, it seems to either block the ram or pcie slot.


Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberkost
Thanks for the pics! So .. you're not using 1156 bolt-through kit b/c one does not come with AXP-140 or b/c it would not fit with whatever that component is on the back of the mobo near the top-right hole one?
The AXP that I got came with an LG775 bolt thru so I had to buy a 1156 one because I needed the hold down bracket. If you look at the pics of the back of the board, there are tiny capacitors and an IC chip around one of the holes that gets in the way of the backplate. fb59 The 1156 comes with it's own backplate but because of those little components, I couldn't use it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallis
Nice little build there. Can't wait to see it all put together in a case. And I applaud your fan-wire routing I use the "wrap it around the fan housing" trick myself.

Shane
Hehe, thanks. I hate messy wiring so I try to hide my cables as much as possible.


Quote:
Originally Posted by napsteir
Really nice build! I'm very interested in it. I just wanted to know two things. First of all, what type of washers did you use instead of the backplate? (I mean material).
How did you secure the fan on top of the heatsink? Did you use flanges or what?
At the hardware store they're labeled as "Fibre Washers". They feel like cardboard. I used two per hole.

I used zip ties to secure the fan (2 per hole). I took one of them and pushed it into the hole from the top through the fins. Then I used the "locking" part of another zip tie and capped the bottom off. For one of the holes I had to put the locking part in the middle of the fan so it doesn't stick out at the top. Because that area of the fan sits right under the PSU of the SG05, I need as much room as possible.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Really nice build! I'm very interested in it. I just wanted to know two things. First of all, what type of washers did you use instead of the backplate? (I mean material).
How did you secure the fan on top of the heatsink? Did you use flanges or what?

napsteir

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Nice little build there. Can't wait to see it all put together in a case. And I applaud your fan-wire routing I use the "wrap it around the fan housing" trick myself.

Shane

Hallis

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Very nice! Is that fan included with the AXP140? It looks like a Scythe Slipstream.

Do you reckon a U12P or U9B cooler would fit?

U238Shell

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Thanks for the pics! So .. you're not using 1156 bolt-through kit b/c one does not come with AXP-140 or b/c it would not fit with whatever that component is on the back of the mobo near the top-right hole one?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazei

cyberkost

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by HenkNL
Received a reply. It fits ! See below.
That is excellent news , thanks HenkNL!

Xfinity

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Received a reply. It fits ! See below.

Henk
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Hallo,

Ther is no problem. I used a 5770. You just have to place the heatpipes near the vga card. You can cover the RAM or the chipset with the fan.

Feel free to ask if you have more questions.

Le+1 juil. 2010 14:02, <xxxxxxxxxxxxx>+a ?crit+:

Dans votre test de Prolimatech Samuel 17 sur une m-itx Gigabyte H55N-USB3 est le PCI-E 16x disponible pour une carte graphique ? Beaucoup de radiateur sont trop grand et couvrit le PCI-E slot.

Is the pci-e slot still available when the Prolimatech Samuel 17 is mounted on the h55n-usb3 ? Most coolers like the Big Shuriken are so big they cover the pci-e slot.

See discussion : http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=...8&postcount=36

Au revoir,

Henk Linde
(Mon fran?ais est terrible, je pr?f?r?e anglais ou allemand)

HenkNL

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

I have written to the french reviewer that used the h55n-usb3 if the graphic card slot is still available.

HenkNL

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by HenkNL
I have written to the french reviewer that used the h55n-usb3 if the graphic card slot is still available.
Cool, lets hope for the best then ...

BTW Kazei, are planning in using the PSU that came with the case?

Xfinity

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Huh, I just noticed Chrome recognizes it's in German and offered to translate it. Cool. I like the look of that cooler.

mrmylanman

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by HenkNL
I found 5 reviews on the Samuel 17. It seems it performs somewhere between Big Shuriken (very close) and the AXP140.

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...er::14606.html

They're not in English but you can use a translator(Babelfish,Google).

Henk
Does it fit the H55N-USB3?

On topic: Nice build Kazei, I am setting up a similiar build atm. I am unfortunantly stuck on the cpu cooler .

Xfinity

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

I suggest the 1600rpm or even the 2000rpm Scythe slim fan if you're using a rheostat. The 1200 model is very weak but quiet though.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

I found 5 reviews on the Samuel 17. It seems it performs somewhere between Big Shuriken (very close) and the AXP140.

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...er::14606.html

They're not in English but you can use a translator(Babelfish,Google).

Henk

HenkNL

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberkost
Yeah, i've got a bit of an issue with the tweaktown review. I don't really trust the results as being accurate or repeatable. Take a look at the sound level of the intel stock fan in a idle vs. loaded setup... -13 delta db? wtf? Makes me think their testing methods are questionable or there is a LOT of induced error.

At any rate, I'll probably pick up a the 17, a fast/thin scythe fan, put it on a rheostat and see where the performance/noise optimal point is for me

Machupo

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Well, yeah, the noise a function of the fan used ... so, one is free to use a different fan.

cyberkost

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

In addition, Nexus Low 7000 is NOT very favorably reviewed @ Newegg.com, while Samuel 17 is performing at the same level as the stock Intel cooler

cyberkost

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberkost
Seems the reviews for the low 7000 R2 either has a high pitched sound or the mounting is a PITA. If you get the first Nexus Low 7000, it uses a backplate for mounting. Problem is it does not come with a 1156 bracket for mounting it. I had the original low 7000 and I didn't have any high pitched noise.


Nexus gave me this link for a bracket for 1156. http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/...6_bracket.html

kjeldoran

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by fr500
Scythe Shuriken? the Big shuriken won't fit with a GPU installer
Yup, I saw the photos of the big shuriken on the intel board in the HSF clearance thread... that's a definite no-go, but the regular shuriken looks a bit smaller, if you could get 1156 mounting brackets on it

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I redid the measurements on the H55itx-a-e and got:
  • 15.8mm from center of nearest 1156 mounting hole to edge of PCIe slot
  • 19.4mm from center of nearest 1156 mounting hole to center of PCIe slot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HenkNL
Looking around what could be good alternatives ? The Big Shuriken is perfect but blocks the pci-e slot. It's shape is too symmetrical to the socket.
1. Nexus Low-7000 . Anyone tried this one ? Only 70mm tall with stock fan. Secure mounting.
2. Prolimatech Samuel 17. Only 45mm high.
Using the engineering diagrams on the Nexus homepage for the LOW-7000 (version 2), I got 19.00mm with a ? of 0.24mm, so it would be VERY close.

Based upon the Samuel 17's diagrams (assuming, though, that the cpu plate is centered on the mounting bracket), it seems as if it has quite a bit more room. (~4mm to edge of PCIe slot). Now, if I can ever find a place that has this cooler so i can purchase it, i'll give it a shot with a 120x12 scythe.
Edit: FrozenCPU doesn't have an ETA for them yet, but are hoping to have them at some point in July.

Machupo

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by Machupo
You wouldn't happen to have the measurement (in mm) from the center of the retention holes to the edge of the heatpipe (lateral distance, not straightline) would you? I would like to see if this would fit on my Zotac H55ITX-a-e and figure that the mounting holes are a pretty good reference point.

It's either this, the scythe or a H50, 'cause the stock intel fan noise is driving me up the wall!

Thanks!
Scythe Shuriken? the Big shuriken won't fit with a GPU installer

fr500

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

I am a bit concerned about the clearance between axp140+fan and psu. Shouldn't there a bit more room above the cpu fan to freely take air in ? axp140+slim fan is about 8.2 cm and the psu is at about 8.5cm above socket (?), so there's only a few mm's. So the cooler should be a bit lower.

Looking around what could be good alternatives ? The Big Shuriken is perfect but blocks the pci-e slot. It's shape is too symmetrical to the socket.
1. Nexus Low-7000 . Anyone tried this one ? Only 70mm tall with stock fan. Secure mounting.
2. Prolimatech Samuel 17. Only 45mm high.
3. Some of the top down 92mm fan coolers like the Xigmatek Durin.

Do these fit ? Or others ?
The AXP140 is expensive and good but there should be others.

Henk

HenkNL

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazei
I'm pretty sure you can mount it without the plate like I did with washers but I could be wrong. I don't have experience with the H50 or ECO.
But you still need the 1156 retention bracket I guess, don;t really care for the backplate as I like your solution

fr500

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

You wouldn't happen to have the measurement (in mm) from the center of the retention holes to the edge of the heatpipe (lateral distance, not straightline) would you? I would like to see if this would fit on my Zotac H55ITX-a-e and figure that the mounting holes are a pretty good reference point.

It's either this, the scythe or a H50, 'cause the stock intel fan noise is driving me up the wall!

Thanks!

Machupo

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by Machupo
You wouldn't happen to have the measurement (in mm) from the center of the retention holes to the edge of the heatpipe (lateral distance, not straightline) would you?
Thanks!
I can't really get an accurate measurement now that it's already installed inside the case. I can only estimate the distance, center of hole to heatpipe is probably 13-14mm. Hope that helps.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Did you get an opportunity to listen to the stock 120mm front fan before replacing it? I'll be ordering the rest of the parts on Tuesday and throwing in another fan is fine.

Do you have the 1200rpm Scythe Slim running at that speed at all times?

Skrying

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

To give you an idea of the noise, the 1200rpm Scythe Slim is virtually silent. The 80mm fan inside the PSU is louder but can't be heard a few feet away. The 120mm front intake fan I replaced with a Coolermaster LED one becuase I wanted the blue lighting is by far the loudest thing in the case. It is NOT 19db as advertised. I had to connect it to a fan controller to make it bearable.

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=42...e=COOLERMASTER

Kazei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by joelC
Using the supplied dvd cover that came with the case,two springs and a screw.
http://img713.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=p1020890.jpg
Brilliant work!

I've just ordered the SG05. I'm also going to be picking up a H55N-USB3. I'm still trying to decide what heatsink I want to pair with it, the main goal is silence as I will not be overclocking the CPU.

Skrying

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Thanks. I'm almost done. I ordered a sleeving kit for my PSU which haven't arrived yet. I'm planning to do a white/light blue color scheme to match the colors of the board. I just noticed that the stock EVGA 8800GT cooler has the same colors lol.

I've also cut off some connectors from the PSU (4pin molex and the SATA power) so that there is only enough to power the HD and optical drive. This makes the case less crowded and easier to route the cables.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Nice setup there man

dinos22

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by joelC
Using the supplied dvd cover that came with the case,two springs and a screw.
http://img713.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=p1020890.jpg
Nice job with that. Looks good.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Machupo
Kazei -- don't know if you've thought about wire management yet, but the spaces on either side of the slim drive are great to house extra wires/length -- keeps the area between the front 120mm fan and the motherboard relatively clean. In my -06, all the cables that connect to the mobo go straight up into the "roof area". I also called the space between the slim drive tray and the psu the "conduit" as that's where I routed/tied most of the wires that needed to travel laterally (e.g. main mobo power to get to the plug on the h55itx-a-e). Oh, and there is enough space above the psu inside the cross-bar piece of metal to route one set of power wires (pcie or the 4-pin extra mobo power) if you want to keep more space available in the conduit. I have my 3.5" hard drives mounted vertically along the left side of the case (where the overhand from a double width vid card would go), so I routed the SATA cables with double-sided tape in that cross-bar).
Yup, I've pretty much planned out where all my cables are gonna go. I cut off one of the molex plugs as well as the floppy connector because I won't ever use these. It also makes things much cleaner inside.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

DVD, HD, and front panel installed. 2 more things to go: PSU and SATA cables.

The optical drive I bought is a Lite-On and there's a tiny gap all around the front bezel. Oh well, guess they're all like that.




Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Using the supplied dvd cover that came with the case,two springs and a screw.
http://img713.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=p1020890.jpg

joelC

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Kazei -- don't know if you've thought about wire management yet, but the spaces on either side of the slim drive are great to house extra wires/length -- keeps the area between the front 120mm fan and the motherboard relatively clean. In my -06, all the cables that connect to the mobo go straight up into the "roof area". I also called the space between the slim drive tray and the psu the "conduit" as that's where I routed/tied most of the wires that needed to travel laterally (e.g. main mobo power to get to the plug on the h55itx-a-e). Oh, and there is enough space above the psu inside the cross-bar piece of metal to route one set of power wires (pcie or the 4-pin extra mobo power) if you want to keep more space available in the conduit. I have my 3.5" hard drives mounted vertically along the left side of the case (where the overhand from a double width vid card would go), so I routed the SATA cables with double-sided tape in that cross-bar).

Machupo

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

@Kazei

do you think a normal 120mm fan will fit? the slipstream is great and evenrtyhing but it's pretty expensive (I sell PCs and for $12 I could get 4 cooler master 120mm fans)

fr500

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

120x25mm fan with an AXP-140 inside a SG05 will not fit.
120x20mm will fit but it will be pressing up against the power supply.

Here's a pic I found with a 20mm thick fan.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Oh well .. it could be Linux. I just tried it with my DFI P45 based setup, and it does all the right things like spinning HDDs down and turning the video off, but then wakes up RIGHT AWAY (w/o me moving mouse or touching the keyboard) ... perhaps I have wake-on-LAN or smth ..

Edit: I had a mysterious "wake on PCI card" in the BIOS (and not explicit "wake on LAN" setting) ... I disabled "wake on PCI card", but observe same behavior. Will be able to test w/ ZOTAC H55 board (and Ubuntu 10.04) as well as DFI P45 and Win Vista in a few days.

cyberkost

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Why 9.10, why not 10.04? Not that 10.04 solves all the issues, but I'd think that this would be the version folks would be putting on if they do a fresh install. Most (again, this is just my guess) have upgraded from 9.10 ... and perhaps had to do a fresh install to take advantage of ext4 (default fs in 10.04).

cyberkost

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Oops, sorry I meant 10.04. Suspend doesn't work in the latest version.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xfinity
BTW Kazei, are planning in using the PSU that came with the case?
Yup, 300W is good enough for now. The 8800GT doesn't need that much power anyways.


Quote:
Originally Posted by HenkNL
Received a reply. It fits ! See below.
Nice! Good to see other coolers fit too.


On another note, has anybody tried running Ubuntu 9.10 on this board? I can't seem to get Suspend working on it. They system doesn't go to sleep. The screen just blanks out and everything is still powered. If I move the mouse or press a key the login box pops up.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

I was gonna put some insulation in between there but once I screwed down the video card, it doesn't move at all, no matter how much I wiggle the cable.

Kazei

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Very Very Thanks x this great solution!!!

emax

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Nice colors on that thing, oddly enough pretty flashy/easy to work on. I fear for when you wiggle your DVI cable on your video card well its running... looks like it'll flex and hit the Heat pipes... might be worth it to put some purdy strips of electrical tape along the back of those pipes : (

KaizerDan

HTPC Gaming Build H55N USB3 w AXP 140 Cooler pics

Sorry, no I replaced the Silverstone fan before I installed the mobo. However, I plugged it in outside of the case and it seems pretty quiet. It may be louder when installed behind a grill though.

Yes, I have the Slim running at max speed all the time. I turned off Smart Fan in the BIOS. I'm actually going to replace it with a 1600rpm slim because it has more airflow.

Kazei

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