Last week I started working out again, this time following gordyRs sticky. In his sticky he has it set though that you do the bulking first, then worry about cutting fat afterwards. At the minute I do the weight training on monday/wednesday/friday and go running on the tuesday and thursday for cardio. Will I still see good results doing it this way?

what results are you expecting?

Depends how long it's been since you did regular exercise. Don't do too much too soon or you could pick up an injury.

Bulking and cutting is a tried and tested way to do things, even though others on here will say you can do both at once and then change their minds the next day...

Less cardio required for if you're doing a bulking phase, just once a week at most and keep it short but intense. Long steady paced cardio burns muscle as well as fat and uses up your excess calories that you're eating in order to bulk up, which you want directed towards building muscle.

They always say that you can't lose fat and build muscle at the same time but I must be nature's freak. I've done a similar regime to the OP (although cardio is usually HIIT) and I have definitely gained muscle and lost quite a bit of weight.

I think if you genuinely want to bulk up then you have to take in a hell of a lot of calories and thus fat gain is inevitable, but from my experience keeping calories between 2,500 to 3,000 a day coupled with a similar regime to the one you've mentioned certainly enables weight loss and muscle gain, albeit the muscle gains are significantly slower than they would be compared to a dedicated bulking objective.

If you don't like my posts feel free to put me on ignore. Rather than keep rolling my eyes at you I'll do the same for you.

Surprisingly enough, the world doesn't revolve around you. I don't believe I mentioned anyone's name in my post so why do you assume I was talking about anyone in particular?

Guys we're going off topic here. Let's keep the fisticuffs to the Gym Rats thread

OP - as Morba said - what exactly are you expecting? You will put on muscle and minimise fat intake if you stick to about 3000 calories, but it will be slow. What are your goals? What sport are you training for or is it for the sake of fitness?

If the cardio you are doing is moderate then you should see result. I do four days bulking and one day cardio and see results quite quickly.

Absolutely nothing wrong with employing a split and augmenting it with cardio as long as it's not for very prolonged periods.

You'll see good results

Ant

@ Wanton, I've been doing HITT on my cross trainer for the last 6 weeks but It's to dam hot inside to do It, would a short 3 mile intensive run outside in under 25 minutes be ok as a substitute?

You do put on fat along with the muscle, but if your diet is spot on you'll put on less, albeit maybe at a slightly slowly progress rate.

keep the diet as clean as poss, my opp is if you eat crap you will put on crap. Atm im eating about 4,500/5,000 calories per day. I still have visible abs and im doing zero cardio... My diet isn't 100% to the tee in terms of calories and macros but everything is clean, no rubbish. 90% of the time people get fat off a bulk because they eat rubbish here and there and think its ok because they are bulking.

How big are you and how much are working out to be bulking lean on 5000kcal a day?

4500-5000 good clean calories low carbs, good fats, high protien must cost a fortune.

Hi bud,
How about taking your HIIT outside? Either stick to fartlek (sprint intervals as and when you feel ready) or true HIIT. Try 20 seconds full sprint, 1:40 light jog.

Ant

hi mate i posted in the other thread, im 16 st. I work out on 2 days on 1 off usually and my workouts are HARD and intense, not in gym all day keep workouts to about 1 hour/1 hour 15 max. But every set counts...

It doesn't cost a huge fortune if your wise with what you get, brown pasta is my main source of carb as oats bloat me, not really a fan of brown rice. I eat variations of fruit just added into some meals such as melon/blackberrys/bananas. I eat steak every day for 1 meal but good lean cuts such as sirloine, and about 3/4 chic breasts per day. For fats I try keep them fairly high but of good sources such as evoo...I eat fish mainly mackeral or salmon every so often as I just changed my diet as it was mainly fish orientated I like a bit of variety .

Carbs not that low, roughly 380/400g per day.